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    Why did Miami go from -3 to -1?

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    zooker32
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 11:23 PM ET #1

    That is a shitload of money on Houston.  Someone knows something.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    That is a shitload of money on Houston.  Someone knows something.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 11:25 PM ET #2

    ten went from -3 to -1
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    ten went from -3 to -1
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 11:27 PM ET #3

    Houston is the play
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    Houston is the play
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 11:34 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:

    ten went from -3 to -1

     

    bc you'd have to be an idiot to have picked TEN...i first saw that line alst monday and was like WTF?! Quite possibily the easiest bet i've made this entire nfl season.

    But anyway, i like miami in this game.  LAst two games are at home, and they are def. in the playoff hunt (as is Houston but miami has a way better shot, and i think the players know if they can get a little hlp here and there, then they cansneak into the playoffs.

    My take is Miami -1

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:

    ten went from -3 to -1

     

    bc you'd have to be an idiot to have picked TEN...i first saw that line alst monday and was like WTF?! Quite possibily the easiest bet i've made this entire nfl season.

    But anyway, i like miami in this game.  LAst two games are at home, and they are def. in the playoff hunt (as is Houston but miami has a way better shot, and i think the players know if they can get a little hlp here and there, then they cansneak into the playoffs.

    My take is Miami -1

    GL

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 11:41 PM ET #5

    Sharps on Houston.
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    Sharps on Houston.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 11:57 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by ThorsHammer:

    Sharps on Houston.


    For it to move off the 3, everyone is on the Texans.

    Personally, I don't see why you'd trust a franchise like the Texans. Every time--I mean, I every time they have a chance to do something meaningful as a franchise--they take a dump on themselves.

    Should be a nail-bitter, could go either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorsHammer:

    Sharps on Houston.


    For it to move off the 3, everyone is on the Texans.

    Personally, I don't see why you'd trust a franchise like the Texans. Every time--I mean, I every time they have a chance to do something meaningful as a franchise--they take a dump on themselves.

    Should be a nail-bitter, could go either way.
     
    B_A_R_N_E_Y
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 12:24 AM ET #7

    Top 4 have TEXANS in Hilton Pickem Contest
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    Top 4 have TEXANS in Hilton Pickem Contest
     
    Doxshund
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 12:35 AM ET #8

    Fine with me, I like Miami
    Texans can't run the ball with Slaton gone they are averaging 69 rushing yards a game.
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    Fine with me, I like Miami
    Texans can't run the ball with Slaton gone they are averaging 69 rushing yards a game.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 12:39 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by zooker32:

    That is a shitload of money on Houston.  Someone knows something.

    And it is not me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooker32:

    That is a shitload of money on Houston.  Someone knows something.

    And it is not me!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 12:39 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by ThorsHammer:

    Sharps on Houston.
    Why do you think just because the line dropped, that the Sharps have the Texans?  Why does that matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorsHammer:

    Sharps on Houston.
    Why do you think just because the line dropped, that the Sharps have the Texans?  Why does that matter?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 1:22 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:



    For it to move off the 3, everyone is on the Texans.

    Personally, I don't see why you'd trust a franchise like the Texans. Every time--I mean, I every time they have a chance to do something meaningful as a franchise--they take a dump on themselves.

    Should be a nail-bitter, could go either way.







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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:



    For it to move off the 3, everyone is on the Texans.

    Personally, I don't see why you'd trust a franchise like the Texans. Every time--I mean, I every time they have a chance to do something meaningful as a franchise--they take a dump on themselves.

    Should be a nail-bitter, could go either way.







     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 2:52 AM ET #12

    Andre Johnson can beat Miami by himself.  I liked the Dolphins too but Houston has beaten them just about everytime they have played each other.  I went against the trend stats against SD on Friday and got burned...not doing it here, taking Houston to the bank...

    Good luck guys
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    Andre Johnson can beat Miami by himself.  I liked the Dolphins too but Houston has beaten them just about everytime they have played each other.  I went against the trend stats against SD on Friday and got burned...not doing it here, taking Houston to the bank...

    Good luck guys
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 2:59 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliCash:

    Andre Johnson can beat Miami by himself.  I liked the Dolphins too but Houston has beaten them just about everytime they have played each other.  I went against the trend stats against SD on Friday and got burned...not doing it here, taking Houston to the bank...

    Good luck guys


    Come on, bring something better than this.

    The Dolphins have been steady mobbin' at home this season.  They've lost twice--to the Colts and Saints, giving each team a huge scare.  Seriously, they've been lethal at home against teams that don't roll in undefeated. 

    The Texans are seriously depleted in terms of fire power, a lot more than the average joe thinks.  They've gone under in 6 of their last 7 games, mainly because their offense isn't the juggernaut it was earlier this year, with injuries starting to catch up.

    On top of this, the Texans haven't played a team with a pulse the last two weeks. Anytime they've played a team with a running game that has any sort of pulse, they've gotten rolled.  Take advantage of a line swing for once, instead of being on the other side of a line moving against you.

    Dolphins -1
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliCash:

    Andre Johnson can beat Miami by himself.  I liked the Dolphins too but Houston has beaten them just about everytime they have played each other.  I went against the trend stats against SD on Friday and got burned...not doing it here, taking Houston to the bank...

    Good luck guys


    Come on, bring something better than this.

    The Dolphins have been steady mobbin' at home this season.  They've lost twice--to the Colts and Saints, giving each team a huge scare.  Seriously, they've been lethal at home against teams that don't roll in undefeated. 

    The Texans are seriously depleted in terms of fire power, a lot more than the average joe thinks.  They've gone under in 6 of their last 7 games, mainly because their offense isn't the juggernaut it was earlier this year, with injuries starting to catch up.

    On top of this, the Texans haven't played a team with a pulse the last two weeks. Anytime they've played a team with a running game that has any sort of pulse, they've gotten rolled.  Take advantage of a line swing for once, instead of being on the other side of a line moving against you.

    Dolphins -1
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 3:04 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:



    Come on, bring something better than this.

    The Dolphins have been steady mobbin' at home this season.  They've lost twice--to the Colts and Saints, giving each team a huge scare.  Seriously, they've been lethal at home against teams that don't roll in undefeated. 

    The Texans are seriously depleted in terms of fire power, a lot more than the average joe thinks.  They've gone under in 6 of their last 7 games, mainly because their offense isn't the juggernaut it was earlier this year, with injuries starting to catch up.

    On top of this, the Texans haven't played a team with a pulse the last two weeks. Anytime they've played a team with a running game that has any sort of pulse, they've gotten rolled.  Take advantage of a line swing for once, instead of being on the other side of a line moving against you.

    Dolphins -1
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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:



    Come on, bring something better than this.

    The Dolphins have been steady mobbin' at home this season.  They've lost twice--to the Colts and Saints, giving each team a huge scare.  Seriously, they've been lethal at home against teams that don't roll in undefeated. 

    The Texans are seriously depleted in terms of fire power, a lot more than the average joe thinks.  They've gone under in 6 of their last 7 games, mainly because their offense isn't the juggernaut it was earlier this year, with injuries starting to catch up.

    On top of this, the Texans haven't played a team with a pulse the last two weeks. Anytime they've played a team with a running game that has any sort of pulse, they've gotten rolled.  Take advantage of a line swing for once, instead of being on the other side of a line moving against you.

    Dolphins -1
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 3:13 AM ET #15

    Though neither of them are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, two teams hanging on by a thread meet in South Florida as the Houston Texans visit the Miami Dolphins.

    Not many expected the Dolphins to follow up last year's 11-5 season and AFC East division win with a back to back championship but as a team, Miami definitely did. It's year two of the Bill Parcells era in Miami and we can see just a huge difference from where this team was two years ago. Though this season more than likely won't end up with a Super Bowl win, there is a lot of hope that there could be a Lombardi Trophy in Miami's future. The reality of it is, the Dolphins were hit extremely hard by the injury bug this year and playing the first place schedule didn't help matters any. It seems like the Dolphins have suffered season ending injuries on nearly a weekly basis yet the team still plays hard and is competitive every week. Last week's loss to Tennessee was crippling and very disappointing as Miami got the game to overtime but then turned the ball over and allowed the Titans to get the game winning field goal. Miami's biggest problem is that they have given up more big plays than nearly any other team in the NFL. Miami is 25th in big plays allowed and those big plays will probably mean the difference between them participating in the post season and them watching the playoffs from home.

    Hopes were high in Houston this season for the Texans to make their first playoff appearance in team history but it doesn't look like it will come to pass. The Texans have been banged up but that really hasn't been the issue, the Texans simply haven't converted on opportunities and at times their defense has just let them down. Houston has won two straight but both of those games were against lesser teams, Seattle and St. Louis. It was really the four game losing streak that preceded those wins that will prove to be the Texans undoing. The Texans are a team that appears to be headed in the right direction but it looks like they will have to wait at least another year to make the franchises first playoff appearance.

    Miami has covered in four of their last five games overall and seven of their last eight against AFC teams. Houston is 6-1 against the spread in their last seven as a road underdog and just 1-4 against the spread in their last five games overall.

    This is going to be a good game but Miami's suffocating style and pound the ball offense with Ricky Williams should key Houston off the field as Parcells and Sporano should be able to exploit Houston's defensive deficiencies. This could easily be a playoff match up next season.

    Pick: Miami Dolphins -3

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    Though neither of them are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, two teams hanging on by a thread meet in South Florida as the Houston Texans visit the Miami Dolphins.

    Not many expected the Dolphins to follow up last year's 11-5 season and AFC East division win with a back to back championship but as a team, Miami definitely did. It's year two of the Bill Parcells era in Miami and we can see just a huge difference from where this team was two years ago. Though this season more than likely won't end up with a Super Bowl win, there is a lot of hope that there could be a Lombardi Trophy in Miami's future. The reality of it is, the Dolphins were hit extremely hard by the injury bug this year and playing the first place schedule didn't help matters any. It seems like the Dolphins have suffered season ending injuries on nearly a weekly basis yet the team still plays hard and is competitive every week. Last week's loss to Tennessee was crippling and very disappointing as Miami got the game to overtime but then turned the ball over and allowed the Titans to get the game winning field goal. Miami's biggest problem is that they have given up more big plays than nearly any other team in the NFL. Miami is 25th in big plays allowed and those big plays will probably mean the difference between them participating in the post season and them watching the playoffs from home.

    Hopes were high in Houston this season for the Texans to make their first playoff appearance in team history but it doesn't look like it will come to pass. The Texans have been banged up but that really hasn't been the issue, the Texans simply haven't converted on opportunities and at times their defense has just let them down. Houston has won two straight but both of those games were against lesser teams, Seattle and St. Louis. It was really the four game losing streak that preceded those wins that will prove to be the Texans undoing. The Texans are a team that appears to be headed in the right direction but it looks like they will have to wait at least another year to make the franchises first playoff appearance.

    Miami has covered in four of their last five games overall and seven of their last eight against AFC teams. Houston is 6-1 against the spread in their last seven as a road underdog and just 1-4 against the spread in their last five games overall.

    This is going to be a good game but Miami's suffocating style and pound the ball offense with Ricky Williams should key Houston off the field as Parcells and Sporano should be able to exploit Houston's defensive deficiencies. This could easily be a playoff match up next season.

    Pick: Miami Dolphins -3

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 3:23 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:



    Come on, bring something better than this.

    The Dolphins have been steady mobbin' at home this season.  They've lost twice--to the Colts and Saints, giving each team a huge scare.  Seriously, they've been lethal at home against teams that don't roll in undefeated. 

    The Texans are seriously depleted in terms of fire power, a lot more than the average joe thinks.  They've gone under in 6 of their last 7 games, mainly because their offense isn't the juggernaut it was earlier this year, with injuries starting to catch up.

    On top of this, the Texans haven't played a team with a pulse the last two weeks. Anytime they've played a team with a running game that has any sort of pulse, they've gotten rolled.  Take advantage of a line swing for once, instead of being on the other side of a line moving against you.

    Dolphins -1


    Well I said I liked the Dolphins at first.  I love running teams against weak running defenses.  The Dolphins are just a better version of Jacksonville, and the Jags seem to have no problem beating Houston.  Even though Miami has a great pass rush, their secondary is suspect and I see Andre Johnson running wild on these guys.  2 TDs for 'Dre, and the rest of the Texans add in 13 more points.  Miami never gives up so they will keep it close, but in the end they don't have enough firepower...

    27-24 Houston wins.

    And oh yeah, Houston is 4-0 in the last 4 vs Miami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:



    Come on, bring something better than this.

    The Dolphins have been steady mobbin' at home this season.  They've lost twice--to the Colts and Saints, giving each team a huge scare.  Seriously, they've been lethal at home against teams that don't roll in undefeated. 

    The Texans are seriously depleted in terms of fire power, a lot more than the average joe thinks.  They've gone under in 6 of their last 7 games, mainly because their offense isn't the juggernaut it was earlier this year, with injuries starting to catch up.

    On top of this, the Texans haven't played a team with a pulse the last two weeks. Anytime they've played a team with a running game that has any sort of pulse, they've gotten rolled.  Take advantage of a line swing for once, instead of being on the other side of a line moving against you.

    Dolphins -1


    Well I said I liked the Dolphins at first.  I love running teams against weak running defenses.  The Dolphins are just a better version of Jacksonville, and the Jags seem to have no problem beating Houston.  Even though Miami has a great pass rush, their secondary is suspect and I see Andre Johnson running wild on these guys.  2 TDs for 'Dre, and the rest of the Texans add in 13 more points.  Miami never gives up so they will keep it close, but in the end they don't have enough firepower...

    27-24 Houston wins.

    And oh yeah, Houston is 4-0 in the last 4 vs Miami.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 1:52 PM ET #17

    now we know why it went from 3 to 1 
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    now we know why it went from 3 to 1 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 2:18 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by stickman80733:

    now we know why it went from 3 to 1 
    And why do we all know why it went from 3-1? Giants went from -7 to -9, explain that one to us too. Atlanta went from -7 to -8.5, so what. Line movement has nothing to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickman80733:

    now we know why it went from 3 to 1 
    And why do we all know why it went from 3-1? Giants went from -7 to -9, explain that one to us too. Atlanta went from -7 to -8.5, so what. Line movement has nothing to do with it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 2:36 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by stickman80733:

    now we know why it went from 3 to 1 



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    Quote Originally Posted by stickman80733:

    now we know why it went from 3 to 1 



     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 2:37 PM ET #20

    it is very clear now.........wow
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    it is very clear now.........wow
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 6:43 PM ET #21

    & now we know   why Jets wnt to - 3

     where is the guy how says line moves are meaningless ????????????????????????????
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    & now we know   why Jets wnt to - 3

     where is the guy how says line moves are meaningless ????????????????????????????
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 11:20 PM ET #22

    they are meaningless, line movements go both directions. some go right way some go wrong way.
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    they are meaningless, line movements go both directions. some go right way some go wrong way.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 11:26 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by stickman80733:

    & now we know   why Jets wnt to - 3

     where is the guy how says line moves are meaningless ????????????????????????????
    I am right here, explain why the Falcons went from -9 to -7.5 and explain how the Giants went from -7 to -10. Falcons blew the out, and the Giants got blown-out. According to the so called line-movement, it should have gone the OTHER way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickman80733:

    & now we know   why Jets wnt to - 3

     where is the guy how says line moves are meaningless ????????????????????????????
    I am right here, explain why the Falcons went from -9 to -7.5 and explain how the Giants went from -7 to -10. Falcons blew the out, and the Giants got blown-out. According to the so called line-movement, it should have gone the OTHER way.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 11:28 PM ET #24

     The Jets were never at -3, where are you getting that from?
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     The Jets were never at -3, where are you getting that from?
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurduePride2206:

     

    bc you'd have to be an idiot to have picked TEN...i first saw that line alst monday and was like WTF?! Quite possibily the easiest bet i've made this entire nfl season.

    But anyway, i like miami in this game.  LAst two games are at home, and they are def. in the playoff hunt (as is Houston but miami has a way better shot, and i think the players know if they can get a little hlp here and there, then they cansneak into the playoffs.

    My take is Miami -1

    GL



    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurduePride2206:

     

    bc you'd have to be an idiot to have picked TEN...i first saw that line alst monday and was like WTF?! Quite possibily the easiest bet i've made this entire nfl season.

    But anyway, i like miami in this game.  LAst two games are at home, and they are def. in the playoff hunt (as is Houston but miami has a way better shot, and i think the players know if they can get a little hlp here and there, then they cansneak into the playoffs.

    My take is Miami -1

    GL



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