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Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

 

You're not dictating this tough guy. You've got the big mouth. Get your money in there today.



I dictate everything in your little world junior, you will find this out the losing way..............
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

Really? Name 3 people by name who asked you. You're full of shit. In fact, most on this site have repeatedly asked you to stop. You just can't. ***EXTRA HUGE PLAY OF THE CENTURY***

How is a $1,000 HUGE.....a $5,000 HUGE.....a $7,000 HUGE. You're a guy who has nothing in real life. I'm pretty sure about that.

Now come back with your little  emotiocon telling me how much I amuse you and how I have no life but to critiicize you. Its all part of the PTB fantasy world playbook.


As opposed to the BigNiner playbook (and by the way, the whole bigniner name thing is funny - like a guy buying a sportscar to compensate for something small...).

BigNiner's playbook...


Tell everyone you are smarter than they are... (sort of like telling people that you've been with 1,000 women, we know this isn't true)

Insult people who don't agree with you.  I'm sure you learned this at Harvard or Stanford...

Continue to state others don't have lives while you post dozens of insult laden posts - which clearly shows you have nothing better to do with your time...

And I'm sure if I looked hard enough, I could find threads that you were an internet tough guy threatening people if they ever came to your neck of the woods.

How ... cliche.

You have been weighed.  You have been measured.  And you have been found wanting.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by _keyser_soze_:

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No you simply hijack other threads - and when you do it - you act like a fucking asshole.  Which is a cry for help.  OR, you make absurd statements like you are smarter and better educated than everyone else at Covers (false by the way) or that you need a sample size of 30 to be considered relevant - which is a fucking joke.  The size of the sample depends on NUMEROUS things - so to state that 30 is the minimum required is as full of shit as any of your other insult laden threads.

Talk about an attention seeking person.  You're it...




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100% correct! 
 
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Go niners-12-2 @ 86% for the playoffs. Me and a friend were talking about the early line and think we will see a lot of public money on the Giants bringing this line down below 2. who knows maybe it can drop to a 1 or pk game.
 
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The record is actually 2-16 SU since 1970 for teams that are coming off a playoff win over the defending champs, but 0-14 if it is either the divisional or conf championship round, thus excluding Superbowl games....

Here are the games that qualify:

1971-72:  Miami beat Baltimore (defending Champs), and lost next game

1974-75:  Oakland beat Miami (defending Champs), and lost next game

1976-77:  Oakland beat Pittsburgh (defending Champs) and won next game

1977-78:  Denver beat Oakland (defending Champ) and lost next game

1984-85:  Seattle beat Oakland (defending Champ) and lost next game

1985-86:  Giants beat San Fran (defending Champs) and lost next game

1986-87:  Washington beat Chicago (defending Champs) and lost next game

1990-91:  Giants beat San Fran (defending Champs) and lost next game

1992-93:  San Francisco beat Washington (defending Champs) and lost next game

1994-95:  San Francisco beat Dallas (defending Champs) and won next game

1995-96:  Green Bay beat San Francisco (defending Champs) and lost next game

 

1996-97:  Carolina beat Dallas (defending Champs) and lost next game

2000-01:  New Orleans beat St Louis (defending champs) and lost next game

2001-02:  Pittsburgh beat Baltimore (defending champs) and lost next game

2005-06:  Denver beat New England (defending champs) and lost next game

2007-08:  San Diego beat Indy (defending champs) and lost next game

2008-09:  Philadelphia beat NY Giants (defending champs) and lost next game

2010-11:  Seattle beat New Orelans (defending champs) and lost next game

 
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Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

7-4 Playoffs  +11.15 units

 Teams to beat the defending SB champs in the playoffs have NEVER won their next playoff game. 

So is that true or false??
 
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2-16 overall, but NEVER is true if you exclude SB games....0-14 in conference championship or divisional round of playoffs
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dussaulr:

The record is actually 2-16 SU since 1970 for teams that are coming off a playoff win over the defending champs, but 0-14 if it is either the divisional or conf championship round, thus excluding Superbowl games....

Here are the games that qualify:

1971-72:  Miami beat Baltimore (defending Champs), and lost next game

1974-75:  Oakland beat Miami (defending Champs), and lost next game

1976-77:  Oakland beat Pittsburgh (defending Champs) and won next game

1977-78:  Denver beat Oakland (defending Champ) and lost next game

1984-85:  Seattle beat Oakland (defending Champ) and lost next game

1985-86:  Giants beat San Fran (defending Champs) and lost next game

1986-87:  Washington beat Chicago (defending Champs) and lost next game

1990-91:  Giants beat San Fran (defending Champs) and lost next game

1992-93:  San Francisco beat Washington (defending Champs) and lost next game

1994-95:  San Francisco beat Dallas (defending Champs) and won next game

1995-96:  Green Bay beat San Francisco (defending Champs) and lost next game

 

1996-97:  Carolina beat Dallas (defending Champs) and lost next game

2000-01:  New Orleans beat St Louis (defending champs) and lost next game

2001-02:  Pittsburgh beat Baltimore (defending champs) and lost next game

2005-06:  Denver beat New England (defending champs) and lost next game

2007-08:  San Diego beat Indy (defending champs) and lost next game

2008-09:  Philadelphia beat NY Giants (defending champs) and lost next game

2010-11:  Seattle beat New Orelans (defending champs) and lost next game



Excellent work my friend.........someone put the time & effort into finding great information dating back to 1970, wow! 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dussaulr:

2-16 overall, but NEVER is true if you exclude SB games....0-14 in conference championship or divisional round of playoffs


The system I have is to always exclude the super bowl............I guess figuring the bowl means a lot to both teams, I dont know...............
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:



Excellent work my friend.........someone put the time & effort into finding great information dating back to 1970, wow! 

No worries man....I like to handicap the natural emotional ups and downs that ALL teams and athletes experience.  In this case, teams coming off a win over the defending champions obviously put our an outstanding effort, and expending a significant amount of emotion during and especially after the game.  It's hard to rebound from that in a week.  What's more, coming off such an impressive win means they hear all week from the talking heads how great they are, and are almost handed the SB trophy by all those talking heads on TV and radio...and yes, the players listen (don't believe otherwise)

 
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Quote Originally Posted by dussaulr:

The record is actually 2-16 SU since 1970 for teams that are coming off a playoff win over the defending champs, but 0-14 if it is either the divisional or conf championship round, thus excluding Superbowl games....

Here are the games that qualify:

1971-72:  Miami beat Baltimore (defending Champs), and lost next game

1974-75:  Oakland beat Miami (defending Champs), and lost next game

1976-77:  Oakland beat Pittsburgh (defending Champs) and won next game

1977-78:  Denver beat Oakland (defending Champ) and lost next game

1984-85:  Seattle beat Oakland (defending Champ) and lost next game

1985-86:  Giants beat San Fran (defending Champs) and lost next game

1986-87:  Washington beat Chicago (defending Champs) and lost next game

1990-91:  Giants beat San Fran (defending Champs) and WON next game

1992-93:  San Francisco beat Washington (defending Champs) and lost next game

1994-95:  San Francisco beat Dallas (defending Champs) and won next game

1995-96:  Green Bay beat San Francisco (defending Champs) and lost next game

 

1996-97:  Carolina beat Dallas (defending Champs) and lost next game

2000-01:  New Orleans beat St Louis (defending champs) and lost next game

2001-02:  Pittsburgh beat Baltimore (defending champs) and lost next game

2005-06:  Denver beat New England (defending champs) and lost next game

2007-08:  San Diego beat Indy (defending champs) and lost next game

2008-09:  Philadelphia beat NY Giants (defending champs) and lost next game

2010-11:  Seattle beat New Orelans (defending champs) and lost next game

 
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Posted: #87
Just another trend.

The giants are playoff savy ESP. ROAD playoff savy TOTALLY COMFORTABLE ON THE ROAD and will show that when they control the game on sunday vs the happy to be there, extremly overachieving 49ers, who should not be fav. but thank you very much.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by dussaulr:

The record is actually 2-16 SU since 1970 for teams that are coming off a playoff win over the defending champs, but 0-14 if it is either the divisional or conf championship round, thus excluding Superbowl games....

Here are the games that qualify:

1971-72:  Miami beat Baltimore (defending Champs), and lost next game

1974-75:  Oakland beat Miami (defending Champs), and lost next game

1976-77:  Oakland beat Pittsburgh (defending Champs) and won next game

1977-78:  Denver beat Oakland (defending Champ) and lost next game

1984-85:  Seattle beat Oakland (defending Champ) and lost next game

1985-86:  Giants beat San Fran (defending Champs) and lost next game

1986-87:  Washington beat Chicago (defending Champs) and lost next game

1990-91:  Giants beat San Fran (defending Champs) and lost next game

1992-93:  San Francisco beat Washington (defending Champs) and lost next game

1994-95:  San Francisco beat Dallas (defending Champs) and won next game

1995-96:  Green Bay beat San Francisco (defending Champs) and lost next game

 

1996-97:  Carolina beat Dallas (defending Champs) and lost next game

2000-01:  New Orleans beat St Louis (defending champs) and lost next game

2001-02:  Pittsburgh beat Baltimore (defending champs) and lost next game

2005-06:  Denver beat New England (defending champs) and lost next game

2007-08:  San Diego beat Indy (defending champs) and lost next game

2008-09:  Philadelphia beat NY Giants (defending champs) and lost next game

2010-11:  Seattle beat New Orelans (defending champs) and lost next game

Thanks for looking this up.  There might be something to this trend.  The ultimate question is whether the Giants will have an emotional letdown after beating 15-1 Green Bay, defending champ, on the road. Perhaps.  But it's a veteran team w/ plenty of experience. 

That being said, when you look @ this trend itself, there's way too many examples of just losing to a better team. Take 92-93 for instance. The defending champ Redskins were the #6 seed.  SF was the #1 seed. Dallas was the #2 seed.  I don't think SF got overconfident, emotionally spent, etc, etc, disposing of the #6 seed defending champs so they overlooked the #2 Cowboys.  SF just lost to a better team.  Period. 

In many of these examples, the team that beats the team beating the defending champ, ultimately wins the Super Bowl.  That just means they were the best team that season. 

Either way, it's a useful data point to consider, so thanks for looking this up.

 
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One more example  - look @ 2007-08 San Diego.  Sure, they beat Indy, but then they lost to NE.  NE was 16-0 that season.  SD was a 14.5 pt dog.  That SD team lost Tomlinson, their MVP, too.  Even then, they still covered, losing 21-12.

Again, just an example of losing to a better team.

 

 
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Yes NY Giants won their next game in 1990/1991 after beating defending champs SF  BUT that next game was the SB.  The trend is stating in another post  matchup before the actual SB.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

Yes NY Giants won their next game in 1990/1991 after beating defending champs SF  BUT that next game was the SB.  The trend is stating in another post  matchup before the actual SB.

He included it in the 2-16 SU record, the same as he did the 1994 Niners.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

He included it in the 2-16 SU record, the same as he did the 1994 Niners.

Ok 2-16 Su    0-14 SU if it's not the SB 
 
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this trend is such bull$hit and if thats why u take sf or cause of an emotional rollercoaster thats just dumb. Giants will win next week shutting down sfs offense and eli will fling the ball down the field all day on sf.
 
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Haha this trend is stupid  your going to ignore 20+ years of history? Go ahead and waste your $. 
 
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Since '99 teams teams with a better rushing offense in the regular season are 21-3 ATS in championship games.  advantage  SF and Baltimore

Teams that were a 7 pt or more dog and won in a divisional playoff game are 2-8 SU in championship games.  advantage SF
 
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The NYG are 4-0 in nfc championship games

That should make up for the rest of the stupidity about games years and years ago (just like the NYG) in this thread.

Both are irrelivant
 
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Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

Since '99 teams teams with a better rushing offense in the regular season are 21-3 ATS in championship games.  advantage  SF and Baltimore

Teams that were a 7 pt or more dog and won in a divisional playoff game are 2-8 SU in championship games.  advantage SF

Those bold words stand out not just a trend, they reflect performance on matchups as well. Good luck, bud!  

 
 
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WOW.....first of all.....to make a wager based off a stupid trend like this, shows your just looking for any excuse for something or someone to point you in the right direction. Second, you are not 7-4 in the playoffs you lost Cinncinatti, Detroit, Pittsburgh,New Orleans, Denver and Baltimore you lying chump.....plus a shit load of under overs, your a sith....a horrible capper......in fact the only games you have won are with the Giants....you've won 2 playoff games and you start this thread off with a bullshit record.....you make me bash your threads cause your such a fucking liar.....I'm from New York and everybody here has been cashing in off the Giants,.....but like I have pointed out in your past bullshit threads....you are a mush.....a sith....a constant loser....anyone out there looking for someone to fade.....heres your man....take it while you can, look at his past threads, hes a jinx.....I know, I know, you didn't make the picks right you jerk off, Billy Walters gave them to you.....hate seeing your bullshit on here and I will commence the asskicking.....SITHKILLER, your friendly neighborhood mush finder!!!!
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