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    Alexg221
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 9:44 AM ET #26

    @chris2411

     Hey Chris,

    Love what you are doing as I think computers are the way to go as far as predicting. Like you said, there is the element of emotion a computer leaves off as well as the fact that a computer simply has that much more power. I too, am very into mathematical analysis as it pertains to betting. If done right, this is a full time business. Anyways, not sure how to reach out to you directly on here, but would love to stay in touch and follow your journey. Even open to helping out (currently a lot of free time on my hands) or potentially being a tester by playing your plays with real money if it makes sense. Lmk and GL today. I too like KC

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     Hey Chris,

    Love what you are doing as I think computers are the way to go as far as predicting. Like you said, there is the element of emotion a computer leaves off as well as the fact that a computer simply has that much more power. I too, am very into mathematical analysis as it pertains to betting. If done right, this is a full time business. Anyways, not sure how to reach out to you directly on here, but would love to stay in touch and follow your journey. Even open to helping out (currently a lot of free time on my hands) or potentially being a tester by playing your plays with real money if it makes sense. Lmk and GL today. I too like KC

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 9:57 AM ET #27

    I've got a similar background in programming (sql backend, some front end languages) and finance. Interested in testing, looking at the dataset to see if some human elements could be used/added as well. PM if interested.

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    I've got a similar background in programming (sql backend, some front end languages) and finance. Interested in testing, looking at the dataset to see if some human elements could be used/added as well. PM if interested.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 10:33 AM ET #28

    @wizard1183

    I've spent a great deal of time thinking about the human element in this project, and trying to understand what it actually means. What makes my model stand out is that it accounts (primitively) for the psychology of the players particularly the QB. In a Super Bowl Brady goes quiet from all stats available, he relies on familiar patterns built throughout. Also the reluctance of Mahomes to run in the last 3 games is blinding obvious on paper. I know that when I see a prediction I don't really know how likely it will be to translate in real life, that is why some quality control from a person who understands the human element to teach the model is much needed. 

    I'll compile this seasons results, should be up this evening (from sql to excel).

    Cheers for taking an interest, Chris

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    @wizard1183

    I've spent a great deal of time thinking about the human element in this project, and trying to understand what it actually means. What makes my model stand out is that it accounts (primitively) for the psychology of the players particularly the QB. In a Super Bowl Brady goes quiet from all stats available, he relies on familiar patterns built throughout. Also the reluctance of Mahomes to run in the last 3 games is blinding obvious on paper. I know that when I see a prediction I don't really know how likely it will be to translate in real life, that is why some quality control from a person who understands the human element to teach the model is much needed. 

    I'll compile this seasons results, should be up this evening (from sql to excel).

    Cheers for taking an interest, Chris

     
    VegasCompetitor
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 12:03 PM ET #29

    Lol @ this

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    Lol @ this

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 12:45 PM ET #30

    @VegasCompetitor

     Thats fair enough I didn't expect everyone to get it. I have to say the experience and ability of people who have approached me on here has been phenomenal. It takes a different breed to be a gambler in a zero-sum game.

    Question: how is Vegas now considering nealry all states will have legalised sports betting by 2025-30?, Does Vegas really have a purpose anymore, other than elopements? new_emoj_tounge

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     Thats fair enough I didn't expect everyone to get it. I have to say the experience and ability of people who have approached me on here has been phenomenal. It takes a different breed to be a gambler in a zero-sum game.

    Question: how is Vegas now considering nealry all states will have legalised sports betting by 2025-30?, Does Vegas really have a purpose anymore, other than elopements? new_emoj_tounge

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 1:04 PM ET #31

    Thanks Chris on the views about GPT-3, need to investigate more. I work for Google so have access to some great ML algos.

    where do you get your data? I want to build a model for college basketball for upcoming march madness 

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    Thanks Chris on the views about GPT-3, need to investigate more. I work for Google so have access to some great ML algos.

    where do you get your data? I want to build a model for college basketball for upcoming march madness 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 2:57 PM ET #32

    @brownidentity

    I would be glad to assist you in any way I can. Google are doing some exciting things, however considering their resources are being outshone but many small startups. My nephew loves stats and NFL so I was fortunate to have access to his extensive library. I also use aws and next-gen stats, perhaps the best sports stats resevoir ever created. Auto-scalp is used for injury updates and news from ESPN.

    Cheers, Chris 

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    @brownidentity

    I would be glad to assist you in any way I can. Google are doing some exciting things, however considering their resources are being outshone but many small startups. My nephew loves stats and NFL so I was fortunate to have access to his extensive library. I also use aws and next-gen stats, perhaps the best sports stats resevoir ever created. Auto-scalp is used for injury updates and news from ESPN.

    Cheers, Chris 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 3:07 PM ET #33

    Thank you for your mathematical analysis. Very interesting and appreciated. 

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    Thank you for your mathematical analysis. Very interesting and appreciated. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2021 - 3:13 PM ET #34

    I would look forward to seeing the system being applied to the next NFL season. It was a good read, although I only understand some of what you mentioned.  Whenever I see a ‘stats guy’ posting, it represents a whole other level. Thanks for posting!

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    I would look forward to seeing the system being applied to the next NFL season. It was a good read, although I only understand some of what you mentioned.  Whenever I see a ‘stats guy’ posting, it represents a whole other level. Thanks for posting!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2021 - 2:43 AM ET #35

    Thanks Chris and tough luck today. Can I send you a friend request and DM you? Would love your thoughts on something im Working on. Cheers 

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    Thanks Chris and tough luck today. Can I send you a friend request and DM you? Would love your thoughts on something im Working on. Cheers 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2021 - 3:02 AM ET #36

    chris,

    Very interesting indeed...I managed my hs, college bball team and worked in pro sports for 5 years in college...did alot of stats compiling.

    PM to stay in touchpeace_5

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    chris,

    Very interesting indeed...I managed my hs, college bball team and worked in pro sports for 5 years in college...did alot of stats compiling.

    PM to stay in touchpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2021 - 3:34 PM ET #37

    oooh,so close.only 32 points off.

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    oooh,so close.only 32 points off.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2021 - 5:55 PM ET #38

    I still stand by my model. Based on stats even going years back Chiefs have never played like that. So what was the model supposed to go on? complete feeling, love for Bucs?. Notwithstanding that's the reason why I gave 4 predictions, and 2/4 is a result for me. My friend from Europe sent me screenshots just after the game, she made a 28% profit on my picks.

    I am slighty dissapointed, however I can also say I really feel I have something good going here, and will continue to help others in the thread with their models for the upcoming NBA and next seasons NFL, thanks for all the support

     https://i.imgur.com/vy6qslZ.png

    https://i.imgur.com/xiM1hwq.png

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    I still stand by my model. Based on stats even going years back Chiefs have never played like that. So what was the model supposed to go on? complete feeling, love for Bucs?. Notwithstanding that's the reason why I gave 4 predictions, and 2/4 is a result for me. My friend from Europe sent me screenshots just after the game, she made a 28% profit on my picks.

    I am slighty dissapointed, however I can also say I really feel I have something good going here, and will continue to help others in the thread with their models for the upcoming NBA and next seasons NFL, thanks for all the support

     https://i.imgur.com/vy6qslZ.png

    https://i.imgur.com/xiM1hwq.png

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2021 - 6:17 PM ET #39

    was only kidding around...hope you continue on with it and share results/findings...in the end it matters not what predictions we make,the wild randomness of sports will eventually bite us in the ar.se at some point.

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    was only kidding around...hope you continue on with it and share results/findings...in the end it matters not what predictions we make,the wild randomness of sports will eventually bite us in the ar.se at some point.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2021 - 6:48 PM ET #40

    @melossinglet

    I have to say looking at the video, it comes across as too 'wow look at me', next time i'll add the detail as the majority of people have asked for the process. It's really not good enough to slap down 4 predictions and say trust me.

    I really wasn't expecting the genuine interest from some very knowledgeable people in the sports betting field. Getting their opinion (which was the missing link) with some computer science and probability, really looking foward to the future of this.

     

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    I have to say looking at the video, it comes across as too 'wow look at me', next time i'll add the detail as the majority of people have asked for the process. It's really not good enough to slap down 4 predictions and say trust me.

    I really wasn't expecting the genuine interest from some very knowledgeable people in the sports betting field. Getting their opinion (which was the missing link) with some computer science and probability, really looking foward to the future of this.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2021 - 10:00 AM ET #41

    Hi Chris. I added you as a friend to direct message you. No need to talk here in the jungle. Thanks.peace_5

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    Hi Chris. I added you as a friend to direct message you. No need to talk here in the jungle. Thanks.peace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 2, 2021 - 7:52 PM ET #42

    Definitely good stuff for any NFLers still alive...hope it gets the proper attention...no sarcasm...mean it.

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    Definitely good stuff for any NFLers still alive...hope it gets the proper attention...no sarcasm...mean it.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2021 - 7:53 PM ET #43

    Your model didn't account for those 6 KC penalties in a row that the refs used to dim the Chiefs' hopes. The fix was in after Reid's story traffic scandal broke...and by the way, we haven't heard a peep about that story since. 

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    Your model didn't account for those 6 KC penalties in a row that the refs used to dim the Chiefs' hopes. The fix was in after Reid's story traffic scandal broke...and by the way, we haven't heard a peep about that story since. 

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