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    Mark_The_Narc
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:22 PM ET #676

    kap- can't argue with you chatting this one out to them. But dude, this isn't a pull your cash out offense. Its really not that cut and dry.
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    kap- can't argue with you chatting this one out to them. But dude, this isn't a pull your cash out offense. Its really not that cut and dry.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:23 PM ET #677

    That's complete horse shit if they keep that cancelled.
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    That's complete horse shit if they keep that cancelled.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:23 PM ET #678

    What about the people who had Lawler and Cena?

    It goes both ways. Lose a customer, win a customer.

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    What about the people who had Lawler and Cena?

    It goes both ways. Lose a customer, win a customer.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:23 PM ET #679

    Here is what they are feeding me


    Results will be graded/regraded based on the official result at ringside. A result may be revised or altered after initial presentation by the ring announcer. Results are not official for wagering purposes until verified by officials at the fighting venue. Official or unofficial sanctioning body overturns of a fight decision based on appeal, suspension, lawsuit, drug testing result, or any other fighter sanction will not be recognized for wagering purposes
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    Here is what they are feeding me


    Results will be graded/regraded based on the official result at ringside. A result may be revised or altered after initial presentation by the ring announcer. Results are not official for wagering purposes until verified by officials at the fighting venue. Official or unofficial sanctioning body overturns of a fight decision based on appeal, suspension, lawsuit, drug testing result, or any other fighter sanction will not be recognized for wagering purposes
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:23 PM ET #680

    I'll give you that if wwe says miz win grade it a win. Final decision.
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    I'll give you that if wwe says miz win grade it a win. Final decision.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:25 PM ET #681

    We can't compare the 2. Cole/Lawler was completely different from Miz/Cena.

    The RING ANNOUNCER announced Lawler as the winner while the BROADCASTER announced Cole the winner. The rules say that whatever comes out of the mouth of the RING ANNOUNCER is the winner.

    At first...the RING ANNOUNCER called the Miz/Cena match a draw. THEN...the match started again, Miz won and the RING ANNOUNCER declared MIZ the winner. The ACTUAL result was ANNOUNCED by the RING ANNOUNCER.

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    We can't compare the 2. Cole/Lawler was completely different from Miz/Cena.

    The RING ANNOUNCER announced Lawler as the winner while the BROADCASTER announced Cole the winner. The rules say that whatever comes out of the mouth of the RING ANNOUNCER is the winner.

    At first...the RING ANNOUNCER called the Miz/Cena match a draw. THEN...the match started again, Miz won and the RING ANNOUNCER declared MIZ the winner. The ACTUAL result was ANNOUNCED by the RING ANNOUNCER.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:25 PM ET #682

    https://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania

    WWE Champion The Miz def. John Cena

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    https://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania

    WWE Champion The Miz def. John Cena

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:26 PM ET #683

    WWE website says Miz. How is this not a win for Miz backers?
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    WWE website says Miz. How is this not a win for Miz backers?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:27 PM ET #684

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFlagCapper:

    What about the people who had Lawler and Cena?

    It goes both ways. Lose a customer, win a customer.

    I had Cena but can argue either way. But if they change MY result...I'll argue the other way that the FIRST result should be the deciding factor and that I bet on ONE match...not TWO.

    See...it can go either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedFlagCapper:

    What about the people who had Lawler and Cena?

    It goes both ways. Lose a customer, win a customer.

    I had Cena but can argue either way. But if they change MY result...I'll argue the other way that the FIRST result should be the deciding factor and that I bet on ONE match...not TWO.

    See...it can go either way.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:27 PM ET #685

    I'll be posting my chat here shortly ...
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    I'll be posting my chat here shortly ...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:27 PM ET #686

    To be honest, that is the right grading since they didn't have the defined rules set up properly.  The bet you put in is the first match.  The match started and ended and in the books mind. Anything else after, they don't care.  So betters who took Cena, got cancelled, bettors who took Miz got cancelled because there was no winner in the original match.

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    To be honest, that is the right grading since they didn't have the defined rules set up properly.  The bet you put in is the first match.  The match started and ended and in the books mind. Anything else after, they don't care.  So betters who took Cena, got cancelled, bettors who took Miz got cancelled because there was no winner in the original match.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:29 PM ET #687

    Its a lost cause

     if fuckin WWE didnt have to have a fuckin dumb double countout , i mean that sucks, having Miz and cant even fuckin get credit for it

     cant catch a fuckin break
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    Its a lost cause

     if fuckin WWE didnt have to have a fuckin dumb double countout , i mean that sucks, having Miz and cant even fuckin get credit for it

     cant catch a fuckin break
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:29 PM ET #688

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFlagCapper:

    To be honest, that is the right grading since they didn't have the defined rules set up properly.  The bet you put in is the first match.  The match started and ended and in the books mind. Anything else after, they don't care.  So betters who took Cena, got cancelled, bettors who took Miz got cancelled because there was no winner in the original match.



    lol it's like it was fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedFlagCapper:

    To be honest, that is the right grading since they didn't have the defined rules set up properly.  The bet you put in is the first match.  The match started and ended and in the books mind. Anything else after, they don't care.  So betters who took Cena, got cancelled, bettors who took Miz got cancelled because there was no winner in the original match.



    lol it's like it was fixed.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:30 PM ET #689

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.
    You are now chatting with 'Andy'
    Andy: Hello. How may I assist you today?
    ******: Did you guys really just grade any Miz tickets as cancelled instead of a win?
    ******: In wrestlemania betting?
    ******: The final decision, as announced by the ring announcer, was Miz as a winner
    ******: 5dimes waits 10 minutes until AFTER this happens to grade it as cancelled?
    ******: Please tell me this is going to be changed to Miz as a win
    ******: Or I will have to seriously consider taking my action somewhere else
    Andy: let me check
    Andy: Can you please confirm your account number and password?
    Andy: I also need the ticket number
    ******: yes
    ******: 5*******
    ******: pw: *******
    ******: ticket numbers
    ******: 77663274-1
    ******: and
    ******: 76921709-1
    Andy: ok checking
    ******: Thank you.
    ******: I request that your decision makers reconsider the decision to grade this as a cancelled play
    ******: I guarantee you that even WWE's official site will have the final result listed as Miz defeats John Cena
    ******: I have been a long time dedicated customer with 5dimes
    ******: I don't see how it can be graded as "cancelled" if the WWE website will show Miz defeating John Cena

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    Please wait for a site operator to respond.
    You are now chatting with 'Andy'
    Andy: Hello. How may I assist you today?
    ******: Did you guys really just grade any Miz tickets as cancelled instead of a win?
    ******: In wrestlemania betting?
    ******: The final decision, as announced by the ring announcer, was Miz as a winner
    ******: 5dimes waits 10 minutes until AFTER this happens to grade it as cancelled?
    ******: Please tell me this is going to be changed to Miz as a win
    ******: Or I will have to seriously consider taking my action somewhere else
    Andy: let me check
    Andy: Can you please confirm your account number and password?
    Andy: I also need the ticket number
    ******: yes
    ******: 5*******
    ******: pw: *******
    ******: ticket numbers
    ******: 77663274-1
    ******: and
    ******: 76921709-1
    Andy: ok checking
    ******: Thank you.
    ******: I request that your decision makers reconsider the decision to grade this as a cancelled play
    ******: I guarantee you that even WWE's official site will have the final result listed as Miz defeats John Cena
    ******: I have been a long time dedicated customer with 5dimes
    ******: I don't see how it can be graded as "cancelled" if the WWE website will show Miz defeating John Cena

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:30 PM ET #690

    ******: Look at their own website
    ******: https://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania
    ******: It shows:
    Andy: ok, the wager was graded as a draw and it's final since as per our terms of service: 5Dimes does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc., for wagering purposes.
    ******: "WWE Champion The Miz def. John Cena"
    ******: It's not overturned decision, the final decision, as even reflected by the WWE website, is Miz defeats Cena
    ******: Please reconsider this decision. This will not set a good precedent with your customer base.
    ******: The WWE website itself says he won!
    Andy: the decision is final, if you still want to claim this, you'd need to talk with tony
    ******: OK how would I get ahold of Tony



    VERY disappointing
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    ******: Look at their own website
    ******: https://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania
    ******: It shows:
    Andy: ok, the wager was graded as a draw and it's final since as per our terms of service: 5Dimes does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc., for wagering purposes.
    ******: "WWE Champion The Miz def. John Cena"
    ******: It's not overturned decision, the final decision, as even reflected by the WWE website, is Miz defeats Cena
    ******: Please reconsider this decision. This will not set a good precedent with your customer base.
    ******: The WWE website itself says he won!
    Andy: the decision is final, if you still want to claim this, you'd need to talk with tony
    ******: OK how would I get ahold of Tony



    VERY disappointing
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:30 PM ET #691

    bottom line, we get what we deserve for betting on fucking wrestling, this shit happens all the time

     lesson learned  
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    bottom line, we get what we deserve for betting on fucking wrestling, this shit happens all the time

     lesson learned  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:31 PM ET #692

    ******: OK how would I get ahold of Tony
    Andy: you can try tomorrow, he's gone already
    ******: No I mean where do I call
    Andy: he doesn't take calls, but you can chat with him in Live Help
    ******: OK
    ******: When is the best time to try to get him on live chat
    ******: and how do I ask for him, just say I need to talk to Tony?
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    ******: OK how would I get ahold of Tony
    Andy: you can try tomorrow, he's gone already
    ******: No I mean where do I call
    Andy: he doesn't take calls, but you can chat with him in Live Help
    ******: OK
    ******: When is the best time to try to get him on live chat
    ******: and how do I ask for him, just say I need to talk to Tony?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:33 PM ET #693

    talk to this tony guy. He'll offer you something. They will want to keep you as a customer

     

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    talk to this tony guy. He'll offer you something. They will want to keep you as a customer

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:34 PM ET #694

    Yeah seriously, ask him to grade it half win at least. I think thats fair.
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    Yeah seriously, ask him to grade it half win at least. I think thats fair.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:35 PM ET #695

    5dimes has been good and fair to me in the past. I hope that Tony is reasonable.
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    5dimes has been good and fair to me in the past. I hope that Tony is reasonable.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:36 PM ET #696

    Andy: ok, the wager was graded as a draw and it's final since as per our terms of service: 5Dimes does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc., for wagering purposes.

    I guess they have a point. Although staged...The Rock DID overturn the decision of the double countout. I agree that it's bullshit...but they graded it based on the fact that it was technically overturned.

     

    I'm never betting on this shit again. What a crock of shit...that's for sure.

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    Andy: ok, the wager was graded as a draw and it's final since as per our terms of service: 5Dimes does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc., for wagering purposes.

    I guess they have a point. Although staged...The Rock DID overturn the decision of the double countout. I agree that it's bullshit...but they graded it based on the fact that it was technically overturned.

     

    I'm never betting on this shit again. What a crock of shit...that's for sure.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2011 - 11:37 PM ET #697

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    5dimes has been good and fair to me in the past. I hope that Tony is reasonable.

     let me know Kap, 
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    5dimes has been good and fair to me in the past. I hope that Tony is reasonable.

     let me know Kap, 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickman80733:


     let me know Kap, 

    Yea...keep us posted. I'll check this thread tomorrow.

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     let me know Kap, 

    Yea...keep us posted. I'll check this thread tomorrow.

     
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    Very disappointing.
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    Very disappointing.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Andy: ok, the wager was graded as a draw and it's final since as per our terms of service: 5Dimes does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc., for wagering purposes.

    I guess they have a point. Although staged...The Rock DID overturn the decision of the double countout. I agree that it's bullshit...but they graded it based on the fact that it was technically overturned.

     

    I'm never betting on this shit again. What a crock of shit...that's for sure.

    True, there's no such thing as free money. The bets are there to entice people to put money on -1000 odds or +1000 odds. If you really want to bet this shit, you have to take the reasonable favourites and dogs like Edge and Rhodes.  There's a reason why Miz is +800 when they first post them and then favourites the day of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Andy: ok, the wager was graded as a draw and it's final since as per our terms of service: 5Dimes does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc., for wagering purposes.

    I guess they have a point. Although staged...The Rock DID overturn the decision of the double countout. I agree that it's bullshit...but they graded it based on the fact that it was technically overturned.

     

    I'm never betting on this shit again. What a crock of shit...that's for sure.

    True, there's no such thing as free money. The bets are there to entice people to put money on -1000 odds or +1000 odds. If you really want to bet this shit, you have to take the reasonable favourites and dogs like Edge and Rhodes.  There's a reason why Miz is +800 when they first post them and then favourites the day of.

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