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    That last second shot HURT

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    melossinglet
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 4:45 AM ET #26

    wat the fu????...they werent the same situation,wat the feck are you talking about??....this situation he was on court in the middle of an offensive play with time expiring,standing near the rim when he saw the ball carom off it and,because......ya know,hes a BASKETBALL PLAYER,he instinctively went up and put it in...perhaps in a little frustration,perhaps to pad his stats??..who knows and who gives a fu.kk??...but thats not the same as being on defense and having the time to consciously decide to "call the game off" early...how the heck are they the same??.....and as for me making up arguments,well i dont even know the game youre talking about so i actually cant debate it at all and am only taking your word for it.

    and thats pretty rich tryna tell me im worked up after sumone else goes to the trouble of making a worthless thread just to whine about sumthing imaginary cos they lost a bet,aint it him and all his paranoid co-signing cronies that are actually worked up??...im perfectly calm,altho yes i will concede it is testing to try and talk sense to lunatics.

    but the question remains unanswered,can you help me out PLEASE??...even tho you are a liar and will try and play the role of devils advocate only so that you are not exposed,you clearly feel there is something deliberate and untoward going on here or else you wud not have raised the question of inconsistency...so,seeing as you believe in a fix of sum sort why is it that lebron(quite obviously the ring-leader in this sinister plot to lighten the pockets of fine upstanding citizens everywhere) allowed j.r. smith to take an extremely unlikely 3 pointer with defenders draped over him when james cud have instead taken the ball himself and gone into the paint for a more hi % shot??...especially given the fact that spurs were extended out in trying to stop the 3 ball so wud have gladly conceded a layup in exchange.


    please,this is really vexing me.

    option 1)take the ball and drive it in at all costs for the much needed cover
    option 2)stand around while sumone fires up a long range shot with a few seconds left on the clock and then hope and pray with all your might that the perfect bounce ends up affording you the opportunity of a put-back to break the hearts of gamblers everywhere.


    yep,ya know i think youre correct.the second scenario seems like a waaay better,more likely plan now that i think about it.
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    wat the fu????...they werent the same situation,wat the feck are you talking about??....this situation he was on court in the middle of an offensive play with time expiring,standing near the rim when he saw the ball carom off it and,because......ya know,hes a BASKETBALL PLAYER,he instinctively went up and put it in...perhaps in a little frustration,perhaps to pad his stats??..who knows and who gives a fu.kk??...but thats not the same as being on defense and having the time to consciously decide to "call the game off" early...how the heck are they the same??.....and as for me making up arguments,well i dont even know the game youre talking about so i actually cant debate it at all and am only taking your word for it.

    and thats pretty rich tryna tell me im worked up after sumone else goes to the trouble of making a worthless thread just to whine about sumthing imaginary cos they lost a bet,aint it him and all his paranoid co-signing cronies that are actually worked up??...im perfectly calm,altho yes i will concede it is testing to try and talk sense to lunatics.

    but the question remains unanswered,can you help me out PLEASE??...even tho you are a liar and will try and play the role of devils advocate only so that you are not exposed,you clearly feel there is something deliberate and untoward going on here or else you wud not have raised the question of inconsistency...so,seeing as you believe in a fix of sum sort why is it that lebron(quite obviously the ring-leader in this sinister plot to lighten the pockets of fine upstanding citizens everywhere) allowed j.r. smith to take an extremely unlikely 3 pointer with defenders draped over him when james cud have instead taken the ball himself and gone into the paint for a more hi % shot??...especially given the fact that spurs were extended out in trying to stop the 3 ball so wud have gladly conceded a layup in exchange.


    please,this is really vexing me.

    option 1)take the ball and drive it in at all costs for the much needed cover
    option 2)stand around while sumone fires up a long range shot with a few seconds left on the clock and then hope and pray with all your might that the perfect bounce ends up affording you the opportunity of a put-back to break the hearts of gamblers everywhere.


    yep,ya know i think youre correct.the second scenario seems like a waaay better,more likely plan now that i think about it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 8:59 AM ET #27

    First off Partner, how am I a liar?  Because I disagree with your assessment?  LOL.

    While you try and answer that, partner, let me explain this again.  And I'll go SLOW.

    The prior game, Cavs were down 6 with less than 10 secs to play (I believe it was 8 secs).  Instead of FOULING, LBJ waves everyone off...LITERALLY waves the other Cavs off.  The argument was it was a "lost cause" right?  ok fine, sure, reasonable explanation.  Whatever.

    But lo and behold, this game, DOWN 6 with less than 10 secs to play (THE SAME SITUATION, I repeat, the SAME SITUATION), why wouldn't LBJ wave off the cavs from even attempting to make a 3?  It's a lost cause right?  Why give up the previous game and not this one?  You are arguing about LBJ making a bucket or JR attempting a three but are missing the whole point (not surprisingly).  The question is, why would he allow the Cavs or himself to even continue trying to win when he didn't previously.  Why not wave off the Cavs again from expending energy attempting a near hopeless comeback?  The fact that he allowed ANYONE to even take a shot with less than 10 seconds is COMPLETELY OPPOSITE of what he did in the prior game.  Why?  Can you explain that?  (lol, the coach, right, we all know LBJ is the shot caller of this team).

    DO YOU GET IT NOW?  It's not about the made basket, it's about even ATTEMPTING a basket when if he did like he did against GSW, he should have told his team to GIVE UP again.  I really don't even know why I'm trying to discuss this with you, you are obviously one of those that are limited in being able to expand your POV, are set in what you believe and will denigrate any others that disagree with your POV (bravo, well done).

    I will say this.  The prior game, Cavs were ensured the +6.5 COVER because LeBron waved off the take foul.  This game they got the COVER because LeBron DIDN'T tell his guys to give it up.  Coincidence?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Maybe LBJ has a homeboy from Akron that he knows bets on Cleveland games (totally independent of LBJ himself) or even tells him before the games "I got money on you tonight, +6 homie!".  You think he may have extra motivation to ensure CAV covers?  You saying no has just as much evidence as me saying yes.  Would it be that outlandish if it was the case?  Think about it.

    But you won't and I'm sure you'll respond with some childish, long winded post about how my outlandish "conspiracy" theories reflect my stupidity when all I'm really doing is making an observation on an interesting 180 that LBJ exhibited.  And you'll continue to click on "worthless threads" about fixes just so you can add even more juvenile, worthless drivel to the thread and continue to bump it to the top of the forum.  Well done bro.  Carry on.
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    First off Partner, how am I a liar?  Because I disagree with your assessment?  LOL.

    While you try and answer that, partner, let me explain this again.  And I'll go SLOW.

    The prior game, Cavs were down 6 with less than 10 secs to play (I believe it was 8 secs).  Instead of FOULING, LBJ waves everyone off...LITERALLY waves the other Cavs off.  The argument was it was a "lost cause" right?  ok fine, sure, reasonable explanation.  Whatever.

    But lo and behold, this game, DOWN 6 with less than 10 secs to play (THE SAME SITUATION, I repeat, the SAME SITUATION), why wouldn't LBJ wave off the cavs from even attempting to make a 3?  It's a lost cause right?  Why give up the previous game and not this one?  You are arguing about LBJ making a bucket or JR attempting a three but are missing the whole point (not surprisingly).  The question is, why would he allow the Cavs or himself to even continue trying to win when he didn't previously.  Why not wave off the Cavs again from expending energy attempting a near hopeless comeback?  The fact that he allowed ANYONE to even take a shot with less than 10 seconds is COMPLETELY OPPOSITE of what he did in the prior game.  Why?  Can you explain that?  (lol, the coach, right, we all know LBJ is the shot caller of this team).

    DO YOU GET IT NOW?  It's not about the made basket, it's about even ATTEMPTING a basket when if he did like he did against GSW, he should have told his team to GIVE UP again.  I really don't even know why I'm trying to discuss this with you, you are obviously one of those that are limited in being able to expand your POV, are set in what you believe and will denigrate any others that disagree with your POV (bravo, well done).

    I will say this.  The prior game, Cavs were ensured the +6.5 COVER because LeBron waved off the take foul.  This game they got the COVER because LeBron DIDN'T tell his guys to give it up.  Coincidence?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Maybe LBJ has a homeboy from Akron that he knows bets on Cleveland games (totally independent of LBJ himself) or even tells him before the games "I got money on you tonight, +6 homie!".  You think he may have extra motivation to ensure CAV covers?  You saying no has just as much evidence as me saying yes.  Would it be that outlandish if it was the case?  Think about it.

    But you won't and I'm sure you'll respond with some childish, long winded post about how my outlandish "conspiracy" theories reflect my stupidity when all I'm really doing is making an observation on an interesting 180 that LBJ exhibited.  And you'll continue to click on "worthless threads" about fixes just so you can add even more juvenile, worthless drivel to the thread and continue to bump it to the top of the forum.  Well done bro.  Carry on.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 9:09 AM ET #28

    Further, in the prior game, he called the cavs off immediately upon a missed 3 by the cavs.  Other team got the rebound and in the middle of an immediate change of possession, in the "spur of the moment", he had the presence of mind to make the decision to give up and let them dribble out the clock.  His "instinct" was to give up.

    In THIS game, LMA shot two free throws.  This is NOT a spur of the moment decision.  LBJ had ample time to go through the scenarios.  So he goes against what his basketball player "instinct" told him the prior game?  OK.  Seems legit.

    You're right, no need to respond.  You showed me.  Good job.  GL on your bets.  
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    Further, in the prior game, he called the cavs off immediately upon a missed 3 by the cavs.  Other team got the rebound and in the middle of an immediate change of possession, in the "spur of the moment", he had the presence of mind to make the decision to give up and let them dribble out the clock.  His "instinct" was to give up.

    In THIS game, LMA shot two free throws.  This is NOT a spur of the moment decision.  LBJ had ample time to go through the scenarios.  So he goes against what his basketball player "instinct" told him the prior game?  OK.  Seems legit.

    You're right, no need to respond.  You showed me.  Good job.  GL on your bets.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 9:22 AM ET #29

    If he makes the basket, half the people scream fix.

    If he doesn't make it, half the people scream fix.

    Any of you see a problem with this?


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    If he makes the basket, half the people scream fix.

    If he doesn't make it, half the people scream fix.

    Any of you see a problem with this?


     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 10:00 AM ET #30

    You guys are funny, you are blaming the Cavs for your losses when you should be blaming the spurs for not covering the spread
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    You guys are funny, you are blaming the Cavs for your losses when you should be blaming the spurs for not covering the spread
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 10:12 AM ET #31

    does anybody have a link to the highlight clip of the video for the last 10 seconds of the game?? i was watching it on gamecast on my phone and couldnt believe when it went final and saw the cavs scored with less than a second left to cover
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    does anybody have a link to the highlight clip of the video for the last 10 seconds of the game?? i was watching it on gamecast on my phone and couldnt believe when it went final and saw the cavs scored with less than a second left to cover
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 12:07 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    Quote Originally Posted by rain_man10:

    It's pretty obvious he made that shot for Cavs to cover. If you disagree you are blind.
    Rather be blind then a complete idiot !!!  If the shoe fits...well.. and it fits you like a glove... Do not gamble would be my advice ... You are not the sharpest pencil in the desk...


    Absolutely unnessary to make a 2 point shot when they're down 6 with 2 seconds left. I'm frustrated yes cause I had Spurs -5. But whats the reason for making that 2 point shot? The game was over they lost. The 2 point shot would not have made any difference except for Cavs cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    Quote Originally Posted by rain_man10:

    It's pretty obvious he made that shot for Cavs to cover. If you disagree you are blind.
    Rather be blind then a complete idiot !!!  If the shoe fits...well.. and it fits you like a glove... Do not gamble would be my advice ... You are not the sharpest pencil in the desk...


    Absolutely unnessary to make a 2 point shot when they're down 6 with 2 seconds left. I'm frustrated yes cause I had Spurs -5. But whats the reason for making that 2 point shot? The game was over they lost. The 2 point shot would not have made any difference except for Cavs cover.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2016 - 2:31 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:

    First off Partner, how am I a liar?  Because I disagree with your assessment?  LOL.

    While you try and answer that, partner, let me explain this again.  And I'll go SLOW.

    The prior game, Cavs were down 6 with less than 10 secs to play (I believe it was 8 secs).  Instead of FOULING, LBJ waves everyone off...LITERALLY waves the other Cavs off.  The argument was it was a "lost cause" right?  ok fine, sure, reasonable explanation.  Whatever.

    But lo and behold, this game, DOWN 6 with less than 10 secs to play (THE SAME SITUATION, I repeat, the SAME SITUATION), why wouldn't LBJ wave off the cavs from even attempting to make a 3?  It's a lost cause right?  Why give up the previous game and not this one?  You are arguing about LBJ making a bucket or JR attempting a three but are missing the whole point (not surprisingly).  The question is, why would he allow the Cavs or himself to even continue trying to win when he didn't previously.  Why not wave off the Cavs again from expending energy attempting a near hopeless comeback?  The fact that he allowed ANYONE to even take a shot with less than 10 seconds is COMPLETELY OPPOSITE of what he did in the prior game.  Why?  Can you explain that?  (lol, the coach, right, we all know LBJ is the shot caller of this team).

    DO YOU GET IT NOW?  It's not about the made basket, it's about even ATTEMPTING a basket when if he did like he did against GSW, he should have told his team to GIVE UP again.  I really don't even know why I'm trying to discuss this with you, you are obviously one of those that are limited in being able to expand your POV, are set in what you believe and will denigrate any others that disagree with your POV (bravo, well done).

    I will say this.  The prior game, Cavs were ensured the +6.5 COVER because LeBron waved off the take foul.  This game they got the COVER because LeBron DIDN'T tell his guys to give it up.  Coincidence?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Maybe LBJ has a homeboy from Akron that he knows bets on Cleveland games (totally independent of LBJ himself) or even tells him before the games "I got money on you tonight, +6 homie!".  You think he may have extra motivation to ensure CAV covers?  You saying no has just as much evidence as me saying yes.  Would it be that outlandish if it was the case?  Think about it.

    But you won't and I'm sure you'll respond with some childish, long winded post about how my outlandish "conspiracy" theories reflect my stupidity when all I'm really doing is making an observation on an interesting 180 that LBJ exhibited.  And you'll continue to click on "worthless threads" about fixes just so you can add even more juvenile, worthless drivel to the thread and continue to bump it to the top of the forum.  Well done bro.  Carry on.


    ...........oh,okay okay okay okay...im totally convinced now,i apologise..im such a moron!!!!...i actually literally cant believe how blind and stupid and close-minded i've been all this time when this stuff has been going on rite in front of my very eyes...good god,im a fu.kken idiot!!!!!

    okay,now im on board...im with you,dude...i dont need any more convincing and i feel embarrassed to have been so gullible prior to having my eyes opened by sumone with far,far superior intelligence and perceptiveness........so,please please please peace to you and a truce,yea??


    i can see that sumthing sinister is definitely going on because that lo-life lebron james did COMPLETELY different things in EXACTLY the same situations(and DEFINITELY not because hes a human being who does random things) and that is obviously because he NEEDED a bucket to go in to get the cover in the second situation,that is frickin obvious by not calling the game off early and dribbling out the clock....duh!!!....its sooooo obvious.

    okay,so now theres only one thing bugging me and i need you to explain it cos we're both on the same page here and in sync but you are better at this than me.........so,for the third time,to get the cover that lebron OBVIOUSLY,DESPERATELY needed why did he not take a hi % 2 point shot(or get fouled) himself instead of letting a long shot be jacked up by sumone else,outside his control?????????

    everything else is golden,i just need this piece filled in to make it all fall into place.

    much appreciated,man....im sooooooo thankful to have encountered sumone who is so much smarter and better than me and can fill me in on wats really going on in life...its awesome!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:

    First off Partner, how am I a liar?  Because I disagree with your assessment?  LOL.

    While you try and answer that, partner, let me explain this again.  And I'll go SLOW.

    The prior game, Cavs were down 6 with less than 10 secs to play (I believe it was 8 secs).  Instead of FOULING, LBJ waves everyone off...LITERALLY waves the other Cavs off.  The argument was it was a "lost cause" right?  ok fine, sure, reasonable explanation.  Whatever.

    But lo and behold, this game, DOWN 6 with less than 10 secs to play (THE SAME SITUATION, I repeat, the SAME SITUATION), why wouldn't LBJ wave off the cavs from even attempting to make a 3?  It's a lost cause right?  Why give up the previous game and not this one?  You are arguing about LBJ making a bucket or JR attempting a three but are missing the whole point (not surprisingly).  The question is, why would he allow the Cavs or himself to even continue trying to win when he didn't previously.  Why not wave off the Cavs again from expending energy attempting a near hopeless comeback?  The fact that he allowed ANYONE to even take a shot with less than 10 seconds is COMPLETELY OPPOSITE of what he did in the prior game.  Why?  Can you explain that?  (lol, the coach, right, we all know LBJ is the shot caller of this team).

    DO YOU GET IT NOW?  It's not about the made basket, it's about even ATTEMPTING a basket when if he did like he did against GSW, he should have told his team to GIVE UP again.  I really don't even know why I'm trying to discuss this with you, you are obviously one of those that are limited in being able to expand your POV, are set in what you believe and will denigrate any others that disagree with your POV (bravo, well done).

    I will say this.  The prior game, Cavs were ensured the +6.5 COVER because LeBron waved off the take foul.  This game they got the COVER because LeBron DIDN'T tell his guys to give it up.  Coincidence?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Maybe LBJ has a homeboy from Akron that he knows bets on Cleveland games (totally independent of LBJ himself) or even tells him before the games "I got money on you tonight, +6 homie!".  You think he may have extra motivation to ensure CAV covers?  You saying no has just as much evidence as me saying yes.  Would it be that outlandish if it was the case?  Think about it.

    But you won't and I'm sure you'll respond with some childish, long winded post about how my outlandish "conspiracy" theories reflect my stupidity when all I'm really doing is making an observation on an interesting 180 that LBJ exhibited.  And you'll continue to click on "worthless threads" about fixes just so you can add even more juvenile, worthless drivel to the thread and continue to bump it to the top of the forum.  Well done bro.  Carry on.


    ...........oh,okay okay okay okay...im totally convinced now,i apologise..im such a moron!!!!...i actually literally cant believe how blind and stupid and close-minded i've been all this time when this stuff has been going on rite in front of my very eyes...good god,im a fu.kken idiot!!!!!

    okay,now im on board...im with you,dude...i dont need any more convincing and i feel embarrassed to have been so gullible prior to having my eyes opened by sumone with far,far superior intelligence and perceptiveness........so,please please please peace to you and a truce,yea??


    i can see that sumthing sinister is definitely going on because that lo-life lebron james did COMPLETELY different things in EXACTLY the same situations(and DEFINITELY not because hes a human being who does random things) and that is obviously because he NEEDED a bucket to go in to get the cover in the second situation,that is frickin obvious by not calling the game off early and dribbling out the clock....duh!!!....its sooooo obvious.

    okay,so now theres only one thing bugging me and i need you to explain it cos we're both on the same page here and in sync but you are better at this than me.........so,for the third time,to get the cover that lebron OBVIOUSLY,DESPERATELY needed why did he not take a hi % 2 point shot(or get fouled) himself instead of letting a long shot be jacked up by sumone else,outside his control?????????

    everything else is golden,i just need this piece filled in to make it all fall into place.

    much appreciated,man....im sooooooo thankful to have encountered sumone who is so much smarter and better than me and can fill me in on wats really going on in life...its awesome!!!!
     
     
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    Wow this is my thread that I started and can't believe all the responses. Really I started this because I was upset about the last shot and why they even bothered because it wasn't going to help them win the game unless they were attempting a 3.
    Anyway guys lets put this one to bed and onto the next game.
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    Wow this is my thread that I started and can't believe all the responses. Really I started this because I was upset about the last shot and why they even bothered because it wasn't going to help them win the game unless they were attempting a 3.
    Anyway guys lets put this one to bed and onto the next game.
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