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    28 year old pro basketball player dead from a heart attack

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    DeezyAZ81
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 1:43 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81    Damar Hamlin (NFL) would have died if not for emergency equipment on site   Now whether the vaccine had anything to do with his heart issues is another topic....

     

    So Hamlin is not dead correct?? Pretty sure I saw him on the field at training camp last week. an_light

    Secondly, as you pointed out, absolutely zero evidence or proof that this was vaccine related. 

    So my question stands, what American professional player or division 1 athlete in any women's or men's sport has died from a heart related issue with proof it was vaccine related?

    I am still waiting for an answer??? I mean it happens so frequently and daily in other countries right?? an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81    Damar Hamlin (NFL) would have died if not for emergency equipment on site   Now whether the vaccine had anything to do with his heart issues is another topic....

     

    So Hamlin is not dead correct?? Pretty sure I saw him on the field at training camp last week. an_light

    Secondly, as you pointed out, absolutely zero evidence or proof that this was vaccine related. 

    So my question stands, what American professional player or division 1 athlete in any women's or men's sport has died from a heart related issue with proof it was vaccine related?

    I am still waiting for an answer??? I mean it happens so frequently and daily in other countries right?? an_light

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 3:08 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    One thing I find interesting is that none of these professional or high level athletes that immediately die from the vax are ever or American or on American soil. It seems to always occur in some developing, foreign country. Why is that?  Not a single NBA, MLB, NFL, NCAAB, NCAAF, college basketball, women's volleyball, player etc. has ever dropped dead immediately from the VAX. I mean the U.S. was the worst government in the world in terms of pushing this vax right? Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? The U.S. has a high vaccine right too, especially at the pro level. Makes you wonder doesn't it?? Hmmmm.

    Because foreign athletes got the Moderna shot which is an entirely different experiment than Pfizer's American one.

    And we forget that Hamlin died on a global stage during MNF.

    Yes, he died that night.

    No, I don't wear a tin foil wearing hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    One thing I find interesting is that none of these professional or high level athletes that immediately die from the vax are ever or American or on American soil. It seems to always occur in some developing, foreign country. Why is that?  Not a single NBA, MLB, NFL, NCAAB, NCAAF, college basketball, women's volleyball, player etc. has ever dropped dead immediately from the VAX. I mean the U.S. was the worst government in the world in terms of pushing this vax right? Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? The U.S. has a high vaccine right too, especially at the pro level. Makes you wonder doesn't it?? Hmmmm.

    Because foreign athletes got the Moderna shot which is an entirely different experiment than Pfizer's American one.

    And we forget that Hamlin died on a global stage during MNF.

    Yes, he died that night.

    No, I don't wear a tin foil wearing hat.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 3:17 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: One thing I find interesting is that none of these professional or high level athletes that immediately die from the vax are ever or American or on American soil. It seems to always occur in some developing, foreign country. Why is that?  Not a single NBA, MLB, NFL, NCAAB, NCAAF, college basketball, women's volleyball, player etc. has ever dropped dead immediately from the VAX. I mean the U.S. was the worst government in the world in terms of pushing this vax right? Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? The U.S. has a high vaccine right too, especially at the pro level. Makes you wonder doesn't it?? Hmmmm. Because foreign athletes got the Moderna shot which is an entirely different experiment than Pfizer's American one. And we forget that Hamlin died on a global stage during MNF. Yes, he died that night. No, I don't wear a tin foil wearing hat.

     

    Ok and so you know which shot Hamlin received? Secondly, you claimed that Hamlin died that night, yet he is alive today correct? Thirdly, do you know if Hamlin contracted covid-19? Numerous studies show that heart conditions like myocarditis are much more likely to be caused by the actual covid-19 virus itself, compared to the vaccine. Why is this simply ignored by the anti-vax crowd?

    Lastly, the story the OP linked shows that this Cabrera gentlemen received the Pfizer shot according to his own Twitter page (unless it's fake altogether, which is a possibility) and not the Modern shot, which you claim foreigners receive, so that counteracts your claim. an_light

    So the question remains,

    Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? I am talking about athletes that died and remain dead today? It seems that none of you can name a single one in any sport. I wonder why that is??? 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: One thing I find interesting is that none of these professional or high level athletes that immediately die from the vax are ever or American or on American soil. It seems to always occur in some developing, foreign country. Why is that?  Not a single NBA, MLB, NFL, NCAAB, NCAAF, college basketball, women's volleyball, player etc. has ever dropped dead immediately from the VAX. I mean the U.S. was the worst government in the world in terms of pushing this vax right? Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? The U.S. has a high vaccine right too, especially at the pro level. Makes you wonder doesn't it?? Hmmmm. Because foreign athletes got the Moderna shot which is an entirely different experiment than Pfizer's American one. And we forget that Hamlin died on a global stage during MNF. Yes, he died that night. No, I don't wear a tin foil wearing hat.

     

    Ok and so you know which shot Hamlin received? Secondly, you claimed that Hamlin died that night, yet he is alive today correct? Thirdly, do you know if Hamlin contracted covid-19? Numerous studies show that heart conditions like myocarditis are much more likely to be caused by the actual covid-19 virus itself, compared to the vaccine. Why is this simply ignored by the anti-vax crowd?

    Lastly, the story the OP linked shows that this Cabrera gentlemen received the Pfizer shot according to his own Twitter page (unless it's fake altogether, which is a possibility) and not the Modern shot, which you claim foreigners receive, so that counteracts your claim. an_light

    So the question remains,

    Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? I am talking about athletes that died and remain dead today? It seems that none of you can name a single one in any sport. I wonder why that is??? 

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 3:42 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: One thing I find interesting is that none of these professional or high level athletes that immediately die from the vax are ever or American or on American soil. It seems to always occur in some developing, foreign country. Why is that?  Not a single NBA, MLB, NFL, NCAAB, NCAAF, college basketball, women's volleyball, player etc. has ever dropped dead immediately from the VAX. I mean the U.S. was the worst government in the world in terms of pushing this vax right? Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? The U.S. has a high vaccine right too, especially at the pro level. Makes you wonder doesn't it?? Hmmmm. Because foreign athletes got the Moderna shot which is an entirely different experiment than Pfizer's American one. And we forget that Hamlin died on a global stage during MNF. Yes, he died that night. No, I don't wear a tin foil wearing hat.   Ok and so you know which shot Hamlin received? Secondly, you claimed that Hamlin died that night, yet he is alive today correct? Thirdly, do you know if Hamlin contracted covid-19? Numerous studies show that heart conditions like myocarditis are much more likely to be caused by the actual covid-19 virus itself, compared to the vaccine. Why is this simply ignored by the anti-vax crowd? Lastly, the story the OP linked shows that this Cabrera gentlemen received the Pfizer shot according to his own Twitter page (unless it's fake altogether, which is a possibility) and not the Modern shot, which you claim foreigners receive, so that counteracts your claim.  So the question remains, Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? I am talking about athletes that died and remain dead today? It seems that none of you can name a single one in any sport. I wonder why that is???

    Ask yourself why Hamlin wasn't carted off the field in an ambulance driven by an EMT but, instead, a cargo van that tricked people into thinking it was an ambulance and driven by what appeared to be a chauffeur. 

    And then ask yourself why did the government send the MIBs to the hospital to guard the room and control the flow of information and not let people see him?

    And then ask yourself, why was Hamlin fully covered in a hoody, mask and sunglasses when he made his first "public appearance" at the game?

    And why no pictures with him and his family, or hime and his teammates?

    And why wasn't he invited to to the center of the field to do the coin toss?

    Or why wasn't he on the sidelines with his teammates?

    Why didn't anyone make a big deal out of the fact that Hamlin was even there?

    And why did the Bills act uninterested in even playing the game, completely uninspired?

    I will tell you why...

    Because it wasn't Hamlin, it was an actor playing Hamlin.

    And players and coaches all knew it.

    They were a served a gag order ahead of the game.

    That's why!

    They used that night to quickly deflect the attention away from the deadly vaxx.

    It was trickery and many bought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: One thing I find interesting is that none of these professional or high level athletes that immediately die from the vax are ever or American or on American soil. It seems to always occur in some developing, foreign country. Why is that?  Not a single NBA, MLB, NFL, NCAAB, NCAAF, college basketball, women's volleyball, player etc. has ever dropped dead immediately from the VAX. I mean the U.S. was the worst government in the world in terms of pushing this vax right? Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? The U.S. has a high vaccine right too, especially at the pro level. Makes you wonder doesn't it?? Hmmmm. Because foreign athletes got the Moderna shot which is an entirely different experiment than Pfizer's American one. And we forget that Hamlin died on a global stage during MNF. Yes, he died that night. No, I don't wear a tin foil wearing hat.   Ok and so you know which shot Hamlin received? Secondly, you claimed that Hamlin died that night, yet he is alive today correct? Thirdly, do you know if Hamlin contracted covid-19? Numerous studies show that heart conditions like myocarditis are much more likely to be caused by the actual covid-19 virus itself, compared to the vaccine. Why is this simply ignored by the anti-vax crowd? Lastly, the story the OP linked shows that this Cabrera gentlemen received the Pfizer shot according to his own Twitter page (unless it's fake altogether, which is a possibility) and not the Modern shot, which you claim foreigners receive, so that counteracts your claim.  So the question remains, Why is it that none of our high level athletes are dying from the VAX right in front of our eyes at any level in any sport, and multiple times at that?? I mean there is so much evidence and it is so common right? I am talking about athletes that died and remain dead today? It seems that none of you can name a single one in any sport. I wonder why that is???

    Ask yourself why Hamlin wasn't carted off the field in an ambulance driven by an EMT but, instead, a cargo van that tricked people into thinking it was an ambulance and driven by what appeared to be a chauffeur. 

    And then ask yourself why did the government send the MIBs to the hospital to guard the room and control the flow of information and not let people see him?

    And then ask yourself, why was Hamlin fully covered in a hoody, mask and sunglasses when he made his first "public appearance" at the game?

    And why no pictures with him and his family, or hime and his teammates?

    And why wasn't he invited to to the center of the field to do the coin toss?

    Or why wasn't he on the sidelines with his teammates?

    Why didn't anyone make a big deal out of the fact that Hamlin was even there?

    And why did the Bills act uninterested in even playing the game, completely uninspired?

    I will tell you why...

    Because it wasn't Hamlin, it was an actor playing Hamlin.

    And players and coaches all knew it.

    They were a served a gag order ahead of the game.

    That's why!

    They used that night to quickly deflect the attention away from the deadly vaxx.

    It was trickery and many bought it.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 3:46 PM ET #30

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     An actoran_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

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    @SportsIntuition

     An actoran_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 3:46 PM ET #31

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     No worries I was just pointing out an NFL player died and was revived....

     

     

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    @DeezyAZ81

     No worries I was just pointing out an NFL player died and was revived....

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 3:59 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    Ask yourself why Hamlin wasn't carted off the field in an ambulance driven by an EMT but, instead, a cargo van that tricked people into thinking it was an ambulance and driven by what appeared to be a chauffeur.  And then ask yourself why did the government send the MIBs to the hospital to guard the room and control the flow of information and not let people see him? And then ask yourself, why was Hamlin fully covered in a hoody, mask and sunglasses when he made his first "public appearance" at the game? And why no pictures with him and his family, or hime and his teammates? And why wasn't he invited to to the center of the field to do the coin toss? Or why wasn't he on the sidelines with his teammates? Why didn't anyone make a big deal out of the fact that Hamlin was even there? And why did the Bills act uninterested in even playing the game, completely uninspired? I will tell you why... Because it wasn't Hamlin, it was an actor playing Hamlin. And players and coaches all knew it. They were a served a gag order ahead of the game. That's why! They used that night to quickly deflect the attention away from the deadly vaxx. It was trickery and many bought it.

    Geezus. Well I now know you are not interested in having a real discussion about this. an_light

    Where did you acquire all of this information about his hospital room, ambulance, etc.??? Which actor did they hire as this body double? What other movies has he been in? Why would he be taking pictures with family and friends immediately after such a traumatic event?? Odd take. 

    You should write fiction movie scripts. 

    You are not capable of dealing with facts and not interested in doing so clearly. Bottom line, I knew you could not name another American athlete or address my questions. peace_5

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    Ask yourself why Hamlin wasn't carted off the field in an ambulance driven by an EMT but, instead, a cargo van that tricked people into thinking it was an ambulance and driven by what appeared to be a chauffeur.  And then ask yourself why did the government send the MIBs to the hospital to guard the room and control the flow of information and not let people see him? And then ask yourself, why was Hamlin fully covered in a hoody, mask and sunglasses when he made his first "public appearance" at the game? And why no pictures with him and his family, or hime and his teammates? And why wasn't he invited to to the center of the field to do the coin toss? Or why wasn't he on the sidelines with his teammates? Why didn't anyone make a big deal out of the fact that Hamlin was even there? And why did the Bills act uninterested in even playing the game, completely uninspired? I will tell you why... Because it wasn't Hamlin, it was an actor playing Hamlin. And players and coaches all knew it. They were a served a gag order ahead of the game. That's why! They used that night to quickly deflect the attention away from the deadly vaxx. It was trickery and many bought it.

    Geezus. Well I now know you are not interested in having a real discussion about this. an_light

    Where did you acquire all of this information about his hospital room, ambulance, etc.??? Which actor did they hire as this body double? What other movies has he been in? Why would he be taking pictures with family and friends immediately after such a traumatic event?? Odd take. 

    You should write fiction movie scripts. 

    You are not capable of dealing with facts and not interested in doing so clearly. Bottom line, I knew you could not name another American athlete or address my questions. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81  No worries I was just pointing out an NFL player died and was revived....

    Yet, he did not remain dead and is alive and well and will play this season. an_lightUnless the actor that is playing him really has limited football skills. an_roll_laugh

    Any other foreign athletes that supposedly diee from vaccines still living now?? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81  No worries I was just pointing out an NFL player died and was revived....

    Yet, he did not remain dead and is alive and well and will play this season. an_lightUnless the actor that is playing him really has limited football skills. an_roll_laugh

    Any other foreign athletes that supposedly diee from vaccines still living now?? 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 4:03 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @SportsIntuition  An actor

    That is why you cannot take these people seriously. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @SportsIntuition  An actor

    That is why you cannot take these people seriously. an_light

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 4:17 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81  No worries I was just pointing out an NFL player died and was revived....

    So, 1 player who is alive, and his episode was never even proven to be related to covid or a vaccine. an_light

    No others, when it apparently is happening hundreds of times, if not thousands of times in other countries' athletes right? So weird, right???an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81  No worries I was just pointing out an NFL player died and was revived....

    So, 1 player who is alive, and his episode was never even proven to be related to covid or a vaccine. an_light

    No others, when it apparently is happening hundreds of times, if not thousands of times in other countries' athletes right? So weird, right???an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    Because it wasn't Hamlin, it was an actor playing Hamlin. And players and coaches all knew it. They were a served a gag order ahead of the game. That's why! They used that night to quickly deflect the attention away from the deadly vaxx. It was trickery and many bought it.

    So this actor. Was he a clone the government just had in the chamber? Just Damar Hamlin's clone, an NFL player that no one really knew of prior to the event? Or do the leagues just store athlete clones in warehouses like Westworld if something goes down??? That is some quick turnaround to find an identical twin actor for Hamlin so quickly. What kind of football player and season will this actor have this upcoming season?? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    Because it wasn't Hamlin, it was an actor playing Hamlin. And players and coaches all knew it. They were a served a gag order ahead of the game. That's why! They used that night to quickly deflect the attention away from the deadly vaxx. It was trickery and many bought it.

    So this actor. Was he a clone the government just had in the chamber? Just Damar Hamlin's clone, an NFL player that no one really knew of prior to the event? Or do the leagues just store athlete clones in warehouses like Westworld if something goes down??? That is some quick turnaround to find an identical twin actor for Hamlin so quickly. What kind of football player and season will this actor have this upcoming season?? 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2023 - 4:39 PM ET #37

    @DeezyAZ81

     I haven't heard much about overseas deaths so I can't comment on that

     

    But you brought up North America and Hamlin came to mind....thats all

     

     

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     I haven't heard much about overseas deaths so I can't comment on that

     

    But you brought up North America and Hamlin came to mind....thats all

     

     

     
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     Heard it was Robert Downey Jr.

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     Heard it was Robert Downey Jr.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    They just tested it for a short period in humans in paid study  groups (3-9 months) and released it to the general public as fear had run rampant among the mass population.... We have no data on what happens in years 3-5 of the vaccine as we didn't allow for paid test study groups to go on for that long......

    Historically, a few months is the longest period known for a vaccine side effect to appear.  mRNA vaccines are designed to degrade quickly in body after a few days.  Spike protein created only last a few weeks.  Unlike drugs with long term effects, no need to wait 3-5 years.  Food drug administration can grant emergency authorization after a few months of clinical trials for a new vaccine.  Besides, any rare adverse effect should already appear by now after millions of people vaccinated multiple times over 2 years.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    They just tested it for a short period in humans in paid study  groups (3-9 months) and released it to the general public as fear had run rampant among the mass population.... We have no data on what happens in years 3-5 of the vaccine as we didn't allow for paid test study groups to go on for that long......

    Historically, a few months is the longest period known for a vaccine side effect to appear.  mRNA vaccines are designed to degrade quickly in body after a few days.  Spike protein created only last a few weeks.  Unlike drugs with long term effects, no need to wait 3-5 years.  Food drug administration can grant emergency authorization after a few months of clinical trials for a new vaccine.  Besides, any rare adverse effect should already appear by now after millions of people vaccinated multiple times over 2 years.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81  I haven't heard much about overseas deaths so I can't comment on that   But you brought up North America and Hamlin came to mind....thats all

    Just search any foreign athlete death overseas, and the Internet will tell you that every single one is covid-19 vaccine related. an_light

    Interesting that it is not happening to pro and college athletes in waves in the U.S. in which vaccines rates are high. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81  I haven't heard much about overseas deaths so I can't comment on that   But you brought up North America and Hamlin came to mind....thats all

    Just search any foreign athlete death overseas, and the Internet will tell you that every single one is covid-19 vaccine related. an_light

    Interesting that it is not happening to pro and college athletes in waves in the U.S. in which vaccines rates are high. an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81  Heard it was Robert Downey Jr.

    Damn he is dynamic. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @DeezyAZ81  Heard it was Robert Downey Jr.

    Damn he is dynamic. peace_5

     
     
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    @thirdperson

     For sure, just looking at both sides of the coin

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     For sure, just looking at both sides of the coin

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