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    Betting info for Monday and early movements

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 11:13 AM ET #1

    I’ll update mnf as it comes in.  As of midweek the Texans had 70% of tickets but only 50% of the cash. 
    Draft kings is all Texans money. The line came out 7 moved to 7.5 and is back to 7.

    the total came out 42.5 and now 41. Draft kings the money is on over. Bet mgm midweek was two way traffic with a touch to the over (56%)

    I’ll be able to see a better picture by 3pm because betmgm, fanduel, and few others will release their data. 

    early thoughts from superbook westgate

    steelers/browns

    Steelers-Browns opened Pittsburgh -4.5 in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market.

    "The Steelers are riding high after the huge win vs Baltimore," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said, while noting the first move was actually toward Cleveland. "Bettors have taken the Browns +4.5. We are now at 4."

    Later this evening, the line dipped another half-point to Steelers -3.5. DiCesare also noted early Under money, taking the total from 41 to 39.

    Denver/raiders

    Denver is already up 1.5 points vs. Las Vegas in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. The Broncos opened -3, quickly went to -3.5, then advanced to -4.5 after two hours.

    The total went the other direction, from 41.5 to 41/40.5 tonight.

    niners/pack

    With San Francisco still not able to find its footing, I expect early Green Bay money, with some buyback on San Francisco when we move," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said.

    Vikings/besrs

    Minnesota opened -4 vs. Chicago tonight in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. Within about 30 minutes, the line receded to Vikings -3.5. The total fell from 40.5 to 39.5.

     

     

    notes: bears total back to 40. Denver now 5. Pitt now 36.5.  

    Im already salivating at browns/pitt over. This looks like a good tumble spot for Pitt. From line movement it looks like sharp and public have aligned forces. Assuming weather is ok. I won’t touch side. I’d rather take a bubble bath with Andy Reid than put money on Jamis winston against a good defense. 

    have a great week and I’ll be back with updated handle/ risk manager feelings.

    ill have nba up around 630. 
    Weeds

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    I’ll update mnf as it comes in.  As of midweek the Texans had 70% of tickets but only 50% of the cash. 
    Draft kings is all Texans money. The line came out 7 moved to 7.5 and is back to 7.

    the total came out 42.5 and now 41. Draft kings the money is on over. Bet mgm midweek was two way traffic with a touch to the over (56%)

    I’ll be able to see a better picture by 3pm because betmgm, fanduel, and few others will release their data. 

    early thoughts from superbook westgate

    steelers/browns

    Steelers-Browns opened Pittsburgh -4.5 in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market.

    "The Steelers are riding high after the huge win vs Baltimore," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said, while noting the first move was actually toward Cleveland. "Bettors have taken the Browns +4.5. We are now at 4."

    Later this evening, the line dipped another half-point to Steelers -3.5. DiCesare also noted early Under money, taking the total from 41 to 39.

    Denver/raiders

    Denver is already up 1.5 points vs. Las Vegas in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. The Broncos opened -3, quickly went to -3.5, then advanced to -4.5 after two hours.

    The total went the other direction, from 41.5 to 41/40.5 tonight.

    niners/pack

    With San Francisco still not able to find its footing, I expect early Green Bay money, with some buyback on San Francisco when we move," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said.

    Vikings/besrs

    Minnesota opened -4 vs. Chicago tonight in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. Within about 30 minutes, the line receded to Vikings -3.5. The total fell from 40.5 to 39.5.

     

     

    notes: bears total back to 40. Denver now 5. Pitt now 36.5.  

    Im already salivating at browns/pitt over. This looks like a good tumble spot for Pitt. From line movement it looks like sharp and public have aligned forces. Assuming weather is ok. I won’t touch side. I’d rather take a bubble bath with Andy Reid than put money on Jamis winston against a good defense. 

    have a great week and I’ll be back with updated handle/ risk manager feelings.

    ill have nba up around 630. 
    Weeds

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 11:26 AM ET #2

    Valuable data Weed valuable data indeed. Keep up the good work.

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    Valuable data Weed valuable data indeed. Keep up the good work.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 11:32 AM ET #3

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 1:21 PM ET #5

    this guy said bubble bath with andy reiddd eewwwww an_roll_laugh

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    this guy said bubble bath with andy reiddd eewwwww an_roll_laugh

     
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    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 4:14 PM ET #8

     

    Updated Texans-Cowboys betting at #BetMGM from pr/data

    HoustonTexans

    open -7, no movement

    82% of bets, 69% of money on Texans

    Total open 42.5, now 41.5

    73% of bets, 85% of money on over

    dallascowboys

    open +260, now +280

    52% of bets, 47% of money on Cowboys

     

    Public bettors loving the Texans on #MNF:

     

    82% of bets, 84% of $$ on HOU -7 at

    @BetRivers

    82% of tickets, 75% of money on HOU -7

    at DKSportsbook

    82% of tickets , 69% of moneyon HOU -7 at BetMGM

    80% of tickets, 73% of money on HOU -7 at

    @ESPNBET

    71% of tickets, 13% of money on HOU -7 at

    @CircaSports

     

    From oddsmaker

    @tgablesportson #MNF:

    “We took some bigger plays on the Cowboys +7.5 earlier in the week. We've been sitting at 7 since. The public is all over Houston in this one."

     

    BetMGM

    Most bet (tickets) Texans-Cowboys player props

    1. Cooper Rush under 178.5 passing yards (-115)
    2. Joe Mixon over 86.5 rushing yards (-110)
    3. Nico Collins over 72.5 receiving yards (-130)
    4. Cooper Rush under 33.5 passing attempts (-135)
    5. CeeDee Lamb over 59.5 receiving yards (-120)

     

     

    The over is catching money everywhere but circa. I don’t trust circa their data always looks extremely far fetched.

     

    The fact is at 41 it takes stones to bet the under.  You can’t look at Dallas and say they will hold anyone under 30 at home.

     

    Is the under the right side? Probably, but with caveat of luck. An interception in the red zone, or a 4th down implosion on the goal line.  The problem and something you can’t handicap is what if that 4th down happens on your 40? Or the turnover happens on a punt return? You can handicap a turnover and I assume we will see a few, but where do they occur?

     

    I’ll be back with more but this is a good start of tying this together. I think we can see that books have chosen a side. Respected have chosen their interest.  If you have questions feel free to ask.

    weeds

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    Updated Texans-Cowboys betting at #BetMGM from pr/data

    HoustonTexans

    open -7, no movement

    82% of bets, 69% of money on Texans

    Total open 42.5, now 41.5

    73% of bets, 85% of money on over

    dallascowboys

    open +260, now +280

    52% of bets, 47% of money on Cowboys

     

    Public bettors loving the Texans on #MNF:

     

    82% of bets, 84% of $$ on HOU -7 at

    @BetRivers

    82% of tickets, 75% of money on HOU -7

    at DKSportsbook

    82% of tickets , 69% of moneyon HOU -7 at BetMGM

    80% of tickets, 73% of money on HOU -7 at

    @ESPNBET

    71% of tickets, 13% of money on HOU -7 at

    @CircaSports

     

    From oddsmaker

    @tgablesportson #MNF:

    “We took some bigger plays on the Cowboys +7.5 earlier in the week. We've been sitting at 7 since. The public is all over Houston in this one."

     

    BetMGM

    Most bet (tickets) Texans-Cowboys player props

    1. Cooper Rush under 178.5 passing yards (-115)
    2. Joe Mixon over 86.5 rushing yards (-110)
    3. Nico Collins over 72.5 receiving yards (-130)
    4. Cooper Rush under 33.5 passing attempts (-135)
    5. CeeDee Lamb over 59.5 receiving yards (-120)

     

     

    The over is catching money everywhere but circa. I don’t trust circa their data always looks extremely far fetched.

     

    The fact is at 41 it takes stones to bet the under.  You can’t look at Dallas and say they will hold anyone under 30 at home.

     

    Is the under the right side? Probably, but with caveat of luck. An interception in the red zone, or a 4th down implosion on the goal line.  The problem and something you can’t handicap is what if that 4th down happens on your 40? Or the turnover happens on a punt return? You can handicap a turnover and I assume we will see a few, but where do they occur?

     

    I’ll be back with more but this is a good start of tying this together. I think we can see that books have chosen a side. Respected have chosen their interest.  If you have questions feel free to ask.

    weeds

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 4:21 PM ET #9

    Btw? Is there anyway I can put a betting chart in a post? This would be so much easier if I could just import a jpeg.

    i wrote under instead over, those mistakes would disappear if I could just put the “insights” up.

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    Btw? Is there anyway I can put a betting chart in a post? This would be so much easier if I could just import a jpeg.

    i wrote under instead over, those mistakes would disappear if I could just put the “insights” up.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 4:41 PM ET #10

    Awesome stuff weeds !!

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    Awesome stuff weeds !!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 6:55 PM ET #11

    Alright last of the chatter

    @DKSportsbook: “We’re seeing one-sided action on Houston for MNF, so the book will be rooting for Dallas to win outright.”
     
    strangely quiet. Not a lot of blabber with the game an hour away.
     
    so this is how I’m playing.  I’m taking the over. Sharps have sucked on totals all year.  I also know that money was on over on early bets.  I think public gets their cookie and here is why 
     
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    Alright last of the chatter

    @DKSportsbook: “We’re seeing one-sided action on Houston for MNF, so the book will be rooting for Dallas to win outright.”
     
    strangely quiet. Not a lot of blabber with the game an hour away.
     
    so this is how I’m playing.  I’m taking the over. Sharps have sucked on totals all year.  I also know that money was on over on early bets.  I think public gets their cookie and here is why 
     
    (tbc)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 7:01 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Weeds1079:

    I’ll update mnf as it comes in.  As of midweek the Texans had 70% of tickets but only 50% of the cash. Draft kings is all Texans money. The line came out 7 moved to 7.5 and is back to 7. the total came out 42.5 and now 41. Draft kings the money is on over. Bet mgm midweek was two way traffic with a touch to the over (56%) I’ll be able to see a better picture by 3pm because betmgm, fanduel, and few others will release their data.  early thoughts from superbook westgate steelers/browns Steelers-Browns opened Pittsburgh -4.5 in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. "The Steelers are riding high after the huge win vs Baltimore," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said, while noting the first move was actually toward Cleveland. "Bettors have taken the Browns +4.5. We are now at 4." Later this evening, the line dipped another half-point to Steelers -3.5. DiCesare also noted early Under money, taking the total from 41 to 39. Denver/raiders Denver is already up 1.5 points vs. Las Vegas in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. The Broncos opened -3, quickly went to -3.5, then advanced to -4.5 after two hours. The total went the other direction, from 41.5 to 41/40.5 tonight. niners/pack With San Francisco still not able to find its footing, I expect early Green Bay money, with some buyback on San Francisco when we move," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said. Vikings/besrs Minnesota opened -4 vs. Chicago tonight in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. Within about 30 minutes, the line receded to Vikings -3.5. The total fell from 40.5 to 39.5.     notes: bears total back to 40. Denver now 5. Pitt now 36.5.  Im already salivating at browns/pitt over. This looks like a good tumble spot for Pitt. From line movement it looks like sharp and public have aligned forces. Assuming weather is ok. I won’t touch side. I’d rather take a bubble bath with Andy Reid than put money on Jamis winston against a good defense.  have a great week and I’ll be back with updated handle/ risk manager feelings. ill have nba up around 630. Weeds

     

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    I’ll update mnf as it comes in.  As of midweek the Texans had 70% of tickets but only 50% of the cash. Draft kings is all Texans money. The line came out 7 moved to 7.5 and is back to 7. the total came out 42.5 and now 41. Draft kings the money is on over. Bet mgm midweek was two way traffic with a touch to the over (56%) I’ll be able to see a better picture by 3pm because betmgm, fanduel, and few others will release their data.  early thoughts from superbook westgate steelers/browns Steelers-Browns opened Pittsburgh -4.5 in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. "The Steelers are riding high after the huge win vs Baltimore," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said, while noting the first move was actually toward Cleveland. "Bettors have taken the Browns +4.5. We are now at 4." Later this evening, the line dipped another half-point to Steelers -3.5. DiCesare also noted early Under money, taking the total from 41 to 39. Denver/raiders Denver is already up 1.5 points vs. Las Vegas in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. The Broncos opened -3, quickly went to -3.5, then advanced to -4.5 after two hours. The total went the other direction, from 41.5 to 41/40.5 tonight. niners/pack With San Francisco still not able to find its footing, I expect early Green Bay money, with some buyback on San Francisco when we move," SuperBook risk supervisor Arthur DiCesare said. Vikings/besrs Minnesota opened -4 vs. Chicago tonight in The SuperBook's NFL odds Week 12 market. Within about 30 minutes, the line receded to Vikings -3.5. The total fell from 40.5 to 39.5.     notes: bears total back to 40. Denver now 5. Pitt now 36.5.  Im already salivating at browns/pitt over. This looks like a good tumble spot for Pitt. From line movement it looks like sharp and public have aligned forces. Assuming weather is ok. I won’t touch side. I’d rather take a bubble bath with Andy Reid than put money on Jamis winston against a good defense.  have a great week and I’ll be back with updated handle/ risk manager feelings. ill have nba up around 630. Weeds

     

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 7:05 PM ET #13

    The public lost rams last week, commanders Thursday, Georgia/Texas Saturday, packers bengals yesterday.  

    if they are going to give up a wager it’s not going to be on anything tied to a live parlay from yesterday .

     

    so I played

    over 41 and over Rico dowdle 25 receiving yards. I think cooper rush will throw to a guy that took snaps with him on second team. I don’t think he will get to the third read before he is looking to dunk the ball off

     

    over 38.5 cowboys +11

     

    both for a half unit at about 2/1 top is closer to 3.5/1

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    The public lost rams last week, commanders Thursday, Georgia/Texas Saturday, packers bengals yesterday.  

    if they are going to give up a wager it’s not going to be on anything tied to a live parlay from yesterday .

     

    so I played

    over 41 and over Rico dowdle 25 receiving yards. I think cooper rush will throw to a guy that took snaps with him on second team. I don’t think he will get to the third read before he is looking to dunk the ball off

     

    over 38.5 cowboys +11

     

    both for a half unit at about 2/1 top is closer to 3.5/1

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 7:30 PM ET #14

    Updated Texans-Cowboys betting at #BetMGM

    HoustonTexans

    open -7, now -7.5

    78% of bets, 67% of money on Texans

    Total open 42.5, now 41.5

    68% of bets, 70% of money on Over

    @dallascowboys

    open +260, now +300
    55% of bets, 39% of money on Cowboys

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    Updated Texans-Cowboys betting at #BetMGM

    HoustonTexans

    open -7, now -7.5

    78% of bets, 67% of money on Texans

    Total open 42.5, now 41.5

    68% of bets, 70% of money on Over

    @dallascowboys

    open +260, now +300
    55% of bets, 39% of money on Cowboys

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 7:34 PM ET #15

    @Weeds1079

     Thanks for sharing.

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    @Weeds1079

     Thanks for sharing.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2024 - 8:11 PM ET #16

    I love how this guy puts things. He was the guy who said every sharp, rec payer, and their immediate families were holding bengals tickets and that if they won they basically would be even for the day.

     

    this guy runs the sharp book in Ohio that refuses to limit action or turn away winners. A subset of his clientele have no choice but to play there 

     

     

    Where the sharps and public are, and all other things Texans vs. Cowboys MNF, per

    Where the sharps and public are, and all other things Texans vs. Cowboys MNF, per

    @primesportsbook

    's

    @joebrennanjr

    : Dallas outright would be a welcome sight. "Remember Hanging Chads? Well, we have a ton of hanging teasers that last night's Bengals rally kept alive, with Houston as the last leg. "So we find ourselves in a tight spot: "Looking at straight bets on the game, despite having twice as many tickets on HOU, 74% of the money is on DAL. "However, once you add in all the parlays and teasers, we are looking at a pretty bad decision if Houston wins outright, let alone covers.

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    I love how this guy puts things. He was the guy who said every sharp, rec payer, and their immediate families were holding bengals tickets and that if they won they basically would be even for the day.

     

    this guy runs the sharp book in Ohio that refuses to limit action or turn away winners. A subset of his clientele have no choice but to play there 

     

     

    Where the sharps and public are, and all other things Texans vs. Cowboys MNF, per

    Where the sharps and public are, and all other things Texans vs. Cowboys MNF, per

    @primesportsbook

    's

    @joebrennanjr

    : Dallas outright would be a welcome sight. "Remember Hanging Chads? Well, we have a ton of hanging teasers that last night's Bengals rally kept alive, with Houston as the last leg. "So we find ourselves in a tight spot: "Looking at straight bets on the game, despite having twice as many tickets on HOU, 74% of the money is on DAL. "However, once you add in all the parlays and teasers, we are looking at a pretty bad decision if Houston wins outright, let alone covers.

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