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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 6:14 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Theasscritic:

    @vanzack colts  broncos  saints  3 of your 4 bets last week lost the first half ats but they went 3 and 0 ats in the second half  just wondering from your experience with your plays how does this play out from previous history for you  first half ats loss but 2nd half ats cover ??

    I dont measure that.  Not part of my process.

    Sports gambling is a giant pizza with a million slices.  Become an absolute expert in one or two slices.  Notice how I ask seemingly square questions all the time here about teaser prices, how certain parlays work etc?  It is because I am singularly focused on my 2 slices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theasscritic:

    @vanzack colts  broncos  saints  3 of your 4 bets last week lost the first half ats but they went 3 and 0 ats in the second half  just wondering from your experience with your plays how does this play out from previous history for you  first half ats loss but 2nd half ats cover ??

    I dont measure that.  Not part of my process.

    Sports gambling is a giant pizza with a million slices.  Become an absolute expert in one or two slices.  Notice how I ask seemingly square questions all the time here about teaser prices, how certain parlays work etc?  It is because I am singularly focused on my 2 slices.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 6:22 PM ET #27

    Thanks for all you do bro

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    Thanks for all you do bro

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 6:23 PM ET #28

    Thank you for sharing brother peace_5

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    Thank you for sharing brother peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 6:28 PM ET #29

    @vanzack

     So your not familiar with the results of your bets in the case of your pick losing ats in the first half 

    No idea if u take them in the second half ats line ….is it a money maker ???? 

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     So your not familiar with the results of your bets in the case of your pick losing ats in the first half 

    No idea if u take them in the second half ats line ….is it a money maker ???? 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 6:29 PM ET #30

    Nice work VAN peace_5peaceclover

    Learn, be content and stay disciplined.
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    Nice work VAN peace_5peaceclover

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 6:36 PM ET #31

    You don’t make a lot of wagers ,  smart man 

     

    good luck 

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    You don’t make a lot of wagers ,  smart man 

     

    good luck 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 6:57 PM ET #32

    Pizza and handjobs everywhere and in the same thread ....doesnt get better than this folks  peace_5

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    Pizza and handjobs everywhere and in the same thread ....doesnt get better than this folks  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:01 PM ET #33

    Lowest under in 30 years .. damn I’m am taking it .. not too mention it’s a great bet historically 

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    Lowest under in 30 years .. damn I’m am taking it .. not too mention it’s a great bet historically 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:05 PM ET #34

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    knish wisdom,,,we share a lot in common peace_5 clover peace

     

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    knish wisdom,,,we share a lot in common peace_5 clover peace

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:10 PM ET #35

    Dam, nothing for me to steal your pick and take as my own.

     

    Still the boss

     

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    Dam, nothing for me to steal your pick and take as my own.

     

    Still the boss

     

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:18 PM ET #36

    Tough contest this year Van sad alot of competition at the top with all the favorites cashing in, chalk it up to good ol' variance and a dip in football quality.  It's good that you have a process to combat this peace_5

    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Tough contest this year Van sad alot of competition at the top with all the favorites cashing in, chalk it up to good ol' variance and a dip in football quality.  It's good that you have a process to combat this peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:29 PM ET #37

    Thank you for the information, Vanzack.

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    Thank you for the information, Vanzack.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:31 PM ET #38

    peace_5

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:51 PM ET #39

    Every game has the same odds. You’re no better positioned to win a Sunday game over tonight’s game. I’m sure your leans on past primetime games won and you felt regret after.

    Either way you will suffer from the pain of regret or discipline.

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    Every game has the same odds. You’re no better positioned to win a Sunday game over tonight’s game. I’m sure your leans on past primetime games won and you felt regret after.

    Either way you will suffer from the pain of regret or discipline.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:54 PM ET #40

    Thanks Van for posting your process. an_cheers

     

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    Thanks Van for posting your process. an_cheers

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:54 PM ET #41

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 7:57 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    @vanzack knish wisdom,,,we share a lot in common

    Thanks for sharing that.  Great clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    @vanzack knish wisdom,,,we share a lot in common

    Thanks for sharing that.  Great clip.

    an_cheers

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    Every game has the same odds. You’re no better positioned to win a Sunday game over tonight’s game. I’m sure your leans on past primetime games won and you felt regret after. Either way you will suffer from the pain of regret or discipline.

    This is just patently false.

    Every game does not have the same odds of winning.  Absolute BS.  Every game might have the same odds of the betting public to win or lose - but every game has different odds for each individual bettor to win or lose.  Your process might shine light on a winner tonight - while my flashlight doesnt shine that kind of light.  But I need to know when my flashlight is working and when it isnt.

    I am better positioned to win a Sunday game that I will bet than tonight - because I have no edge tonight - and I will have an edge on Sunday.  For you  - might be the opposite - but for you to say that they are all the same is just amateur BS.

    And I dont suffer the pain of regret - ever.  I just dont.  Thats honest.  I guess it helps when you dont look at this on an individual game basis.  I look at long stretches of games or seasons.  One game?  Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    Every game has the same odds. You’re no better positioned to win a Sunday game over tonight’s game. I’m sure your leans on past primetime games won and you felt regret after. Either way you will suffer from the pain of regret or discipline.

    This is just patently false.

    Every game does not have the same odds of winning.  Absolute BS.  Every game might have the same odds of the betting public to win or lose - but every game has different odds for each individual bettor to win or lose.  Your process might shine light on a winner tonight - while my flashlight doesnt shine that kind of light.  But I need to know when my flashlight is working and when it isnt.

    I am better positioned to win a Sunday game that I will bet than tonight - because I have no edge tonight - and I will have an edge on Sunday.  For you  - might be the opposite - but for you to say that they are all the same is just amateur BS.

    And I dont suffer the pain of regret - ever.  I just dont.  Thats honest.  I guess it helps when you dont look at this on an individual game basis.  I look at long stretches of games or seasons.  One game?  Never.

    peace_5

     
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    Thanks all for the nice comments.

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    Thanks all for the nice comments.

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     A man may have so much data that he actually is creating false equations that cancel out profitable data, be  careful not to loose your senses

     

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     A man may have so much data that he actually is creating false equations that cancel out profitable data, be  careful not to loose your senses

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotxh3:

    @vanzack  A man may have so much data that he actually is creating false equations that cancel out profitable data, be  careful not to loose your senses

    You have just stated why I value the traction report so much.

    It is designed to target exactly what you are describing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotxh3:

    @vanzack  A man may have so much data that he actually is creating false equations that cancel out profitable data, be  careful not to loose your senses

    You have just stated why I value the traction report so much.

    It is designed to target exactly what you are describing.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2023 - 8:07 PM ET #47

    an_light Keep knocking 'em dead.

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    an_light Keep knocking 'em dead.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by Theasscritic:  Already placed wagers have nothing to do with any decision to make an ingame wager. 
    This tip is golden. 

    I kind of say it another way but I think it means the same thing.  Every in game wager has to be looked at solely as its own new individual bet and on it's own current merits.  NOTHING to do with previous wagers, they don't even exist.  Only after it passes this same test that every wager must pass, do other previous wagers get taken into account for me, mainly uncomfortable overexposure.

    It took me forever to accept this, I tried to destroy more middles than Rocky Balboa.   I still fight the urge for that 2 for 1 winner rush without doing my due diligence. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by Theasscritic:  Already placed wagers have nothing to do with any decision to make an ingame wager. 
    This tip is golden. 

    I kind of say it another way but I think it means the same thing.  Every in game wager has to be looked at solely as its own new individual bet and on it's own current merits.  NOTHING to do with previous wagers, they don't even exist.  Only after it passes this same test that every wager must pass, do other previous wagers get taken into account for me, mainly uncomfortable overexposure.

    It took me forever to accept this, I tried to destroy more middles than Rocky Balboa.   I still fight the urge for that 2 for 1 winner rush without doing my due diligence. 

     
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     Yes sir

    just wondering from his experience within his bets

    how his bets fair in a second half bet off a first half ats loss 

    His plays went 3 and 0 in this scenario last week 

    wondering if he keeps a record of this sort of thing 

     

     

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     Yes sir

    just wondering from his experience within his bets

    how his bets fair in a second half bet off a first half ats loss 

    His plays went 3 and 0 in this scenario last week 

    wondering if he keeps a record of this sort of thing 

     

     

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