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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:29 PM ET #376

    JET -6 
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:31 PM ET #377

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:



    Can't find  the betting pool (money amount bet) on each team at SBR.

    Not found on thespread.com either - just percentages.

    Can you help?

    That is very valuable info. 


    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:



    Can't find  the betting pool (money amount bet) on each team at SBR.

    Not found on thespread.com either - just percentages.

    Can you help?

    That is very valuable info. 


    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:33 PM ET #378

    Quote Originally Posted by boomersooner18:


    perhaps he hasn't recovered from the Acid trip he took with Houston Sports at the Who concert.
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    perhaps he hasn't recovered from the Acid trip he took with Houston Sports at the Who concert.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:38 PM ET #379

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:



    Can't find  the betting pool (money amount bet) on each team at SBR.

    Not found on thespread.com either - just percentages.

    Can you help?

    That is very valuable info. 


    you go to the consensus 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:



    Can't find  the betting pool (money amount bet) on each team at SBR.

    Not found on thespread.com either - just percentages.

    Can you help?

    That is very valuable info. 


    you go to the consensus 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:39 PM ET #380

    NFL Week 2: MNF IND Colts vs NY Jets


    First I wanted to find out why everyone is so hang on the Colts after their dead meet performance last week. So here is why:

    INDIANAPOLIS is 11-1 ATS after a straight-up loss since the start of the 2012 season.

    Indianapolis Colts are 15-1 ATS after a loss

    Luck is 12-1 SU & 12-1 ATS after SU loss in his career

    Andrew luck is 11-1 (1h) ATS in his career after a SU loss

    INDIANAPOLIS is 8-0 ATS in a home game in which the total is between 45.5 and 49 points since the start of the 2012 season.

    Then I wanted to know why there still are almost 2 out of 5 bettors that think the Jets are the play (ATS). So, this is what I found:

    New York Jets 1 36 154 4.3 36.0 154.0 rushing offense
    Indianapolis Colts 1 17 64 3.8 17.0 64.0

    New York Jets 1 24.0 15.0 62.5 179 179.0 passing offense
    Indianapolis Colts 1 49.0 26.0 53.1 243 243.0

    New York Jets 1 32.0 18.0 56.3 217 217.0 pass defense
    Indianapolis Colts 1 19.0 14.0 73.7 195 195.0

    New York Jets 1 28 104 3.7 28.0 104.0 rush defense
    Indianapolis Colts 1 36 147 4.1 36.0 147.0

    plus and minus the stats by yards divide by 60.00min and x4 and that equals your favorite which is jets favored by 1.2pts i like jets think they cover and they are 5-4 h2h since 2001

    So, there are still people wanting to pass the game. Here is one of the reasons:

    trouble is storming in Indy, their head coach was turned down more money by management, he is making peanuts and the players are angry... they might lay down again this week...no bet

    Now look at this:

    The book says 8 point margin. And 7 out of 10 times they do that - it ends up opposite. Last time was KC DEN 24-17 ended up 24-31.

    Also, the stats are way too obvious to be continued. And the money... "Vegas" is in the hole this week and I know they do not like the atmosphere there. But again - I may be reaching like in Buffalo game and may very well be that I complicate the situation and instead of just taking the obvious and betting it - I'm making a huge mistake risking 399$ out of over 5K earned here. Or am I risking it recklessly? Don't go anywhere at the halftime.

    This is a 3 Units Play

    NY Jets +7 -133  (bought a point)

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    NFL Week 2: MNF IND Colts vs NY Jets


    First I wanted to find out why everyone is so hang on the Colts after their dead meet performance last week. So here is why:

    INDIANAPOLIS is 11-1 ATS after a straight-up loss since the start of the 2012 season.

    Indianapolis Colts are 15-1 ATS after a loss

    Luck is 12-1 SU & 12-1 ATS after SU loss in his career

    Andrew luck is 11-1 (1h) ATS in his career after a SU loss

    INDIANAPOLIS is 8-0 ATS in a home game in which the total is between 45.5 and 49 points since the start of the 2012 season.

    Then I wanted to know why there still are almost 2 out of 5 bettors that think the Jets are the play (ATS). So, this is what I found:

    New York Jets 1 36 154 4.3 36.0 154.0 rushing offense
    Indianapolis Colts 1 17 64 3.8 17.0 64.0

    New York Jets 1 24.0 15.0 62.5 179 179.0 passing offense
    Indianapolis Colts 1 49.0 26.0 53.1 243 243.0

    New York Jets 1 32.0 18.0 56.3 217 217.0 pass defense
    Indianapolis Colts 1 19.0 14.0 73.7 195 195.0

    New York Jets 1 28 104 3.7 28.0 104.0 rush defense
    Indianapolis Colts 1 36 147 4.1 36.0 147.0

    plus and minus the stats by yards divide by 60.00min and x4 and that equals your favorite which is jets favored by 1.2pts i like jets think they cover and they are 5-4 h2h since 2001

    So, there are still people wanting to pass the game. Here is one of the reasons:

    trouble is storming in Indy, their head coach was turned down more money by management, he is making peanuts and the players are angry... they might lay down again this week...no bet

    Now look at this:

    The book says 8 point margin. And 7 out of 10 times they do that - it ends up opposite. Last time was KC DEN 24-17 ended up 24-31.

    Also, the stats are way too obvious to be continued. And the money... "Vegas" is in the hole this week and I know they do not like the atmosphere there. But again - I may be reaching like in Buffalo game and may very well be that I complicate the situation and instead of just taking the obvious and betting it - I'm making a huge mistake risking 399$ out of over 5K earned here. Or am I risking it recklessly? Don't go anywhere at the halftime.

    This is a 3 Units Play

    NY Jets +7 -133  (bought a point)

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:41 PM ET #381

    where i say look at this originally i have a screenshot from a book says the total point props are 26.5 for indy and 18.5 for the jets
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    where i say look at this originally i have a screenshot from a book says the total point props are 26.5 for indy and 18.5 for the jets
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:47 PM ET #382

    gl phixer. hate to be on the other side tho but imma let it ride 
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    gl phixer. hate to be on the other side tho but imma let it ride 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:51 PM ET #383


    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:



    Can't find  the betting pool (money amount bet) on each team at SBR.

    Not found on thespread.com either - just percentages.

    Can you help?

    That is very valuable info.
     

    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyTwoTime:



    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/


    Sometimes helps. in this case most money is on Indy but odds have shifted to entice more Indy money. This means odds makers like the Jets so maybe Indy bettors should beware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:



    Can't find  the betting pool (money amount bet) on each team at SBR.

    Not found on thespread.com either - just percentages.

    Can you help?

    That is very valuable info.
     

    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyTwoTime:



    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/


    Sometimes helps. in this case most money is on Indy but odds have shifted to entice more Indy money. This means odds makers like the Jets so maybe Indy bettors should beware.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:52 PM ET #384

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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:54 PM ET #385

    I truly hate being on the other side, as I read your write ups before ever placing a bet.  I can only hope that if the players are in unity with their coach their is more motivation to win and provide Max effort.  Either way. Thanks for all you do.
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    I truly hate being on the other side, as I read your write ups before ever placing a bet.  I can only hope that if the players are in unity with their coach their is more motivation to win and provide Max effort.  Either way. Thanks for all you do.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:55 PM ET #386

    Good luck man!

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    Good luck man!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:57 PM ET #388

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyTwoTime:



    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/


    Sometimes helps. in this case most money is on Indy but odds have shifted to entice more Indy money. This means odds makers like the Jets so maybe Indy bettors should beware.
    Money moved the line from -7 earlier today to -6 now, not Vegas taking a position on the game.
    The pen is mightier than the pigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyTwoTime:



    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/


    Sometimes helps. in this case most money is on Indy but odds have shifted to entice more Indy money. This means odds makers like the Jets so maybe Indy bettors should beware.
    Money moved the line from -7 earlier today to -6 now, not Vegas taking a position on the game.
     
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    trouble is storming in Indy, their head coach was turned down more money by management, he is making peanuts and the players are angry

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    trouble is storming in Indy, their head coach was turned down more money by management, he is making peanuts and the players are angry

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:58 PM ET #390

    For Tinklebell go to help.com/lol

     

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    For Tinklebell go to help.com/lol

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 6:59 PM ET #391

     love it Jets +7
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     love it Jets +7
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 7:03 PM ET #392

    BOL Phixer...with you on this one as well. 
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    BOL Phixer...with you on this one as well. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 7:09 PM ET #393

    Was already locked in at Jets +7. Glad to see you approve.

    BOL everybody 
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    Was already locked in at Jets +7. Glad to see you approve.

    BOL everybody 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 7:30 PM ET #394

    Thanks phixer nice write up man. GL
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    Thanks phixer nice write up man. GL
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 7:32 PM ET #395

    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:

     
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyTwoTime:

    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/ Sometimes helps. in this case most money is on Indy but odds have shifted to entice more Indy money. This means odds makers like the Jets so maybe Indy bettors should beware.
    Money moved the line from -7 earlier today to -6 now, not Vegas taking a position on the game.


    Something interesting I noticed yesterday before games started... Both Ravens and Dolphins were 6 point favorites on the road against bad teAms. When someone that is a good team is favoured by 6, it's basically begging you to take them figuring they should be able to win by a td at least. This game is even more tempting. Colts are at home (Ravens and fish were not) and are coming off a loss opening week. This looks like easy money on Indy at -6.... The jags and raiders showed is it wasn't yesterday. Now I also thought the pats-bills line was baiting everyone into taking New England and they did win so I suppose you never know, Vegas wants to keep us guessing. But I lean towards phixer's take here. Vegas wants to recover, and that -6 just seems too obvious.

    I go jets +7 (-125 at my book). Good luck to all
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    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:

     
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyTwoTime:

    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/ Sometimes helps. in this case most money is on Indy but odds have shifted to entice more Indy money. This means odds makers like the Jets so maybe Indy bettors should beware.
    Money moved the line from -7 earlier today to -6 now, not Vegas taking a position on the game.


    Something interesting I noticed yesterday before games started... Both Ravens and Dolphins were 6 point favorites on the road against bad teAms. When someone that is a good team is favoured by 6, it's basically begging you to take them figuring they should be able to win by a td at least. This game is even more tempting. Colts are at home (Ravens and fish were not) and are coming off a loss opening week. This looks like easy money on Indy at -6.... The jags and raiders showed is it wasn't yesterday. Now I also thought the pats-bills line was baiting everyone into taking New England and they did win so I suppose you never know, Vegas wants to keep us guessing. But I lean towards phixer's take here. Vegas wants to recover, and that -6 just seems too obvious.

    I go jets +7 (-125 at my book). Good luck to all
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 7:33 PM ET #396

     BOL Phixer!! With you on this one, but -6. Hopefully it won't matter. 

    What's are your thoughts on O/U?
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    What's are your thoughts on O/U?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 7:33 PM ET #397

    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    Money moved the line from -7 earlier today to -6 now, not Vegas taking a position on the game.

    How exactly do you know money moved the line? Do you truly believe
    Vegas doesn't take a position in games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    Money moved the line from -7 earlier today to -6 now, not Vegas taking a position on the game.

    How exactly do you know money moved the line? Do you truly believe
    Vegas doesn't take a position in games?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 7:37 PM ET #398

    Good luck lads.. I too was thinking the Jets on the Monday night.. Godspeed
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2015 - 7:39 PM ET #399

    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:

     
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyTwoTime:

    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/ Sometimes helps. in this case most money is on Indy but odds have shifted to entice more Indy money. This means odds makers like the Jets so maybe Indy bettors should beware.
    Money moved the line from -7 earlier today to -6 now, not Vegas taking a position on the game.


    Ravens -6, dolphins -6 yesterday. Very tempting right? Both lost straight up to bad teams. See any parallels? I like phixer's take here


    Jets +6
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    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:

     
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyTwoTime:

    Not sure how it's all that valuable but here you go..https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/consensus/ Sometimes helps. in this case most money is on Indy but odds have shifted to entice more Indy money. This means odds makers like the Jets so maybe Indy bettors should beware.
    Money moved the line from -7 earlier today to -6 now, not Vegas taking a position on the game.


    Ravens -6, dolphins -6 yesterday. Very tempting right? Both lost straight up to bad teams. See any parallels? I like phixer's take here


    Jets +6
     
     
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    It's not just money that moves lines, but "who's money" that moves lines.

    That mid 40's guy in sweat pants, comb over and a pair of broken glasses w/ tape in the middle equiped w/ a wrinkled note book(that the casino recognizes) can move a line. Doesn't have to be much either.

    But now in days w/ online/offshore internet wagers who knows how many bettors are tracked.

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    It's not just money that moves lines, but "who's money" that moves lines.

    That mid 40's guy in sweat pants, comb over and a pair of broken glasses w/ tape in the middle equiped w/ a wrinkled note book(that the casino recognizes) can move a line. Doesn't have to be much either.

    But now in days w/ online/offshore internet wagers who knows how many bettors are tracked.

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