Yesterday 1-0 Suns +6. The Clippers ruined 80% of NBA 3 team Parlay Cards. By being backed by about 82% of the public as an individual play this was a total public shellacking.
Today's early fade candidate is the Miami Heat. I have them being backed at 65% right now but the line has dropped from -10 pts to -9.5 to attract even more Heat money? The Heat simply are not the same team as last yr. Wade is a shell, does Mike Miller still play there? Ray Allen is just another guy now. Meanwhile Detroit is invested, playing as a team and rolling after their horrific start. I think Detroit is "undervalued" right now. Lets see where the line goes before deciding how many units. Lets also see where the Lakers line opens at, I have nothing yet.
Please provide feedback, the goal of my thread is to generate ideas, exchange info and beat the book at their own game. I've been a contrarian for yrs and win more than I lose but I'd like to take it to another level as we all would or we wouldn't be here. Cheers
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Yesterday 1-0 Suns +6. The Clippers ruined 80% of NBA 3 team Parlay Cards. By being backed by about 82% of the public as an individual play this was a total public shellacking.
Today's early fade candidate is the Miami Heat. I have them being backed at 65% right now but the line has dropped from -10 pts to -9.5 to attract even more Heat money? The Heat simply are not the same team as last yr. Wade is a shell, does Mike Miller still play there? Ray Allen is just another guy now. Meanwhile Detroit is invested, playing as a team and rolling after their horrific start. I think Detroit is "undervalued" right now. Lets see where the line goes before deciding how many units. Lets also see where the Lakers line opens at, I have nothing yet.
Please provide feedback, the goal of my thread is to generate ideas, exchange info and beat the book at their own game. I've been a contrarian for yrs and win more than I lose but I'd like to take it to another level as we all would or we wouldn't be here. Cheers
Also 85% of the Public on Road Favorite OKC -9. The line is moving in the right direction on this one though opening at -8.5. Can 85% of the "Public" be correct, or is this just the squarest bet on the board?
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Also 85% of the Public on Road Favorite OKC -9. The line is moving in the right direction on this one though opening at -8.5. Can 85% of the "Public" be correct, or is this just the squarest bet on the board?
Also 85% of the Public on Road Favorite OKC -9. The line is moving in the right direction on this one though opening at -8.5. Can 85% of the "Public" be correct, or is this just the squarest bet on the board?
At 9 thats a pretty sharp number, thats what I came up with and thats after considering the fatigue factor for OKC. I definitely think its going to be a high scoring game and am considering the over.
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Quote Originally Posted by Slim-Daddy:
Also 85% of the Public on Road Favorite OKC -9. The line is moving in the right direction on this one though opening at -8.5. Can 85% of the "Public" be correct, or is this just the squarest bet on the board?
At 9 thats a pretty sharp number, thats what I came up with and thats after considering the fatigue factor for OKC. I definitely think its going to be a high scoring game and am considering the over.
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Big Unit I agree- I see back door potential here. Scotty Brooks if thee up 15-18 going into the 4th may sit his starters until it gets down to 4-6 pts....
I definitely don't see a Clippers vs Phx type game where it's a dogfight the whole way.
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Big Unit I agree- I see back door potential here. Scotty Brooks if thee up 15-18 going into the 4th may sit his starters until it gets down to 4-6 pts....
I definitely don't see a Clippers vs Phx type game where it's a dogfight the whole way.
Slim, nice play last night! I went 3-1, with only loss being Clippers. I'll admit, I dont fully understand line movement as it's not really in my style of play...but I cant argue with results, I'm tailing you bud.
I'm liking DET alot for a number of reasons. Both teams on equal day of rest, DET is not a marquee match up so the crowd will not show up. MIA had to go to OT to beat TOR, Lebron and D Wade had to give 110% as well.
One more thing I'm loving about DET is how they match up. Down low DET has the guys to bang, and the perimeter game to go up big. I see MIA coming back to win, again, with a strong effort by Wade/James...and eeking out a 5 point win.
I've also got two buddies from Mizzou playing tonight in Demarre Carroll (UTAH) and Kim English (DET), backing both of them.
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Slim, nice play last night! I went 3-1, with only loss being Clippers. I'll admit, I dont fully understand line movement as it's not really in my style of play...but I cant argue with results, I'm tailing you bud.
I'm liking DET alot for a number of reasons. Both teams on equal day of rest, DET is not a marquee match up so the crowd will not show up. MIA had to go to OT to beat TOR, Lebron and D Wade had to give 110% as well.
One more thing I'm loving about DET is how they match up. Down low DET has the guys to bang, and the perimeter game to go up big. I see MIA coming back to win, again, with a strong effort by Wade/James...and eeking out a 5 point win.
I've also got two buddies from Mizzou playing tonight in Demarre Carroll (UTAH) and Kim English (DET), backing both of them.
I'm also noticing 60% of the public is on GSW +2.5 on the road after two big wins. I'm sensing a definitive trap, CHI plays a completely different style than LAC and OKC. I'm locking in CHI at 1 unit now.
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Forbes--your making alota sense.
I'm also noticing 60% of the public is on GSW +2.5 on the road after two big wins. I'm sensing a definitive trap, CHI plays a completely different style than LAC and OKC. I'm locking in CHI at 1 unit now.
I'm also noticing 60% of the public is on GSW +2.5 on the road after two big wins. I'm sensing a definitive trap, CHI plays a completely different style than LAC and OKC. I'm locking in CHI at 1 unit now.
So if the spread opened up at GS +2...and move's to +2.5 is that moving the "right way" for GS, or CHI if the majority of bettors are on GS? This is where I get lost.
Did you factor the public being on GS to Luol Deng being out...thats my main reason for leaning GS on this one. Yes...CHI is over the last 5 games limiting less 3pt% from 32% to 24% last 5 games (I think alot of that was LAL tho)...but giving up more points over all in that last 5. Plus I KNOW CHI plays defense like no one GS has seen, but Golden State shoots the long ball like no one CHI has seen.
Good luck to you man, really appreciate the work you put in. General consensus between you, me and the sports wizard have me feeling 90% on DET.
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Quote Originally Posted by Slim-Daddy:
Forbes--your making alota sense.
I'm also noticing 60% of the public is on GSW +2.5 on the road after two big wins. I'm sensing a definitive trap, CHI plays a completely different style than LAC and OKC. I'm locking in CHI at 1 unit now.
So if the spread opened up at GS +2...and move's to +2.5 is that moving the "right way" for GS, or CHI if the majority of bettors are on GS? This is where I get lost.
Did you factor the public being on GS to Luol Deng being out...thats my main reason for leaning GS on this one. Yes...CHI is over the last 5 games limiting less 3pt% from 32% to 24% last 5 games (I think alot of that was LAL tho)...but giving up more points over all in that last 5. Plus I KNOW CHI plays defense like no one GS has seen, but Golden State shoots the long ball like no one CHI has seen.
Good luck to you man, really appreciate the work you put in. General consensus between you, me and the sports wizard have me feeling 90% on DET.
Forbes in your scenario with the majority of the money on GSW the line should be from +2 to +1.5. They should be getting less points.
Look at it this way if the public is pounding them at +2.5 and the book truly wanted a 50/50 split the would try to attract more CHI money meaning they would give CHI less pts to cover than more.
In your scenario the are actually giving GSW more coverage room from +2 to +2.5 meaning that more of the public would be more likely to go with them. Making those that already bet a 2 possibly place another wager at 2.5. This is the very definition the Book Laying the perfect trap.
Some buy into some don't but it's been a consistent winner for me. Think of how hard it is to bet against your better judgement. Think about OKC the last few days or PHX last night.I think its the key to breaking to 60%. If you are automatically at 50% as an avg wagerer how do you break thru? You have to almost wager against your own gut. The RLM is a guide when to do so.
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Forbes in your scenario with the majority of the money on GSW the line should be from +2 to +1.5. They should be getting less points.
Look at it this way if the public is pounding them at +2.5 and the book truly wanted a 50/50 split the would try to attract more CHI money meaning they would give CHI less pts to cover than more.
In your scenario the are actually giving GSW more coverage room from +2 to +2.5 meaning that more of the public would be more likely to go with them. Making those that already bet a 2 possibly place another wager at 2.5. This is the very definition the Book Laying the perfect trap.
Some buy into some don't but it's been a consistent winner for me. Think of how hard it is to bet against your better judgement. Think about OKC the last few days or PHX last night.I think its the key to breaking to 60%. If you are automatically at 50% as an avg wagerer how do you break thru? You have to almost wager against your own gut. The RLM is a guide when to do so.
I think I got you, so the logic behind this is the books want action on SAC...but the public is already on OKC and the line is moving down making it easier to take OKC.
So in this scenario the play to make is SAC+8? Or am I reading you wrong? Is this what "reverse line movement" is because the line SHOULD be going up for OKC making it harder to pick them. Thanks for elaborating, I've been gaming since college but never really got into an every day thing until this NFL season. Learning a ton, but the guts always kept me above 60%.
I'm pretty confident in OKC, but I gotta respect your move on this one. The line is jumping a ton. GL tonight man, DET!
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I think I got you, so the logic behind this is the books want action on SAC...but the public is already on OKC and the line is moving down making it easier to take OKC.
So in this scenario the play to make is SAC+8? Or am I reading you wrong? Is this what "reverse line movement" is because the line SHOULD be going up for OKC making it harder to pick them. Thanks for elaborating, I've been gaming since college but never really got into an every day thing until this NFL season. Learning a ton, but the guts always kept me above 60%.
I'm pretty confident in OKC, but I gotta respect your move on this one. The line is jumping a ton. GL tonight man, DET!
The line is moving down to attract more action on OKC, -8.5 is a better wager for OKC followers than -9.
Yes the wager here would be Sac for RLM believers. Thats a tough pill to swallow, I will admit that but I think it's a better play than even Det. My reasoning is OKC is on the road at the end of a long trip. They generally come to play every night but if there was a night when they may not show up tonight may be it.
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Forbes--
The line is moving down to attract more action on OKC, -8.5 is a better wager for OKC followers than -9.
Yes the wager here would be Sac for RLM believers. Thats a tough pill to swallow, I will admit that but I think it's a better play than even Det. My reasoning is OKC is on the road at the end of a long trip. They generally come to play every night but if there was a night when they may not show up tonight may be it.
Thanks man, I get it now. When the public is already on a team, and the books make it easier to take the betting community favorite...fade them because they're not about to lose mega bucks on a gimme. Got you, finally got you!
All in all, I'm gonna stick with OKC tonight...I just see too many tangible factors leaning OKC's way. Last 3 legit teams that SAC faced blew them out of the water (MEM twice, MIA, BKN...maybe N.O. now), and OKC has lost some big matchups against western contenders. I'm gonna enjoy seeing how this experiment works out! GL luck again man, good to see a few good guys posting some good info!
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Thanks man, I get it now. When the public is already on a team, and the books make it easier to take the betting community favorite...fade them because they're not about to lose mega bucks on a gimme. Got you, finally got you!
All in all, I'm gonna stick with OKC tonight...I just see too many tangible factors leaning OKC's way. Last 3 legit teams that SAC faced blew them out of the water (MEM twice, MIA, BKN...maybe N.O. now), and OKC has lost some big matchups against western contenders. I'm gonna enjoy seeing how this experiment works out! GL luck again man, good to see a few good guys posting some good info!
I can't believe your so successful Forbes but don't know about this stuff lol
Trust me, I cant believe it either. It chalk up my LITTLE success (my units are still only worth $50) to research, match-ups, tailing people that know what they're doing, asking for advice, and watching a ton of games. BTW, best avatar on the forum.
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Quote Originally Posted by BradyWearsUGGZ:
I can't believe your so successful Forbes but don't know about this stuff lol
Trust me, I cant believe it either. It chalk up my LITTLE success (my units are still only worth $50) to research, match-ups, tailing people that know what they're doing, asking for advice, and watching a ton of games. BTW, best avatar on the forum.
OKC down to 8.5 in some places 8. with 80% plus of the Public on OKC whats this telling you?????/
BLOODBATH
Thoughts?
actually, its going back to 9. havent seen it at 8 anywhere through the major books although betonline had it at 7.5 but jumped it to 8.5 quick, mustve been some kind of error.
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Quote Originally Posted by Slim-Daddy:
OKC down to 8.5 in some places 8. with 80% plus of the Public on OKC whats this telling you?????/
BLOODBATH
Thoughts?
actually, its going back to 9. havent seen it at 8 anywhere through the major books although betonline had it at 7.5 but jumped it to 8.5 quick, mustve been some kind of error.
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