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    Rod's NBL Round 7

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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 3:06 AM ET #1

    YTD 1-2

    o166.5 Hawks v Tigers

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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 5:31 AM ET #2

    o166.5 Hawks v Tigers =
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 11:25 PM ET #3

    Blaze +8.5 over Breakers

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    Blaze +8.5 over Breakers

     
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    Blaze +8.5 =
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2009 - 8:03 PM ET #6

    Taipans pk over Hawks

    I refuse to believe the Hawks are as good as where they are placed to start the season, their record is inflated by their schedule to date where they have enjoyed playing at home. This game represents their 3rd game in 6 days including travel from Perth then back up the Cairns. At home Taipans always hard to beat sans the Sixers game which I put down to as a bit of an aberration. Better effort against the Sixers last round in Adelaide should make the Snakes primed for this one IMO.

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    Taipans pk over Hawks

    I refuse to believe the Hawks are as good as where they are placed to start the season, their record is inflated by their schedule to date where they have enjoyed playing at home. This game represents their 3rd game in 6 days including travel from Perth then back up the Cairns. At home Taipans always hard to beat sans the Sixers game which I put down to as a bit of an aberration. Better effort against the Sixers last round in Adelaide should make the Snakes primed for this one IMO.

     
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    going against you here, so your bet is probably a lock.

    who would you rate above Wollongong? as everyone says it is very even, but i have trouble pointing to anyone who is consistently playing better. NZ and Perth are my two candidates. apart from whipping Adelaide, Perth's home wins have been close affairs and I don't see them as a standout. NZ are inconsistent and still a terrible road team.

    I like the way wollongong are playing, alot of movement on offence, lots of assists, balanced scoring - 6 players in double figures on wednesday, my numbers also have them the highest rated team defensively.

    you could be right about the schedule having an effect but Matt Campbell was the only player who played 30+ minutes on wednesday and I tend to think it is just as likely players are itching for court time.

    cairns cant put the ball in the hole. i have their average 2point % at 43% nearly 5% worse than any other team. this can change but I think it is just as likely it continues to get worse. Mills is averaging 10p @ 33% and Melzer 12p @ 33%. They pretty much need their output to double given they don't have alot of other offensive weapons. 

    i played Wollongong -1.5 $2.10 


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    going against you here, so your bet is probably a lock.

    who would you rate above Wollongong? as everyone says it is very even, but i have trouble pointing to anyone who is consistently playing better. NZ and Perth are my two candidates. apart from whipping Adelaide, Perth's home wins have been close affairs and I don't see them as a standout. NZ are inconsistent and still a terrible road team.

    I like the way wollongong are playing, alot of movement on offence, lots of assists, balanced scoring - 6 players in double figures on wednesday, my numbers also have them the highest rated team defensively.

    you could be right about the schedule having an effect but Matt Campbell was the only player who played 30+ minutes on wednesday and I tend to think it is just as likely players are itching for court time.

    cairns cant put the ball in the hole. i have their average 2point % at 43% nearly 5% worse than any other team. this can change but I think it is just as likely it continues to get worse. Mills is averaging 10p @ 33% and Melzer 12p @ 33%. They pretty much need their output to double given they don't have alot of other offensive weapons. 

    i played Wollongong -1.5 $2.10 


     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 3:25 AM ET #8

    massive game for Cairns for various reasons 
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    massive game for Cairns for various reasons 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 3:48 AM ET #9

    On form alone, the Hawks should win hands down. Have seen the Hawks played twice on TV and I must admit, they're definitely the surprise team thus far. Part of this is due to the cushy home schedule that they've enjoyed so far but this will catch up to them sooner or later. Liked the fact that this no frills team played hard and for each other on a nightly basis. Coach Mcleod has a tendency to bring the best out of his players, same cannot be said about Cairn's coach- has anyone ever heard of this guy?. This team is mentally soft and has a tendency to quit when the going gets tough. Cairn's back court is where the real problems lies imo, they're just not that good.

    Having said that, this is the NBL and anything is possible I guess. BOL degenerates
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    On form alone, the Hawks should win hands down. Have seen the Hawks played twice on TV and I must admit, they're definitely the surprise team thus far. Part of this is due to the cushy home schedule that they've enjoyed so far but this will catch up to them sooner or later. Liked the fact that this no frills team played hard and for each other on a nightly basis. Coach Mcleod has a tendency to bring the best out of his players, same cannot be said about Cairn's coach- has anyone ever heard of this guy?. This team is mentally soft and has a tendency to quit when the going gets tough. Cairn's back court is where the real problems lies imo, they're just not that good.

    Having said that, this is the NBL and anything is possible I guess. BOL degenerates
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:03 AM ET #10

    Motivation is definitely with the home team but will that be enough to get them the W tonight?
    This is a sandwich game for the Hawks as they could be caught looking ahead to the Crocs game tomorrow night.

    One thing is for sure though, if the hawks win tonight. This will set up a very nice play on the Crocs tomorrow night. 
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    Motivation is definitely with the home team but will that be enough to get them the W tonight?
    This is a sandwich game for the Hawks as they could be caught looking ahead to the Crocs game tomorrow night.

    One thing is for sure though, if the hawks win tonight. This will set up a very nice play on the Crocs tomorrow night. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:09 AM ET #11

    yeah big revenge spot for the Crocs tomorrow
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    yeah big revenge spot for the Crocs tomorrow
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:11 AM ET #12

    im still confused.. it makes sense to bet the winning team IE Wollongong however last time they played:

    Cairns - Had:

    1. more shots (missed alot)

    2. Was away from home

    3. More offensive boards

    4. More FT's

    If they do 5-10 % better then last time at their at HOME then they SHOULD WIN...

    I know Im gonna end up feeling bad about my choice so I think I'll sit on the fence for another 20 Mins !

     

     

     

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    im still confused.. it makes sense to bet the winning team IE Wollongong however last time they played:

    Cairns - Had:

    1. more shots (missed alot)

    2. Was away from home

    3. More offensive boards

    4. More FT's

    If they do 5-10 % better then last time at their at HOME then they SHOULD WIN...

    I know Im gonna end up feeling bad about my choice so I think I'll sit on the fence for another 20 Mins !

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:15 AM ET #13

    Cooler, Cairns is a totally different kettle of fish at home, they've had a week to ponder their recent shitfullness, they're coming off a 50 point loss at home and they've copped it twice from the Hawks this season at their place.

    No doubt which team has the bigger fire in it's belly tonight.

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    Cooler, Cairns is a totally different kettle of fish at home, they've had a week to ponder their recent shitfullness, they're coming off a 50 point loss at home and they've copped it twice from the Hawks this season at their place.

    No doubt which team has the bigger fire in it's belly tonight.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:24 AM ET #14

    Fire in belly not always equal getting ball through round hoop
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    Fire in belly not always equal getting ball through round hoop
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:34 AM ET #15

    well its done.. Battler pushed me over the line..

    2.3 Units..

    Im going to go with the team in FORM being Wollongong.. too many ifs and buts with Cairns although it would not be surprising to see them SHOW up.

    Like battler said Wollongong WILL get 80 + points so its up to Cairns to get their shit together..personally I hope they don't !

    GL ALL..

     

     

     

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    well its done.. Battler pushed me over the line..

    2.3 Units..

    Im going to go with the team in FORM being Wollongong.. too many ifs and buts with Cairns although it would not be surprising to see them SHOW up.

    Like battler said Wollongong WILL get 80 + points so its up to Cairns to get their shit together..personally I hope they don't !

    GL ALL..

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 6:14 AM ET #16

    Taipans pk =
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    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:


    going against you here, so your bet is probably a lock.

    who would you rate above Wollongong? as everyone says it is very even, but i have trouble pointing to anyone who is consistently playing better. NZ and Perth are my two candidates. apart from whipping Adelaide, Perth's home wins have been close affairs and I don't see them as a standout. NZ are inconsistent and still a terrible road team.

    I like the way wollongong are playing, alot of movement on offence, lots of assists, balanced scoring - 6 players in double figures on wednesday, my numbers also have them the highest rated team defensively.

    you could be right about the schedule having an effect but Matt Campbell was the only player who played 30+ minutes on wednesday and I tend to think it is just as likely players are itching for court time.

    cairns cant put the ball in the hole. i have their average 2point % at 43% nearly 5% worse than any other team. this can change but I think it is just as likely it continues to get worse. Mills is averaging 10p @ 33% and Melzer 12p @ 33%. They pretty much need their output to double given they don't have alot of other offensive weapons. 

    i played Wollongong -1.5 $2.10 


    Don't get me wrong, the Hawks have been playing great basketball since the preseason tournament. The games I have seen them play they are a very solid basketball team but nothing more. Apart from McKee they lack star power which is what you really need to make a decent run come playoff time. However as I mentioned their record is a little deceiving

    * They have had a very favorable schedule to date stacked with home games to start the season.

    * They are one of the few teams, in fact perhaps along with the Crocs the only teams that have retained the core group of players from their roster from last season meaning whilst other teams are still working on chemistry and trying to overcome injuries to key players the Hawks have gotten the jump

    Looking at their upcoming schedule I think we will see a correction in their record and once the other teams (and far for more talented teams IMO such as the Blaze, Breakers, Tigers and Cats get back key players/find their chemistry) I believe the Hawks will slide down the ladder. Tomorrow night is going to be a huge test for them against the Crocs, personally I don't see how they escape a significant beating.

     

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    going against you here, so your bet is probably a lock.

    who would you rate above Wollongong? as everyone says it is very even, but i have trouble pointing to anyone who is consistently playing better. NZ and Perth are my two candidates. apart from whipping Adelaide, Perth's home wins have been close affairs and I don't see them as a standout. NZ are inconsistent and still a terrible road team.

    I like the way wollongong are playing, alot of movement on offence, lots of assists, balanced scoring - 6 players in double figures on wednesday, my numbers also have them the highest rated team defensively.

    you could be right about the schedule having an effect but Matt Campbell was the only player who played 30+ minutes on wednesday and I tend to think it is just as likely players are itching for court time.

    cairns cant put the ball in the hole. i have their average 2point % at 43% nearly 5% worse than any other team. this can change but I think it is just as likely it continues to get worse. Mills is averaging 10p @ 33% and Melzer 12p @ 33%. They pretty much need their output to double given they don't have alot of other offensive weapons. 

    i played Wollongong -1.5 $2.10 


    Don't get me wrong, the Hawks have been playing great basketball since the preseason tournament. The games I have seen them play they are a very solid basketball team but nothing more. Apart from McKee they lack star power which is what you really need to make a decent run come playoff time. However as I mentioned their record is a little deceiving

    * They have had a very favorable schedule to date stacked with home games to start the season.

    * They are one of the few teams, in fact perhaps along with the Crocs the only teams that have retained the core group of players from their roster from last season meaning whilst other teams are still working on chemistry and trying to overcome injuries to key players the Hawks have gotten the jump

    Looking at their upcoming schedule I think we will see a correction in their record and once the other teams (and far for more talented teams IMO such as the Blaze, Breakers, Tigers and Cats get back key players/find their chemistry) I believe the Hawks will slide down the ladder. Tomorrow night is going to be a huge test for them against the Crocs, personally I don't see how they escape a significant beating.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 1:32 AM ET #19

    Crocs -9.5 over Hawks

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    Crocs -9.5 over Hawks

     
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    good call.

    agree tonight looks a tough ask.

    good spot for adelaide teams have a poor record after a thursday NZ game. melbourne and townsville lost by 20+ when they did it and adelaide got taken to ot by cairns last week. wasn't overly impressed with the way GC played in NZ, they hit alot of shots: 14 of 19 3s, 66% from the field, and made some nice drives to the basket but it was mainly one on one stuff rather than team play, not many assists. 

    hard to put money on 36ers though, but think i will.
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    good call.

    agree tonight looks a tough ask.

    good spot for adelaide teams have a poor record after a thursday NZ game. melbourne and townsville lost by 20+ when they did it and adelaide got taken to ot by cairns last week. wasn't overly impressed with the way GC played in NZ, they hit alot of shots: 14 of 19 3s, 66% from the field, and made some nice drives to the basket but it was mainly one on one stuff rather than team play, not many assists. 

    hard to put money on 36ers though, but think i will.
     
     
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    Crocs -9.5 =  

    And that after I was finished laying into the Hawks

    3-1 for the round

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    Crocs -9.5 =  

    And that after I was finished laying into the Hawks

    3-1 for the round

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