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    Ravens-Pats lean and thoughts.. opinions appreciated.

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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 11:40 AM ET #1

    I saw the Giants and Ravens going to the SB but now I have a little doubt after watching the Pats destroy the Broncos, Brady seems like a man on a mission. other than the interception he was flawless all game long. He wanted this chance since the last playoff loss to the Jets. obviously the time off did not affected this team, Bellichick had them prepared and they got a lot of people on their team healthy. they needed that time off. 
    the other thing I can't get out of my head its the Ravens-Chargers game. in that game Rivers teared that defense apart with precision passes, quick passes not allowing the Ravens get near him. and that is something Bellichick will try to do against them and Brady is the man that can do that. He is better than Rivers and has the experience. 
    Every one says the good running opens up the passing game, but I think its the same thing around. a good throwing game will open up a good running game. and the Pats can certainly do that. 

    Now everybody is gonna be talking about the bad game that Ravens offense had, the bad that Flacco looked.. throw that away, don't fall into the hype of the bad that offense looked.. they are not that bad and I think they learned their lesson. they won that game with one of worst offensive displays I have seen in playoffs. that its not going to repeat. they are not going to face the Texans defense or anything close to it. 
    Rice is going to have a good game and its going to be able to run the ball which will open up the passing game to Flacco who will have a much better game. Pats had already faced and stopped Tebow, he was not going to be able to win a shootout against anybody and Bellichick knew that. they are not going to be facing a qb that can't make a throw, there is not even comparison between Flaco's arm and experience and Tebow. 

    A 50 point total is telling you that the Ravens D is not going to hold down Brady and that the Ravens will also be able to move the ball. 

    A good offense and bad defense by the Pats vs. a better than average offense and a good defense. 

    Foxboro is a though place to play and Pats have the advantage with Bellichick and Brady still I think 9 are a lot of points to be getting the Ravens D on a Championship game. kind of leaning on the Ravens as of now, what do you think ? 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I saw the Giants and Ravens going to the SB but now I have a little doubt after watching the Pats destroy the Broncos, Brady seems like a man on a mission. other than the interception he was flawless all game long. He wanted this chance since the last playoff loss to the Jets. obviously the time off did not affected this team, Bellichick had them prepared and they got a lot of people on their team healthy. they needed that time off. 
    the other thing I can't get out of my head its the Ravens-Chargers game. in that game Rivers teared that defense apart with precision passes, quick passes not allowing the Ravens get near him. and that is something Bellichick will try to do against them and Brady is the man that can do that. He is better than Rivers and has the experience. 
    Every one says the good running opens up the passing game, but I think its the same thing around. a good throwing game will open up a good running game. and the Pats can certainly do that. 

    Now everybody is gonna be talking about the bad game that Ravens offense had, the bad that Flacco looked.. throw that away, don't fall into the hype of the bad that offense looked.. they are not that bad and I think they learned their lesson. they won that game with one of worst offensive displays I have seen in playoffs. that its not going to repeat. they are not going to face the Texans defense or anything close to it. 
    Rice is going to have a good game and its going to be able to run the ball which will open up the passing game to Flacco who will have a much better game. Pats had already faced and stopped Tebow, he was not going to be able to win a shootout against anybody and Bellichick knew that. they are not going to be facing a qb that can't make a throw, there is not even comparison between Flaco's arm and experience and Tebow. 

    A 50 point total is telling you that the Ravens D is not going to hold down Brady and that the Ravens will also be able to move the ball. 

    A good offense and bad defense by the Pats vs. a better than average offense and a good defense. 

    Foxboro is a though place to play and Pats have the advantage with Bellichick and Brady still I think 9 are a lot of points to be getting the Ravens D on a Championship game. kind of leaning on the Ravens as of now, what do you think ? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 12:07 PM ET #2

    Brady is on a mission. The ravens are that bad and the pats defense is playing defense now. I think you meant to say an elite offense and respectable defense( as of late) vs an awful passing offense and old veteran defense. Plus the fruity biker village people mustache flaco has on his face right now makes it impossible for me to take his ass seriously. I had the ravens ML yesterday but flaco almost screwed me.
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    Brady is on a mission. The ravens are that bad and the pats defense is playing defense now. I think you meant to say an elite offense and respectable defense( as of late) vs an awful passing offense and old veteran defense. Plus the fruity biker village people mustache flaco has on his face right now makes it impossible for me to take his ass seriously. I had the ravens ML yesterday but flaco almost screwed me.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 1:58 PM ET #3

    I feel like the pats are on a mission win the sb. They still have that bad taste in their mouth from the crushing defeat of sb 2007.

    Bob Kraft wants a suberbowl win. Yes I agree Brady and Beliichick are on a serious mission right ow and very focused.
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    I feel like the pats are on a mission win the sb. They still have that bad taste in their mouth from the crushing defeat of sb 2007.

    Bob Kraft wants a suberbowl win. Yes I agree Brady and Beliichick are on a serious mission right ow and very focused.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 2:10 PM ET #4

    Keep in mind that the Ravens best corner, Ladarius Webb, did not play against the Chargers.  Rivers kept picking on the rookie Jimmy Smith in that game. 
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    Keep in mind that the Ravens best corner, Ladarius Webb, did not play against the Chargers.  Rivers kept picking on the rookie Jimmy Smith in that game. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 3:37 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksorbetter:

    Keep in mind that the Ravens best corner, Ladarius Webb, did not play against the Chargers.  Rivers kept picking on the rookie Jimmy Smith in that game. 


    That is a very good point and I bet alot of people are forgetting about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksorbetter:

    Keep in mind that the Ravens best corner, Ladarius Webb, did not play against the Chargers.  Rivers kept picking on the rookie Jimmy Smith in that game. 


    That is a very good point and I bet alot of people are forgetting about that.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 3:46 PM ET #6

    I love the points but can I expect Flacco to trade points with Brady.  He has looked so bad.  Then he is good for a crucial error, with that I leave you>
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    I love the points but can I expect Flacco to trade points with Brady.  He has looked so bad.  Then he is good for a crucial error, with that I leave you>
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 4:11 PM ET #7

    The Patriots D has turned the corner allowing 24 points 2nd half since the 4th quarter vs Indy.
    What does this mean? It means you bet the Patriots and more importantly you bet the Patriots in the 2nd half.
    Also before placing your money on the Ravens understand when the game is on the line in the 2nd half they don't score. Check out their 2nd half scoring throughout their playoff runs.
    No injuries for the Patriots and they've been or missing key players in recent playoff departures.
    Believe me I'd love to bet against New England but unfortunately I won't.
    Lastly, have you noticed how much better the Pat's D has been playing since they dumped that cancer Hainesworth? I have!
    Pats 41- 13
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    The Patriots D has turned the corner allowing 24 points 2nd half since the 4th quarter vs Indy.
    What does this mean? It means you bet the Patriots and more importantly you bet the Patriots in the 2nd half.
    Also before placing your money on the Ravens understand when the game is on the line in the 2nd half they don't score. Check out their 2nd half scoring throughout their playoff runs.
    No injuries for the Patriots and they've been or missing key players in recent playoff departures.
    Believe me I'd love to bet against New England but unfortunately I won't.
    Lastly, have you noticed how much better the Pat's D has been playing since they dumped that cancer Hainesworth? I have!
    Pats 41- 13
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 4:30 PM ET #8

    I have a feeling that Ravens will go to Gil lets Stadium...beat New England by 3 points. Why?... here are my reasons: Very simple!

    Going against the most popular favorite team within each round. 2-0 so far.....

    Wildcard Round
    ....Pittsburgh were the most popular team for that week....Denver upset them .....Over also cashed in!

    Divisional Round...
    .......Green Bay were the most popular team for last week. ....Giants upset them.....Over also cashed in!

    Conference Championship Round.........New England are the most popular team for this weekend Sunday coming.....Ravens will upset them ??...Over also will cashed also.

    My point is each round there is one or two upset per week!! and this week there will be New England Patriots!..


    GL


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    I have a feeling that Ravens will go to Gil lets Stadium...beat New England by 3 points. Why?... here are my reasons: Very simple!

    Going against the most popular favorite team within each round. 2-0 so far.....

    Wildcard Round
    ....Pittsburgh were the most popular team for that week....Denver upset them .....Over also cashed in!

    Divisional Round...
    .......Green Bay were the most popular team for last week. ....Giants upset them.....Over also cashed in!

    Conference Championship Round.........New England are the most popular team for this weekend Sunday coming.....Ravens will upset them ??...Over also will cashed also.

    My point is each round there is one or two upset per week!! and this week there will be New England Patriots!..


    GL


     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 6:53 PM ET #9

    Do you really want to bet on Joe Flacco in a road game?

    The Ravens are 1-6 all time vs NE
    Flacco has 6td's and 7 Int's for his career in the playoffs.

    In my opinion this is exactly the type of game Flacco craps the bed.

    Also, the vaunted Ravens defense gave up 136 yards rushing to Foster.
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    Do you really want to bet on Joe Flacco in a road game?

    The Ravens are 1-6 all time vs NE
    Flacco has 6td's and 7 Int's for his career in the playoffs.

    In my opinion this is exactly the type of game Flacco craps the bed.

    Also, the vaunted Ravens defense gave up 136 yards rushing to Foster.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 7:01 PM ET #10

    look at what matt moore and grossman did to the pats in dec

    this defense has not turned any corners and should not be giving any teams in the playoffs that has a winning record anything close to this

    denver was a gift wrapped special for brady and bill b

    flacco thorws for 250+ , ray rice 140 total yds , torrey smith over the top , defense does eneough and ravens win

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    look at what matt moore and grossman did to the pats in dec

    this defense has not turned any corners and should not be giving any teams in the playoffs that has a winning record anything close to this

    denver was a gift wrapped special for brady and bill b

    flacco thorws for 250+ , ray rice 140 total yds , torrey smith over the top , defense does eneough and ravens win

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 7:07 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by chasingpaper:

    I love the points but can I expect Flacco to trade points with Brady.  He has looked so bad.  Then he is good for a crucial error, with that I leave you>



    it hard too judge him by the last game he played the number 2 defense in the league . The texans defense is very very good i think people are over looking that . The pats defense ranked 31st will be a different game for ravens offense and these great offense like saints , packers , got shut down by good defense pats are gonna have there hands full here ml play for me in this spot.Ravens will control this clock and run run and keep brady off the field same thing pitt did too them earlier this year and crushed them different game this week against a totally different defense
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasingpaper:

    I love the points but can I expect Flacco to trade points with Brady.  He has looked so bad.  Then he is good for a crucial error, with that I leave you>



    it hard too judge him by the last game he played the number 2 defense in the league . The texans defense is very very good i think people are over looking that . The pats defense ranked 31st will be a different game for ravens offense and these great offense like saints , packers , got shut down by good defense pats are gonna have there hands full here ml play for me in this spot.Ravens will control this clock and run run and keep brady off the field same thing pitt did too them earlier this year and crushed them different game this week against a totally different defense
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2012 - 7:49 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Do you really want to bet on Joe Flacco in a road game?

    The Ravens are 1-6 all time vs NE
    Flacco has 6td's and 7 Int's for his career in the playoffs.

    In my opinion this is exactly the type of game Flacco craps the bed.

    Also, the vaunted Ravens defense gave up 136 yards rushing to Foster.


    While the Ravens are 1-6 all-time against NE, Flacco is 1-3. Not great, but not bad. Also, I think they covered most of the time, if not every time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Do you really want to bet on Joe Flacco in a road game?

    The Ravens are 1-6 all time vs NE
    Flacco has 6td's and 7 Int's for his career in the playoffs.

    In my opinion this is exactly the type of game Flacco craps the bed.

    Also, the vaunted Ravens defense gave up 136 yards rushing to Foster.


    While the Ravens are 1-6 all-time against NE, Flacco is 1-3. Not great, but not bad. Also, I think they covered most of the time, if not every time?
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