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    Feds Bust Internet Gambling Ring (datawager.com and betwestsports.com)

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    Feds Bust Internet Gambling Ring 


    A Costa Rican operation used U.S. bookmakers to recruit bettors.



    The government continued its crackdown on Internet gambling Jan. 7 with the indictments of 12 people for operating a Costa Rica-based wagering Web site and telephone call center that catered to sports bookmakers in the United States.


    According to the indictments, Carmen "Buddy" Cicalese operated what is known as a wireroom in Costa Rica that charged U.S. bookmakers weekly fees of $15 to $30 for each gambler the bookies registered with the wireroom. In return, registered gamblers were able to place bets on sporting events at odds set by the Cicalese wireroom.

    The gamblers placed the bets through a toll-free number and Web sites operated by Cicalese, including datawager.com and betwestsports.com. The Cicalese operation hoped to evade U.S. law by not taking an interest in the outcome of the wagers. Paying winners and losers was the responsibility of the U.S. bookies.

    In turn, the bookies typically paid the Cicalese U.S. operatives by using couriers, debit cards and electronic funds transfers.

    The indictments allege the Cicalese wireroom serviced several hundred U.S. bookies, each of whom had registered numerous gambling customers, and received millions of dollars in wagers.

    All 12 defendants were charged with gambling and conspiracy to engage in gambling. Carmen and Patrick Cicalese, along with Julius Migdal, were also charged with conspiracy to commit money laundering.

    Federal authorities arrested eight of the individuals named in the indictments. Carmen Cicalese remains at large.

    Under U.S. law, it is illegal for citizens to use the Internet to place a wager except for state-sanctioned horse racing and lottery sites. In December, the United States reached an agreement with the European Union, Japan and Canada to keep the U.S. Internet gambling market closed to foreign companies.

    The agreement followed a World Trade Organization ruling that the United States was violating trade agreements by closing the U.S. gambling market while still sanctioning U.S. online wagering through state sites. The United States responded by offering more generous trade concessions in other areas.
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    Feds Bust Internet Gambling Ring 


    A Costa Rican operation used U.S. bookmakers to recruit bettors.



    The government continued its crackdown on Internet gambling Jan. 7 with the indictments of 12 people for operating a Costa Rica-based wagering Web site and telephone call center that catered to sports bookmakers in the United States.


    According to the indictments, Carmen "Buddy" Cicalese operated what is known as a wireroom in Costa Rica that charged U.S. bookmakers weekly fees of $15 to $30 for each gambler the bookies registered with the wireroom. In return, registered gamblers were able to place bets on sporting events at odds set by the Cicalese wireroom.

    The gamblers placed the bets through a toll-free number and Web sites operated by Cicalese, including datawager.com and betwestsports.com. The Cicalese operation hoped to evade U.S. law by not taking an interest in the outcome of the wagers. Paying winners and losers was the responsibility of the U.S. bookies.

    In turn, the bookies typically paid the Cicalese U.S. operatives by using couriers, debit cards and electronic funds transfers.

    The indictments allege the Cicalese wireroom serviced several hundred U.S. bookies, each of whom had registered numerous gambling customers, and received millions of dollars in wagers.

    All 12 defendants were charged with gambling and conspiracy to engage in gambling. Carmen and Patrick Cicalese, along with Julius Migdal, were also charged with conspiracy to commit money laundering.

    Federal authorities arrested eight of the individuals named in the indictments. Carmen Cicalese remains at large.

    Under U.S. law, it is illegal for citizens to use the Internet to place a wager except for state-sanctioned horse racing and lottery sites. In December, the United States reached an agreement with the European Union, Japan and Canada to keep the U.S. Internet gambling market closed to foreign companies.

    The agreement followed a World Trade Organization ruling that the United States was violating trade agreements by closing the U.S. gambling market while still sanctioning U.S. online wagering through state sites. The United States responded by offering more generous trade concessions in other areas.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 6:49 PM ET #2

    If gambling is illegal then what are we all doing? It is not that hard to find these sites,they are not hidden from the feds. So what's the deal with this?
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    If gambling is illegal then what are we all doing? It is not that hard to find these sites,they are not hidden from the feds. So what's the deal with this?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckSteve:

    If gambling is illegal then what are we all doing? It is not that hard to find these sites,they are not hidden from the feds. So what's the deal with this?

     

     are you serious, you must be joking right...

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    If gambling is illegal then what are we all doing? It is not that hard to find these sites,they are not hidden from the feds. So what's the deal with this?

     

     are you serious, you must be joking right...

     
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    I love how you can buy lottery tickets until you are blue in the face - yea' lets see another commercial or billboard promoting those!, but you can't legally bet on a football game in the majority of America.  Fuck off.
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    I love how you can buy lottery tickets until you are blue in the face - yea' lets see another commercial or billboard promoting those!, but you can't legally bet on a football game in the majority of America.  Fuck off.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 8:05 PM ET #6

    What a bunch of shit.  Don't we have more important things to worry about (a war, economy, etc...) than betting on sports?  
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    What a bunch of shit.  Don't we have more important things to worry about (a war, economy, etc...) than betting on sports?  
     
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    America - land of the anti-gambling facists and home of the cowered bettors
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    America - land of the anti-gambling facists and home of the cowered bettors
     
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    That is absolute incorrect - and by the way very common - information about the legality of placing a bet online.
     
    It is absolutely 100% legal for US citizens to place a wager online at the federal level.  Some states have laws regarding internet wagering, but nobody has ever been tried for it.
     
    It is very common for these articles to get the facts wrong.  This one is another example in a long line of politically motivated misinformation.
     
    IT IS 100% LEGAL TO PLACE AN INTERNET WAGER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
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    That is absolute incorrect - and by the way very common - information about the legality of placing a bet online.
     
    It is absolutely 100% legal for US citizens to place a wager online at the federal level.  Some states have laws regarding internet wagering, but nobody has ever been tried for it.
     
    It is very common for these articles to get the facts wrong.  This one is another example in a long line of politically motivated misinformation.
     
    IT IS 100% LEGAL TO PLACE AN INTERNET WAGER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    That is absolute incorrect - and by the way very common - information about the legality of placing a bet online.
     
    It is absolutely 100% legal for US citizens to place a wager online at the federal level.  Some states have laws regarding internet wagering, but nobody has ever been tried for it.
     
    It is very common for these articles to get the facts wrong.  This one is another example in a long line of politically motivated misinformation.
     
    IT IS 100% LEGAL TO PLACE AN INTERNET WAGER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    That is absolute incorrect - and by the way very common - information about the legality of placing a bet online.
     
    It is absolutely 100% legal for US citizens to place a wager online at the federal level.  Some states have laws regarding internet wagering, but nobody has ever been tried for it.
     
    It is very common for these articles to get the facts wrong.  This one is another example in a long line of politically motivated misinformation.
     
    IT IS 100% LEGAL TO PLACE AN INTERNET WAGER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCrimes1984:

    America - land of the anti-gambling facists and home of the cowered bettors

    Rather live here than anywhere else in the world...

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    America - land of the anti-gambling facists and home of the cowered bettors

    Rather live here than anywhere else in the world...

     
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    Its banned because Feds cant tax on our plays from off shores sites!! Horse Racing and Indian casinos all around California have to pay high taxes to keep the FEDS and State happy.
    Might just move to Canada, this is insane!!
     
     
     
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    Its banned because Feds cant tax on our plays from off shores sites!! Horse Racing and Indian casinos all around California have to pay high taxes to keep the FEDS and State happy.
    Might just move to Canada, this is insane!!
     
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by All-In8:

    What a bunch of shit.  Don't we have more important things to worry about (a war, economy, etc...) than betting on sports?  

    Yeah like busting Roget clemens for roids, amazing waste of tax payers money make sure our sports heros are clean and no one is winning money when they play well. The hell with wars, econmy, housing , homelessness, all those little thing BUST THE BOOKIES, BETTORS, and JUICERS I say!

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    Quote Originally Posted by All-In8:

    What a bunch of shit.  Don't we have more important things to worry about (a war, economy, etc...) than betting on sports?  

    Yeah like busting Roget clemens for roids, amazing waste of tax payers money make sure our sports heros are clean and no one is winning money when they play well. The hell with wars, econmy, housing , homelessness, all those little thing BUST THE BOOKIES, BETTORS, and JUICERS I say!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCrimes1984:

    America - land of the anti-gambling facists and home of the cowered bettors

    I have been alll over the world and would not live anywhere.

    S. Amerca- Nice Economy

    Europe-good luck setting up a business there without Family money

    Africa-Another fucking wasteland

    Asia-haven't been

    Austraila- haven't been

    America is where all the smartest people in their respective countries come to educate themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCrimes1984:

    America - land of the anti-gambling facists and home of the cowered bettors

    I have been alll over the world and would not live anywhere.

    S. Amerca- Nice Economy

    Europe-good luck setting up a business there without Family money

    Africa-Another fucking wasteland

    Asia-haven't been

    Austraila- haven't been

    America is where all the smartest people in their respective countries come to educate themselves.

     
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    When in doubt, follow the money trail.
     
    States get no piece of the offshore action, so they are pissed.  Anyone with 1/100th of a gdmf-ing brain cell left knows there's not a gd bit of difference between getting down on Monday night football, buying a farking lottery ticket, or contributing a few bucks every pay period to the 401K.  It's ALL a gdmf-ing gamble at the end of the gd day.
     
    And this crappola about "family values" when you got preachers trying to f--k their alter boys at the "Holy Catholic Church?"
     
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    When in doubt, follow the money trail.
     
    States get no piece of the offshore action, so they are pissed.  Anyone with 1/100th of a gdmf-ing brain cell left knows there's not a gd bit of difference between getting down on Monday night football, buying a farking lottery ticket, or contributing a few bucks every pay period to the 401K.  It's ALL a gdmf-ing gamble at the end of the gd day.
     
    And this crappola about "family values" when you got preachers trying to f--k their alter boys at the "Holy Catholic Church?"
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2008 - 3:52 PM ET #18

    Glad to see this thread posted.  I must admit I've worried a bit about "getting busted" (like it's a damn crime), and what the penalty would be for betting sports online.  Thanks for the good info fellow cappers!!!  Game on !!!!! 
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    Glad to see this thread posted.  I must admit I've worried a bit about "getting busted" (like it's a damn crime), and what the penalty would be for betting sports online.  Thanks for the good info fellow cappers!!!  Game on !!!!! 
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