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    3rd Test: South Africa v Australia

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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:04 AM ET #1

    A heap of distractions for a well beaten and disjointed South African team in the lead up to the 3rd and final test.
     
     Naming 4 captains in one day.
     
    Australia want to win this home and away 4-2.
     
     
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    A heap of distractions for a well beaten and disjointed South African team in the lead up to the 3rd and final test.
     
     Naming 4 captains in one day.
     
    Australia want to win this home and away 4-2.
     
     
    Australia ml @ $2.80 (4)
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:09 AM ET #2

    Australia win the toss and elect to bat.
     
    I've taken Katich over Hughes H2h for some late night degenerate action on my end
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    Australia win the toss and elect to bat.
     
    I've taken Katich over Hughes H2h for some late night degenerate action on my end
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:15 AM ET #3

    Good batting pitch, SA win or draw for me. I'm having a degenerate stake on SA to have highest opening partnership @ $2. Aus openers have only outdone the SA openers once this series (out of 4), and that took a century from each in the first innings of the second test. Now that McKenzie is gone, and there may be a wicket or two in this morning session thanks to moisture, this appears to be a decent play. GL guys

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    Good batting pitch, SA win or draw for me. I'm having a degenerate stake on SA to have highest opening partnership @ $2. Aus openers have only outdone the SA openers once this series (out of 4), and that took a century from each in the first innings of the second test. Now that McKenzie is gone, and there may be a wicket or two in this morning session thanks to moisture, this appears to be a decent play. GL guys

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:21 AM ET #4

    What's up with the Tigers avatar Gun? Thought you were a Broncos man
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    What's up with the Tigers avatar Gun? Thought you were a Broncos man
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:27 AM ET #5

    I am a Broncos man, just put it up for the MNF and haven't changed it yet - still at work. 
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    I am a Broncos man, just put it up for the MNF and haven't changed it yet - still at work. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:29 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    I am a Broncos man, just put it up for the MNF and haven't changed it yet - still at work. 

    at what, 6:30 qld time?

     

    company man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    I am a Broncos man, just put it up for the MNF and haven't changed it yet - still at work. 

    at what, 6:30 qld time?

     

    company man

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:32 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Good batting pitch, SA win or draw for me. I'm having a degenerate stake on SA to have highest opening partnership @ $2. Aus openers have only outdone the SA openers once this series (out of 4), and that took a century from each in the first innings of the second test. Now that McKenzie is gone, and there may be a wicket or two in this morning session thanks to moisture, this appears to be a decent play. GL guys

    SA bowling has been putrid all series. Too short, too full - haven't been able to apply any pressure whatsoever. Australia's batting ability has never been the issue for mine - and Johnson, Siddle and Hilfenhaus have been working well. Even the plodder McDonald can keep it tight at one end.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Good batting pitch, SA win or draw for me. I'm having a degenerate stake on SA to have highest opening partnership @ $2. Aus openers have only outdone the SA openers once this series (out of 4), and that took a century from each in the first innings of the second test. Now that McKenzie is gone, and there may be a wicket or two in this morning session thanks to moisture, this appears to be a decent play. GL guys

    SA bowling has been putrid all series. Too short, too full - haven't been able to apply any pressure whatsoever. Australia's batting ability has never been the issue for mine - and Johnson, Siddle and Hilfenhaus have been working well. Even the plodder McDonald can keep it tight at one end.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:33 AM ET #8

    Nah mate, 7:30 NSW time, not a company man, hate this shit, just chose the wrong profession!
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    Nah mate, 7:30 NSW time, not a company man, hate this shit, just chose the wrong profession!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:39 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Nah mate, 7:30 NSW time, not a company man, hate this shit, just chose the wrong profession!

    You in NSW?

    I feel you. I'm 8:30-5 but never seems to finish that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Nah mate, 7:30 NSW time, not a company man, hate this shit, just chose the wrong profession!

    You in NSW?

    I feel you. I'm 8:30-5 but never seems to finish that way.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 5:11 AM ET #10

    Ouch:

    Ntini to Katich, no run, loud loud shout for Lbw but it's turned down. Kallis, at first slip, looks at Boucher to say whether we should go for a review but Boucher shrugs. It was full in length and straightened on the middle stump, Katich got the bat way outside the line and was hit in front of middle and off. IT would have crashed into off and middle! oh boy!

    First over. That one will come back to bite me no doubt.  Yeh, I live and work in Sydney Rod.  My contract says 8:30 - 5:30, but I don't think I have ever left before 8pm, midnight is the norm.

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    Ouch:

    Ntini to Katich, no run, loud loud shout for Lbw but it's turned down. Kallis, at first slip, looks at Boucher to say whether we should go for a review but Boucher shrugs. It was full in length and straightened on the middle stump, Katich got the bat way outside the line and was hit in front of middle and off. IT would have crashed into off and middle! oh boy!

    First over. That one will come back to bite me no doubt.  Yeh, I live and work in Sydney Rod.  My contract says 8:30 - 5:30, but I don't think I have ever left before 8pm, midnight is the norm.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 5:43 AM ET #11

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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 5:49 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Ouch:

    Ntini to Katich, no run, loud loud shout for Lbw but it's turned down. Kallis, at first slip, looks at Boucher to say whether we should go for a review but Boucher shrugs. It was full in length and straightened on the middle stump, Katich got the bat way outside the line and was hit in front of middle and off. IT would have crashed into off and middle! oh boy!

    First over. That one will come back to bite me no doubt.  Yeh, I live and work in Sydney Rod.  My contract says 8:30 - 5:30, but I don't think I have ever left before 8pm, midnight is the norm.

    Clearly. My name is Battler.

    You need some sleep.

    And a new career

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Ouch:

    Ntini to Katich, no run, loud loud shout for Lbw but it's turned down. Kallis, at first slip, looks at Boucher to say whether we should go for a review but Boucher shrugs. It was full in length and straightened on the middle stump, Katich got the bat way outside the line and was hit in front of middle and off. IT would have crashed into off and middle! oh boy!

    First over. That one will come back to bite me no doubt.  Yeh, I live and work in Sydney Rod.  My contract says 8:30 - 5:30, but I don't think I have ever left before 8pm, midnight is the norm.

    Clearly. My name is Battler.

    You need some sleep.

    And a new career

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 7:27 AM ET #13

    When they said the only way was down for Mike Hussey's test average, they weren't wrong !  

    Guy must be under a little pressure for his place in the lineup, or at the very least his place at number four

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    When they said the only way was down for Mike Hussey's test average, they weren't wrong !  

    Guy must be under a little pressure for his place in the lineup, or at the very least his place at number four

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 7:44 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    When they said the only way was down for Mike Hussey's test average, they weren't wrong !  

    Guy must be under a little pressure for his place in the lineup, or at the very least his place at number four

    I think he has hid behind his earlier feats all summer. Well, not him personally, but the selectors. Age shall weary and he seems to be picking the ball up late. I think it may be time to go, and I thought this during the Australian summer.

    BUT, the Australian team / selectors need to be really careful, as they have already blooded a heap of guys and they still need some old heads in the squad. Conversely, I guess you can argue that guys belting out quality numbers in the Sheffield Shield can more than hold their own in Test cricket and that you should pick guys on form.

    Either way, the ashes will be a career defining tour for M Hussey I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    When they said the only way was down for Mike Hussey's test average, they weren't wrong !  

    Guy must be under a little pressure for his place in the lineup, or at the very least his place at number four

    I think he has hid behind his earlier feats all summer. Well, not him personally, but the selectors. Age shall weary and he seems to be picking the ball up late. I think it may be time to go, and I thought this during the Australian summer.

    BUT, the Australian team / selectors need to be really careful, as they have already blooded a heap of guys and they still need some old heads in the squad. Conversely, I guess you can argue that guys belting out quality numbers in the Sheffield Shield can more than hold their own in Test cricket and that you should pick guys on form.

    Either way, the ashes will be a career defining tour for M Hussey I think.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 7:46 AM ET #15

    Brad Haddin has a massive role to play here. If these two can get to stumps (long way off I know) we'll be ok. Need to remember that we are minus a batsman this test.
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    Brad Haddin has a massive role to play here. If these two can get to stumps (long way off I know) we'll be ok. Need to remember that we are minus a batsman this test.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 7:48 AM ET #16

    I think Michael Clarke's spot has to be questioned as well. He has failed everytime the hammer has been down. Not what you need from a 'potential' captain.
     
    Ferguson anyone?
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    I think Michael Clarke's spot has to be questioned as well. He has failed everytime the hammer has been down. Not what you need from a 'potential' captain.
     
    Ferguson anyone?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 7:48 AM ET #17

    Fuck me we are struggling here,Haddin needs to pull out a Gilchrist type dig to rescue us
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    Fuck me we are struggling here,Haddin needs to pull out a Gilchrist type dig to rescue us
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 7:49 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Australia win the toss and elect to bat.
     
    I've taken Katich over Hughes H2h for some late night degenerate action on my end

    Cha ching

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Australia win the toss and elect to bat.
     
    I've taken Katich over Hughes H2h for some late night degenerate action on my end

    Cha ching

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 7:51 AM ET #19

    Callum Ferguson looks like a one day specialist to my eye Battler,i could see him getting carved up in the test arena against good quality bowling
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    Callum Ferguson looks like a one day specialist to my eye Battler,i could see him getting carved up in the test arena against good quality bowling
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 8:13 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Callum Ferguson looks like a one day specialist to my eye Battler,i could see him getting carved up in the test arena against good quality bowling

    Not so sure. I think he could be a good middle order test player.

    Certaintly a one-day goer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Callum Ferguson looks like a one day specialist to my eye Battler,i could see him getting carved up in the test arena against good quality bowling

    Not so sure. I think he could be a good middle order test player.

    Certaintly a one-day goer

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 8:26 AM ET #21

    I guess my point is this: Is Clarke and Hussey the best 4 and 5 Australia could put out there. Judging on recent results, one would have to say no. It's either been a big stand from an opener or a rear guard attack from the tail that has kept us afloat, and the 'rocks' of the middle order have gone largely unquestioned.
     
    I think you could pick any combination of the following and not lose too much:
     
    Michael Klinger, Chris Rogers, Dan Harris, Brad Hodge (I know they'll never pick Hodge, but you get my point).
     
     
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    I guess my point is this: Is Clarke and Hussey the best 4 and 5 Australia could put out there. Judging on recent results, one would have to say no. It's either been a big stand from an opener or a rear guard attack from the tail that has kept us afloat, and the 'rocks' of the middle order have gone largely unquestioned.
     
    I think you could pick any combination of the following and not lose too much:
     
    Michael Klinger, Chris Rogers, Dan Harris, Brad Hodge (I know they'll never pick Hodge, but you get my point).
     
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 8:29 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    I think Michael Clarke's spot has to be questioned as well. He has failed everytime the hammer has been down. Not what you need from a 'potential' captain.
     
    Ferguson anyone?

    Good eye AB, Clarke has been inconsistent for quite a while now, but the difference between he and say Hussey is that Clarke hasn't looked hopelessly look out of nick. It's been more of a concentration thing with him. I guess similar in a way to Ricky Ponting, who's also been very hit and miss for the past 12 months.

    But yeah, Clarke is at the point in his career now where he either knuckles down and becomes the 50+ average elite batsman many think he's capable of becoming, or he goes the way of Mark Waugh and joins the "unfulfilled talent" file.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    I think Michael Clarke's spot has to be questioned as well. He has failed everytime the hammer has been down. Not what you need from a 'potential' captain.
     
    Ferguson anyone?

    Good eye AB, Clarke has been inconsistent for quite a while now, but the difference between he and say Hussey is that Clarke hasn't looked hopelessly look out of nick. It's been more of a concentration thing with him. I guess similar in a way to Ricky Ponting, who's also been very hit and miss for the past 12 months.

    But yeah, Clarke is at the point in his career now where he either knuckles down and becomes the 50+ average elite batsman many think he's capable of becoming, or he goes the way of Mark Waugh and joins the "unfulfilled talent" file.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 8:34 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    I guess my point is this: Is Clarke and Hussey the best 4 and 5 Australia could put out there. Judging on recent results, one would have to say no. It's either been a big stand from an opener or a rear guard attack from the tail that has kept us afloat, and the 'rocks' of the middle order have gone largely unquestioned.
     
    I think you could pick any combination of the following and not lose too much:
     
    Michael Klinger, Chris Rogers, Dan Harris, Brad Hodge (I know they'll never pick Hodge, but you get my point).
     
     

    Scarey thing about Australian domestic cricket at the moment is the serious lack of "test match ready" batsmen there are among the state sides.

    Just watching a bit of that Shield final earlier in the week, none of those Victorian batsmen (Brad Hodge aside) look to have anything that closely resembles a technique that would hold up at test level. And by domestic standards, they're the benchmark at the moment  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    I guess my point is this: Is Clarke and Hussey the best 4 and 5 Australia could put out there. Judging on recent results, one would have to say no. It's either been a big stand from an opener or a rear guard attack from the tail that has kept us afloat, and the 'rocks' of the middle order have gone largely unquestioned.
     
    I think you could pick any combination of the following and not lose too much:
     
    Michael Klinger, Chris Rogers, Dan Harris, Brad Hodge (I know they'll never pick Hodge, but you get my point).
     
     

    Scarey thing about Australian domestic cricket at the moment is the serious lack of "test match ready" batsmen there are among the state sides.

    Just watching a bit of that Shield final earlier in the week, none of those Victorian batsmen (Brad Hodge aside) look to have anything that closely resembles a technique that would hold up at test level. And by domestic standards, they're the benchmark at the moment  

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 9:04 AM ET #24

    But throw them in test match cricket and they have to bloody learn it. Or they're out. Fuck it, if domestic players realistically thought they had a chance of usurping one of the set in selectors darlings spots - you never know.
     
    Symonds and Watson played test cricket for this fine nation.
     
    Look at North, Hughes and to a lesser extent Haddin. Hilfenhaus, Siddle, I could go on. Many would have said (and may still say) Siddle is a Shield bowler, not an international.....
     
    Throw them in and see how they go. I think it's time for mass upheaval in the Australian camp, I really do. And I'll go out on a limb as to say Ponting is the man to lead it. If he leads a bunch of rookies to win the ashes, all the naysayers will be hanging off his sack imo.
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    But throw them in test match cricket and they have to bloody learn it. Or they're out. Fuck it, if domestic players realistically thought they had a chance of usurping one of the set in selectors darlings spots - you never know.
     
    Symonds and Watson played test cricket for this fine nation.
     
    Look at North, Hughes and to a lesser extent Haddin. Hilfenhaus, Siddle, I could go on. Many would have said (and may still say) Siddle is a Shield bowler, not an international.....
     
    Throw them in and see how they go. I think it's time for mass upheaval in the Australian camp, I really do. And I'll go out on a limb as to say Ponting is the man to lead it. If he leads a bunch of rookies to win the ashes, all the naysayers will be hanging off his sack imo.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2009 - 4:25 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Good batting pitch, SA win or draw for me. I'm having a degenerate stake on SA to have highest opening partnership @ $2. Aus openers have only outdone the SA openers once this series (out of 4), and that took a century from each in the first innings of the second test. Now that McKenzie is gone, and there may be a wicket or two in this morning session thanks to moisture, this appears to be a decent play. GL guys

    Good start for the SA openers, only 2 runs needed for this to hit - even despite the terrible fielding from the saffers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun7:

    Good batting pitch, SA win or draw for me. I'm having a degenerate stake on SA to have highest opening partnership @ $2. Aus openers have only outdone the SA openers once this series (out of 4), and that took a century from each in the first innings of the second test. Now that McKenzie is gone, and there may be a wicket or two in this morning session thanks to moisture, this appears to be a decent play. GL guys

    Good start for the SA openers, only 2 runs needed for this to hit - even despite the terrible fielding from the saffers

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