Bills still have shot to win AFC East They have to win out vs. NE, Atl, and Indy (might rest players)
1. New England must lose out against Buf, Jax, and at Houston 2. Miami must 2 out of 3 lose out at Tennesse, home against Houston and Pitt 3.Jets must lose out at home against Atlanta, Cincy, and at Indy
It could happen.
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Bills still have shot to win AFC East They have to win out vs. NE, Atl, and Indy (might rest players)
1. New England must lose out against Buf, Jax, and at Houston 2. Miami must 2 out of 3 lose out at Tennesse, home against Houston and Pitt 3.Jets must lose out at home against Atlanta, Cincy, and at Indy
My book doesn't even have the odds. but, considering Fish +600 and Jets +500....Bills have to be going off somewhere at +10,000 or something...Now that's some sweet action.
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My book doesn't even have the odds. but, considering Fish +600 and Jets +500....Bills have to be going off somewhere at +10,000 or something...Now that's some sweet action.
lol people thought i was crazy when i had a spreadsheet going for the eagles needing to get into the playoffs last year -- and it involved the raiders beating a good team in the last week.
and we all know what happened .. anything can happen.
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lol people thought i was crazy when i had a spreadsheet going for the eagles needing to get into the playoffs last year -- and it involved the raiders beating a good team in the last week.
and we all know what happened .. anything can happen.
Bills still have shot to win AFC East They have to win out vs. NE, Atl, and Indy (might rest players)
1. New England must lose out against Buf, Jax, and at Houston 2. Miami must 2 out of 3 lose out at Tennesse, home against Houston and Pitt 3.Jets must lose out at home against Atlanta, Cincy, and at Indy
It could happen.
No it can't.
Under the scenario you described the Bills, Dolphins, and Patriots would be tied for first at 8-8 and the Jets would be 7-9.
The first tie breaker for a 3 way tie for the division is head to head between all the clubs. All 3 would have split the games with each other.
The second tie breaker is division record. The Dolphins are 4-2 and the Bills and Patriots would be 3-3. Therefore the Dolphins would win the division in the scenario you described.
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Quote Originally Posted by jasondemz:
Bills still have shot to win AFC East They have to win out vs. NE, Atl, and Indy (might rest players)
1. New England must lose out against Buf, Jax, and at Houston 2. Miami must 2 out of 3 lose out at Tennesse, home against Houston and Pitt 3.Jets must lose out at home against Atlanta, Cincy, and at Indy
It could happen.
No it can't.
Under the scenario you described the Bills, Dolphins, and Patriots would be tied for first at 8-8 and the Jets would be 7-9.
The first tie breaker for a 3 way tie for the division is head to head between all the clubs. All 3 would have split the games with each other.
The second tie breaker is division record. The Dolphins are 4-2 and the Bills and Patriots would be 3-3. Therefore the Dolphins would win the division in the scenario you described.
Under the scenario you described the Bills, Dolphins, and Patriots would be tied for first at 8-8 and the Jets would be 7-9.
The first tie breaker for a 3 way tie for the division is head to head between all the clubs. All 3 would have split the games with each other.
The second tie breaker is division record. The Dolphins are 4-2 and the Bills and Patriots would be 3-3. Therefore the Dolphins would win the division in the scenario you described.
yup
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Quote Originally Posted by spiff:
No it can't.
Under the scenario you described the Bills, Dolphins, and Patriots would be tied for first at 8-8 and the Jets would be 7-9.
The first tie breaker for a 3 way tie for the division is head to head between all the clubs. All 3 would have split the games with each other.
The second tie breaker is division record. The Dolphins are 4-2 and the Bills and Patriots would be 3-3. Therefore the Dolphins would win the division in the scenario you described.
im sorry..all teams would have to lose out Miami, Jets, and NE and Buf must win out..and then Buf is the division winner...that is if all four finish 8-8
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im sorry..all teams would have to lose out Miami, Jets, and NE and Buf must win out..and then Buf is the division winner...that is if all four finish 8-8
im sorry..all teams would have to lose out Miami, Jets, and NE and Buf must win out..and then Buf is the division winner...that is if all four finish 8-8
You are not making much sense and don't seem to understand the tie breaking procedures.
If all teams (except the Bills) lose out then only the Bills and the Patriots would be 8-8. The Dolphins and Jets would be 7-9.
If all four teams finished 8-8 then the first tie breaker (head-to-head) would be the same as the second tie breaker (division record). This means the Dolphins would win the division.
Let me explain to you the Bills chances which are about as close to zero as one can get without actually being zero.
The Dolphins and Patriots must lose out. The Bills must win out. The Jets can finish 8-8 so must lose at least 2 of 3.
If the Bills, Patriots, and Jets are all tied at 8-8. The second tie breaker (division record) of the 'Three or More Clubs' procedure eliminates the Jets as they are 2-4 and the Bills and Patriots would be 3-3. It would then go to the first tie breaker of the 'Two Clubs' procedure. This is why the Jets can be tied as it would essentially be the same as only the Bills and the Patriots being tied.
First tie breaker (head to head) is a push. Second tie breaker (division record) is a push. Both would be 3-3. Third tie breaker (common games) is a push. Both would be 7-7. Fourth tie breaker (conference games) is a push. Both would be 5-7.
Fifth tie breaker (strength of victory) is the Bills only hope. It would depend on how the Ravens and Titans (for the Patriots) finished compared to the Colts and Chiefs (for the Bills). The other victories between the teams are a wash. As of now the Bills hold the advantage but given the scenario the Colts get a loss to the Bills and the Titans get a win versus the Dolphins so it depends the the results of those teams other games. It isn't just the Bills winning out and the other teams in the division losing out.
Sixth tie breaker (strength of schedule). If the fifth tie breaker is a push the Patriots will win the division on this tie breaker. Each team in a division have the same schedule except for 2 teams. So essentially the record of those 2 teams is the determining factor. The Patriots played the Ravens and Broncos (current record 15-11, worse possible finish 15-17). The Bills played the Browns and Chiefs (current record 5-21, best possible finish 11-21). Therefore the Patriots strength of schedule is better.
So it is possible but not guaranteed if the Bills and Patriots simply end up tied. It requires the outcome of some other games to go their way as well.
Also if the Colts beat the Jets don't expect them to rest players for Buffalo despite what you may hear so that would not be an easy game for them.
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Quote Originally Posted by jasondemz:
im sorry..all teams would have to lose out Miami, Jets, and NE and Buf must win out..and then Buf is the division winner...that is if all four finish 8-8
You are not making much sense and don't seem to understand the tie breaking procedures.
If all teams (except the Bills) lose out then only the Bills and the Patriots would be 8-8. The Dolphins and Jets would be 7-9.
If all four teams finished 8-8 then the first tie breaker (head-to-head) would be the same as the second tie breaker (division record). This means the Dolphins would win the division.
Let me explain to you the Bills chances which are about as close to zero as one can get without actually being zero.
The Dolphins and Patriots must lose out. The Bills must win out. The Jets can finish 8-8 so must lose at least 2 of 3.
If the Bills, Patriots, and Jets are all tied at 8-8. The second tie breaker (division record) of the 'Three or More Clubs' procedure eliminates the Jets as they are 2-4 and the Bills and Patriots would be 3-3. It would then go to the first tie breaker of the 'Two Clubs' procedure. This is why the Jets can be tied as it would essentially be the same as only the Bills and the Patriots being tied.
First tie breaker (head to head) is a push. Second tie breaker (division record) is a push. Both would be 3-3. Third tie breaker (common games) is a push. Both would be 7-7. Fourth tie breaker (conference games) is a push. Both would be 5-7.
Fifth tie breaker (strength of victory) is the Bills only hope. It would depend on how the Ravens and Titans (for the Patriots) finished compared to the Colts and Chiefs (for the Bills). The other victories between the teams are a wash. As of now the Bills hold the advantage but given the scenario the Colts get a loss to the Bills and the Titans get a win versus the Dolphins so it depends the the results of those teams other games. It isn't just the Bills winning out and the other teams in the division losing out.
Sixth tie breaker (strength of schedule). If the fifth tie breaker is a push the Patriots will win the division on this tie breaker. Each team in a division have the same schedule except for 2 teams. So essentially the record of those 2 teams is the determining factor. The Patriots played the Ravens and Broncos (current record 15-11, worse possible finish 15-17). The Bills played the Browns and Chiefs (current record 5-21, best possible finish 11-21). Therefore the Patriots strength of schedule is better.
So it is possible but not guaranteed if the Bills and Patriots simply end up tied. It requires the outcome of some other games to go their way as well.
Also if the Colts beat the Jets don't expect them to rest players for Buffalo despite what you may hear so that would not be an easy game for them.
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