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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2008 - 5:05 AM ET #1

    Bulldogs/Saints

    I've decided to have a crack at the first match of the round. I've thought a lot about this game. St Kilda's tall forwards versus the very fast and skilled dogs. Its indoors at the dome, so its perfect conditions for the saints talls.

     

    Lets start with their history, saints have won 4 of the last 5 with the last one a draw. The dogs have had some problems with the saints height in all these matches.

     

    Over the summer, they have both improved the rucks. Should be a good contest of quality rucks Hudson/Minson versus King/Gardiner.

     

    Many say it'll be won/lost on the saints forward line, IMO it'll be in the midfield. The dogs midfield, Cooney especially is playing exceptional and should keep them competitive. But Fisher should keep West quiet(ish) as he's played 2 good games this year and played well on him in the past. I could go on with other matchups but I think the saints hold the edge in a lot of them.

     

    With how a lot of the matches have played out this year, margins have been blown out in the second half with the increased speed of the game. The saints have had big leads at some stage in all the past 5 matches between the 2 teams and I think they’ll do it again and cover.
    Saints -15.5

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    Bulldogs/Saints

    I've decided to have a crack at the first match of the round. I've thought a lot about this game. St Kilda's tall forwards versus the very fast and skilled dogs. Its indoors at the dome, so its perfect conditions for the saints talls.

     

    Lets start with their history, saints have won 4 of the last 5 with the last one a draw. The dogs have had some problems with the saints height in all these matches.

     

    Over the summer, they have both improved the rucks. Should be a good contest of quality rucks Hudson/Minson versus King/Gardiner.

     

    Many say it'll be won/lost on the saints forward line, IMO it'll be in the midfield. The dogs midfield, Cooney especially is playing exceptional and should keep them competitive. But Fisher should keep West quiet(ish) as he's played 2 good games this year and played well on him in the past. I could go on with other matchups but I think the saints hold the edge in a lot of them.

     

    With how a lot of the matches have played out this year, margins have been blown out in the second half with the increased speed of the game. The saints have had big leads at some stage in all the past 5 matches between the 2 teams and I think they’ll do it again and cover.
    Saints -15.5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2008 - 5:20 AM ET #2

    It just struck me Tozer. All those season with the Swans and the super flood then Rocket goes to the Dogs and no defense at all

    Great game should be nice and high scoring
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    It just struck me Tozer. All those season with the Swans and the super flood then Rocket goes to the Dogs and no defense at all

    Great game should be nice and high scoring
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2008 - 5:40 AM ET #3

    Yeah they've both got great rebounding half back lines, should be fast paced, back and forth, high scoring game.
     
    I think it'll be very close for the first half
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    Yeah they've both got great rebounding half back lines, should be fast paced, back and forth, high scoring game.
     
    I think it'll be very close for the first half
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 8:36 PM ET #4

    We've got 3 pretty even contests on today. First pick...
     
    Brisbane/Sydney
    Firstly I must warn, I'm a lions supporter. I try and stay as unbiased as possible and only bet on a match they are playing if I truely see value. Sydney matchup very well on the lions and haven't lost to them since 2004. Since their last game, which was a draw (at the SCG) the lions have Bradshaw back and Johnstone, 2 huge assets. They are down a couple in defence though, big loss of Drummond. While their forward line isn't at full strength (with Mcgrath out) its pretty potent and should stretch the swans defence. Big HGA to the lions and while the swans have been playing great football, I'm siding with the rising lions to get another hard fought win.
    Lions -5.5
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    We've got 3 pretty even contests on today. First pick...
     
    Brisbane/Sydney
    Firstly I must warn, I'm a lions supporter. I try and stay as unbiased as possible and only bet on a match they are playing if I truely see value. Sydney matchup very well on the lions and haven't lost to them since 2004. Since their last game, which was a draw (at the SCG) the lions have Bradshaw back and Johnstone, 2 huge assets. They are down a couple in defence though, big loss of Drummond. While their forward line isn't at full strength (with Mcgrath out) its pretty potent and should stretch the swans defence. Big HGA to the lions and while the swans have been playing great football, I'm siding with the rising lions to get another hard fought win.
    Lions -5.5
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 9:07 PM ET #5

    Kangas/Hawks
    Hawks have played exceptional footy this year, a team that will just get stronger and stronger over the coming year. North on the other hand haven't been setting the world on fire. Short and sweet...
    Hawks -15.5

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    Kangas/Hawks
    Hawks have played exceptional footy this year, a team that will just get stronger and stronger over the coming year. North on the other hand haven't been setting the world on fire. Short and sweet...
    Hawks -15.5

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 9:25 PM ET #6

    kangaroos beaten them by 6 goals in each of the last 2 meetings
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    kangaroos beaten them by 6 goals in each of the last 2 meetings
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 9:33 PM ET #7

    Gman you just convinced me to play the over then
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    Gman you just convinced me to play the over then
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 9:37 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by ecoute:

    Gman you just convinced me to play the over then


    oh did I lol, I hope you win :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecoute:

    Gman you just convinced me to play the over then


    oh did I lol, I hope you win :)
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 10:31 PM ET #9

    Thanks Gman, yeak I know, I just think they are playing much better football than the kangas. Thomspson with the possiblity of Hale in the north forward line could present some height problems for Hawthorn but I'm still going with the hawks.
     
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    Thanks Gman, yeak I know, I just think they are playing much better football than the kangas. Thomspson with the possiblity of Hale in the north forward line could present some height problems for Hawthorn but I'm still going with the hawks.
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 10:41 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by tozer:

    Thanks Gman, yeak I know, I just think they are playing much better football than the kangas. Thomspson with the possiblity of Hale in the north forward line could present some height problems for Hawthorn but I'm still going with the hawks.
     


    Yeah well for what it's worth I think the Hawks should cover, only reason I didn't select it was because kangaroos have played them well recently including knocking them out of the finals last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tozer:

    Thanks Gman, yeak I know, I just think they are playing much better football than the kangas. Thomspson with the possiblity of Hale in the north forward line could present some height problems for Hawthorn but I'm still going with the hawks.
     


    Yeah well for what it's worth I think the Hawks should cover, only reason I didn't select it was because kangaroos have played them well recently including knocking them out of the finals last year.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 10:46 PM ET #11

    This time...
    Rioli (pickup for Hawks) playing like he's a seasoned champion.
    Stokes, (another pickup) also playing great footy
    Archer (out for Roos)

    Also Wells and Harris need to perform better if the Roos are going to have a chance. So far this season they have under performed. They won't beat the Hawks midfield if they don't play better today.

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    This time...
    Rioli (pickup for Hawks) playing like he's a seasoned champion.
    Stokes, (another pickup) also playing great footy
    Archer (out for Roos)

    Also Wells and Harris need to perform better if the Roos are going to have a chance. So far this season they have under performed. They won't beat the Hawks midfield if they don't play better today.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2008 - 11:13 PM ET #12

    Who are they going to play on Buddy? Bring Rawlings down back ?
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    Who are they going to play on Buddy? Bring Rawlings down back ?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 12:19 AM ET #13

    tozer, if you would have covered up your selection on the Lions/Swans game, I would have put $100 on you tipped the Swans to cover.

    Your write-up is 95% in favor of the Swans covering, if not winning outright.

    Peter Everitt is also back for the Swannies and I look for them to continue their world-beating ways this week as well.  Recent form and history against the Lions only furthers this feeling.

    GL on which ever side you choose!
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    tozer, if you would have covered up your selection on the Lions/Swans game, I would have put $100 on you tipped the Swans to cover.

    Your write-up is 95% in favor of the Swans covering, if not winning outright.

    Peter Everitt is also back for the Swannies and I look for them to continue their world-beating ways this week as well.  Recent form and history against the Lions only furthers this feeling.

    GL on which ever side you choose!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 12:35 AM ET #14

    Your right Headoverheart - Sydney has been a bogey team the Lions in recent history.
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    Your right Headoverheart - Sydney has been a bogey team the Lions in recent history.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 1:16 AM ET #15

    BTW, FYI, (haha), at 1st Quarter Time in the Dogs/Saints match, TAB was offering 11.00 for a WB win.

    WOWOWOWOW.

    I hope TAB got smashed by some alert punters!
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    BTW, FYI, (haha), at 1st Quarter Time in the Dogs/Saints match, TAB was offering 11.00 for a WB win.

    WOWOWOWOW.

    I hope TAB got smashed by some alert punters!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 1:46 AM ET #16

    Also, came across this interesting stat.

    Brisbane ranks dead last in marks inside the 50 in the League.  This after playing a rather tepid West Coast and Collingwood side.

    Sydney's defensive prowess will dominate any side who can't mark in the 50 well and should set up Sydney's offensive spark on the other end.

    Sorry to see you tozer on the other side, but I have to do it.

    It's official:

    Swans +5.5

    Let's get this done!

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    Also, came across this interesting stat.

    Brisbane ranks dead last in marks inside the 50 in the League.  This after playing a rather tepid West Coast and Collingwood side.

    Sydney's defensive prowess will dominate any side who can't mark in the 50 well and should set up Sydney's offensive spark on the other end.

    Sorry to see you tozer on the other side, but I have to do it.

    It's official:

    Swans +5.5

    Let's get this done!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 1:54 AM ET #17

    yeah maybe I am being a bit biased with the lions afterall. Too late, I'm sticking with them.
     
    GL all
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    yeah maybe I am being a bit biased with the lions afterall. Too late, I'm sticking with them.
     
    GL all
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 1:56 AM ET #18

    Craig Bolton usually does a good job on his old mate in J Brown. Merett will clean up Hall who - this from a Swans supporter.
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    Craig Bolton usually does a good job on his old mate in J Brown. Merett will clean up Hall who - this from a Swans supporter.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 3:44 AM ET #19

    Excellent we have mutual interest in tonights match Ecoute. GL, I hope the best team wins. Yep Bolton has done well on Brown in the past.
    The swans can have problems with their forward structure and goal scoring sometimes and I think it won't be easy for them to score freely tonight. Hall had a good week last week because wakelin (or a big defender) wasn't on him. I agree he'll have a tough night tonight.
    Drummond out is a huge loss for Brisbane, I hope the backline can fill the gap he has left. Last week when he went off injured is when the pies scored most of their goals.
    A good thing about swans matches (from a viewers perspective) is that they are nearly always close matches.
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    Excellent we have mutual interest in tonights match Ecoute. GL, I hope the best team wins. Yep Bolton has done well on Brown in the past.
    The swans can have problems with their forward structure and goal scoring sometimes and I think it won't be easy for them to score freely tonight. Hall had a good week last week because wakelin (or a big defender) wasn't on him. I agree he'll have a tough night tonight.
    Drummond out is a huge loss for Brisbane, I hope the backline can fill the gap he has left. Last week when he went off injured is when the pies scored most of their goals.
    A good thing about swans matches (from a viewers perspective) is that they are nearly always close matches.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 3:48 AM ET #20

    Head Over Heart, that is an interesting stat (with marks inside 50), I didn't know that, a bit surprising, considering the lions 3 big Bs (Brown, Brennan, Bardshaw)
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    Head Over Heart, that is an interesting stat (with marks inside 50), I didn't know that, a bit surprising, considering the lions 3 big Bs (Brown, Brennan, Bardshaw)
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 3:53 AM ET #21

    It'll be a great game mate. Pity there is no OU
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    It'll be a great game mate. Pity there is no OU
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 4:00 AM ET #22

    One more for tonight, I was going to stay away but...
     
    Bombers/Blues
    I'm going with preseason form with this match. Both teams were trying to field the best team when they met last time (as both had quite a bit to gain by winning) with the dons coming out a clear winner. Essendon have a great year to date and I can't turn down putting 1 unit on them against a blues side that is very poor defensively.
    Essendon -5.5
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    One more for tonight, I was going to stay away but...
     
    Bombers/Blues
    I'm going with preseason form with this match. Both teams were trying to field the best team when they met last time (as both had quite a bit to gain by winning) with the dons coming out a clear winner. Essendon have a great year to date and I can't turn down putting 1 unit on them against a blues side that is very poor defensively.
    Essendon -5.5
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 7:45 AM ET #23

    So far this year out of the 20 games 13 favourites have covered ATS=65%

    An interesting thing is that the Geelong line is moving toward Melbourne. Started at -74.5 now -71.5, going to wait to decide on that game.

    Adelaide/Port
    I really like Adelaide this year, they have some great onballers, enough to be able to push their greats, Goodwin, McLeod down forward while still having quality (Thompson, Van Berlo) in the midfield. Port will be a challenge for Adelaide but I think Port will struggle to win with how their full back line is set up at the moment.
    Adelaide -6.5

    Richmond/Collingwood
    Probably will leave this one.
    -19.5 is a lot for these 2.

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    So far this year out of the 20 games 13 favourites have covered ATS=65%

    An interesting thing is that the Geelong line is moving toward Melbourne. Started at -74.5 now -71.5, going to wait to decide on that game.

    Adelaide/Port
    I really like Adelaide this year, they have some great onballers, enough to be able to push their greats, Goodwin, McLeod down forward while still having quality (Thompson, Van Berlo) in the midfield. Port will be a challenge for Adelaide but I think Port will struggle to win with how their full back line is set up at the moment.
    Adelaide -6.5

    Richmond/Collingwood
    Probably will leave this one.
    -19.5 is a lot for these 2.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2008 - 7:59 AM ET #24

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    Sydney Swans =

    tozer, sorry to be on the wrong side of you on that game.  Marks were the difference mate.  116 to 78 in favor of the Swans.  They kept the Lions are arms length the whole match.

    Good hit on the Essendon game.  I wanted to take that as well, as only a 5.5 handy against a side that doesn't play defense is usually a gift, but laid off.  Well, sweet, at least someone cashed on it! 
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    Sydney Swans =

    tozer, sorry to be on the wrong side of you on that game.  Marks were the difference mate.  116 to 78 in favor of the Swans.  They kept the Lions are arms length the whole match.

    Good hit on the Essendon game.  I wanted to take that as well, as only a 5.5 handy against a side that doesn't play defense is usually a gift, but laid off.  Well, sweet, at least someone cashed on it! 
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