Weeden went that high because he can play. Second best qb in the draft. If he's 23 he would have been in argument to go no. 1. In no possible way is he a downgrade from colt mccoy. Colt isnt remotely close to being a pro-caliber qb. Just my opinion.
so what do you think of weeden now ? this guy is a stiff like i new he would be ,
holmgren is a moron , the brown suck, they didn't need to take a QB on the 23 pick , other major problems , and weeden is a downgrade from colt Mccoy ,
Shumar will not try to make Holmgren look like a fool by switching to mccoy so soon but its inevatable the fans were chanting for mccoy
Weeden went that high because he can play. Second best qb in the draft. If he's 23 he would have been in argument to go no. 1. In no possible way is he a downgrade from colt mccoy. Colt isnt remotely close to being a pro-caliber qb. Just my opinion.
so what do you think of weeden now ? this guy is a stiff like i new he would be ,
holmgren is a moron , the brown suck, they didn't need to take a QB on the 23 pick , other major problems , and weeden is a downgrade from colt Mccoy ,
Shumar will not try to make Holmgren look like a fool by switching to mccoy so soon but its inevatable the fans were chanting for mccoy
weeden totally sucked ass. U said he had no arm though so you dont know what the f yur talking about, you bumping this thread tells me you are barely ever right. lol
weeden totally sucked ass. U said he had no arm though so you dont know what the f yur talking about, you bumping this thread tells me you are barely ever right. lol
Honestly how goo you think Tom Brady would be on the Browns? I mean the offense is a complete joke. Aaron Rodgers? Drew Brees? I think they all would have problems. I saw one wr on the field with any talent (Mo Mass)
Honestly how goo you think Tom Brady would be on the Browns? I mean the offense is a complete joke. Aaron Rodgers? Drew Brees? I think they all would have problems. I saw one wr on the field with any talent (Mo Mass)
what's your point i told you he sucked before he played and his arm isn't great yes the browns sucked just like i said
what you don't understand is they won't win a single game with this guy , with mccoy they win 4 or 5 games
so holngren picking this stiff in the first round was a major blunder and the coach having to name him the starter, not to make the GM look like a dope
what's your point i told you he sucked before he played and his arm isn't great yes the browns sucked just like i said
what you don't understand is they won't win a single game with this guy , with mccoy they win 4 or 5 games
so holngren picking this stiff in the first round was a major blunder and the coach having to name him the starter, not to make the GM look like a dope
his only chance will be at home against buffalo in two weeks , not that weeden will do anything good, but buffalo is so horrible ,they made the jets look like world beaters ,
after buffalo they are in tough and weeden will be exposed, he will be so bad that he will have to be replaced unless they run the ball every down . the problem with that is their running backs suck also
his only chance will be at home against buffalo in two weeks , not that weeden will do anything good, but buffalo is so horrible ,they made the jets look like world beaters ,
after buffalo they are in tough and weeden will be exposed, he will be so bad that he will have to be replaced unless they run the ball every down . the problem with that is their running backs suck also
you guys can debate all you want about weeeden. fact is the Browns have on of the best defenses in the league, that alone will be able to keep them in games.
i'll take clev plus the points and on the ML this week vs Cincy.
you guys can debate all you want about weeeden. fact is the Browns have on of the best defenses in the league, that alone will be able to keep them in games.
i'll take clev plus the points and on the ML this week vs Cincy.
There are bad debuts and there are really bad debuts.
Then there’s the day Brandon Weeden had Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles. Weeden’s career ERA in minor league baseball was 5.02. His quarterback rating in the opener was 5.1 So he beat his ERA, at least.
Other than that Weeden had as forgettable a day as any Browns quarterback has had in recent memory — and that’s saying a lot.
His numbers alone are near mind-boggling: 12 for 35 (34 percent) for 118 yards — 3.37 per attempt.
He threw four interceptions.
The most mind-boggling of numbers: His 5.1 passer rating.
In fact, that rating was historic.
Because no rookie quarterback since 1960 had a lower rating on opening day (minimum 15 passes).
Weeden also had the sixth-worst passer rating among all opening-day quarterbacks (minimum 20 attempts) since 1960.
Took this from a ohio newspaper they should also have mentioned that he also is the oldest Rookie QB since 1960, he will be 29 in october .
There are bad debuts and there are really bad debuts.
Then there’s the day Brandon Weeden had Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles. Weeden’s career ERA in minor league baseball was 5.02. His quarterback rating in the opener was 5.1 So he beat his ERA, at least.
Other than that Weeden had as forgettable a day as any Browns quarterback has had in recent memory — and that’s saying a lot.
His numbers alone are near mind-boggling: 12 for 35 (34 percent) for 118 yards — 3.37 per attempt.
He threw four interceptions.
The most mind-boggling of numbers: His 5.1 passer rating.
In fact, that rating was historic.
Because no rookie quarterback since 1960 had a lower rating on opening day (minimum 15 passes).
Weeden also had the sixth-worst passer rating among all opening-day quarterbacks (minimum 20 attempts) since 1960.
Took this from a ohio newspaper they should also have mentioned that he also is the oldest Rookie QB since 1960, he will be 29 in october .
People are blowing this way the fuck out of proportion. He played the fucking Eagles. The Eagles are a top 5 Superbowl caliber defense. The Eagles defense makes every QB look bad. I’ve never seen so much love for a back up QB. That’s all McCoy is. He is a back up QB.
If McCoy would have won the game it still doesn’t change anything. If the Browns see no improvement in Weeden in the next 15 games, then they have a chance at getting USC QB Matt Barkley. So, if I was a Browns fan, I would be looking forward to the future.
What would be the point in starting McCoy if he is not your franchise QB? The Browns have gone through 20+ back up QB’s since Bernie Kosar. The Browns are looking for a franchise starting QB to lead the team not a back up QB to get them a few pointless W’s?
People are blowing this way the fuck out of proportion. He played the fucking Eagles. The Eagles are a top 5 Superbowl caliber defense. The Eagles defense makes every QB look bad. I’ve never seen so much love for a back up QB. That’s all McCoy is. He is a back up QB.
If McCoy would have won the game it still doesn’t change anything. If the Browns see no improvement in Weeden in the next 15 games, then they have a chance at getting USC QB Matt Barkley. So, if I was a Browns fan, I would be looking forward to the future.
What would be the point in starting McCoy if he is not your franchise QB? The Browns have gone through 20+ back up QB’s since Bernie Kosar. The Browns are looking for a franchise starting QB to lead the team not a back up QB to get them a few pointless W’s?
You would agree with me if you were live in person at this game. No seperation from any Browns Wide Receiver in the game but Mo Mass. Browns have no WR's, no TE's. If you see the game in person you know what I am talking about. No Seperation, Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers would not fair well, no one would. Tough situation to put a rookie QB in when he has no chance to begin with. With that being said, he still looked like shit.
You would agree with me if you were live in person at this game. No seperation from any Browns Wide Receiver in the game but Mo Mass. Browns have no WR's, no TE's. If you see the game in person you know what I am talking about. No Seperation, Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers would not fair well, no one would. Tough situation to put a rookie QB in when he has no chance to begin with. With that being said, he still looked like shit.
People are blowing this way the fuck out of proportion. He played the fucking Eagles. The Eagles are a top 5 Superbowl caliber defense. The Eagles defense makes every QB look bad. I’ve never seen so much love for a back up QB. That’s all McCoy is. He is a back up QB.
If McCoy would have won the game it still doesn’t change anything. If the Browns see no improvement in Weeden in the next 15 games, then they have a chance at getting USC QB Matt Barkley. So, if I was a Browns fan, I would be looking forward to the future.
What would be the point in starting McCoy if he is not your franchise QB? The Browns have gone through 20+ back up QB’s since Bernie Kosar. The Browns are looking for a franchise starting QB to lead the team not a back up QB to get them a few pointless W’s?
McCoy has already shown he can win games with this horrible team , he also is 3 years younger than Weeden
Now you want Holmgren to admit he was a fool and wasted the 22 pick in the draft on this stiff , and draft Barkley next year,
like that's really going to happen ?.
Two months ago i read an article in cleveland.. com where Holmgren was comparing Weeden to Favre , ,and now you say he will draft Barkley that's funny..
People are blowing this way the fuck out of proportion. He played the fucking Eagles. The Eagles are a top 5 Superbowl caliber defense. The Eagles defense makes every QB look bad. I’ve never seen so much love for a back up QB. That’s all McCoy is. He is a back up QB.
If McCoy would have won the game it still doesn’t change anything. If the Browns see no improvement in Weeden in the next 15 games, then they have a chance at getting USC QB Matt Barkley. So, if I was a Browns fan, I would be looking forward to the future.
What would be the point in starting McCoy if he is not your franchise QB? The Browns have gone through 20+ back up QB’s since Bernie Kosar. The Browns are looking for a franchise starting QB to lead the team not a back up QB to get them a few pointless W’s?
McCoy has already shown he can win games with this horrible team , he also is 3 years younger than Weeden
Now you want Holmgren to admit he was a fool and wasted the 22 pick in the draft on this stiff , and draft Barkley next year,
like that's really going to happen ?.
Two months ago i read an article in cleveland.. com where Holmgren was comparing Weeden to Favre , ,and now you say he will draft Barkley that's funny..
you guys can debate all you want about weeeden. fact is the Browns have on of the best defenses in the league, that alone will be able to keep them in games.
i'll take clev plus the points and on the ML this week vs Cincy.
They won't play overrated Mike Vick gifting them 4 INTS every game. They can be good, but will be worn out by week 8 if they are on the field constantly because the offense is totally inept no matter who the QB is.
you guys can debate all you want about weeeden. fact is the Browns have on of the best defenses in the league, that alone will be able to keep them in games.
i'll take clev plus the points and on the ML this week vs Cincy.
They won't play overrated Mike Vick gifting them 4 INTS every game. They can be good, but will be worn out by week 8 if they are on the field constantly because the offense is totally inept no matter who the QB is.
McCoy has already shown he can win games with this horrible team , he also is 3 years younger than Weeden
Now you want Holmgren to admit he was a fool and wasted the 22 pick in the draft on this stiff , and draft Barkley next year,
like that's really going to happen ?.
Two months ago i read an article in cleveland.. com where Holmgren was comparing Weeden to Favre , ,and now you say he will draft Barkley that's funny..
The Browns have been searching for a franchise QB for 20 years and McCoy is definitely not that guy. If he were that guy, he would be the starter.
You don’t get it do you? It’s not about winning a few pointless games, it’s about winning playoff games and the Superbowl.
Is McCoy a franchise QB? No. Is McCoy a playoff caliber QB? No. Is McCoy a Superbowl caliber QB? No. Does McCoy have the ability to be an elite QB? No. Does McCoy have the intangibles and the it factor? No.
So, what’s the point of McCoy being the starter for the Browns?
Holmgren doesn’t give a damn about what people think of him. If the Browns are in a position to get Matt Barkley, if Weeden doesn’t pan out, then that’s what will happen. Period!
Weeden plays one game straight out of college against the Superbowl contender Eagles and people are calling for McCoy? What a joke!
When the Browns play the Bills, that's the game I will judge Weeden on. If Weeden can't put up numbers on the Bills, then that's the time to start thinking of a new QB in the draft.
McCoy has already shown he can win games with this horrible team , he also is 3 years younger than Weeden
Now you want Holmgren to admit he was a fool and wasted the 22 pick in the draft on this stiff , and draft Barkley next year,
like that's really going to happen ?.
Two months ago i read an article in cleveland.. com where Holmgren was comparing Weeden to Favre , ,and now you say he will draft Barkley that's funny..
The Browns have been searching for a franchise QB for 20 years and McCoy is definitely not that guy. If he were that guy, he would be the starter.
You don’t get it do you? It’s not about winning a few pointless games, it’s about winning playoff games and the Superbowl.
Is McCoy a franchise QB? No. Is McCoy a playoff caliber QB? No. Is McCoy a Superbowl caliber QB? No. Does McCoy have the ability to be an elite QB? No. Does McCoy have the intangibles and the it factor? No.
So, what’s the point of McCoy being the starter for the Browns?
Holmgren doesn’t give a damn about what people think of him. If the Browns are in a position to get Matt Barkley, if Weeden doesn’t pan out, then that’s what will happen. Period!
Weeden plays one game straight out of college against the Superbowl contender Eagles and people are calling for McCoy? What a joke!
When the Browns play the Bills, that's the game I will judge Weeden on. If Weeden can't put up numbers on the Bills, then that's the time to start thinking of a new QB in the draft.
money you don't have a clue, there is no GM that takes a QB in the first round then says oh i guess i made a mistake, then takes another one the following year. .....it just don't happen guy
No GM admits major blunders like this, you say holmgren don't care what people think , i think he cares about what his employers think picks like Brandon Weeden get GM's fired every time .
money you don't have a clue, there is no GM that takes a QB in the first round then says oh i guess i made a mistake, then takes another one the following year. .....it just don't happen guy
No GM admits major blunders like this, you say holmgren don't care what people think , i think he cares about what his employers think picks like Brandon Weeden get GM's fired every time .
Why in the fuck would a Superbowl franchise saving coach give a flying fuck about what his employers think? The Browns begged Holmgren to save their pathetic franchise. Yeah, I’m sure Holmgren would love to destroy the franchise he’s trying to fix by passing up a QB that people are calling a can’t miss QB ready to play out of college because his pride won’t let him.
The idea that you think if the Browns finish with zero wins and have a shot at the number 1 pick in the draft. That they would pass up Barkley for another player if Weeden can’t play is fucking ridiculous. I just saw a no talent team almost beat a Superbowl caliber Eagles team.
The Browns gave up an average of 19 points a game last season and only gave up 17 to the high flying Eagles. I’ve never heard of a NO talent team that sucks from top to bottom that gives up only 19 points a game and only 17 points to a Superbowl caliber team before. I guess it is one of those anomalies. Bump this thread at the end of the season. I’m done.
Why in the fuck would a Superbowl franchise saving coach give a flying fuck about what his employers think? The Browns begged Holmgren to save their pathetic franchise. Yeah, I’m sure Holmgren would love to destroy the franchise he’s trying to fix by passing up a QB that people are calling a can’t miss QB ready to play out of college because his pride won’t let him.
The idea that you think if the Browns finish with zero wins and have a shot at the number 1 pick in the draft. That they would pass up Barkley for another player if Weeden can’t play is fucking ridiculous. I just saw a no talent team almost beat a Superbowl caliber Eagles team.
The Browns gave up an average of 19 points a game last season and only gave up 17 to the high flying Eagles. I’ve never heard of a NO talent team that sucks from top to bottom that gives up only 19 points a game and only 17 points to a Superbowl caliber team before. I guess it is one of those anomalies. Bump this thread at the end of the season. I’m done.
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