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    2009 Cox Plate

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    Bolar
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 5:46 AM ET #1

    There are three strong horses in this group.

    El Segundo, Heart of Dreams and Whobegotyou

    No one else stands a chance.

    El Segundo E/W $15/$4.15

    You've got balls if you back against Whobe, but his last win wasn't convincing enough for me to back him despite him loving the valley.

    El Segundo is way over the odds. Mind you, I would be more confident if that dickhead Nolen wasn't on him.
     
    Top 6 - El Segundo @ $1.84
    Top 6 - Zipping @ $1.92

    I'd be surprised if El Segundo doesn't run top 5. And I think Zipping might be a chance to either win, or sneak into the placings.

    Mic Mac to place in the Schweppes @ $2.26

    Avenue to win race 3 - Best tote

    Miss Darcy E/W in the Cathay Pacific @ $7/$2.50
     
    Race 1 - Jills Angel to place @ $1.71
     
    Good luck
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    There are three strong horses in this group.

    El Segundo, Heart of Dreams and Whobegotyou

    No one else stands a chance.

    El Segundo E/W $15/$4.15

    You've got balls if you back against Whobe, but his last win wasn't convincing enough for me to back him despite him loving the valley.

    El Segundo is way over the odds. Mind you, I would be more confident if that dickhead Nolen wasn't on him.
     
    Top 6 - El Segundo @ $1.84
    Top 6 - Zipping @ $1.92

    I'd be surprised if El Segundo doesn't run top 5. And I think Zipping might be a chance to either win, or sneak into the placings.

    Mic Mac to place in the Schweppes @ $2.26

    Avenue to win race 3 - Best tote

    Miss Darcy E/W in the Cathay Pacific @ $7/$2.50
     
    Race 1 - Jills Angel to place @ $1.71
     
    Good luck
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 5:55 AM ET #2

    My man

    The Cox Plate is a race for the warhorses. History says El Segundo has every chance. Forgive his shitful last run, he copped a shoe in the eye

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    My man

    The Cox Plate is a race for the warhorses. History says El Segundo has every chance. Forgive his shitful last run, he copped a shoe in the eye

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 5:57 AM ET #3

    Although I do not agree with your 'no one else stands a chance' call.

    This is the Cox Plate mate, many horses don't handle the Valley. I could make an argument for 10 of the starters.

    As always, best of luck big fella

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    Although I do not agree with your 'no one else stands a chance' call.

    This is the Cox Plate mate, many horses don't handle the Valley. I could make an argument for 10 of the starters.

    As always, best of luck big fella

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 6:45 AM ET #4

    cheers, you too.

    zipping cant be underestimated. i think they are preparing him for this, then put him out to pasture

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    cheers, you too.

    zipping cant be underestimated. i think they are preparing him for this, then put him out to pasture

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 6:56 AM ET #5

    Zipping never ever wins fellas,never won a group one and i seriously doubt he starts now


    Zipping always runs on when its all over
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    Zipping never ever wins fellas,never won a group one and i seriously doubt he starts now


    Zipping always runs on when its all over
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 6:57 AM ET #6

    My bad,i see you backed it to finish in the top 6,GL
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    My bad,i see you backed it to finish in the top 6,GL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 7:12 AM ET #7

    he should finish top 6

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    he should finish top 6

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 8:31 AM ET #8

    Why is that we proceed to think that the best time to throw out a tip would be in the best weight for age race in Australisa...why not give us the Melb Cup winner as well because approx 50% of the horses that run each year in the Cup have never run over the distance, or seen the track....love your confidence, but simply hate these type of races as you loose more often than winning.

    In saying all of the above I do wish you all the best Bo

    It is my turn for our punter's club tomorrow so I'm hoping to find something at the moment but I have to wait until I purchase the bible aka Best Bets

    Looking at the moment to take an All Up with Avenue (to win) into Carrara (to place) into Apache Cat (to win)  

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    Why is that we proceed to think that the best time to throw out a tip would be in the best weight for age race in Australisa...why not give us the Melb Cup winner as well because approx 50% of the horses that run each year in the Cup have never run over the distance, or seen the track....love your confidence, but simply hate these type of races as you loose more often than winning.

    In saying all of the above I do wish you all the best Bo

    It is my turn for our punter's club tomorrow so I'm hoping to find something at the moment but I have to wait until I purchase the bible aka Best Bets

    Looking at the moment to take an All Up with Avenue (to win) into Carrara (to place) into Apache Cat (to win)  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2009 - 8:41 AM ET #9

    I have brilliant history in the Cox Plate. Particularly with Fields of Omagh - god bless that horse. I fucking love it.

    In anycase, you want a cup winner?

    Viewed. next Makybe Diva

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    I have brilliant history in the Cox Plate. Particularly with Fields of Omagh - god bless that horse. I fucking love it.

    In anycase, you want a cup winner?

    Viewed. next Makybe Diva

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 1:43 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    There are three strong horses in this group.

    El Segundo, Heart of Dreams and Whobegotyou

    No one else stands a chance.

    El Segundo E/W $15/$4.15

    You've got balls if you back against Whobe, but his last win wasn't convincing enough for me to back him despite him loving the valley.

    El Segundo is way over the odds. Mind you, I would be more confident if that dickhead Nolen wasn't on him.
     
    Top 6 - El Segundo @ $1.84
    Top 6 - Zipping @ $1.92


    I'd be surprised if El Segundo doesn't run top 5. And I think Zipping might be a chance to either win, or sneak into the placings.

    Mic Mac to place in the Schweppes @ $2.26

    Avenue to win race 3 - Best tote

    Miss Darcy E/W in the Cathay Pacific @ $7/$2.50
     
    Race 1 - Jills Angel to place @ $1.71
     
    Good luck

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ damn i knew zipping would do something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    There are three strong horses in this group.

    El Segundo, Heart of Dreams and Whobegotyou

    No one else stands a chance.

    El Segundo E/W $15/$4.15

    You've got balls if you back against Whobe, but his last win wasn't convincing enough for me to back him despite him loving the valley.

    El Segundo is way over the odds. Mind you, I would be more confident if that dickhead Nolen wasn't on him.
     
    Top 6 - El Segundo @ $1.84
    Top 6 - Zipping @ $1.92


    I'd be surprised if El Segundo doesn't run top 5. And I think Zipping might be a chance to either win, or sneak into the placings.

    Mic Mac to place in the Schweppes @ $2.26

    Avenue to win race 3 - Best tote

    Miss Darcy E/W in the Cathay Pacific @ $7/$2.50
     
    Race 1 - Jills Angel to place @ $1.71
     
    Good luck

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ damn i knew zipping would do something

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2009 - 3:22 AM ET #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    I have brilliant history in the Cox Plate. Particularly with Fields of Omagh - god bless that horse. I fucking love it.

    In anycase, you want a cup winner?

    Viewed. next Makybe Diva

    How about Northerly for the Cup...Can Bart win all 3 big ones I wonder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    I have brilliant history in the Cox Plate. Particularly with Fields of Omagh - god bless that horse. I fucking love it.

    In anycase, you want a cup winner?

    Viewed. next Makybe Diva

    How about Northerly for the Cup...Can Bart win all 3 big ones I wonder

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2009 - 11:44 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle1976:

    How about Northerly for the Cup...Can Bart win all 3 big ones I wonder

    haha

    Bart will win all 3. That's why Viewed is the bet. CC it was better this year than at that stage last year. All it needs to do is maintain it and it will win by at least 4 lengths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle1976:

    How about Northerly for the Cup...Can Bart win all 3 big ones I wonder

    haha

    Bart will win all 3. That's why Viewed is the bet. CC it was better this year than at that stage last year. All it needs to do is maintain it and it will win by at least 4 lengths.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2009 - 11:45 PM ET #15

    Well 3 lengths will sound reasonable.
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    Well 3 lengths will sound reasonable.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 11:53 AM ET #16

    Cummings best chance is Roman Emperor IMO,nicely weighted and a great run in the CC,Viewed was a nice win but got the gun run on the rails.


    Viewed absolutely fell into win the MC last year and now he's top weight,not sure he has improved that much.






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    Cummings best chance is Roman Emperor IMO,nicely weighted and a great run in the CC,Viewed was a nice win but got the gun run on the rails.


    Viewed absolutely fell into win the MC last year and now he's top weight,not sure he has improved that much.






     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2009 - 8:08 PM ET #17

    Didn't Efficient give Viewed a cold last time they met at the same weight? I'm sure he did.
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    Didn't Efficient give Viewed a cold last time they met at the same weight? I'm sure he did.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2009 - 2:54 AM ET #18

    For me gentleman my money will be on Alcopop for a place at $2.30 as a minimum.  This is usually the hardest race of the year if you follow horses on a regular basis and that's why bookies love this time of the year.  Do youself a favour after the race and add up all the money invested in the pools (Unitab, Super Tab & NSW Tab) and you will be staggered how much is bet per person here Down Under, and that doesn't take into account other money bet on internet accounts and local bookies etc etc

    It's always a tough race to pick, so I'll stay with the above place bet for me

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    For me gentleman my money will be on Alcopop for a place at $2.30 as a minimum.  This is usually the hardest race of the year if you follow horses on a regular basis and that's why bookies love this time of the year.  Do youself a favour after the race and add up all the money invested in the pools (Unitab, Super Tab & NSW Tab) and you will be staggered how much is bet per person here Down Under, and that doesn't take into account other money bet on internet accounts and local bookies etc etc

    It's always a tough race to pick, so I'll stay with the above place bet for me

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2009 - 1:58 AM ET #19

    I never knew Alcopop was racing. Fuck viewed, Alcopop is the way to go for a place definately.

    I told everyone to back it for the Balaklava Cup and people made lots of money from it thanks to me. I like that horse.

     

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    I never knew Alcopop was racing. Fuck viewed, Alcopop is the way to go for a place definately.

    I told everyone to back it for the Balaklava Cup and people made lots of money from it thanks to me. I like that horse.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2009 - 11:36 AM ET #20

    I like Alcopop too fellas,,
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    I like Alcopop too fellas,,
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    I like Alcopop too fellas,,

    Warning after I have more detail regarding Alcopop, don't back him as there are too many factor's to go against him.  Travelling in the heat over the Melb in a float, over 3 and a bit weeks since a run, not experienced enough just like the trainer.  This reminds me of a similar horse that I know alot about in 'On a Jeune' who the connections learnt alot about the experience to which they made adjustments the following year and ran second to Makybe Diva (2006).

    Just my thoughts and experience, GL to those having a bet but I'll have a couple of bucks E/W on the bottom weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    I like Alcopop too fellas,,

    Warning after I have more detail regarding Alcopop, don't back him as there are too many factor's to go against him.  Travelling in the heat over the Melb in a float, over 3 and a bit weeks since a run, not experienced enough just like the trainer.  This reminds me of a similar horse that I know alot about in 'On a Jeune' who the connections learnt alot about the experience to which they made adjustments the following year and ran second to Makybe Diva (2006).

    Just my thoughts and experience, GL to those having a bet but I'll have a couple of bucks E/W on the bottom weight

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