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    So all of you know who truly watch football for over the years, the probability of seeing a certain act happen in a football game. Like a blocked FG. It happens, but doesn't happen much at all. 

    It was either last week or two weeks ago, there was at least 4 if not 5 blocked FG's in the week of games. Coincidence??? I don't think so

    Now fast forward to yesterday what was yesterday now??? Oh the Backup QB day. White for the Jets just happens to beat the Bengals. Trevor (FUCKING) Semien beats Tom Brady and the Bucs????? And to cap it off on national TV, Cooper Rush starts for the Cowboys, and guess what he goes into Minnesota and beats the Vikings???? Really??? So yesterday it was 3 I'll type it again 3 Backup no name QB's beat three very good teams. Coincidence right????? Come on man 

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    So all of you know who truly watch football for over the years, the probability of seeing a certain act happen in a football game. Like a blocked FG. It happens, but doesn't happen much at all. 

    It was either last week or two weeks ago, there was at least 4 if not 5 blocked FG's in the week of games. Coincidence??? I don't think so

    Now fast forward to yesterday what was yesterday now??? Oh the Backup QB day. White for the Jets just happens to beat the Bengals. Trevor (FUCKING) Semien beats Tom Brady and the Bucs????? And to cap it off on national TV, Cooper Rush starts for the Cowboys, and guess what he goes into Minnesota and beats the Vikings???? Really??? So yesterday it was 3 I'll type it again 3 Backup no name QB's beat three very good teams. Coincidence right????? Come on man 

     
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    One very interesting thing i noticed about the saints bucs was that as soon as siemen entered the game peyton immediately had him throwing 10-20+ yard throws. Very rarely in a situation do you see the starting qb go out and the backup who hasnt played all season comes in and immediately begins slinging it down the field.

    Yeah that qb for jets  throwing for 400+ his first career start and Corey Davis was out was the real brain buster. 

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    One very interesting thing i noticed about the saints bucs was that as soon as siemen entered the game peyton immediately had him throwing 10-20+ yard throws. Very rarely in a situation do you see the starting qb go out and the backup who hasnt played all season comes in and immediately begins slinging it down the field.

    Yeah that qb for jets  throwing for 400+ his first career start and Corey Davis was out was the real brain buster. 

     
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    Hate to say it but.........Anybody can win on any given Sunday!an_popcornan_speakan_nailbiter

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    Hate to say it but.........Anybody can win on any given Sunday!an_popcornan_speakan_nailbiter

     
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    Hate to say it but.........Anybody can win on any given Sunday!an_popcornan_speakan_nailbiter

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    Hate to say it but.........Anybody can win on any given Sunday!an_popcornan_speakan_nailbiter

     
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                  You ever think that with these backup qbs teams don't know how to game plan for them? Not like they have much if any tape on them, have never seen them before, and these cats are getting their one shot, so they are fresh and playing at their best....hell, I'd rather have Cooper Rush starting than Kirk Cousins

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                  You ever think that with these backup qbs teams don't know how to game plan for them? Not like they have much if any tape on them, have never seen them before, and these cats are getting their one shot, so they are fresh and playing at their best....hell, I'd rather have Cooper Rush starting than Kirk Cousins

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonavol:

    You ever think that with these backup qbs teams don't know how to game plan for them? Not like they have much if any tape on them, have never seen them before, and these cats are getting their one shot, so they are fresh and playing at their best....hell, I'd rather have Cooper Rush starting than Kirk Cousins

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonavol:

    You ever think that with these backup qbs teams don't know how to game plan for them? Not like they have much if any tape on them, have never seen them before, and these cats are getting their one shot, so they are fresh and playing at their best....hell, I'd rather have Cooper Rush starting than Kirk Cousins

     

    Great point!! cool

     
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    Cooper Rush knows the offense pretty well and seemed to use Wilson, the WR he's most familiar with, as a security blanket early on. As far as blocked kicks, they happen. Kicking has sucked in the last few years. Kickers are missing more in general.

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    Cooper Rush knows the offense pretty well and seemed to use Wilson, the WR he's most familiar with, as a security blanket early on. As far as blocked kicks, they happen. Kicking has sucked in the last few years. Kickers are missing more in general.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2021 - 12:00 PM ET #9

    About 5 nfl games are rigged every Sunday to keep vegas in business.

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    About 5 nfl games are rigged every Sunday to keep vegas in business.

     
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    So what are you suggesting? It's not a coincidence? It was...scripted???

    The script for yesterday was... let a bunch of backups win? The week prior the script was to block a few field goals?

    Do you have any evidence it's not a coincidence? Any evidence at all?

    Do you know what Confirmation Bias is?

    Do you know what an Argument from Incredulity is?

    Do you realize how difficult it would be to script games, on the level that you are suggesting?

    Who's in on this rigging? The head coaches? The assistant coaches? The coaches on all of the teams or just a few of them? The NFL owners? All of the owners or just a few of them? The players themselves? All of the players or just a few of them? Are ALL of the referees in on the scripts or just a few of them? What about the employees in the NFL office? Are they aware of the rigging? If so, are all of these employees aware of this or just a few?

    Are all of the games rigged or just a few of them? Who decides which team will win?

    Why? WHEN is this decision made? The night before? The week before? A few hours before?

    Are the sportsbooks in Vegas in on it? If so, are all of them aware of it or just a few? (Note that most sportsbooks operate independently from one another.)

    How long has this rigging been going on? Five years? Ten years? Twenty?

    How come no one has ever come forward with any actual EVIDENCE for this rigging you speak of? Text messages, audio recordings, e-mail messages, letters...

    How come no one has won a Pulitzer Prize with evidence for this mass conspiracy you claim?

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    So what are you suggesting? It's not a coincidence? It was...scripted???

    The script for yesterday was... let a bunch of backups win? The week prior the script was to block a few field goals?

    Do you have any evidence it's not a coincidence? Any evidence at all?

    Do you know what Confirmation Bias is?

    Do you know what an Argument from Incredulity is?

    Do you realize how difficult it would be to script games, on the level that you are suggesting?

    Who's in on this rigging? The head coaches? The assistant coaches? The coaches on all of the teams or just a few of them? The NFL owners? All of the owners or just a few of them? The players themselves? All of the players or just a few of them? Are ALL of the referees in on the scripts or just a few of them? What about the employees in the NFL office? Are they aware of the rigging? If so, are all of these employees aware of this or just a few?

    Are all of the games rigged or just a few of them? Who decides which team will win?

    Why? WHEN is this decision made? The night before? The week before? A few hours before?

    Are the sportsbooks in Vegas in on it? If so, are all of them aware of it or just a few? (Note that most sportsbooks operate independently from one another.)

    How long has this rigging been going on? Five years? Ten years? Twenty?

    How come no one has ever come forward with any actual EVIDENCE for this rigging you speak of? Text messages, audio recordings, e-mail messages, letters...

    How come no one has won a Pulitzer Prize with evidence for this mass conspiracy you claim?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2021 - 12:22 PM ET #11

    4-5 years ago, some/most/all/whatever teams used to take practice seriously and would consider special teams an integral part of the game, thus kicking and blocking execution was highly skilled.

    Now it's as sloppy as it gets, blocking in the back of most punt returns for any significant return, blocked punts and field goals due to amateur blocking up front.

    It is was it is

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    4-5 years ago, some/most/all/whatever teams used to take practice seriously and would consider special teams an integral part of the game, thus kicking and blocking execution was highly skilled.

    Now it's as sloppy as it gets, blocking in the back of most punt returns for any significant return, blocked punts and field goals due to amateur blocking up front.

    It is was it is

     
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    Definatly a shit day . I had bengals in a live bet laying 4 had an 11 point lead in the 4th and blew it. I was big on the bucs and when winston got hurt i threw even more at it. The only 1 i benefited from was the cowboys as i bet them the day before and only because i thought dak would play. 

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    Definatly a shit day . I had bengals in a live bet laying 4 had an 11 point lead in the 4th and blew it. I was big on the bucs and when winston got hurt i threw even more at it. The only 1 i benefited from was the cowboys as i bet them the day before and only because i thought dak would play. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tressel33:

    So all of you know who truly watch football for over the years, the probability of seeing a certain act happen in a football game. Like a blocked FG. It happens, but doesn't happen much at all.  It was either last week or two weeks ago, there was at least 4 if not 5 blocked FG's in the week of games. Coincidence??? I don't think so Now fast forward to yesterday what was yesterday now??? Oh the Backup QB day. White for the Jets just happens to beat the Bengals. Trevor (FUCKING) Semien beats Tom Brady and the Bucs????? And to cap it off on national TV, Cooper Rush starts for the Cowboys, and guess what he goes into Minnesota and beats the Vikings???? Really??? So yesterday it was 3 I'll type it again 3 Backup no name QB's beat three very good teams. Coincidence right????? Come on man

    Nothing has changed betting wise in the last 25 years. How's that?

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    So all of you know who truly watch football for over the years, the probability of seeing a certain act happen in a football game. Like a blocked FG. It happens, but doesn't happen much at all.  It was either last week or two weeks ago, there was at least 4 if not 5 blocked FG's in the week of games. Coincidence??? I don't think so Now fast forward to yesterday what was yesterday now??? Oh the Backup QB day. White for the Jets just happens to beat the Bengals. Trevor (FUCKING) Semien beats Tom Brady and the Bucs????? And to cap it off on national TV, Cooper Rush starts for the Cowboys, and guess what he goes into Minnesota and beats the Vikings???? Really??? So yesterday it was 3 I'll type it again 3 Backup no name QB's beat three very good teams. Coincidence right????? Come on man

    Nothing has changed betting wise in the last 25 years. How's that?

     
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    Oooh boy another whining thread paint_help

    here we go again sleep2

    waaaaaaaaah waaaah waaaaahan_cry

    Guess you were on the wrong side I was too but hey it happens on Any Given Sunday move on wtf 

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    Oooh boy another whining thread paint_help

    here we go again sleep2

    waaaaaaaaah waaaah waaaaahan_cry

    Guess you were on the wrong side I was too but hey it happens on Any Given Sunday move on wtf 

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     I don't understand the correlation between the events that you mentioned. Who do you think is responsible for ensuring that multiple kicks get blocked and for backup QBs having success and why? The NFL? "Vegas"?

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     I don't understand the correlation between the events that you mentioned. Who do you think is responsible for ensuring that multiple kicks get blocked and for backup QBs having success and why? The NFL? "Vegas"?

     
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    The biggest thing I have noticed this year is it seems like there are WAY MORE people getting hurt this year then in the past......I took Denver yesterday in game in the 2nd half so I watched the game and I swear just about every other play there was an injury time out....crazy

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    The biggest thing I have noticed this year is it seems like there are WAY MORE people getting hurt this year then in the past......I took Denver yesterday in game in the 2nd half so I watched the game and I swear just about every other play there was an injury time out....crazy

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2021 - 2:44 PM ET #19

    Any given "Vegas" Sunday... an_bomb

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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2021 - 2:45 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by mjm1012:

    Hate to say it but.........Anybody can win on any given Sunday!
     

    That's called a propaganda cliche. It means nothing. It explains nothing.

    They are telling you what to think. It's not remotely true.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjm1012:

    Hate to say it but.........Anybody can win on any given Sunday!
     

    That's called a propaganda cliche. It means nothing. It explains nothing.

    They are telling you what to think. It's not remotely true.

     

     
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     Edge = Books!

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    So let’s say it’s true, the NFL is rigged. There will still be a winner and a loser, right? So you just need to be on the right side. Follow the money, if a game is bet heavy on one side, 90% or more; then bet the other way. Or is that a gamblers fallacy?  
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    So let’s say it’s true, the NFL is rigged. There will still be a winner and a loser, right? So you just need to be on the right side. Follow the money, if a game is bet heavy on one side, 90% or more; then bet the other way. Or is that a gamblers fallacy?  
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     With 90% on one side, I'd bet my life you fade it every time, you'll end up on top. Spread only if a dog, not ml. JMHO.

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     With 90% on one side, I'd bet my life you fade it every time, you'll end up on top. Spread only if a dog, not ml. JMHO.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2021 - 3:53 PM ET #24

    @Raider4life22

     Tell me who like tonight..reallyhappy

    Bet with your wallet not your heart
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    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire 

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