The squares get raped again with no Vaseline during prime time.
Interesting to see how he adjusts to a head coach role going forward. Good info though.
Interesting to see how he adjusts to a head coach role going forward. Good info though.
Interesting comments in this thread. Some comments from a Chargers fan...
1. Everett was gassed on that interception. You could see him waiving to the sidelines to get him off the field, but the offense was in no huddle mode and he had to stay in. Not sure if that was a designed played, but Everett looked like he gave up on that play. I trust that's not part of his game, as he isn't known for that. He was cooked. If I had to lay the blame on anyone, it might actually be Herbert; although I can't say I know for certain whether he knew Everett wanted out. The television only showed Everett looking off the sideline. Maybe Staley should've recognized it. Either way, bad communication.
2. Nobody should be questioning Herbert's game. Dude played with either a broken rib cage or, as Dr. Chao suspects, a rib cartilage injury. If it's a rib cartilage injury, he'll be limited in practice and should be available for Week 3. (The extra 3 days of rest helps.) I hope it's just that.
3. Staley isn't the issue. You can question some of his decisions to go for it on 4th down last year, but only the failed conversions made the buzz. By the end of the season, the Chargers had the most successful 4th down conversions. Per the LA Times (because, I don't know have these numbers stored in my head), "the 22 conversions helped extend drives that produced 11 touchdowns and three field goals for 86 points. After the 12 failed attempts, the opposition scored six times — five field goals and one touchdown for 22 points." If you do the math, these decisions helped the Chargers more than they hurt them.
4. The main problem is Lombardi's playcalling on offense. That was an issue dating back to last year, and I'd imagine the only reason why he's still on the team is because of the importance in maintaining stability for Herbert. He had three head coaches and had to learn three offenses in his four years at Oregon. Herbert can often times overcome the lack of innovation there, but in games like this he's not going to overcome it.
5. The real issue with the Chargers loss tonight is the departure of Corey Linsley and Trey Pipkens. Linsley is the obvious blow. He's an all-pro Center. While far from being a blue chip player, after spending his off-season working out with known offensive lineman guru Duke Mayweather, he's shown some improvement at RT. What compounds this issue is that the Chargers depth at offensive line is scary. (Why they never re-signed Scott Quessenberry, I don't know.) The Chargers offense wasn't the same after those two left, and you could tell by how often the defense was able to get to Herbert.
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The tl;dr version: You guys were mostly wrong.
Interesting comments in this thread. Some comments from a Chargers fan...
1. Everett was gassed on that interception. You could see him waiving to the sidelines to get him off the field, but the offense was in no huddle mode and he had to stay in. Not sure if that was a designed played, but Everett looked like he gave up on that play. I trust that's not part of his game, as he isn't known for that. He was cooked. If I had to lay the blame on anyone, it might actually be Herbert; although I can't say I know for certain whether he knew Everett wanted out. The television only showed Everett looking off the sideline. Maybe Staley should've recognized it. Either way, bad communication.
2. Nobody should be questioning Herbert's game. Dude played with either a broken rib cage or, as Dr. Chao suspects, a rib cartilage injury. If it's a rib cartilage injury, he'll be limited in practice and should be available for Week 3. (The extra 3 days of rest helps.) I hope it's just that.
3. Staley isn't the issue. You can question some of his decisions to go for it on 4th down last year, but only the failed conversions made the buzz. By the end of the season, the Chargers had the most successful 4th down conversions. Per the LA Times (because, I don't know have these numbers stored in my head), "the 22 conversions helped extend drives that produced 11 touchdowns and three field goals for 86 points. After the 12 failed attempts, the opposition scored six times — five field goals and one touchdown for 22 points." If you do the math, these decisions helped the Chargers more than they hurt them.
4. The main problem is Lombardi's playcalling on offense. That was an issue dating back to last year, and I'd imagine the only reason why he's still on the team is because of the importance in maintaining stability for Herbert. He had three head coaches and had to learn three offenses in his four years at Oregon. Herbert can often times overcome the lack of innovation there, but in games like this he's not going to overcome it.
5. The real issue with the Chargers loss tonight is the departure of Corey Linsley and Trey Pipkens. Linsley is the obvious blow. He's an all-pro Center. While far from being a blue chip player, after spending his off-season working out with known offensive lineman guru Duke Mayweather, he's shown some improvement at RT. What compounds this issue is that the Chargers depth at offensive line is scary. (Why they never re-signed Scott Quessenberry, I don't know.) The Chargers offense wasn't the same after those two left, and you could tell by how often the defense was able to get to Herbert.
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The tl;dr version: You guys were mostly wrong.
@ThirdEye4747
Bad coaching decision. Your down two scores and the go for it on 4th with an injured QB risking a season ending injury….bad bad clashing
@ThirdEye4747
Bad coaching decision. Your down two scores and the go for it on 4th with an injured QB risking a season ending injury….bad bad clashing
[Quote: Originally Posted by iConsciousness]Interesting comments in this thread. Some comments from a Chargers fan... 1. Everett was gassed on that interception. You could see him waiving to the sidelines to get him off the field, but the offense was in no huddle mode and he had to stay in. Not sure if that was a designed played, but Everett looked like he gave up on that play. I trust that's not part of his game, as he isn't known for that. He was cooked. If I had to lay the blame on anyone, it might actually be Herbert; although I can't say I know for certain whether he knew Everett wanted out. The television only showed Everett looking off the sideline. Maybe Staley should've recognized it. Either way, bad communication.]
That pick-6 was definitely bad bad bad communication. Someone, anyone, between Herbert and Staley, or Lombardi (or anyone else) up in the box.....should have said something to Herbert in the headset, about Everett basically walking around. The guy looked like he was gonna throw up after the INT. The DB was shaded to outside, so at peak of option route....dig inward.....ball is right there.......touchdown.....easy. But he gave up on the route and just drifted to the right and didn't even have his head turned around, easy route jump by the lucky DB. Worse case scenario that pass is incomplete. Terrible communication. I can see wanting to get on the ball, Chiefs were tired, they were at the end of a multiple play drive.....8 play 57 yard 5 minutes....which actually brings up a conditioning question, because from almost 10 minutes left in the 3rd, the Chargers ran 6 plays, two 3 and outs, so it isn't as if Everett was coming off back to back 10 play 8 minute drives. IDK.....someone should've seen it, IDK what the rules are for how long they can talk in the headset, but Everett didn't even make an attempt to chase the DB, he basically sat at the goal line and his mouthpiece fell out of his mouth and he did nothing. Brutal play sequence for a Chargers fan or backer.
[Quote: Originally Posted by iConsciousness]Interesting comments in this thread. Some comments from a Chargers fan... 1. Everett was gassed on that interception. You could see him waiving to the sidelines to get him off the field, but the offense was in no huddle mode and he had to stay in. Not sure if that was a designed played, but Everett looked like he gave up on that play. I trust that's not part of his game, as he isn't known for that. He was cooked. If I had to lay the blame on anyone, it might actually be Herbert; although I can't say I know for certain whether he knew Everett wanted out. The television only showed Everett looking off the sideline. Maybe Staley should've recognized it. Either way, bad communication.]
That pick-6 was definitely bad bad bad communication. Someone, anyone, between Herbert and Staley, or Lombardi (or anyone else) up in the box.....should have said something to Herbert in the headset, about Everett basically walking around. The guy looked like he was gonna throw up after the INT. The DB was shaded to outside, so at peak of option route....dig inward.....ball is right there.......touchdown.....easy. But he gave up on the route and just drifted to the right and didn't even have his head turned around, easy route jump by the lucky DB. Worse case scenario that pass is incomplete. Terrible communication. I can see wanting to get on the ball, Chiefs were tired, they were at the end of a multiple play drive.....8 play 57 yard 5 minutes....which actually brings up a conditioning question, because from almost 10 minutes left in the 3rd, the Chargers ran 6 plays, two 3 and outs, so it isn't as if Everett was coming off back to back 10 play 8 minute drives. IDK.....someone should've seen it, IDK what the rules are for how long they can talk in the headset, but Everett didn't even make an attempt to chase the DB, he basically sat at the goal line and his mouthpiece fell out of his mouth and he did nothing. Brutal play sequence for a Chargers fan or backer.
MLB on the other hand killed a bunch of games that only appeared on some Apple channel or whatever they did. I'll never pay for the MLB package again, leaning towards pirating the channel. The MLB website made you click through to the other channel and then sign up for that channel's subscription. This was BS. I paid for the MLB season, I understand blackout for local games, OK. But don't screw me out of a bunch of other games. I Paid for the season I want the whole season.
From now of MLB for me is going to be for free.
MLB on the other hand killed a bunch of games that only appeared on some Apple channel or whatever they did. I'll never pay for the MLB package again, leaning towards pirating the channel. The MLB website made you click through to the other channel and then sign up for that channel's subscription. This was BS. I paid for the MLB season, I understand blackout for local games, OK. But don't screw me out of a bunch of other games. I Paid for the season I want the whole season.
From now of MLB for me is going to be for free.
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