Should of just stuck to the underground bookies and offshore books.
This is an interesting topic, one that I hope gets some comments from all the gamblers on this forum. For the record, I wholeheartedly agree. Luckily, nobody else in my family has quite the gambling itch that I do. My brother will bet $20-$50 on a UFC fight here or there. The problem is, now that it is legalized and the government is going to get involved, they are going to **** it up as with everything else that they get involved with.
1. The first and probably the most tragic part of all this is the number of young men's lives that will be ruined by this. The majority of guys like sports, through high school and college. Naturally, when you have a wager on a game, if you win the wager you scream a little louder and cheer a little harder. The problem is that these unsuspecting gentleman are one winning bet away from feeling invincible and thinking they can replicate that win day in and day out. Learning how to be a true *sharp* sports better requires years of pain/misery. It requires tremendous restraint and discipline (think BR management). It requires access to good information, which a large part of being a successful better. You have to recognize narrow edges, and pounce before the information gets out and there is line movement. You think that these 21-30 year olds recognize this? Not a chance. If you can, i recommend checking out the 60 minutes piece that they did on young people getting into sports gambling and how detrimental it is because it is now at their fingertips on their phones.
2. These online casinos are thieves. As a matter of fact, a lot of the sports books are thieves too. They have no problem taking your money when you bet $100 bucks on a 10 team parlay that they know they're going to collect on. But as soon as they spot a winner, they are going to either completely limit the bettor or ban him. If you follow Bill Krackomberger, who is a Vegas legend who has been in the industry for decades, he says "these sportsbooks don't allow winners any more." If you're a winning bettor, theyll just ban you. It is very hard to get big money down nowadays and most people, who are sharp or even trying to bet any substantial amount of money need runners.
This is an interesting topic, one that I hope gets some comments from all the gamblers on this forum. For the record, I wholeheartedly agree. Luckily, nobody else in my family has quite the gambling itch that I do. My brother will bet $20-$50 on a UFC fight here or there. The problem is, now that it is legalized and the government is going to get involved, they are going to **** it up as with everything else that they get involved with.
1. The first and probably the most tragic part of all this is the number of young men's lives that will be ruined by this. The majority of guys like sports, through high school and college. Naturally, when you have a wager on a game, if you win the wager you scream a little louder and cheer a little harder. The problem is that these unsuspecting gentleman are one winning bet away from feeling invincible and thinking they can replicate that win day in and day out. Learning how to be a true *sharp* sports better requires years of pain/misery. It requires tremendous restraint and discipline (think BR management). It requires access to good information, which a large part of being a successful better. You have to recognize narrow edges, and pounce before the information gets out and there is line movement. You think that these 21-30 year olds recognize this? Not a chance. If you can, i recommend checking out the 60 minutes piece that they did on young people getting into sports gambling and how detrimental it is because it is now at their fingertips on their phones.
2. These online casinos are thieves. As a matter of fact, a lot of the sports books are thieves too. They have no problem taking your money when you bet $100 bucks on a 10 team parlay that they know they're going to collect on. But as soon as they spot a winner, they are going to either completely limit the bettor or ban him. If you follow Bill Krackomberger, who is a Vegas legend who has been in the industry for decades, he says "these sportsbooks don't allow winners any more." If you're a winning bettor, theyll just ban you. It is very hard to get big money down nowadays and most people, who are sharp or even trying to bet any substantial amount of money need runners.
Thats about the jist of it..
Thats about the jist of it..
@Ih8coldweather
U have to use several different sports betting sites or sportsBooks, @ one point way back in 2001, I had about 18 to 21 different offshore books for the very reasons. U stated, have not been able to get that many again, but I do use about 5
@Ih8coldweather
U have to use several different sports betting sites or sportsBooks, @ one point way back in 2001, I had about 18 to 21 different offshore books for the very reasons. U stated, have not been able to get that many again, but I do use about 5
yeah r ight illegal bookies buried millins in usa omg how i screwed t hem over in mlb after losinf thousands in nfl in the 80's
tried to force me om huge false fav runline saying i'm doing you favr now it only -160 i said whats the dog moneyline he said +140
i said i want the full dog money line +220 he said no runline only ok i said give me the dog for $1000 he said whoaaa you do not have that kind of money i said your robbng me mike he said no rl or no nothing said see ya thurs dog smoked the yankess wire to wire 10 -2
couldnt drive to ac casinos fast enough fri night
did this time n time again
yeah r ight illegal bookies buried millins in usa omg how i screwed t hem over in mlb after losinf thousands in nfl in the 80's
tried to force me om huge false fav runline saying i'm doing you favr now it only -160 i said whats the dog moneyline he said +140
i said i want the full dog money line +220 he said no runline only ok i said give me the dog for $1000 he said whoaaa you do not have that kind of money i said your robbng me mike he said no rl or no nothing said see ya thurs dog smoked the yankess wire to wire 10 -2
couldnt drive to ac casinos fast enough fri night
did this time n time again
The juice has been on both sides since the beginning of time, if betting on the spread.
The juice has been on both sides since the beginning of time, if betting on the spread.
@undermysac
This is true but at -110 either side was the norm back in the day but the point I believe that raider was making is it is juiced on both sides yes since the beginning of time but juiced must differently with odds from -113 and or a - 111 depending on the side you choose so why the change and diversions from the standard -110 no matter if you like the over or under and not slanted off the -110 juice no matter what your play is like it used to be and I believe the lines have most definitely been altered since the beginning of time.
@undermysac
This is true but at -110 either side was the norm back in the day but the point I believe that raider was making is it is juiced on both sides yes since the beginning of time but juiced must differently with odds from -113 and or a - 111 depending on the side you choose so why the change and diversions from the standard -110 no matter if you like the over or under and not slanted off the -110 juice no matter what your play is like it used to be and I believe the lines have most definitely been altered since the beginning of time.
Sports has most certainly changed with the influx of money. Anyone who thinks differently is in fantasy land.
Sports has most certainly changed with the influx of money. Anyone who thinks differently is in fantasy land.
For that matter, anyone that thinks money doesn’t change things is naive and never seen it happen. I have witnessed it from people to athletes. One good example is Marquis Knowell from KSU. That kid changed like nobody else’s I had ever seen.
For that matter, anyone that thinks money doesn’t change things is naive and never seen it happen. I have witnessed it from people to athletes. One good example is Marquis Knowell from KSU. That kid changed like nobody else’s I had ever seen.
I wished they would of kept it illegal. Too many ding dongs are going go bankrupt just because they've watched sportscenter most their lives... they have no idea what they are getting into.
I wished they would of kept it illegal. Too many ding dongs are going go bankrupt just because they've watched sportscenter most their lives... they have no idea what they are getting into.
yeah but now just $5 bet mult iple wr score td's cn mke you happy i did it mny times lst ea based teans defses
imagne gettng 5 with + odds +125 +150+220 et c /etc///
yeah but now just $5 bet mult iple wr score td's cn mke you happy i did it mny times lst ea based teans defses
imagne gettng 5 with + odds +125 +150+220 et c /etc///
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