jackjaffee anytime you are losing in a game you take the lead and win the game you came back to win the game so hence the term comeback. You seem like a smart guy, not.
You obviously don't get what a comeback win is. A comeback win is what they did against the Eagles. Now can you tell what it really means? Probably not, you don't seem very bright, especially reading your reasons why they will win the game.
jackjaffee anytime you are losing in a game you take the lead and win the game you came back to win the game so hence the term comeback. You seem like a smart guy, not.
You obviously don't get what a comeback win is. A comeback win is what they did against the Eagles. Now can you tell what it really means? Probably not, you don't seem very bright, especially reading your reasons why they will win the game.
They came back to win the game, bottom line, they didnt blow it. A young team vs a veteren team, how many times before have we seen the young team take a nice lead and then the veteren team comes back to beat them, not this cards team, they blew a huge lead and then came back with an 8 minute game winning drive, they didnt kick a cheap field goal, they scored a td. Thats a huge deal swisscheese face.
Young team? Let's take a look at the Cards skill positions on offense, shall we?
Kurt Warner, not so young. Edge, not so young Fitzgerald, veteran player Boldin, veteran player
Though I guess Breaston being in his 2nd year offsets the decades of combined experience of those other players
Yeah, that is one real young, inexperienced team there.
They came back to win the game, bottom line, they didnt blow it. A young team vs a veteren team, how many times before have we seen the young team take a nice lead and then the veteren team comes back to beat them, not this cards team, they blew a huge lead and then came back with an 8 minute game winning drive, they didnt kick a cheap field goal, they scored a td. Thats a huge deal swisscheese face.
Young team? Let's take a look at the Cards skill positions on offense, shall we?
Kurt Warner, not so young. Edge, not so young Fitzgerald, veteran player Boldin, veteran player
Though I guess Breaston being in his 2nd year offsets the decades of combined experience of those other players
Yeah, that is one real young, inexperienced team there.
rocco,,a homer call for certain but I like most of it - and mean no ill will by the homer call. Tar Heel Cappers will keep a watchful (and hopeful) eye out for -7.5, when that happens, the locals fone shall ring --
rocco,,a homer call for certain but I like most of it - and mean no ill will by the homer call. Tar Heel Cappers will keep a watchful (and hopeful) eye out for -7.5, when that happens, the locals fone shall ring --
Technically those are all facts. What are you talking about? Go ahead and defend yourself, I'll be waiting.
Think I already did. Read the below posts. In case your wondering Arizona will lose the Superbowl Ok? No doubt about it. Arizona is way to soft of a team.
For numbers 1,4, 5 and 6 of this post. Wait so they stop the run for 3 games and this is a team that all of a sudden stops the run? ? ? Any team can stop the run. Are you fucken serious? Come up with something better then that. YOU CAN SAY THAT ABOUT EVERY ALMOST EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL!!! DETROIT WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE LEFT OUT!!!!!!!!
Technically those are all facts. What are you talking about? Go ahead and defend yourself, I'll be waiting.
Think I already did. Read the below posts. In case your wondering Arizona will lose the Superbowl Ok? No doubt about it. Arizona is way to soft of a team.
For numbers 1,4, 5 and 6 of this post. Wait so they stop the run for 3 games and this is a team that all of a sudden stops the run? ? ? Any team can stop the run. Are you fucken serious? Come up with something better then that. YOU CAN SAY THAT ABOUT EVERY ALMOST EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL!!! DETROIT WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE LEFT OUT!!!!!!!!
Defense stopping the Run? Yeah ok they stopped the run for 3 games. So all of a sudden they are a good defense? What about the team that allowed well over 300 yards per game this season. Oh all of a sudden they are a good defense? ? ?
Open your eyes man. I dont want to argue with you. Pitt didnt play the passing teams. Indy and SD were about it. Houston is up there, but that was after week 4 when Schaub got hurt. Its easy to make your passing defense numbers look good when you play cleveland, cincinatti and baltimore as damn near half your schedule...who are in the bottom 5 in the entire NFL in passing....They only won 6 games all season by more than a td, and clev/cincy accounted for 3 of those....
Defense stopping the Run? Yeah ok they stopped the run for 3 games. So all of a sudden they are a good defense? What about the team that allowed well over 300 yards per game this season. Oh all of a sudden they are a good defense? ? ?
Open your eyes man. I dont want to argue with you. Pitt didnt play the passing teams. Indy and SD were about it. Houston is up there, but that was after week 4 when Schaub got hurt. Its easy to make your passing defense numbers look good when you play cleveland, cincinatti and baltimore as damn near half your schedule...who are in the bottom 5 in the entire NFL in passing....They only won 6 games all season by more than a td, and clev/cincy accounted for 3 of those....
I think Kurt Warner is something like 8-2 in playoff game (Bradyesque!). The guy just plays well in big games. And with no weather concerns, I gotta think Arizona can keep it close.
I think Kurt Warner is something like 8-2 in playoff game (Bradyesque!). The guy just plays well in big games. And with no weather concerns, I gotta think Arizona can keep it close.
Open your eyes man. I dont want to argue with you. Pitt didnt play the passing teams. Indy and SD were about it. Houston is up there, but that was after week 4 when Schaub got hurt. Its easy to make your passing defense numbers look good when you play cleveland, cincinatti and baltimore as damn near half your schedule...who are in the bottom 5 in the entire NFL in passing....They only won 6 games all season by more than a td, and clev/cincy accounted for 3 of those....
gl with your plays sir
Who is talking about Pitt's defense? Did anyone mention Pitt's defense. Arizona's defense is terrible. That's the point I'm trying to make. Why did you just start talking about Pitt's D?
Open your eyes man. I dont want to argue with you. Pitt didnt play the passing teams. Indy and SD were about it. Houston is up there, but that was after week 4 when Schaub got hurt. Its easy to make your passing defense numbers look good when you play cleveland, cincinatti and baltimore as damn near half your schedule...who are in the bottom 5 in the entire NFL in passing....They only won 6 games all season by more than a td, and clev/cincy accounted for 3 of those....
gl with your plays sir
Who is talking about Pitt's defense? Did anyone mention Pitt's defense. Arizona's defense is terrible. That's the point I'm trying to make. Why did you just start talking about Pitt's D?
I too believe the Cards will cover and was seriously looking at betting the +220 Moneyline.
One point not made yet is that Pitts running game does not have The Bus anymore, nor any back that can be him now. Willie is average right now (dont let SD and Clev games fool you, he will get somewhere between 80-100 yrds vs Cards, & also has had 8 games this year listed with knee and shoulder injuries) and can be somewhat limited by the AZ Defense that has shut down the backs its played in the playoffs(Turner, Williams/Stewart, Westbrook), which matters more to me than the stats throughout the year, momentum in betting is a huge thing and I believe AZ Defense has it going in to this game against the Pitt Offense, also Hines Ward w/ a knee injury really is not going to be a factor at all, mark my words, so Big Ben will need to rely on Holmes, Miller and Washington, which they are average at best. Believe me I had Holmes on my fantasy team all year...he sucked. But he has the ability to step up, should of had a another TD last week for a total of 100yrds and 2tds, not 70yrds and 1 TD. however I believe the Cards Secondary will pick Big Ben in this one, if not a couple times. The Steeler OL is another issue also, Big Ben has been pounded in the last two games, and the Cards Def Line has 7 total sacks now in the 3 playoff games. So I see some pressure happening there too. Not sure the Steeler Offense can score more than 21 points on its own. Theyve also had help from special teams(Holmes punt return) and Def scoring (Troy pick 6) TDs in the last two games, and that could very well happen vs. AZ.
Cards have scored 95 total points in the 3 playoff games... I just cant see the Steeler D shutting them completely down.
After looking at this one I like the AZ moneyline even more.
I too believe the Cards will cover and was seriously looking at betting the +220 Moneyline.
One point not made yet is that Pitts running game does not have The Bus anymore, nor any back that can be him now. Willie is average right now (dont let SD and Clev games fool you, he will get somewhere between 80-100 yrds vs Cards, & also has had 8 games this year listed with knee and shoulder injuries) and can be somewhat limited by the AZ Defense that has shut down the backs its played in the playoffs(Turner, Williams/Stewart, Westbrook), which matters more to me than the stats throughout the year, momentum in betting is a huge thing and I believe AZ Defense has it going in to this game against the Pitt Offense, also Hines Ward w/ a knee injury really is not going to be a factor at all, mark my words, so Big Ben will need to rely on Holmes, Miller and Washington, which they are average at best. Believe me I had Holmes on my fantasy team all year...he sucked. But he has the ability to step up, should of had a another TD last week for a total of 100yrds and 2tds, not 70yrds and 1 TD. however I believe the Cards Secondary will pick Big Ben in this one, if not a couple times. The Steeler OL is another issue also, Big Ben has been pounded in the last two games, and the Cards Def Line has 7 total sacks now in the 3 playoff games. So I see some pressure happening there too. Not sure the Steeler Offense can score more than 21 points on its own. Theyve also had help from special teams(Holmes punt return) and Def scoring (Troy pick 6) TDs in the last two games, and that could very well happen vs. AZ.
Cards have scored 95 total points in the 3 playoff games... I just cant see the Steeler D shutting them completely down.
After looking at this one I like the AZ moneyline even more.
The Cards have several edges in this game, not only was Whisenhunt the Steelers tight end coach from 2001-2003 and offensive coordinator from 2004-2006, but Russ Grimm was the Steeler assistant head coach/offensive line coach, Mike Miller the receivers coach , Matt Raich a defensive assistant and Kevin Spencer the Special Teams coach. Talk about knowing your enemy. They know the strengths and weaknesses of alot of the Steeler players. Of course Tomlin knows this, but even so, it's making a Cardinal bet looking mighty good. Whisenhunt should be able to get in Roethlisberger's head to devise a scheme to minimize Hines Ward's impact (assuming he's able to play at 100%).
Consider this: Pittsburgh has played 2 of the top 7 passing teams this season in Indy and Houston and given up an average of over 20 points per game. Both were home games for Pittsburgh where their defense is off the charts, and more importantly, Arizona passes for close to 30 points per game more than either (if you throw out the meaningless games). For these reasons, i'm leaning on a gametime pick of the CARDs to pull it off.
The "us against the world" mentality could lose its force during the next 2 weeks, so don't count that as an edge for the CARDs as they used that in the last 3 playoff games. The big key is Hines Ward being healthy, but either way, the Steelers will do a good job against Fitzgerald and control the clock. My early lean is the Steelers, but if the line reaches 7.5 i'll hop on the CARDs.
The Cards have several edges in this game, not only was Whisenhunt the Steelers tight end coach from 2001-2003 and offensive coordinator from 2004-2006, but Russ Grimm was the Steeler assistant head coach/offensive line coach, Mike Miller the receivers coach , Matt Raich a defensive assistant and Kevin Spencer the Special Teams coach. Talk about knowing your enemy. They know the strengths and weaknesses of alot of the Steeler players. Of course Tomlin knows this, but even so, it's making a Cardinal bet looking mighty good. Whisenhunt should be able to get in Roethlisberger's head to devise a scheme to minimize Hines Ward's impact (assuming he's able to play at 100%).
Consider this: Pittsburgh has played 2 of the top 7 passing teams this season in Indy and Houston and given up an average of over 20 points per game. Both were home games for Pittsburgh where their defense is off the charts, and more importantly, Arizona passes for close to 30 points per game more than either (if you throw out the meaningless games). For these reasons, i'm leaning on a gametime pick of the CARDs to pull it off.
The "us against the world" mentality could lose its force during the next 2 weeks, so don't count that as an edge for the CARDs as they used that in the last 3 playoff games. The big key is Hines Ward being healthy, but either way, the Steelers will do a good job against Fitzgerald and control the clock. My early lean is the Steelers, but if the line reaches 7.5 i'll hop on the CARDs.
The Cards have several edges in this game, not only was Whisenhunt the Steelers tight end coach from 2001-2003 and offensive coordinator from 2004-2006, but Russ Grimm was the Steeler assistant head coach/offensive line coach, Mike Miller the receivers coach , Matt Raich a defensive assistant and Kevin Spencer the Special Teams coach. Talk about knowing your enemy. They know the strengths and weaknesses of alot of the Steeler players. Of course Tomlin knows this, but even so, it's making a Cardinal bet looking mighty good. Whisenhunt should be able to get in Roethlisberger's head to devise a scheme to minimize Hines Ward's impact (assuming he's able to play at 100%).
Consider this: Pittsburgh has played 2 of the top 7 passing teams this season in Indy and Houston and given up an average of over 20 points per game. Both were home games for Pittsburgh where their defense is off the charts, and more importantly, Arizona passes for close to 30 points per game more than either (if you throw out the meaningless games). For these reasons, i'm leaning on a gametime pick of the CARDs to pull it off.
The "us against the world" mentality could lose its force during the next 2 weeks, so don't count that as an edge for the CARDs as they used that in the last 3 playoff games. The big key is Hines Ward being healthy, but either way, the Steelers will do a good job against Fitzgerald and control the clock. My early lean is the Steelers, but if the line reaches 7.5 i'll hop on the CARDs.
Your just spitting things out without knowing any facts here. First off Ken, Russ, Mike and Matt and blah blah blah. So they know the weakness of the Pitt players. Last time I checked that's not hard to do at all. The Steelers played 18 games this season. That's more then enough games to brake down and find the weak point in players. Any coach in the NFL can find the same amount of information as the Cards staff.
About playing Houston and Indy. So if Houston and Indy both scored 50 points against the Steelers, Does that mean Steelers have a hard time at stopping the pass? What if Indy and Houston scored their 50 points with their special teams and their defense?
In the game against Houston they allowed 202 yards passing along with 2 Int. In the game vs Indy the steelers allowed just 240 yards thorugh the air. In those two games they allowed in average of 221 ypg. Oh wait thats BETTER then their season average for the year. What you know about that? ? ? ?
The Cards have several edges in this game, not only was Whisenhunt the Steelers tight end coach from 2001-2003 and offensive coordinator from 2004-2006, but Russ Grimm was the Steeler assistant head coach/offensive line coach, Mike Miller the receivers coach , Matt Raich a defensive assistant and Kevin Spencer the Special Teams coach. Talk about knowing your enemy. They know the strengths and weaknesses of alot of the Steeler players. Of course Tomlin knows this, but even so, it's making a Cardinal bet looking mighty good. Whisenhunt should be able to get in Roethlisberger's head to devise a scheme to minimize Hines Ward's impact (assuming he's able to play at 100%).
Consider this: Pittsburgh has played 2 of the top 7 passing teams this season in Indy and Houston and given up an average of over 20 points per game. Both were home games for Pittsburgh where their defense is off the charts, and more importantly, Arizona passes for close to 30 points per game more than either (if you throw out the meaningless games). For these reasons, i'm leaning on a gametime pick of the CARDs to pull it off.
The "us against the world" mentality could lose its force during the next 2 weeks, so don't count that as an edge for the CARDs as they used that in the last 3 playoff games. The big key is Hines Ward being healthy, but either way, the Steelers will do a good job against Fitzgerald and control the clock. My early lean is the Steelers, but if the line reaches 7.5 i'll hop on the CARDs.
Your just spitting things out without knowing any facts here. First off Ken, Russ, Mike and Matt and blah blah blah. So they know the weakness of the Pitt players. Last time I checked that's not hard to do at all. The Steelers played 18 games this season. That's more then enough games to brake down and find the weak point in players. Any coach in the NFL can find the same amount of information as the Cards staff.
About playing Houston and Indy. So if Houston and Indy both scored 50 points against the Steelers, Does that mean Steelers have a hard time at stopping the pass? What if Indy and Houston scored their 50 points with their special teams and their defense?
In the game against Houston they allowed 202 yards passing along with 2 Int. In the game vs Indy the steelers allowed just 240 yards thorugh the air. In those two games they allowed in average of 221 ypg. Oh wait thats BETTER then their season average for the year. What you know about that? ? ? ?
Open your eyes man. I dont want to argue with you. Pitt didnt play the passing teams. Indy and SD were about it. Houston is up there, but that was after week 4 when Schaub got hurt. Its easy to make your passing defense numbers look good when you play cleveland, cincinatti and baltimore as damn near half your schedule...who are in the bottom 5 in the entire NFL in passing....They only won 6 games all season by more than a td, and clev/cincy accounted for 3 of those....
gl with your plays sir
So the New England team that Pittsburgh held to 10 points isn't a passing team? They looked like a passing team to me when they put up 47 against Arizona.
Open your eyes man. I dont want to argue with you. Pitt didnt play the passing teams. Indy and SD were about it. Houston is up there, but that was after week 4 when Schaub got hurt. Its easy to make your passing defense numbers look good when you play cleveland, cincinatti and baltimore as damn near half your schedule...who are in the bottom 5 in the entire NFL in passing....They only won 6 games all season by more than a td, and clev/cincy accounted for 3 of those....
gl with your plays sir
So the New England team that Pittsburgh held to 10 points isn't a passing team? They looked like a passing team to me when they put up 47 against Arizona.
I think Kurt Warner is something like 8-2 in playoff game (Bradyesque!). The guy just plays well in big games. And with no weather concerns, I gotta think Arizona can keep it close.
And Ben has 7 playoff wins in his first five years in the league. The guy just plays well in big games.
I think Kurt Warner is something like 8-2 in playoff game (Bradyesque!). The guy just plays well in big games. And with no weather concerns, I gotta think Arizona can keep it close.
And Ben has 7 playoff wins in his first five years in the league. The guy just plays well in big games.
Thanks for the FACTS! winningUNITS, now i feel a little better about my Steeler pick in the Playoff Contest...my tournament life is depending on the Steeler D.
Quote Originally Posted by WinningUnits:
Your just spitting things out without knowing any facts here. First off Ken, Russ, Mike and Matt and blah blah blah. So they know the weakness of the Pitt players. Last time I checked that's not hard to do at all. The Steelers played 18 games this season. That's more then enough games to brake down and find the weak point in players. Any coach in the NFL can find the same amount of information as the Cards staff.
About playing Houston and Indy. So if Houston and Indy both scored 50 points against the Steelers, Does that mean Steelers have a hard time at stopping the pass? What if Indy and Houston scored their 50 points with their special teams and their defense?
In the game against Houston they allowed 202 yards passing along with 2 Int. In the game vs Indy the steelers allowed just 240 yards thorugh the air. In those two games they allowed in average of 221 ypg. Oh wait thats BETTER then their season average for the year. What you know about that? ? ? ?
Thanks for the FACTS! winningUNITS, now i feel a little better about my Steeler pick in the Playoff Contest...my tournament life is depending on the Steeler D.
Quote Originally Posted by WinningUnits:
Your just spitting things out without knowing any facts here. First off Ken, Russ, Mike and Matt and blah blah blah. So they know the weakness of the Pitt players. Last time I checked that's not hard to do at all. The Steelers played 18 games this season. That's more then enough games to brake down and find the weak point in players. Any coach in the NFL can find the same amount of information as the Cards staff.
About playing Houston and Indy. So if Houston and Indy both scored 50 points against the Steelers, Does that mean Steelers have a hard time at stopping the pass? What if Indy and Houston scored their 50 points with their special teams and their defense?
In the game against Houston they allowed 202 yards passing along with 2 Int. In the game vs Indy the steelers allowed just 240 yards thorugh the air. In those two games they allowed in average of 221 ypg. Oh wait thats BETTER then their season average for the year. What you know about that? ? ? ?
Another way to play this is to parlay Arizona and the over, and Pittsburgh and the under. We all know both teams are directly opposite each other in their styles of play. A low score means that things are going the Steelers way while a shootout would favor Zona. I need to hedge my Steeler and Under bet anyway, so i'll parley the Zona and Over.
Another way to play this is to parlay Arizona and the over, and Pittsburgh and the under. We all know both teams are directly opposite each other in their styles of play. A low score means that things are going the Steelers way while a shootout would favor Zona. I need to hedge my Steeler and Under bet anyway, so i'll parley the Zona and Over.
The Cards are the Steelers West. We know them as well as you think they know us. To the poster that thinks Warner is the best against the blitz in the NFL, You should mean the NFC. He's not seen anything like he's going to see against the Steelers.
The Cards are the Steelers West. We know them as well as you think they know us. To the poster that thinks Warner is the best against the blitz in the NFL, You should mean the NFC. He's not seen anything like he's going to see against the Steelers.
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