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    Euroleague Playoffs

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    nropp11
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2012 - 1:01 PM ET #1

    0-0, +0.00



    FC Barcelona is probably the overwhelming favorite in this 5-game series as the offense is pretty dang good, with some quality shooters and a couple decent big guys in the post, most notably Chuck Eidson (played at South Carolina). Eidson has been battling a knee injury as of late, and actually has missed the past two games – played mildly in the most recent game, but he’s a nice part to the offense. Since the injury, this team has put up the following points per possession totals:

    0.86
    0.76
    1.08
    0.85
    0.89
    0.95

    Chemistry just isn’t there without him, and considering this is a five game series, it might take a bit of work to get back in the mix. I would compare Kazan to a Western Illinois; Slowest team in the league, they use their posts in a majority of the offensive sets, and the offense flat out sucks. They’re a pretty veteran club, so I think they have the opportunity to slow this game down. These two met twice this year, both games went 75 and 69 possessions, with the most recent meeting hitting the 69 possession barrier. Not too many teams held Barcelona below the 70 possession barrier, and Kazan was actually in the most recent game despite losing by 13. Barcelona comes in struggling, and Unics Kazan comes in having completed a comeback in their most recent game after a tough couple weeks of competition. I think Unics match up well, but only if they can control the pace. Barcelona’s favored by so much b/c of earlier season results, whereas the offense just hasn’t been performing. Probably going to hit between 65-70 possessions, and barring FC Barcelona finding their offensive stroke, or Kazan somehow figuring out how to score. Just not the best of spots for either team with Barcelona coming in banged up, and Unics coming in having just played a couple tough weeks of basketball with very little offensive success. Might be more value playing the +12 or +13, just thought the under spot seemed more suitable.

    No interest in the Pana/Maccabi game today, although this should be a good series (a bit concerned that Maccabi has had some three-point shooters leave the team, most notably Jon Scheyer – Duke). Also have a good series kicking off tomorrow in Olympiakos/Montepashci. Focus of the playoffs will be on these three series, no interest in the CSKA series.

    1* FC Barcelona/Unics Kazan Under 135.5

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    0-0, +0.00



    FC Barcelona is probably the overwhelming favorite in this 5-game series as the offense is pretty dang good, with some quality shooters and a couple decent big guys in the post, most notably Chuck Eidson (played at South Carolina). Eidson has been battling a knee injury as of late, and actually has missed the past two games – played mildly in the most recent game, but he’s a nice part to the offense. Since the injury, this team has put up the following points per possession totals:

    0.86
    0.76
    1.08
    0.85
    0.89
    0.95

    Chemistry just isn’t there without him, and considering this is a five game series, it might take a bit of work to get back in the mix. I would compare Kazan to a Western Illinois; Slowest team in the league, they use their posts in a majority of the offensive sets, and the offense flat out sucks. They’re a pretty veteran club, so I think they have the opportunity to slow this game down. These two met twice this year, both games went 75 and 69 possessions, with the most recent meeting hitting the 69 possession barrier. Not too many teams held Barcelona below the 70 possession barrier, and Kazan was actually in the most recent game despite losing by 13. Barcelona comes in struggling, and Unics Kazan comes in having completed a comeback in their most recent game after a tough couple weeks of competition. I think Unics match up well, but only if they can control the pace. Barcelona’s favored by so much b/c of earlier season results, whereas the offense just hasn’t been performing. Probably going to hit between 65-70 possessions, and barring FC Barcelona finding their offensive stroke, or Kazan somehow figuring out how to score. Just not the best of spots for either team with Barcelona coming in banged up, and Unics coming in having just played a couple tough weeks of basketball with very little offensive success. Might be more value playing the +12 or +13, just thought the under spot seemed more suitable.

    No interest in the Pana/Maccabi game today, although this should be a good series (a bit concerned that Maccabi has had some three-point shooters leave the team, most notably Jon Scheyer – Duke). Also have a good series kicking off tomorrow in Olympiakos/Montepashci. Focus of the playoffs will be on these three series, no interest in the CSKA series.

    1* FC Barcelona/Unics Kazan Under 135.5

    GL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2012 - 1:03 PM ET #2

    Good luck today!
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    Good luck today!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2012 - 1:14 PM ET #3

    Thx, any college today?
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    Thx, any college today?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2012 - 1:22 PM ET #4

    Good luck i love it!!!  euroleague!
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    Good luck i love it!!!  euroleague!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 10:33 AM ET #5

    0-0, -1.10

    Wednesday: 1* Olympiakos +7.5

    GL
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    0-0, -1.10

    Wednesday: 1* Olympiakos +7.5

    GL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 11:42 AM ET #6

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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 2:27 PM ET #7

    Good luck Chief !

    Waiting for your CBB !
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    Good luck Chief !

    Waiting for your CBB !
     
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    Posted: Mar. 21, 2012 - 9:43 PM ET #8

    Olympiakos were down by 10 with 8min to go in the final quarter
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    Olympiakos were down by 10 with 8min to go in the final quarter
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2012 - 9:47 AM ET #9

    1-1, -0.10


    Panathinaikos/Maccabi
    First game ended 93-73 in 75 possessions. Pace is pretty standard for both teams, but a few key things to note here. First, in a game that ended at 166, Maccabi didn’t score for over a five minute stretch that went from the end of the 1st quarter into the 2nd quarter. They were outscored by 10 and 11 in those two quarters respectively, which was the difference in the game. So, not really sure on the pace #’s. I watched the first meeting and it seemed like the pace was pretty consistent throughout, however, the fourth quarter (which was the lowest scoring quarter at just 37 points) was a bit due to the fact that both teams put in some players to get action as the game was seemingly out of reach. So, while the pace stayed consistent, the scoring did not to end the game, yet this still sailed over. Pana averaged about 73 possessions on the year while Maccabi came in about 73 as well. If I had to guess, the pace in this one should be pretty fast, because the one thing that hits home is the fact that Maccabi just don’t have a PG. They turn the ball over a ton, they’ve been lost since Farmar and Scheyer left the team and actually have Langford (ex-Kansas) running the point. If you don’t have a PG, you can’t slow the pace, and you’re going to turn the ball over a ton (which they did in game #1 – 18 turnovers), so the pace will be there with a ton of easy buckets. Panathinaikos offense is pretty darn good. They average 80+ on the year and they’re extremely balanced. They’re in a no-pressure situation today, and assuming Maccabi doesn’t go another five minutes without a single point, the pace in this one, and the styles that each play should push this game over, just not worth risking on the b2b series style.

    FC Barcelona/Unics
    Not really much to this one other than what I stated in the first post of this thread, and now I’m catching a couple extra points of value. First game hit 68 possessions, exactly what I wanted, however, the first half had 38 of those 68 possessions. Unics couldn’t control the pace of the 1H, but they did in the 2nd and got back into the game. Expecting a really slow game, along with not so great of an offensive output from Unics as I feel they over-achieved a bit in the first meeting.

    1* FC Barcelona/Unics Under 137.5

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    1-1, -0.10


    Panathinaikos/Maccabi
    First game ended 93-73 in 75 possessions. Pace is pretty standard for both teams, but a few key things to note here. First, in a game that ended at 166, Maccabi didn’t score for over a five minute stretch that went from the end of the 1st quarter into the 2nd quarter. They were outscored by 10 and 11 in those two quarters respectively, which was the difference in the game. So, not really sure on the pace #’s. I watched the first meeting and it seemed like the pace was pretty consistent throughout, however, the fourth quarter (which was the lowest scoring quarter at just 37 points) was a bit due to the fact that both teams put in some players to get action as the game was seemingly out of reach. So, while the pace stayed consistent, the scoring did not to end the game, yet this still sailed over. Pana averaged about 73 possessions on the year while Maccabi came in about 73 as well. If I had to guess, the pace in this one should be pretty fast, because the one thing that hits home is the fact that Maccabi just don’t have a PG. They turn the ball over a ton, they’ve been lost since Farmar and Scheyer left the team and actually have Langford (ex-Kansas) running the point. If you don’t have a PG, you can’t slow the pace, and you’re going to turn the ball over a ton (which they did in game #1 – 18 turnovers), so the pace will be there with a ton of easy buckets. Panathinaikos offense is pretty darn good. They average 80+ on the year and they’re extremely balanced. They’re in a no-pressure situation today, and assuming Maccabi doesn’t go another five minutes without a single point, the pace in this one, and the styles that each play should push this game over, just not worth risking on the b2b series style.

    FC Barcelona/Unics
    Not really much to this one other than what I stated in the first post of this thread, and now I’m catching a couple extra points of value. First game hit 68 possessions, exactly what I wanted, however, the first half had 38 of those 68 possessions. Unics couldn’t control the pace of the 1H, but they did in the 2nd and got back into the game. Expecting a really slow game, along with not so great of an offensive output from Unics as I feel they over-achieved a bit in the first meeting.

    1* FC Barcelona/Unics Under 137.5

    GL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2012 - 5:37 PM ET #10

    Nice call
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    Nice call
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2012 - 5:41 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by xbaggypants:

    Nice call


    Passed on the other game, probably shouldn't have (94-92 final).
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbaggypants:

    Nice call


    Passed on the other game, probably shouldn't have (94-92 final).
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2012 - 6:12 PM ET #12

    Nice play sir,

    I was going to bet it as well, but when I saw that line up a few points this morning I decided to stay off. Bad decision.

    GL this weekend in NCAA
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    Nice play sir,

    I was going to bet it as well, but when I saw that line up a few points this morning I decided to stay off. Bad decision.

    GL this weekend in NCAA
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2012 - 10:50 AM ET #13

    2-1, +0.90

    Super duper spot play here. These two teams are fairly even as I noted before this should be a tough grind it out series that has the possibility of hitting 5 games. They battled last year in the playoffs, Olympiakos won the 1st game at home, before losing the next three and dropping out of the playoffs. In the first meeting here, Olympiakos went on a 29-7 run to end the game and they outscored Montepaschi by 15 in the final stanza with some good defense from Joey Dorsey, and an unstoppable Acie Law late. Now, that isn't all that out of the ordinary for a team to go on a run to end the game, but they also did it without their best player on the court as he fouled out with about 5 minutes to go. Shoe's on the other foot today. All Olympiakos wanted to do was split one of these games, so they're content with just the opening win here, while Montepaschi needs a win to send this series back to even on the road. Should be a nice bounce-back spot with immediate revenge for Montepaschi Siena. They outplayed them for three quarters, just thought they had the game wrapped up when Spanoulis fouled out. Dorsey isn't really the best of defenders, so Andersen can get whatever he wants (he was an NBA draft pick a few years back from Australia). Just some weird things that happened in that first meeting that probably don't happen again here in a bounce-back. Hoping for a waxing.

    1* Montepaschi Siena -8

    Nothing in the other series, not touching that one at all.

    GL
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    2-1, +0.90

    Super duper spot play here. These two teams are fairly even as I noted before this should be a tough grind it out series that has the possibility of hitting 5 games. They battled last year in the playoffs, Olympiakos won the 1st game at home, before losing the next three and dropping out of the playoffs. In the first meeting here, Olympiakos went on a 29-7 run to end the game and they outscored Montepaschi by 15 in the final stanza with some good defense from Joey Dorsey, and an unstoppable Acie Law late. Now, that isn't all that out of the ordinary for a team to go on a run to end the game, but they also did it without their best player on the court as he fouled out with about 5 minutes to go. Shoe's on the other foot today. All Olympiakos wanted to do was split one of these games, so they're content with just the opening win here, while Montepaschi needs a win to send this series back to even on the road. Should be a nice bounce-back spot with immediate revenge for Montepaschi Siena. They outplayed them for three quarters, just thought they had the game wrapped up when Spanoulis fouled out. Dorsey isn't really the best of defenders, so Andersen can get whatever he wants (he was an NBA draft pick a few years back from Australia). Just some weird things that happened in that first meeting that probably don't happen again here in a bounce-back. Hoping for a waxing.

    1* Montepaschi Siena -8

    Nothing in the other series, not touching that one at all.

    GL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2012 - 5:42 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:

    2-1, +0.90

    Super duper spot play here. These two teams are fairly even as I noted before this should be a tough grind it out series that has the possibility of hitting 5 games. They battled last year in the playoffs, Olympiakos won the 1st game at home, before losing the next three and dropping out of the playoffs. In the first meeting here, Olympiakos went on a 29-7 run to end the game and they outscored Montepaschi by 15 in the final stanza with some good defense from Joey Dorsey, and an unstoppable Acie Law late. Now, that isn't all that out of the ordinary for a team to go on a run to end the game, but they also did it without their best player on the court as he fouled out with about 5 minutes to go. Shoe's on the other foot today. All Olympiakos wanted to do was split one of these games, so they're content with just the opening win here, while Montepaschi needs a win to send this series back to even on the road. Should be a nice bounce-back spot with immediate revenge for Montepaschi Siena. They outplayed them for three quarters, just thought they had the game wrapped up when Spanoulis fouled out. Dorsey isn't really the best of defenders, so Andersen can get whatever he wants (he was an NBA draft pick a few years back from Australia). Just some weird things that happened in that first meeting that probably don't happen again here in a bounce-back. Hoping for a waxing.

    1* Montepaschi Siena -8

    Nothing in the other series, not touching that one at all.

    GL

     

    This match is almost over and it looks like Siena will win but cover, so take this Q w/ a grain of salt.  But I was thinking it at the time I first read this point, but figured you didn't check this often so it wasn't worth asking.

    If Siena and Oly are fairly even, why would you take either of them giving 8?  Doesn't an -8 pt spread mean that one team is far superior to another. Even as a situational  or spot play, it seems that -8 has already built in the "situation" or spot.

    Again I realize that Siena had a 14 point lead going into the 4Q.  And this post wouldn't be written if Siena could hold the lead. But they didn't. And in fact, this game played out identically to G1  (Siena jumps to a big lead then Oly catches up late) except Oly lost G2.

    I'm not asking this Q to rub in the loss, more to understand a situation where you think an -8 favorite is the correct call despite but evenly matched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:

    2-1, +0.90

    Super duper spot play here. These two teams are fairly even as I noted before this should be a tough grind it out series that has the possibility of hitting 5 games. They battled last year in the playoffs, Olympiakos won the 1st game at home, before losing the next three and dropping out of the playoffs. In the first meeting here, Olympiakos went on a 29-7 run to end the game and they outscored Montepaschi by 15 in the final stanza with some good defense from Joey Dorsey, and an unstoppable Acie Law late. Now, that isn't all that out of the ordinary for a team to go on a run to end the game, but they also did it without their best player on the court as he fouled out with about 5 minutes to go. Shoe's on the other foot today. All Olympiakos wanted to do was split one of these games, so they're content with just the opening win here, while Montepaschi needs a win to send this series back to even on the road. Should be a nice bounce-back spot with immediate revenge for Montepaschi Siena. They outplayed them for three quarters, just thought they had the game wrapped up when Spanoulis fouled out. Dorsey isn't really the best of defenders, so Andersen can get whatever he wants (he was an NBA draft pick a few years back from Australia). Just some weird things that happened in that first meeting that probably don't happen again here in a bounce-back. Hoping for a waxing.

    1* Montepaschi Siena -8

    Nothing in the other series, not touching that one at all.

    GL

     

    This match is almost over and it looks like Siena will win but cover, so take this Q w/ a grain of salt.  But I was thinking it at the time I first read this point, but figured you didn't check this often so it wasn't worth asking.

    If Siena and Oly are fairly even, why would you take either of them giving 8?  Doesn't an -8 pt spread mean that one team is far superior to another. Even as a situational  or spot play, it seems that -8 has already built in the "situation" or spot.

    Again I realize that Siena had a 14 point lead going into the 4Q.  And this post wouldn't be written if Siena could hold the lead. But they didn't. And in fact, this game played out identically to G1  (Siena jumps to a big lead then Oly catches up late) except Oly lost G2.

    I'm not asking this Q to rub in the loss, more to understand a situation where you think an -8 favorite is the correct call despite but evenly matched.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    This match is almost over and it looks like Siena will win but NOT cover, so take this Q w/ a grain of salt. 

    That's what I meant to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    This match is almost over and it looks like Siena will win but NOT cover, so take this Q w/ a grain of salt. 

    That's what I meant to say.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    That's what I meant to say.


    Home court + angle + motivation.

    Didn't work out here, though. Siena has outscored them and won 6 of the 8 quarters in the series, but for some odd reason they have been outscored by 25+ in the 4th quarters. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    That's what I meant to say.


    Home court + angle + motivation.

    Didn't work out here, though. Siena has outscored them and won 6 of the 8 quarters in the series, but for some odd reason they have been outscored by 25+ in the 4th quarters. 
     
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    2-2, -0.20

    1* FC Barcelona/Unics Over 133.5

    GL


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    2-2, -0.20

    1* FC Barcelona/Unics Over 133.5

    GL


     
     
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    these teams are trash 
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    these teams are trash 
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