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    Sterling Bashers!

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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 3:17 PM ET #1

    Sterling was engaged in a lovers’ tiff stemming from his jealous reaction to Ms. Stiviano’s statement that she was going to “bring four gorgeous black guys to the game.”

    Mr.Sterling did not deny that the words he uttered were “stupid, foolish, [and] uneducated.” (But he also said—in a portion of the interview far less quoted in the media—that when “you get upset you say things.” (Id.) It is beyond dispute to anyone who actually listened to the recording (and not just read the transcript) that Mr. Sterling was distraught—indeed, in tears—during the conversation. While this of course does not justify what Mr. Sterling said, it should be a mitigating factor because everyone has uttered words in the heat of an argument they later regretted; this is part of being human. Mr. Sterling has admitted that he was jealous, and Ms.Stiviano was aware of her position in relation to Mr. Sterling, telling him “And you’re in love with me.”

    It is also apparent that Ms. Stiviano baited Mr. Sterling—in this distressed and vulnerablestate—into saying many of these hurtful comments. Throughout the argument, Mr. Sterling tried to end the conversation, but Ms. Stiviano continued to try and elicit responses from him. Ms. Stiviano’s persistent instigating continued when Mr. Sterling said that he was not a racist. When Ms. Stiviano first asked Mr. Sterling: “What’s wrong with minorities? What’s wrong with black people?,” Mr. Sterling replied, “Nothing. Nothing.”

    The following passage is particularly illustrative:

    Ms. Stiviano: I don’t understand how you can have so much hate towards minorities.

    Ms. Stiviano: I can’t believe that a man who’s educated, a man who’s a scholar, a man...

    to a Clippers executive, she perceives this all as a game: “LET THE GAMES BEGAN. . . .”

    IF YOU ALL THINK STERLING REPLY TO HER ABOUT NOT BRINGING BLACK GUYS TO THE GAME WAS IN ANY FORM SOME KIND OF RACIAL DENEGRATION or DISCRIMINATION  YOU ARE ALL FOOLS! 

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    Sterling was engaged in a lovers’ tiff stemming from his jealous reaction to Ms. Stiviano’s statement that she was going to “bring four gorgeous black guys to the game.”

    Mr.Sterling did not deny that the words he uttered were “stupid, foolish, [and] uneducated.” (But he also said—in a portion of the interview far less quoted in the media—that when “you get upset you say things.” (Id.) It is beyond dispute to anyone who actually listened to the recording (and not just read the transcript) that Mr. Sterling was distraught—indeed, in tears—during the conversation. While this of course does not justify what Mr. Sterling said, it should be a mitigating factor because everyone has uttered words in the heat of an argument they later regretted; this is part of being human. Mr. Sterling has admitted that he was jealous, and Ms.Stiviano was aware of her position in relation to Mr. Sterling, telling him “And you’re in love with me.”

    It is also apparent that Ms. Stiviano baited Mr. Sterling—in this distressed and vulnerablestate—into saying many of these hurtful comments. Throughout the argument, Mr. Sterling tried to end the conversation, but Ms. Stiviano continued to try and elicit responses from him. Ms. Stiviano’s persistent instigating continued when Mr. Sterling said that he was not a racist. When Ms. Stiviano first asked Mr. Sterling: “What’s wrong with minorities? What’s wrong with black people?,” Mr. Sterling replied, “Nothing. Nothing.”

    The following passage is particularly illustrative:

    Ms. Stiviano: I don’t understand how you can have so much hate towards minorities.

    Ms. Stiviano: I can’t believe that a man who’s educated, a man who’s a scholar, a man...

    to a Clippers executive, she perceives this all as a game: “LET THE GAMES BEGAN. . . .”

    IF YOU ALL THINK STERLING REPLY TO HER ABOUT NOT BRINGING BLACK GUYS TO THE GAME WAS IN ANY FORM SOME KIND OF RACIAL DENEGRATION or DISCRIMINATION  YOU ARE ALL FOOLS! 

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 3:40 PM ET #2

     V: I'm bringing four gorgeous black guys to the game.  (Said to Donald to hurt him and provoke a reaction)

    D: I don't want you bringing black guys to my games."  (Natural emotional response. He really only wanted her to himself, he was jealous and could care less about their color. She kept bring the work black and minorities up.)

     

    Really????? 

    Can any person that is a minority really say they are offended by Donald's remarks in this situation?

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     V: I'm bringing four gorgeous black guys to the game.  (Said to Donald to hurt him and provoke a reaction)

    D: I don't want you bringing black guys to my games."  (Natural emotional response. He really only wanted her to himself, he was jealous and could care less about their color. She kept bring the work black and minorities up.)

     

    Really????? 

    Can any person that is a minority really say they are offended by Donald's remarks in this situation?

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 3:46 PM ET #3

    Come on! Let's hear how you were offended by this.
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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 5:33 PM ET #4

    Bandwagoners! Hypocrites!  where are you?

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    Bandwagoners! Hypocrites!  where are you?

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 5:46 PM ET #5

    Shut up
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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 5:57 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Shut up

    Can't, I'm bitching like everyone that was yelling , "he doesn't want black people coming to his games" "what he doesn't want to sell tickets to black people"    what a lie!!!!!!!!!

    besides I've had a few drinks already and am board!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Shut up

    Can't, I'm bitching like everyone that was yelling , "he doesn't want black people coming to his games" "what he doesn't want to sell tickets to black people"    what a lie!!!!!!!!!

    besides I've had a few drinks already and am board!

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 7:23 PM ET #7

    What did he say that was wrong?
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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 7:30 PM ET #8

    Nothing ! He didn't say it to the public
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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 7:34 PM ET #9

    Sterling is going to come out of this owning the CLippers. This smoke screen of transfer ownership to wife is just to allow the nba to save face now and wipe the egg of their face. The nba has buried itself by getting involved in what most amounts to be a civil matter. Sterling could have been drunk, enraged, irate, etc etc when he uttered those words and like hos lawyer said, there is not a court in U.S. that will rip ownership away from him with the draconian nba rules.

     

    NBA R.I.P

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    Sterling is going to come out of this owning the CLippers. This smoke screen of transfer ownership to wife is just to allow the nba to save face now and wipe the egg of their face. The nba has buried itself by getting involved in what most amounts to be a civil matter. Sterling could have been drunk, enraged, irate, etc etc when he uttered those words and like hos lawyer said, there is not a court in U.S. that will rip ownership away from him with the draconian nba rules.

     

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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 7:44 PM ET #10

    this whole thing has been blown out of proportion as does everything in the media these days. news is not news anymore. its tabloid.

    btw why do people refer to the word niggerr as "the n word". why cant they just say the word? as long as its not being directed at somebody there should be nothing wrong with using the word. black people gotta stop crying. my ancestors were probably raped and pillaged and slaved by vikings but I dont hold it against nordic people.
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    this whole thing has been blown out of proportion as does everything in the media these days. news is not news anymore. its tabloid.

    btw why do people refer to the word niggerr as "the n word". why cant they just say the word? as long as its not being directed at somebody there should be nothing wrong with using the word. black people gotta stop crying. my ancestors were probably raped and pillaged and slaved by vikings but I dont hold it against nordic people.
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2014 - 11:58 PM ET #11

    Fixed!!!! Sterling's ouster was fixed!!!!
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 12:50 AM ET #12

    Richard Lapchick is the endowed chair and director of the DeVos Sport Business Management Program. This program was founded by and is named for Richard DeVos and his wife, the owners of the Orlando Magic—a team that has already announced how it is going to vote in this matter. In view of this fact, it cannot be seriously contended that this “report” is neutral. Moreover, as discussed below, Mr. DeVos has made highly controversial comments against individuals with HIV/AIDS and generously supports anti-guy causes with impunity.

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    Richard Lapchick is the endowed chair and director of the DeVos Sport Business Management Program. This program was founded by and is named for Richard DeVos and his wife, the owners of the Orlando Magic—a team that has already announced how it is going to vote in this matter. In view of this fact, it cannot be seriously contended that this “report” is neutral. Moreover, as discussed below, Mr. DeVos has made highly controversial comments against individuals with HIV/AIDS and generously supports anti-guy causes with impunity.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 12:54 AM ET #13

    As the longest-tenured owners in the NBA, the Sterlings have employed five African American coaches, scores of African American players, an African American general manager who held that job for 22 years, and staff who helped the NBA receive a laudable “A+” in racial hiring practices. Indeed, Mr. Sterling recently terminated a Caucasian head coach and traded for anAfrican American head coach who is now among the most highly paid and respected in the league.   Sounds like a racist to me!!!

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    As the longest-tenured owners in the NBA, the Sterlings have employed five African American coaches, scores of African American players, an African American general manager who held that job for 22 years, and staff who helped the NBA receive a laudable “A+” in racial hiring practices. Indeed, Mr. Sterling recently terminated a Caucasian head coach and traded for anAfrican American head coach who is now among the most highly paid and respected in the league.   Sounds like a racist to me!!!

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 12:57 AM ET #14

    If the black guys don't want to play for Sterling, they can go get $10 hr janitor jobs. F' em.
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    If the black guys don't want to play for Sterling, they can go get $10 hr janitor jobs. F' em.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 1:01 AM ET #15

    unethical comment—even a private one—could become the basis for a forced termination.

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    unethical comment—even a private one—could become the basis for a forced termination.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 1:03 AM ET #16

    It is virtually inconceivable that Article II was intended to regulate a private lovers’ quarrel. This is apparent from the article’s language. Mr. Sterling was not “conducting” the “sport of professional basketball” when he was arguing with Ms. Stiviano in her living room. Under the Commissioner’s interpretation of Article II, any immoral or unethical comment—even a private one—could become the basis for a forced termination.

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    It is virtually inconceivable that Article II was intended to regulate a private lovers’ quarrel. This is apparent from the article’s language. Mr. Sterling was not “conducting” the “sport of professional basketball” when he was arguing with Ms. Stiviano in her living room. Under the Commissioner’s interpretation of Article II, any immoral or unethical comment—even a private one—could become the basis for a forced termination.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 1:06 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    If the black guys don't want to play for Sterling, they can go get $10 hr janitor jobs. F' em.

    F all the sheeple, including Obama!

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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    If the black guys don't want to play for Sterling, they can go get $10 hr janitor jobs. F' em.

    F all the sheeple, including Obama!

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 1:19 AM ET #18

    any offense, let alone an alleged private speech-related offense.The NBA claims a commitment to diversity and inclusion, but it appears to have ignored manypublic statements undermining those principles in the past. In fact, the only permanent bans ofrecord—other than the ban the Commissioner currently requests—involve gambling violationsand repeated violations of the NBA’s substance-abuse policy. And further, as far as Mr. Sterling is aware, no one in the NBA has ever been punished for speaking in a private constitutionally protected setting. In view of these facts, the Commissioner’s request to compel Mr. Sterling to sell the Los Angeles Clippers is internally inconsistent with prior punishments, is discriminatory, and is arbitrary and capricious.

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    any offense, let alone an alleged private speech-related offense.The NBA claims a commitment to diversity and inclusion, but it appears to have ignored manypublic statements undermining those principles in the past. In fact, the only permanent bans ofrecord—other than the ban the Commissioner currently requests—involve gambling violationsand repeated violations of the NBA’s substance-abuse policy. And further, as far as Mr. Sterling is aware, no one in the NBA has ever been punished for speaking in a private constitutionally protected setting. In view of these facts, the Commissioner’s request to compel Mr. Sterling to sell the Los Angeles Clippers is internally inconsistent with prior punishments, is discriminatory, and is arbitrary and capricious.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 1:33 AM ET #19

    It’s all right there in black and white (no pun intended): “If Mr. Sterling’s lovers’ tiff is a ‘position’ or ‘action,’ the NBA ownership should be put on notice that any of their private comments and conversations—including their most intimate—will now be considered a ‘position’ or ‘action’ under the Agreement and Undertaking, and if some of those comments happen to leak, it may become grounds for their termination as owners.”
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    It’s all right there in black and white (no pun intended): “If Mr. Sterling’s lovers’ tiff is a ‘position’ or ‘action,’ the NBA ownership should be put on notice that any of their private comments and conversations—including their most intimate—will now be considered a ‘position’ or ‘action’ under the Agreement and Undertaking, and if some of those comments happen to leak, it may become grounds for their termination as owners.”
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 2:51 AM ET #20

    It's pretty simple.

    If the NBA owners don't approve the removal of the Clippers from Sterling, then the black groups will go bonkers.  Lebron has already hinted at boycott.  Obama has spoken about this. I haven't started w/ Jesse Jackson and his cronies. They'll apply pressure against NBA sponsors, advertisers, etc, etc.

    In short, it'll cost the NBA a lot of  to do anything else.

    I don't care if Sterling said this to his priest or psychologist.  The bottom line is that his racist words are  public.  Coupled with his past racist history, there's no way the NBA can sit idly by. Otherwise, everyone will call the NBA a racist organization.  Against blacks.  Or 90% of the players.

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    It's pretty simple.

    If the NBA owners don't approve the removal of the Clippers from Sterling, then the black groups will go bonkers.  Lebron has already hinted at boycott.  Obama has spoken about this. I haven't started w/ Jesse Jackson and his cronies. They'll apply pressure against NBA sponsors, advertisers, etc, etc.

    In short, it'll cost the NBA a lot of  to do anything else.

    I don't care if Sterling said this to his priest or psychologist.  The bottom line is that his racist words are  public.  Coupled with his past racist history, there's no way the NBA can sit idly by. Otherwise, everyone will call the NBA a racist organization.  Against blacks.  Or 90% of the players.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 8:34 AM ET #21

    Sterling is finished, game over. Move on please lol
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    Sterling is finished, game over. Move on please lol
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 9:02 AM ET #22

    1. He is bad for business.

    2. The only "constitution" that needs to be worried about is the NBA constitution, which EVERY owners signs on for.

    3. Sponsers were fleeing like rats on a ship. Why don't you talk to them? It is guilt by association.

    4. Players, and some coaches, don't want to play for the man. How many free agents do you think will sign? How bad does it have to be for ANYBODY not wanting to play in LA?

    5. Sterling had to go through at least half a dozen law firms just to find ONE that would attempt to defend him? How bad does your case have to be where even a lawyer doesn't want your money?
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    1. He is bad for business.

    2. The only "constitution" that needs to be worried about is the NBA constitution, which EVERY owners signs on for.

    3. Sponsers were fleeing like rats on a ship. Why don't you talk to them? It is guilt by association.

    4. Players, and some coaches, don't want to play for the man. How many free agents do you think will sign? How bad does it have to be for ANYBODY not wanting to play in LA?

    5. Sterling had to go through at least half a dozen law firms just to find ONE that would attempt to defend him? How bad does your case have to be where even a lawyer doesn't want your money?
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 9:11 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    F all the sheeple, including Obama!



    I'm surprised it took this many posts to mention the president, which effectively proved my original point.  The OP is a racist and a troll.

    Sterling is done.  He will take his billion dollars but he'll be ousted from the NBA forever.

    The lawsuit is frivolous and has no merit.  All it is doing is giving the racists like the OP false hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    F all the sheeple, including Obama!



    I'm surprised it took this many posts to mention the president, which effectively proved my original point.  The OP is a racist and a troll.

    Sterling is done.  He will take his billion dollars but he'll be ousted from the NBA forever.

    The lawsuit is frivolous and has no merit.  All it is doing is giving the racists like the OP false hope.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 9:13 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Can any person that is a minority really say they are offended by Donald's remarks in this situation?



    This is a question to ask to someone white, since whites are the true minority group on Earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Can any person that is a minority really say they are offended by Donald's remarks in this situation?



    This is a question to ask to someone white, since whites are the true minority group on Earth.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 9:16 AM ET #25

    The players will play and the coaches will coach. Because other than the elite players who have endorsements and other avenues for income most of these players only play basketball with no degree. They will shut up and play in the long run. Otherwise there is plenty of basketball players waiting to.take their place.
    Plus lebron already said publicly that he never said anything about a boycott....and he hopes it gets settled family
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    The players will play and the coaches will coach. Because other than the elite players who have endorsements and other avenues for income most of these players only play basketball with no degree. They will shut up and play in the long run. Otherwise there is plenty of basketball players waiting to.take their place.
    Plus lebron already said publicly that he never said anything about a boycott....and he hopes it gets settled family
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