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    Is Myra Krafts' Death A Motivator in the Superbowl?

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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 3:27 PM ET #1

    I simply do not understand this angle. I understand having sorrow for another person's demise. We will all walk the lonesome valley of death one day.

    She was the big boss' wife and all... yeah I get that and what it means especially to the obsequious bootlickers in Kraft's circle and for the ones who truly care about his well being who are more than likely family members and personal friends.

    The players wore her initials on their jerseys this year... yeah ok a nice touch.

    I remember an emotional win by the Giants after Wellington Mara crossed over. Are the deaths of the top one percenters more tragic than the deaths of the ninety nine percenters? Is it the fallacy of the 'sacred blood'?

    Are there any insights out there on this one? Please do share if you have any thoughts on this matter?

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    I simply do not understand this angle. I understand having sorrow for another person's demise. We will all walk the lonesome valley of death one day.

    She was the big boss' wife and all... yeah I get that and what it means especially to the obsequious bootlickers in Kraft's circle and for the ones who truly care about his well being who are more than likely family members and personal friends.

    The players wore her initials on their jerseys this year... yeah ok a nice touch.

    I remember an emotional win by the Giants after Wellington Mara crossed over. Are the deaths of the top one percenters more tragic than the deaths of the ninety nine percenters? Is it the fallacy of the 'sacred blood'?

    Are there any insights out there on this one? Please do share if you have any thoughts on this matter?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 3:34 PM ET #2

    Anytime the family that signs your check has a loss in the same year you are in the Superbowl, I believe it has an impact in a positive way.

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    Anytime the family that signs your check has a loss in the same year you are in the Superbowl, I believe it has an impact in a positive way.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 4:03 PM ET #3

    Of course it does.

    Didn't you know that when Tom Brady takes the snap and has less than 2 or 3 seconds to scan the field, avoid the pressure and make a solid throw, all he is thinking about is " I miss Myra Kraft, what a wonderful lady she was. I am going to try and win this game for her!!!"
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    Of course it does.

    Didn't you know that when Tom Brady takes the snap and has less than 2 or 3 seconds to scan the field, avoid the pressure and make a solid throw, all he is thinking about is " I miss Myra Kraft, what a wonderful lady she was. I am going to try and win this game for her!!!"
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 4:07 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    Of course it does.

    Didn't you know that when Tom Brady takes the snap and has less than 2 or 3 seconds to scan the field, avoid the pressure and make a solid throw, all he is thinking about is " I miss Myra Kraft, what a wonderful lady she was. I am going to try and win this game for her!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:

    Of course it does.

    Didn't you know that when Tom Brady takes the snap and has less than 2 or 3 seconds to scan the field, avoid the pressure and make a solid throw, all he is thinking about is " I miss Myra Kraft, what a wonderful lady she was. I am going to try and win this game for her!!!"

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 4:16 PM ET #5

    When Wellington Mara died in 2005, the Giants didnt even win the 1st playoff game of that season.............Mr Kraft is a big shot in the NFL but the only thing that scares me is Belichick's record of never losing twice in the same season to the same team.............I like the Giants & dont care what the pubic is on in this game.
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    When Wellington Mara died in 2005, the Giants didnt even win the 1st playoff game of that season.............Mr Kraft is a big shot in the NFL but the only thing that scares me is Belichick's record of never losing twice in the same season to the same team.............I like the Giants & dont care what the pubic is on in this game.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 4:21 PM ET #6

    It's an absolute joke.

    Myra Kraft didn't even want Bob Kraft to buy the team.  She's a diminutive woman who doesn't know anything about football.

    But if you're the owner, you can get your slaves to wear patches in remembrance of that rich woman.

    It's disgraceful IMO.  It's embrassing.  But the players care, as I would, because you care about who signs your paycheck-as somebody here already said.
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    It's an absolute joke.

    Myra Kraft didn't even want Bob Kraft to buy the team.  She's a diminutive woman who doesn't know anything about football.

    But if you're the owner, you can get your slaves to wear patches in remembrance of that rich woman.

    It's disgraceful IMO.  It's embrassing.  But the players care, as I would, because you care about who signs your paycheck-as somebody here already said.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 4:22 PM ET #7

    As for motivation, IMO it does the opposite, or nothing at all.  Playing for Myra Kraft is an absolute joke.
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    As for motivation, IMO it does the opposite, or nothing at all.  Playing for Myra Kraft is an absolute joke.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 5:10 PM ET #8

    People think it is but in reality I doubt it has much of an effect. I mean Kraft is close to the team so maybe it does, but it's not like either of these teams need any more motivation....the better team will win
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    People think it is but in reality I doubt it has much of an effect. I mean Kraft is close to the team so maybe it does, but it's not like either of these teams need any more motivation....the better team will win
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 5:23 PM ET #9

    Agree not much of an effect at all.

    I think Katrina had an effect on the Saints.

    But nobody gives a sh1t about Myra Kraft other than the Kraft family and her friends
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    Agree not much of an effect at all.

    I think Katrina had an effect on the Saints.

    But nobody gives a sh1t about Myra Kraft other than the Kraft family and her friends
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 5:35 PM ET #10

    If the pats win its a miracle from Myra
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    If the pats win its a miracle from Myra
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 5:41 PM ET #11

    It's far different from playing for an entire city like the Saints did.
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    It's far different from playing for an entire city like the Saints did.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 6:46 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:



    nobody gives a sh1t about Myra Kraft other than the Kraft family and her friends


    But dude, Mrs. Kraft used to bake the best chocolate chip cookies growing up 
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:



    nobody gives a sh1t about Myra Kraft other than the Kraft family and her friends


    But dude, Mrs. Kraft used to bake the best chocolate chip cookies growing up 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Agree not much of an effect at all.


    I think Katrina had an effect on the Saints.

    But nobody gives a sh1t about Myra Kraft other than the Kraft family and her friends


    You should probably do some research before you go running your mouth and sound like an asshole. She lived a lifetime of philanthropy, given more in her pinky toe then you will in your entire life. 

    Yes, it's a motivating factor. Will it affect play on the field? Probably not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Agree not much of an effect at all.


    I think Katrina had an effect on the Saints.

    But nobody gives a sh1t about Myra Kraft other than the Kraft family and her friends


    You should probably do some research before you go running your mouth and sound like an asshole. She lived a lifetime of philanthropy, given more in her pinky toe then you will in your entire life. 

    Yes, it's a motivating factor. Will it affect play on the field? Probably not?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 7:01 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by BostonStrangler:



    You should probably do some research before you go running your mouth and sound like an asshole. She lived a lifetime of philanthropy, given more in her pinky toe then you will in your entire life. 


    Agreed. I've been reading some of Budwisers posts. The dude is a complete douche bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonStrangler:



    You should probably do some research before you go running your mouth and sound like an asshole. She lived a lifetime of philanthropy, given more in her pinky toe then you will in your entire life. 


    Agreed. I've been reading some of Budwisers posts. The dude is a complete douche bag.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 7:10 PM ET #15

    YES ITS MOTIVATION, on top of that BRADY AND BILLL WANT THIS ONE REALLLLLY BAD.
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    YES ITS MOTIVATION, on top of that BRADY AND BILLL WANT THIS ONE REALLLLLY BAD.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonStrangler:



    You should probably do some research before you go running your mouth and sound like an asshole. She lived a lifetime of philanthropy, given more in her pinky toe then you will in your entire life. 

    Yes, it's a motivating factor. Will it affect play on the field? Probably not?


    So what.  She's a rich spoiled woman.  I'm sure she can run the United Way and all kinds of charities, go home and make sure the maid has the house all made and the nanny took care of the kids.

    She had nothing to do with football, other than banning a player from playing for the Patriots (and it turns out the NFL) because of supposed violence against women.

    The idea that football players, who are busy going after Kyle Williams because he had a bunch of concussions, should play for a rich woman who can run a soup kitchen, is beyond stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonStrangler:



    You should probably do some research before you go running your mouth and sound like an asshole. She lived a lifetime of philanthropy, given more in her pinky toe then you will in your entire life. 

    Yes, it's a motivating factor. Will it affect play on the field? Probably not?


    So what.  She's a rich spoiled woman.  I'm sure she can run the United Way and all kinds of charities, go home and make sure the maid has the house all made and the nanny took care of the kids.

    She had nothing to do with football, other than banning a player from playing for the Patriots (and it turns out the NFL) because of supposed violence against women.

    The idea that football players, who are busy going after Kyle Williams because he had a bunch of concussions, should play for a rich woman who can run a soup kitchen, is beyond stupid.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbopu5:



    Agreed. I've been reading some of Budwisers posts. The dude is a complete douche bag.


    And thanks to you too *sshole by the way do you have an opinion on anythign other than I suck?
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    Agreed. I've been reading some of Budwisers posts. The dude is a complete douche bag.


    And thanks to you too *sshole by the way do you have an opinion on anythign other than I suck?
     
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    Myra Kraft

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    Myra Hiatt Kraft (née Myra Nathalie Hiatt; December 27, 1942 – July 20, 2011[1]) was an American philanthropist. She was the daughter of the late Worcester philanthropist Jacob Hiatt and wife of New England Patriots and New England Revolution owner Robert Kraft.

    Born in Worcester, Massachusetts, she was a 1964 graduate of Brandeis University. Kraft was listed by Boston Magazine as one of the 20 Most Powerful Women in Boston,[2] She was president and director of the New England Patriots Charitable Foundation and trustee of the Robert K. and Myra H. Kraft Foundation. She served on the boards of directors of the American Repertory Theatre, the United Way of Massachusetts Bay, Northeastern University, the Boys and Girls Clubs of Boston, and Brandeis University.[2] She and her husband donated millions of dollars to the Kraft Stadium to promote American football in Jerusalem.[2]

    She was known to have intervened in the operations of her husband's teams only once, when shortly after the 1996 NFL Draft, she learned that the Patriots' fifth-round choice, Christian Peter of Nebraska, had a lengthy history of violence against women. At Myra's insistence, the Patriots relinquished Peter's rights only a week after the draft.[3]

    The International Herald Tribune credited Myra Kraft with “modeling a new form of engaged giving that is transforming the relationship between philanthropist and philanthropy,”[4] and the Boston Globe stated she was "forging a whole new form of engaged giving.”[4]

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    Myra Kraft

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    Myra Hiatt Kraft (née Myra Nathalie Hiatt; December 27, 1942 – July 20, 2011[1]) was an American philanthropist. She was the daughter of the late Worcester philanthropist Jacob Hiatt and wife of New England Patriots and New England Revolution owner Robert Kraft.

    Born in Worcester, Massachusetts, she was a 1964 graduate of Brandeis University. Kraft was listed by Boston Magazine as one of the 20 Most Powerful Women in Boston,[2] She was president and director of the New England Patriots Charitable Foundation and trustee of the Robert K. and Myra H. Kraft Foundation. She served on the boards of directors of the American Repertory Theatre, the United Way of Massachusetts Bay, Northeastern University, the Boys and Girls Clubs of Boston, and Brandeis University.[2] She and her husband donated millions of dollars to the Kraft Stadium to promote American football in Jerusalem.[2]

    She was known to have intervened in the operations of her husband's teams only once, when shortly after the 1996 NFL Draft, she learned that the Patriots' fifth-round choice, Christian Peter of Nebraska, had a lengthy history of violence against women. At Myra's insistence, the Patriots relinquished Peter's rights only a week after the draft.[3]

    The International Herald Tribune credited Myra Kraft with “modeling a new form of engaged giving that is transforming the relationship between philanthropist and philanthropy,”[4] and the Boston Globe stated she was "forging a whole new form of engaged giving.”[4]

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 7:48 PM ET #19

    You won't have me crying for the rich and famous any time soon kid....
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    You won't have me crying for the rich and famous any time soon kid....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 7:49 PM ET #20

    And I'm glad she spent a lifetime promoting American football in Jerusalem, now that's a worthy cause
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 8:03 PM ET #21

    Budweiser, you strike me as an extremely insecure jealous individual
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 8:08 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBallDontLie:

    Budweiser, you strike me as an extremely insecure jealous individual


    Just call me an *sshole and most of my friends and I would agree with you
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    Budweiser, you strike me as an extremely insecure jealous individual


    Just call me an *sshole and most of my friends and I would agree with you
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 11:40 PM ET #23

    I appreciate the responses. IMO, I do not understand how her passing would be a major factor in whether New England wins or loses.




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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 11:56 PM ET #24

    Wont mean shit once the ball is kicked off but you know very well that the assholes in the media will be doing their part to remind us about Myra Kraft and how the Pats won for her spirit and a whole lotta yada yada. Ofcourse they'd have to win first. 
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2012 - 11:58 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by BostonStrangler:



    You should probably do some research before you go running your mouth and sound like an asshole. She lived a lifetime of philanthropy, given more in her pinky toe then you will in your entire life. 

    Yes, it's a motivating factor. Will it affect play on the field? Probably not?

    It easy to give when you are using someone elses money.

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    You should probably do some research before you go running your mouth and sound like an asshole. She lived a lifetime of philanthropy, given more in her pinky toe then you will in your entire life. 

    Yes, it's a motivating factor. Will it affect play on the field? Probably not?

    It easy to give when you are using someone elses money.

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