lol@most of the posts in here are from people in Canada to damn funny cause no one in USA gives a crap about hockey and 90 percent of the NHL teams are in the USA and even teams in theSouth where College Football is king and people wonder why all the franchises in the south and west are losing money.Bettman is a idiot plain and simple and FEHR will bust the owners u can believe that
lol@most of the posts in here are from people in Canada to damn funny cause no one in USA gives a crap about hockey and 90 percent of the NHL teams are in the USA and even teams in theSouth where College Football is king and people wonder why all the franchises in the south and west are losing money.Bettman is a idiot plain and simple and FEHR will bust the owners u can believe that
Take my word for it the NHL season will be cancelled. When the players hired Don Fehr they sealed their fate. The owners will never give in to the strong arm tactics of Fehr. I love hockey so this really hurts but the players better wake up and take what they can get or they all can go to Russia and play for an average salary of 50K.
Take my word for it the NHL season will be cancelled. When the players hired Don Fehr they sealed their fate. The owners will never give in to the strong arm tactics of Fehr. I love hockey so this really hurts but the players better wake up and take what they can get or they all can go to Russia and play for an average salary of 50K.
Take my word for it the NHL season will be cancelled. When the players hired Don Fehr they sealed their fate. The owners will never give in to the strong arm tactics of Fehr. I love hockey so this really hurts but the players better wake up and take what they can get or they all can go to Russia and play for an average salary of 50K.
Take my word for it the NHL season will be cancelled. When the players hired Don Fehr they sealed their fate. The owners will never give in to the strong arm tactics of Fehr. I love hockey so this really hurts but the players better wake up and take what they can get or they all can go to Russia and play for an average salary of 50K.
Take my word for it the NHL season will be cancelled. When the players hired Don Fehr they sealed their fate. The owners will never give in to the strong arm tactics of Fehr. I love hockey so this really hurts but the players better wake up and take what they can get or they all can go to Russia and play for an average salary of 50K.
Its the Owners who need to wake up they have let Bettman ruin this sport,when the players hired Fehr they sealed bettmans fate i predict theres no way Bettman survives what havic Fehr is bringing
Take my word for it the NHL season will be cancelled. When the players hired Don Fehr they sealed their fate. The owners will never give in to the strong arm tactics of Fehr. I love hockey so this really hurts but the players better wake up and take what they can get or they all can go to Russia and play for an average salary of 50K.
Its the Owners who need to wake up they have let Bettman ruin this sport,when the players hired Fehr they sealed bettmans fate i predict theres no way Bettman survives what havic Fehr is bringing
Its the Owners who need to wake up they have let Bettman ruin this sport,when the players hired Fehr they sealed bettmans fate i predict theres no way Bettman survives what havic Fehr is bringing
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
Its the Owners who need to wake up they have let Bettman ruin this sport,when the players hired Fehr they sealed bettmans fate i predict theres no way Bettman survives what havic Fehr is bringing
Union offered 50/50 split of hockey related revenue and $393 million in deferred payments.NHL offered $211 million in a season where a full 82 games are played.
Management wants a 7 year deal,which the union says is too long because fewer than half the current players would be active by it's expiration.
Union offered 50/50 split of hockey related revenue and $393 million in deferred payments.NHL offered $211 million in a season where a full 82 games are played.
Management wants a 7 year deal,which the union says is too long because fewer than half the current players would be active by it's expiration.
I was wondering why they just did not bring in replacement players like they did in the last baseball and football work stoppages. That seems to settle the problem pretty quickly when these players thought someone else would be taking over their job.
I was wondering why they just did not bring in replacement players like they did in the last baseball and football work stoppages. That seems to settle the problem pretty quickly when these players thought someone else would be taking over their job.
The season will end in two more weeks. The owners will give the union a final offer and if it is rejected the owners will cancel the season. Some of the owners make money by NOT playing so they have no reason to give in. Sure the owners of the Rangers, Maple Leafs and Montreal want to settle this but about 10 owners in the league will never give the players what they want. So all you Canadians can have a good cry now and hope there is a season next year. I'll be crying with you because my NY Rangers won't be able to win the cup this year!!!
The season will end in two more weeks. The owners will give the union a final offer and if it is rejected the owners will cancel the season. Some of the owners make money by NOT playing so they have no reason to give in. Sure the owners of the Rangers, Maple Leafs and Montreal want to settle this but about 10 owners in the league will never give the players what they want. So all you Canadians can have a good cry now and hope there is a season next year. I'll be crying with you because my NY Rangers won't be able to win the cup this year!!!
hockey for most of the united states is like soccer, people just aren't that interested in it, sure it's fun to watch a game live, but trying to get people to watch on tv no thanks, it really wouldn't suprise me if the nhl just went away for good just like the north american soccer league back in the day, the mls which will go away eventually, the wnba which will go away and arena football which will be gone soon, nfl nba and mlb are the only 3 sports that will make it in the long run
hockey for most of the united states is like soccer, people just aren't that interested in it, sure it's fun to watch a game live, but trying to get people to watch on tv no thanks, it really wouldn't suprise me if the nhl just went away for good just like the north american soccer league back in the day, the mls which will go away eventually, the wnba which will go away and arena football which will be gone soon, nfl nba and mlb are the only 3 sports that will make it in the long run
The NHL might fall with the cancelation of this season. Maybe not right away, of course. 5 years down the road, I don't see those teams I listed above sticking around. The2004-2005 lockout destroyed the Dallas Stats. They went from selling out year after year to 5,000 people a game. They want the other way of the Blackhawks.
A 12 team super league with 8 teams in Canada and teams in NYC, Boston, Detroit and Philadelphia would be fantastic. That becomes a greater possibility if this season is lost!
Still far away but it becomes possible.
Hell, Research in Motion is coming on a bit, again. If the blackberry 10 makes a splash and saves the company. The could take over apples dominance.
Balsillie would have his opening to start a new league. Even without the name brands if he could pull a WHA and attract a star,
Let's say Connor McDavid in 3 years! The kid just signed a 15 million deal with reebok. These young kids are more prominent than ever and they have a choice whether to stick with the NHL union or not!
Flutie, I'm good with all the above but why did you leave out the great old franchise of the Chicago Blackhawks and all their great fans? The number would have to be 16 teams, 8 in Canada and 8 in the States. What do you think of this?
Toronto New York Hamilton Boston Montreal Detroit Quebec Philadelphia Winnipeg Washington Calgary Chicago Edmonton St. Louis Vancouver Los Angeles
Kings and Blues fans have supported their teams very well since 1967 and at times through some lean years. The Kings would also swallow up the new California hockey fans born out of the Ducks and Sharks. The Capitals fans for a number of years supported one of the most horrific hockey teams the NHL has ever seen, and continue to keep that building pretty full despite numerous playoff failures.
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
The NHL might fall with the cancelation of this season. Maybe not right away, of course. 5 years down the road, I don't see those teams I listed above sticking around. The2004-2005 lockout destroyed the Dallas Stats. They went from selling out year after year to 5,000 people a game. They want the other way of the Blackhawks.
A 12 team super league with 8 teams in Canada and teams in NYC, Boston, Detroit and Philadelphia would be fantastic. That becomes a greater possibility if this season is lost!
Still far away but it becomes possible.
Hell, Research in Motion is coming on a bit, again. If the blackberry 10 makes a splash and saves the company. The could take over apples dominance.
Balsillie would have his opening to start a new league. Even without the name brands if he could pull a WHA and attract a star,
Let's say Connor McDavid in 3 years! The kid just signed a 15 million deal with reebok. These young kids are more prominent than ever and they have a choice whether to stick with the NHL union or not!
Flutie, I'm good with all the above but why did you leave out the great old franchise of the Chicago Blackhawks and all their great fans? The number would have to be 16 teams, 8 in Canada and 8 in the States. What do you think of this?
Toronto New York Hamilton Boston Montreal Detroit Quebec Philadelphia Winnipeg Washington Calgary Chicago Edmonton St. Louis Vancouver Los Angeles
Kings and Blues fans have supported their teams very well since 1967 and at times through some lean years. The Kings would also swallow up the new California hockey fans born out of the Ducks and Sharks. The Capitals fans for a number of years supported one of the most horrific hockey teams the NHL has ever seen, and continue to keep that building pretty full despite numerous playoff failures.
I know. Chicago should be included as an original six but that is not a hockey town!
Hockey is such a niche sport there.
The team that I omitted, Minnesota!
They should get a crack from the start!
Chicago has shown support for the wolves. Maybe I'm wrong there and it had a lot more to do with past ownership! So I'm just thinking aloud here. I don't proofread ( thanks, Iproducts ) and I just spit out ideas!
God knows Bettman is going to need a ton of creative ideas if he wants his NHL to remain viable long term with this mess!
16 teams would work great although I would omit blues, lowest ticket prices in the NHL! They are losing a ton of money despite selling out!
Washington is a Redskins town! Without revenue sharing, hockey can not work there!
I know. Chicago should be included as an original six but that is not a hockey town!
Hockey is such a niche sport there.
The team that I omitted, Minnesota!
They should get a crack from the start!
Chicago has shown support for the wolves. Maybe I'm wrong there and it had a lot more to do with past ownership! So I'm just thinking aloud here. I don't proofread ( thanks, Iproducts ) and I just spit out ideas!
God knows Bettman is going to need a ton of creative ideas if he wants his NHL to remain viable long term with this mess!
16 teams would work great although I would omit blues, lowest ticket prices in the NHL! They are losing a ton of money despite selling out!
Washington is a Redskins town! Without revenue sharing, hockey can not work there!
Maybe it's not as big as it is over there in BC where you are but it could also be because we have...the Cubs, White Soxs and Bears. Hockey is everything to the people of Canada. Hockey however in the states is not. But to say that Chicago is not a hockey town is ignorant
Maybe it's not as big as it is over there in BC where you are but it could also be because we have...the Cubs, White Soxs and Bears. Hockey is everything to the people of Canada. Hockey however in the states is not. But to say that Chicago is not a hockey town is ignorant
i agree they need like 16 teams max way too many in nhl, teams like panthers blue jackets, coyotes stars can all just go away, BUT, how do u do the rosters, the big teams will want to keep their stars how do u move stars like steven stamkos and what team would he play on
i agree they need like 16 teams max way too many in nhl, teams like panthers blue jackets, coyotes stars can all just go away, BUT, how do u do the rosters, the big teams will want to keep their stars how do u move stars like steven stamkos and what team would he play on
Pour teams in to Canada and go north to Alaska & Yukon east to Halifax Charlottetown Red deer out west Sask Victoria Moose jaw then have CBC involved again as well as CTV & TSN SP NET NBC for the remainder of American teams Quebec City gets a team too. We don't need ESPN then REGINA another team
PS we could see the Expos comeback in MLB up here in Canada Too
Pour teams in to Canada and go north to Alaska & Yukon east to Halifax Charlottetown Red deer out west Sask Victoria Moose jaw then have CBC involved again as well as CTV & TSN SP NET NBC for the remainder of American teams Quebec City gets a team too. We don't need ESPN then REGINA another team
PS we could see the Expos comeback in MLB up here in Canada Too
What the f*ck are you shitheads blabbering about? Jesus Christ!!! A small rollback on players salaries (5-10%) and a small increase in revenue sharing will solve everything.
What the f*ck are you shitheads blabbering about? Jesus Christ!!! A small rollback on players salaries (5-10%) and a small increase in revenue sharing will solve everything.
It wasn't greed - it was this cancerous item called a union.
YOU need to watch the Canadian movie "Net Worth" about how players were consistantly FUCKED by owners like the Norris brothers and Conn Smythe.
anyone who blames unions for everything is a FOOL
Cant blame unions for everything, but they certainly have lost their "true intended purpose". Keeping the worker from getting screwed and helping them keep their job is one thing, but constantly complaining and going on strike and hamstringing your employer is another....
It wasn't greed - it was this cancerous item called a union.
YOU need to watch the Canadian movie "Net Worth" about how players were consistantly FUCKED by owners like the Norris brothers and Conn Smythe.
anyone who blames unions for everything is a FOOL
Cant blame unions for everything, but they certainly have lost their "true intended purpose". Keeping the worker from getting screwed and helping them keep their job is one thing, but constantly complaining and going on strike and hamstringing your employer is another....
Flutie, I'm good with all the above but why did you leave out the great old franchise of the Chicago Blackhawks and all their great fans? The number would have to be 16 teams, 8 in Canada and 8 in the States. What do you think of this?
Toronto New York Hamilton Boston Montreal Detroit Quebec Philadelphia Winnipeg Washington <<< Calgary Chicago Edmonton St. Louis <<< Vancouver Los Angeles
NO Ottawa in Canada? that would make 9 Canadian cities
I would replace your Capitals selection with San Jose. Hosershark fans have supported their team since the entered the league. always sell out and it's "the loudest building in the league". the statement that "The Capitals fans for a number of years supported one of the most horrific hockey teams the NHL has ever seen" is false. Washington was a VERY weak money losing franchise for years.
Pittsburgh also has strong support for the Penguins. sell out every game @ CEC a AND their fans "travel". a Penguins @ Panthers game has more fans from Pittsburgh than Florida. used to be the same in Washington "before Ovechkin". more Penguins fans at games than local Capital fans. they would do better than the Blues.
I could actually see more of a 22 team "9 and 13" split with the 8 Canadian cities mentioned plus Ottawa and the 8 Americans WITH San Jose,Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Buffalo, who, like Detroit, get a lot of "cross border" fans, and (suprise) Tampa. the Lightning actually draw pretty well considering they are in a "southern city" non-traditional market.
you get right down to it and the only real "trouble" teams in the league right now are the Coyotes in Phoenix, Panthers in Miami-Ft Lauderdale, the Bluejackets in Columbus, the Islanders on Long Island and the Stars in Dallas. the others usually at least broke even under the last contract. THAT can be correct by moving some to better markets like Hamilton, Quebec City, Seattle (?), 2nd teams in the Toronto and Montreal markets (?) or even Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (?) which is a smaller city but VERY wealthy. think Green Bay Packers in the NFL. I remember that Saskatoon almost grabbed the Blues in 1987 when they were having financial problems.
Flutie, I'm good with all the above but why did you leave out the great old franchise of the Chicago Blackhawks and all their great fans? The number would have to be 16 teams, 8 in Canada and 8 in the States. What do you think of this?
Toronto New York Hamilton Boston Montreal Detroit Quebec Philadelphia Winnipeg Washington <<< Calgary Chicago Edmonton St. Louis <<< Vancouver Los Angeles
NO Ottawa in Canada? that would make 9 Canadian cities
I would replace your Capitals selection with San Jose. Hosershark fans have supported their team since the entered the league. always sell out and it's "the loudest building in the league". the statement that "The Capitals fans for a number of years supported one of the most horrific hockey teams the NHL has ever seen" is false. Washington was a VERY weak money losing franchise for years.
Pittsburgh also has strong support for the Penguins. sell out every game @ CEC a AND their fans "travel". a Penguins @ Panthers game has more fans from Pittsburgh than Florida. used to be the same in Washington "before Ovechkin". more Penguins fans at games than local Capital fans. they would do better than the Blues.
I could actually see more of a 22 team "9 and 13" split with the 8 Canadian cities mentioned plus Ottawa and the 8 Americans WITH San Jose,Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Buffalo, who, like Detroit, get a lot of "cross border" fans, and (suprise) Tampa. the Lightning actually draw pretty well considering they are in a "southern city" non-traditional market.
you get right down to it and the only real "trouble" teams in the league right now are the Coyotes in Phoenix, Panthers in Miami-Ft Lauderdale, the Bluejackets in Columbus, the Islanders on Long Island and the Stars in Dallas. the others usually at least broke even under the last contract. THAT can be correct by moving some to better markets like Hamilton, Quebec City, Seattle (?), 2nd teams in the Toronto and Montreal markets (?) or even Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (?) which is a smaller city but VERY wealthy. think Green Bay Packers in the NFL. I remember that Saskatoon almost grabbed the Blues in 1987 when they were having financial problems.
You guys don't consider Denver a solid market?? I don't see how everyone thinks more teams up north is the answer, there is only so much sportsnet broadcasts revenue to go around and if/when the Canadian dollar losses ground to the US greenback things could easy go bad again for Canadian teams minus the Habs and Leafs of coarse.
You guys don't consider Denver a solid market?? I don't see how everyone thinks more teams up north is the answer, there is only so much sportsnet broadcasts revenue to go around and if/when the Canadian dollar losses ground to the US greenback things could easy go bad again for Canadian teams minus the Habs and Leafs of coarse.
maybe vince mcmahon will start up the xhl where it's 4 on 4 hockey with mandatory fighting and bigger goals to promote scoring and bikini babes acting as referees
maybe vince mcmahon will start up the xhl where it's 4 on 4 hockey with mandatory fighting and bigger goals to promote scoring and bikini babes acting as referees
New commissioner RinkRat will striaghten things out
nah, wouldn't work
I'm too pro worker. in fact I would make it SO good for the players they would not NEED a union. I would use the Green Bay model and have the community own the teams. no more greedy, grabby owners looking to make a buck at any price. revenue sharing to support smaller market team within reason BUT NOT letting the likes of a Phoenix or Florida "free ride". for teams like that it's "move or die". would definately concentrate more on Canada and the Northern US where the FANS ARE. AND I would definately NOT have any shyster New York lawyers on my staff
New commissioner RinkRat will striaghten things out
nah, wouldn't work
I'm too pro worker. in fact I would make it SO good for the players they would not NEED a union. I would use the Green Bay model and have the community own the teams. no more greedy, grabby owners looking to make a buck at any price. revenue sharing to support smaller market team within reason BUT NOT letting the likes of a Phoenix or Florida "free ride". for teams like that it's "move or die". would definately concentrate more on Canada and the Northern US where the FANS ARE. AND I would definately NOT have any shyster New York lawyers on my staff
Flutie, I'm good with all the above but why did you leave out the great old franchise of the Chicago Blackhawks and all their great fans? The number would have to be 16 teams, 8 in Canada and 8 in the States. What do you think of this?
Toronto New York Hamilton Boston Montreal Detroit Quebec Philadelphia Winnipeg Washington <<< Calgary Chicago Edmonton St. Louis <<< Vancouver Los Angeles
NO Ottawa in Canada? that would make 9 Canadian cities
I would replace your Capitals selection with San Jose. Hosershark fans have supported their team since the entered the league. always sell out and it's "the loudest building in the league". the statement that "The Capitals fans for a number of years supported one of the most horrific hockey teams the NHL has ever seen" is false. Washington was a VERY weak money losing franchise for years.
Pittsburgh also has strong support for the Penguins. sell out every game @ CEC a AND their fans "travel". a Penguins @ Panthers game has more fans from Pittsburgh than Florida. used to be the same in Washington "before Ovechkin". more Penguins fans at games than local Capital fans. they would do better than the Blues.
I could actually see more of a 22 team "9 and 13" split with the 8 Canadian cities mentioned plus Ottawa and the 8 Americans WITH San Jose,Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Buffalo, who, like Detroit, get a lot of "cross border" fans, and (suprise) Tampa. the Lightning actually draw pretty well considering they are in a "southern city" non-traditional market.
you get right down to it and the only real "trouble" teams in the league right now are the Coyotes in Phoenix, Panthers in Miami-Ft Lauderdale, the Bluejackets in Columbus, the Islanders on Long Island and the Stars in Dallas. the others usually at least broke even under the last contract. THAT can be correct by moving some to better markets like Hamilton, Quebec City, Seattle (?), 2nd teams in the Toronto and Montreal markets (?) or even Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (?) which is a smaller city but VERY wealthy. think Green Bay Packers in the NFL. I remember that Saskatoon almost grabbed the Blues in 1987 when they were having financial problems.
Actually....Tampa Bay is where many thousand Canadians go after they retire, that is one reason why the hockey market is strong there.
Finally, someone has mentioned Saskatoon....I'm not sure why this city does not have a hockey team..the one pro sports team that they do have in Saskatchewan (if you want to call it that), gets huge support...the Rider fans are everywhere and will travel anywhere. I'm sure they would fill the rink every game....yet, not even on the radar.
Flutie, I'm good with all the above but why did you leave out the great old franchise of the Chicago Blackhawks and all their great fans? The number would have to be 16 teams, 8 in Canada and 8 in the States. What do you think of this?
Toronto New York Hamilton Boston Montreal Detroit Quebec Philadelphia Winnipeg Washington <<< Calgary Chicago Edmonton St. Louis <<< Vancouver Los Angeles
NO Ottawa in Canada? that would make 9 Canadian cities
I would replace your Capitals selection with San Jose. Hosershark fans have supported their team since the entered the league. always sell out and it's "the loudest building in the league". the statement that "The Capitals fans for a number of years supported one of the most horrific hockey teams the NHL has ever seen" is false. Washington was a VERY weak money losing franchise for years.
Pittsburgh also has strong support for the Penguins. sell out every game @ CEC a AND their fans "travel". a Penguins @ Panthers game has more fans from Pittsburgh than Florida. used to be the same in Washington "before Ovechkin". more Penguins fans at games than local Capital fans. they would do better than the Blues.
I could actually see more of a 22 team "9 and 13" split with the 8 Canadian cities mentioned plus Ottawa and the 8 Americans WITH San Jose,Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Buffalo, who, like Detroit, get a lot of "cross border" fans, and (suprise) Tampa. the Lightning actually draw pretty well considering they are in a "southern city" non-traditional market.
you get right down to it and the only real "trouble" teams in the league right now are the Coyotes in Phoenix, Panthers in Miami-Ft Lauderdale, the Bluejackets in Columbus, the Islanders on Long Island and the Stars in Dallas. the others usually at least broke even under the last contract. THAT can be correct by moving some to better markets like Hamilton, Quebec City, Seattle (?), 2nd teams in the Toronto and Montreal markets (?) or even Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (?) which is a smaller city but VERY wealthy. think Green Bay Packers in the NFL. I remember that Saskatoon almost grabbed the Blues in 1987 when they were having financial problems.
Actually....Tampa Bay is where many thousand Canadians go after they retire, that is one reason why the hockey market is strong there.
Finally, someone has mentioned Saskatoon....I'm not sure why this city does not have a hockey team..the one pro sports team that they do have in Saskatchewan (if you want to call it that), gets huge support...the Rider fans are everywhere and will travel anywhere. I'm sure they would fill the rink every game....yet, not even on the radar.
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