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johntruong911

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Posted: Dec. 7, 2011 - 9:22 PM ET #26

Not money line! They will lose by 13...Vegas gave us Saints, they gave us SD over on money.... underdog, is the name of the game! Johntruong911 is on top 10 with cleveland brown's and I am the only team pro who r playing them Thursday night!!!! Go brown's and they will cover! If. If they do not cover then Sunday morning a lot of underdogs will cover.... Finding a way to beat Vegas and there system.

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johntruong911

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Posted: Dec. 7, 2011 - 9:38 PM ET #27

pittsburg, yes, can win by 30 but will Vegas allow them? Hell no, Brown's first half, brown's tO cOver and under.... Second half on Pittsburg! Finding to beat the system!!!! every saw the lions with three bad pass interference call on the WR.... During the field goal, before the half, saint's went offside and they were complaining but the show went into commercial break! Agian, finding a way to beat vegas! 150fist half... 200 on browns to cover... Under 200

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johntruong911

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Posted: Dec. 7, 2011 - 9:46 PM ET #28

R.I.P Steve jobs, Cooking for him at his cafe and for his staff is the best thing that has ever happened to me! One of his friend/chef Sam likes the brown's GOGO BROWN'S

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NIXXXON

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Posted: Dec. 7, 2011 - 10:24 PM ET #29

Hillis might be "ready to go" Thursday night, but he said himself that he's yet to finish a game w/o nagging his injury. And after only a few days to rest,.. I doubt he's going to be much of a factor as the game progresses. The Browns cant catch the football!! They lead the league with 35 dropped balls.

The locker room is begining to seperate. Players are pointing fingers and are ready to pack it up. (ala J Cribbs) When the coach speaks and players are seen rolling their eyes... you know there's trouble. Steelers still have a lot to play for here. Besides Thursday night's game, the Browns will close out their season when they host the likely playoff-bound Steelers on New Year's Day. Now that's a game the Browns could compete in. I've been back in forth since Sunday, but after taking a better look... Steelers -14

GL mates!!

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Hillis might be "ready to go" Thursday night, but he said himself that he's yet to finish a game w/o nagging his injury. And after only a few days to rest,.. I doubt he's going to be much of a factor as the game progresses. The Browns cant catch the football!! They lead the league with 35 dropped balls.

The locker room is begining to seperate. Players are pointing fingers and are ready to pack it up. (ala J Cribbs) When the coach speaks and players are seen rolling their eyes... you know there's trouble. Steelers still have a lot to play for here. Besides Thursday night's game, the Browns will close out their season when they host the likely playoff-bound Steelers on New Year's Day. Now that's a game the Browns could compete in. I've been back in forth since Sunday, but after taking a better look... Steelers -14

GL mates!!

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Cover34

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 12:08 AM ET #30

Clevelander here...Colt MCcoy will get knocked out of this game..

Bet with your wallet,not your heart

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Clevelander here...Colt MCcoy will get knocked out of this game..

cambyspree99

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 12:12 AM ET #31

browns offense eats

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browns offense eats

tomseaver286

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 12:20 AM ET #32

Quote Originally Posted by placeholder:

I know, I'm just burning money, no way do these lowly Browns win this game against the top-notch Steelers, well, lets look at some facts that may make you think a little more open-minded.

1. The Browns have the #1 pass defense, which might mean, a shutout night for Mike Wallance and Antonio Brown, also, I don't believe the Browns will need much to slow down Hines Ward or Heath Miller.

2. It's true that the Browns are nothing to brag about against the RUN, but lets face facts, the Steelers O-line, even with Max Starks, is nowhere as good as previous seasons, also, add into the fact that Mendenhall was so overworked last season that we can all see that it has taken a toll on the Steelers lead RB.

3. As for RB rankings, Mendenhall is ranked #23rd overall with a lowly 634 yards on the ground, that's nowhere near Ray Rice, McCoy, or Frank Gore numbers, I wouldn't count on the RUN to help the Steelers gain much ground.

4. Peyton Hillis (probable), who has been doomed by the Madden Curse, is still a beast when carrying the ball, even against a Pitt D that ranks #7 against the RUN and #2 against the PASS, I expect the Browns and McCoy to constantly look for Hillis to ground and pound and also handle the check downs, Hillis last year was pretty match-up proof, and I can see him playing his non-contract heart out in this rivalry game.

5. Fade the public, Dogs have done well on TNF.

6. This is the Cleveland Browns Superbowl!

Cleveland Browns ML @ +750

If the Browns had not just played the Ravens on Sunday, you might be onto something. Sadly, Steelers win by 10.

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Quote Originally Posted by placeholder:

I know, I'm just burning money, no way do these lowly Browns win this game against the top-notch Steelers, well, lets look at some facts that may make you think a little more open-minded.

1. The Browns have the #1 pass defense, which might mean, a shutout night for Mike Wallance and Antonio Brown, also, I don't believe the Browns will need much to slow down Hines Ward or Heath Miller.

2. It's true that the Browns are nothing to brag about against the RUN, but lets face facts, the Steelers O-line, even with Max Starks, is nowhere as good as previous seasons, also, add into the fact that Mendenhall was so overworked last season that we can all see that it has taken a toll on the Steelers lead RB.

3. As for RB rankings, Mendenhall is ranked #23rd overall with a lowly 634 yards on the ground, that's nowhere near Ray Rice, McCoy, or Frank Gore numbers, I wouldn't count on the RUN to help the Steelers gain much ground.

4. Peyton Hillis (probable), who has been doomed by the Madden Curse, is still a beast when carrying the ball, even against a Pitt D that ranks #7 against the RUN and #2 against the PASS, I expect the Browns and McCoy to constantly look for Hillis to ground and pound and also handle the check downs, Hillis last year was pretty match-up proof, and I can see him playing his non-contract heart out in this rivalry game.

5. Fade the public, Dogs have done well on TNF.

6. This is the Cleveland Browns Superbowl!

Cleveland Browns ML @ +750

If the Browns had not just played the Ravens on Sunday, you might be onto something. Sadly, Steelers win by 10.

jabbadon

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 12:38 AM ET #33

I like it bro good luck!

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I like it bro good luck!

JackSmack

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 1:14 AM ET #34

#1 No need to pass, everyone runs over the browns

#2 Mendenhall looked great last week with speed into the hole like I havent seen this year from him.

#3 see #2

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#1 No need to pass, everyone runs over the browns

#2 Mendenhall looked great last week with speed into the hole like I havent seen this year from him.

#3 see #2

Plisskin76

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 1:33 AM ET #35

Pitt won 14 of last 15 vs browns.they won't lose.

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Pitt won 14 of last 15 vs browns.they won't lose.

Bet_The_House

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 1:51 AM ET #36

Cleveland doesn't have the #1 pass defense. The stat that matters there is opponent yards per pass attempt. Pitt rates at #1 with 5.3 yards Cleveland is #7 at 6.2 yards. Now if you have a look at pass offense, Pitt is #8 and Cle #30 in yards per pass attempt.

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Cleveland doesn't have the #1 pass defense. The stat that matters there is opponent yards per pass attempt. Pitt rates at #1 with 5.3 yards Cleveland is #7 at 6.2 yards. Now if you have a look at pass offense, Pitt is #8 and Cle #30 in yards per pass attempt.

Gavinnick

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 2:04 AM ET #37

dont be stupid if you like the brownies take the points, the ML is like a lotto ticket , you may hit it but that is

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dont be stupid if you like the brownies take the points, the ML is like a lotto ticket , you may hit it but that is

HawaiianWarrior

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 3:33 AM ET #38

Actually Cribbs would have to be the guy making big plays killa..GL

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Actually Cribbs would have to be the guy making big plays killa..GL

FBNK

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 7:36 AM ET #39

Quote Originally Posted by JackSmack:

#1 No need to pass, everyone runs over the browns

#2 Mendenhall looked great last week with speed into the hole like I havent seen this year from him.

#3 see #2

Yep, when teams can run at a 4.4 YPC clip, and go for an average of 151.3 per, there's no need to sling it.

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Quote Originally Posted by JackSmack:

#1 No need to pass, everyone runs over the browns

#2 Mendenhall looked great last week with speed into the hole like I havent seen this year from him.

#3 see #2

Yep, when teams can run at a 4.4 YPC clip, and go for an average of 151.3 per, there's no need to sling it.

GaryThirteen

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 8:33 AM ET #40

Pitt is going to at least win this one... Take the points if your going to take the Browns ML...

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Pitt is going to at least win this one... Take the points if your going to take the Browns ML...

binger1

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 9:37 AM ET #41

If this game stays under 38 Browns cover but i just can't see it and im a Browns fan. This games gone over the total when played in Pitt. 7 times outta the last 8.Im betting tonight with my head not my heart and takn' the over /Steelers 31 Browns 10 as much as i hate to say it..

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If this game stays under 38 Browns cover but i just can't see it and im a Browns fan. This games gone over the total when played in Pitt. 7 times outta the last 8.Im betting tonight with my head not my heart and takn' the over /Steelers 31 Browns 10 as much as i hate to say it..

dgnerate

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 11:05 AM ET #42

a lot of Squares taking Pit laying the points...too many that it translate to Now 88% on Pit(see vegasinsider.com)!!!
i'm loving my +14 more and more.

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a lot of Squares taking Pit laying the points...too many that it translate to Now 88% on Pit(see vegasinsider.com)!!!
i'm loving my +14 more and more.

Getmoneyy

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 11:35 AM ET #43

The clowns will cover !!! It's hard to believe but take the points.. Vegas is all over this one

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The clowns will cover !!! It's hard to believe but take the points.. Vegas is all over this one

dgnerate

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 11:39 AM ET #44

Quote Originally Posted by Getmoneyy:

The clowns will cover !!! It's hard to believe but take the points.. Vegas is all over this one

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Quote Originally Posted by Getmoneyy:

The clowns will cover !!! It's hard to believe but take the points.. Vegas is all over this one

NewEraNaciremA

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 11:42 AM ET #45

Honesty is the best policy and honestly,it would be better to be a better bettor and take the pts or stay away

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Honesty is the best policy and honestly,it would be better to be a better bettor and take the pts or stay away

imsoti8

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 12:50 PM ET #46

Keep in mind that it will be 20 freaking degrees when these two play tonight. I don't care what anybody says, when it's cold it's cold. So whoever has the better running game and defense will win. Age has a big factor in a short week especially when you have traveled in the past couple of weeks. I do believe the Browns will treat this game as a playoff or must win situation. I don't know if Pitt will cover, but the Browns won't quit because of the rivalry.

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Keep in mind that it will be 20 freaking degrees when these two play tonight. I don't care what anybody says, when it's cold it's cold. So whoever has the better running game and defense will win. Age has a big factor in a short week especially when you have traveled in the past couple of weeks. I do believe the Browns will treat this game as a playoff or must win situation. I don't know if Pitt will cover, but the Browns won't quit because of the rivalry.

peteeeer

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 1:03 PM ET #47

Quote Originally Posted by imsoti8:

Keep in mind that it will be 20 freaking degrees when these two play tonight. I don't care what anybody says, when it's cold it's cold. So whoever has the better running game and defense will win. Age has a big factor in a short week especially when you have traveled in the past couple of weeks. I do believe the Browns will treat this game as a playoff or must win situation. I don't know if Pitt will cover, but the Browns won't quit because of the rivalry.

agree with the weather report

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Quote Originally Posted by imsoti8:

Keep in mind that it will be 20 freaking degrees when these two play tonight. I don't care what anybody says, when it's cold it's cold. So whoever has the better running game and defense will win. Age has a big factor in a short week especially when you have traveled in the past couple of weeks. I do believe the Browns will treat this game as a playoff or must win situation. I don't know if Pitt will cover, but the Browns won't quit because of the rivalry.

agree with the weather report

ArtSchlichterJr

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 2:04 PM ET #48

Quote Originally Posted by Getmoneyy:

The clowns will cover !!! It's hard to believe but take the points.. Vegas is all over this one
Just like the way Vegas was all over the Browns last week when the Browns played the Ravens... May cover but in the REAL world Vegas has zip to do with any NFL outcome.. In fact besides the SB Vegas could give a shit about ANY sporting event.. NO CASINO in Vegas made more then 1.5 percent of their GAI from their books ... Books in Vegas are an after thought... 1.5 percent of their earnings.. chump change.. Thats why the flunkies of the owner get their jobs in the book arena.. limits are set for a reason.. Books in Vegas are a perk.. nothing more nothing less.. 1.5 percent... says it all. no matter the number..

Be careful with the axe Eugene.

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Quote Originally Posted by Getmoneyy:

The clowns will cover !!! It's hard to believe but take the points.. Vegas is all over this one
Just like the way Vegas was all over the Browns last week when the Browns played the Ravens... May cover but in the REAL world Vegas has zip to do with any NFL outcome.. In fact besides the SB Vegas could give a shit about ANY sporting event.. NO CASINO in Vegas made more then 1.5 percent of their GAI from their books ... Books in Vegas are an after thought... 1.5 percent of their earnings.. chump change.. Thats why the flunkies of the owner get their jobs in the book arena.. limits are set for a reason.. Books in Vegas are a perk.. nothing more nothing less.. 1.5 percent... says it all. no matter the number..

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 4:55 PM ET #49

Joe Haden
Colt McCoy
Peyton Hillis
Joshua Cribbs
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Joe Haden
Colt McCoy
Peyton Hillis
Joshua Cribbs
mohamed massaquoi
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Posted: Dec. 8, 2011 - 8:11 PM ET #50

Good luck everybody!

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Good luck everybody!

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