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    RAPTORS VS. HEAT: Round 2 - Series Bet

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    begginerboy
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    Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 4:28 PM ET #76

    Scal, I'm pulling for you. Would love to see LBJ face his old team (just as the NBA would:) Kind of reminds me of that series Brooklyn won in Toronto (when they got all the calls), because everyone wanted to see Nets vs Heat (though it didn't turn out to be a great series). Good luck! 
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    Scal, I'm pulling for you. Would love to see LBJ face his old team (just as the NBA would:) Kind of reminds me of that series Brooklyn won in Toronto (when they got all the calls), because everyone wanted to see Nets vs Heat (though it didn't turn out to be a great series). Good luck! 
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 6:00 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Scal, I'm pulling for you. Would love to see LBJ face his old team (just as the NBA would:) Kind of reminds me of that series Brooklyn won in Toronto (when they got all the calls), because everyone wanted to see Nets vs Heat (though it didn't turn out to be a great series). Good luck! 

    Agreed BB. It's got Nets Raptors Game 7 written all over it.

    And I believe the NBA wanted GS/Spurs, the two greatest combined records in a conference finals in history, but couldn't have that because OKC absolutely bludgeoned them right out of the gate to prevent any ref shenanigans later (knowing full well not only did they prefer SA/GS, but that Game 7 viewership gold). Now that's taking your destiny into your own hands. Wasn't too happy about it as you know. OKC/GS is no small consolation though. 

    All Pop had to do was give Andre Miller more minutes and the Spurs would have taken it down.


    Ben, agree on all points.

    Wade 6 fouls! Lowry 20+
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Scal, I'm pulling for you. Would love to see LBJ face his old team (just as the NBA would:) Kind of reminds me of that series Brooklyn won in Toronto (when they got all the calls), because everyone wanted to see Nets vs Heat (though it didn't turn out to be a great series). Good luck! 

    Agreed BB. It's got Nets Raptors Game 7 written all over it.

    And I believe the NBA wanted GS/Spurs, the two greatest combined records in a conference finals in history, but couldn't have that because OKC absolutely bludgeoned them right out of the gate to prevent any ref shenanigans later (knowing full well not only did they prefer SA/GS, but that Game 7 viewership gold). Now that's taking your destiny into your own hands. Wasn't too happy about it as you know. OKC/GS is no small consolation though. 

    All Pop had to do was give Andre Miller more minutes and the Spurs would have taken it down.


    Ben, agree on all points.

    Wade 6 fouls! Lowry 20+
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 6:24 PM ET #78

    Yeah but Toronto may have a groove in lowery/derozan.plus Toronto on their home court no way refs stop that.they got what they wanted a that was a game 7.scal your still a great capper but hey we all are wrong sometimes.then u hear a lot of people talk of wade/LeBron match up why would people want to see that when Cleveland clearly has the advantage all over the court I would understand if teams would be evenly matched.by the way I surely thought spurs vs warriors would be epic guess not.
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    Yeah but Toronto may have a groove in lowery/derozan.plus Toronto on their home court no way refs stop that.they got what they wanted a that was a game 7.scal your still a great capper but hey we all are wrong sometimes.then u hear a lot of people talk of wade/LeBron match up why would people want to see that when Cleveland clearly has the advantage all over the court I would understand if teams would be evenly matched.by the way I surely thought spurs vs warriors would be epic guess not.
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 8:53 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Special25:

    Yeah but Toronto may have a groove in lowery/derozan.plus Toronto on their home court no way refs stop that.they got what they wanted a that was a game 7.scal your still a great capper but hey we all are wrong sometimes.then u hear a lot of people talk of wade/LeBron match up why would people want to see that when Cleveland clearly has the advantage all over the court I would understand if teams would be evenly matched.by the way I surely thought spurs vs warriors would be epic guess not.

     

    Ya gotta remember, Derozan is playing injured:

    https://espn.go.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/19900/thanks-to-red-shoelace-demar-derozan-raptors-one-win-from-east-finals

    Lowry was playing injured which contributed to a prolonged slump but that injury appears to be long gone.

    Carroll is not right. Can't really pinpoint what is wrong with him.

    Jonas is out obviously.

    You don't want to have to lean on Joseph, Ross, Biyambo and Patterson in a game like this.

    Would I rather have all the above healthy and have a healthy Whiteside? Yes. That's how I capped it originally before any injuries (except Lowry who came in less than 100%). But I'll take what is on my betting plate now.

    It was going a minimum six either way so I'm not bothered by 7.

     

    And the refs played a nice little role in stopping Toronto late in Game 7 two years ago on their home court. No reason they can't/won't do it again with LBJ looming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Special25:

    Yeah but Toronto may have a groove in lowery/derozan.plus Toronto on their home court no way refs stop that.they got what they wanted a that was a game 7.scal your still a great capper but hey we all are wrong sometimes.then u hear a lot of people talk of wade/LeBron match up why would people want to see that when Cleveland clearly has the advantage all over the court I would understand if teams would be evenly matched.by the way I surely thought spurs vs warriors would be epic guess not.

     

    Ya gotta remember, Derozan is playing injured:

    https://espn.go.com/blog/nba/post/_/id/19900/thanks-to-red-shoelace-demar-derozan-raptors-one-win-from-east-finals

    Lowry was playing injured which contributed to a prolonged slump but that injury appears to be long gone.

    Carroll is not right. Can't really pinpoint what is wrong with him.

    Jonas is out obviously.

    You don't want to have to lean on Joseph, Ross, Biyambo and Patterson in a game like this.

    Would I rather have all the above healthy and have a healthy Whiteside? Yes. That's how I capped it originally before any injuries (except Lowry who came in less than 100%). But I'll take what is on my betting plate now.

    It was going a minimum six either way so I'm not bothered by 7.

     

    And the refs played a nice little role in stopping Toronto late in Game 7 two years ago on their home court. No reason they can't/won't do it again with LBJ looming.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 8:57 PM ET #80

    And just to reiterate, we all know the league loves game 7's so we shouldn't be surprised some calls went the Heat's way in Game 6. When you take the Raptors in game 6 or 7, be prepared to have to deal with calls like this. THIS should be in your spread and cap!

    An embarrassing example of ref outcome manipulation right here:

    https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1026521

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    And just to reiterate, we all know the league loves game 7's so we shouldn't be surprised some calls went the Heat's way in Game 6. When you take the Raptors in game 6 or 7, be prepared to have to deal with calls like this. THIS should be in your spread and cap!

    An embarrassing example of ref outcome manipulation right here:

    https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1026521

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 9:35 PM ET #81

    U know what scale I've played ball throughout my life and I would  rather have derozan, lowery,Bismack  and company on their home court.now away I would Def say heat win.but it seems when refs get caught making bad calls on a team the next game is almost always in their favor.so you are right nba wanted game 7,as to heat winning I'm not so sure seems to me heat would have been up 3-2 going to Miami for game 6.playing injured is all apart of basketball no one is technically 100% it's more about who wants it an game 7 will determine that.
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    U know what scale I've played ball throughout my life and I would  rather have derozan, lowery,Bismack  and company on their home court.now away I would Def say heat win.but it seems when refs get caught making bad calls on a team the next game is almost always in their favor.so you are right nba wanted game 7,as to heat winning I'm not so sure seems to me heat would have been up 3-2 going to Miami for game 6.playing injured is all apart of basketball no one is technically 100% it's more about who wants it an game 7 will determine that.
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 9:41 PM ET #82

    Yeah, I think Toronto has a better chance vs Lebron James. 
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    Yeah, I think Toronto has a better chance vs Lebron James. 
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2016 - 11:55 PM ET #83

    Scal....in your crystal ball do you see the Heat winning game 7??....This is a tough one for them......
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    Scal....in your crystal ball do you see the Heat winning game 7??....This is a tough one for them......
     
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    SCAL, I agree with every point that you made. I feel like the small ball lineup will work once again for the Heat. Game 7, everything on the line I trust the Heat and a better coach in Spo. The really limited the offensive rebounds by Toronto in game 6 and I see them doing it once again.All of the pressure is on Toronto at this point. They are the number 2 seed, rarely advance in the playoffs, and not many of their players have valuable playoff experience. Miami has been in this scenario before just last round down 3-2 against Charlotte. Yes the circumstances are different without Whiteside and Toronto is a different team, but Miami has to be feeling confident at this point. Coach Casey knew how important it was to close out the seris in game 6 and I feel like he is anxious for this game. I look for Miami to advance tomorrow. Either way, it has been a great series SCAL, lets go HEAT!
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    SCAL, I agree with every point that you made. I feel like the small ball lineup will work once again for the Heat. Game 7, everything on the line I trust the Heat and a better coach in Spo. The really limited the offensive rebounds by Toronto in game 6 and I see them doing it once again.All of the pressure is on Toronto at this point. They are the number 2 seed, rarely advance in the playoffs, and not many of their players have valuable playoff experience. Miami has been in this scenario before just last round down 3-2 against Charlotte. Yes the circumstances are different without Whiteside and Toronto is a different team, but Miami has to be feeling confident at this point. Coach Casey knew how important it was to close out the seris in game 6 and I feel like he is anxious for this game. I look for Miami to advance tomorrow. Either way, it has been a great series SCAL, lets go HEAT!
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 12:00 AM ET #85

    And i hope Winslow plays tough on both sides of the floor.....he's a key also......BOL to us...
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    And i hope Winslow plays tough on both sides of the floor.....he's a key also......BOL to us...
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 1:11 AM ET #86

    To the guys above: I'm not saying it will be easy. The line is reasonable. I just don't think it will matter. But there is no way in hell the Heat should be giving points here (like the Spurs were against OKC and even that was a bad line before the result). This should be a very tight game.

    I just think there will be too much pressure on Derozan and Lowry but for those that support them, of course you will be taking the better backcourt and the deeper team.

    Lmb, I don't like that Winslow is starting, especially at center. He has a much higher propensity to turn the ball over as a rookie. But the Heat have what they need on the court, have the coaching advantage, and the small ball lineup to succeed. They just have to execute. It's incredibly hard to win a game 7 on the road in the NBA. If this were the first round, I'd more be favoring Toronto given the drought that franchise had to win a first round series. But Toronto has neither the experience or history to win multiple game 7's and the series drought is now off their backs (which matters). Would not be shocked to see them win. I'm glad I have enough on the series to lay off the game but I have to stick with the bet. Won't be easy by any means. Will come down to big shots and late stops as expected which Miami is fully capable of executing with Wade, Goran and Co.

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    To the guys above: I'm not saying it will be easy. The line is reasonable. I just don't think it will matter. But there is no way in hell the Heat should be giving points here (like the Spurs were against OKC and even that was a bad line before the result). This should be a very tight game.

    I just think there will be too much pressure on Derozan and Lowry but for those that support them, of course you will be taking the better backcourt and the deeper team.

    Lmb, I don't like that Winslow is starting, especially at center. He has a much higher propensity to turn the ball over as a rookie. But the Heat have what they need on the court, have the coaching advantage, and the small ball lineup to succeed. They just have to execute. It's incredibly hard to win a game 7 on the road in the NBA. If this were the first round, I'd more be favoring Toronto given the drought that franchise had to win a first round series. But Toronto has neither the experience or history to win multiple game 7's and the series drought is now off their backs (which matters). Would not be shocked to see them win. I'm glad I have enough on the series to lay off the game but I have to stick with the bet. Won't be easy by any means. Will come down to big shots and late stops as expected which Miami is fully capable of executing with Wade, Goran and Co.

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 1:35 AM ET #87

    SCAL, it is early but do you have any early thoughts or leans for the OKC/Thunder matchup? Is it Golden States world and we are all just living in it or can they legitimately be beat by OKC or Cleveland? Thanks for the quality write ups and insights, always appreciate hearing your thoughts
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    SCAL, it is early but do you have any early thoughts or leans for the OKC/Thunder matchup? Is it Golden States world and we are all just living in it or can they legitimately be beat by OKC or Cleveland? Thanks for the quality write ups and insights, always appreciate hearing your thoughts
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 2:14 AM ET #88

    Scal...thanks for responding...just think its gonna be someone outside the box like Winslow or McRoberts to push it over the edge to the Heat....BOL...always appeciate your input....
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    Scal...thanks for responding...just think its gonna be someone outside the box like Winslow or McRoberts to push it over the edge to the Heat....BOL...always appeciate your input....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by marakeli:

    SCAL, it is early but do you have any early thoughts or leans for the OKC/Thunder matchup? Is it Golden States world and we are all just living in it or can they legitimately be beat by OKC or Cleveland? Thanks for the quality write ups and insights, always appreciate hearing your thoughts

    I already have a bet on Game 1 and will likely write it up. Just want to focus on this Game 7 first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marakeli:

    SCAL, it is early but do you have any early thoughts or leans for the OKC/Thunder matchup? Is it Golden States world and we are all just living in it or can they legitimately be beat by OKC or Cleveland? Thanks for the quality write ups and insights, always appreciate hearing your thoughts

    I already have a bet on Game 1 and will likely write it up. Just want to focus on this Game 7 first.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Scal...thanks for responding...just think its gonna be someone outside the box like Winslow or McRoberts to push it over the edge to the Heat....BOL...always appeciate your input....

    McRoberts had a nice little game last time out. Hopefully that gave him some confidence. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Scal...thanks for responding...just think its gonna be someone outside the box like Winslow or McRoberts to push it over the edge to the Heat....BOL...always appeciate your input....

    McRoberts had a nice little game last time out. Hopefully that gave him some confidence. 
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 3:38 AM ET #91

    forget everything u guys know..

    I TRUST DWADE MORE THAN ANYONE ON THE COURT
    DWADE > lowry derozan joseph ross etc

    everytime he handles the ball, i feel so much more confident. I will put my money on one of the most clutch players in the league/history. I rather lose money on Dwade than putting money on the raps lineup and say "wow what was i thinking" if they lose. 

    Dwade...

    Can you guys imagine if the heat win, lebron plays his old team against his best friend in the ECF. Can you imagine the headlines with Wade "Can he do it again by himself" just like in 06. This would be CRAZY. Nobody wants to see the raptors in the finals tbh. Dont care, Dwade ML

    Good luck Scal
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    forget everything u guys know..

    I TRUST DWADE MORE THAN ANYONE ON THE COURT
    DWADE > lowry derozan joseph ross etc

    everytime he handles the ball, i feel so much more confident. I will put my money on one of the most clutch players in the league/history. I rather lose money on Dwade than putting money on the raps lineup and say "wow what was i thinking" if they lose. 

    Dwade...

    Can you guys imagine if the heat win, lebron plays his old team against his best friend in the ECF. Can you imagine the headlines with Wade "Can he do it again by himself" just like in 06. This would be CRAZY. Nobody wants to see the raptors in the finals tbh. Dont care, Dwade ML

    Good luck Scal
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 4:29 AM ET #92

    agree heat +4.5  is the best play tomorrow
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    agree heat +4.5  is the best play tomorrow
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:41 AM ET #93

    I made this series bet once scal posted it, but at the moment this looks bad for us. I dont even think Heat once to advance just to be destroyed by cavs  and raptors have something to prove. It's also @toronto thats why I believe Heat will find no interest in winning this game, just my 2 cents, id hedge but  I dont didnt bet enough to care
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    I made this series bet once scal posted it, but at the moment this looks bad for us. I dont even think Heat once to advance just to be destroyed by cavs  and raptors have something to prove. It's also @toronto thats why I believe Heat will find no interest in winning this game, just my 2 cents, id hedge but  I dont didnt bet enough to care
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 9:07 AM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by Timsoek:

    Yeah, I think Toronto has a better chance vs Lebron James. 


    ?? are u serious ?? did u watch atlanta you have to be able to score against cavs to compete toronto bleeding shotclock every possesion for desperate fadeaway from derozan or lowery wont be pretty or competive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timsoek:

    Yeah, I think Toronto has a better chance vs Lebron James. 


    ?? are u serious ?? did u watch atlanta you have to be able to score against cavs to compete toronto bleeding shotclock every possesion for desperate fadeaway from derozan or lowery wont be pretty or competive
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 2:34 PM ET #95

    Here we go,  Snowmans in deep for Miami +170
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    Here we go,  Snowmans in deep for Miami +170
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 2:46 PM ET #96

    Scal, we all learning something new every time you post. thanks!

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    Scal, we all learning something new every time you post. thanks!

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 2:57 PM ET #97

    Quote Originally Posted by Jcarver:

    I made this series bet once scal posted it, but at the moment this looks bad for us. I dont even think Heat once to advance just to be destroyed by cavs  and raptors have something to prove. It's also @toronto thats why I believe Heat will find no interest in winning this game, just my 2 cents, id hedge but  I dont didnt bet enough to care


    You don't think the Heat want to advance to face the Cavs? LMAO. Where do you people come up with this? So they decided screw the conference finals but let's travel back and forth for Toronto 7 games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcarver:

    I made this series bet once scal posted it, but at the moment this looks bad for us. I dont even think Heat once to advance just to be destroyed by cavs  and raptors have something to prove. It's also @toronto thats why I believe Heat will find no interest in winning this game, just my 2 cents, id hedge but  I dont didnt bet enough to care


    You don't think the Heat want to advance to face the Cavs? LMAO. Where do you people come up with this? So they decided screw the conference finals but let's travel back and forth for Toronto 7 games?
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 4:44 PM ET #98

    Maybe drake will show up at halftime to mush them 
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    Maybe drake will show up at halftime to mush them 
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:17 PM ET #99

    Sorry bout this one guys. Very uncharacteristic for a team like Miami to throw in the towel like this.

    Series changed drastically over time with too many injuries to count and that is that is what you sign up for with a series bet. 

    Big turnoff to bet any series in the future.

    Maybe one more post on OKC GS Game 1 and that'll be it for the NBA this year. Then it's NFL/CFBB where things are a hell of a lot easier IMO.
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    Sorry bout this one guys. Very uncharacteristic for a team like Miami to throw in the towel like this.

    Series changed drastically over time with too many injuries to count and that is that is what you sign up for with a series bet. 

    Big turnoff to bet any series in the future.

    Maybe one more post on OKC GS Game 1 and that'll be it for the NBA this year. Then it's NFL/CFBB where things are a hell of a lot easier IMO.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2016 - 6:50 PM ET #100

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Sorry bout this one guys. Very uncharacteristic for a team like Miami to throw in the towel like this.

    Series changed drastically over time with too many injuries to count and that is that is what you sign up for with a series bet. 

    Big turnoff to bet any series in the future.

    Maybe one more post on OKC GS Game 1 and that'll be it for the NBA this year. Then it's NFL/CFBB where things are a hell of a lot easier IMO.

    Didn't really watch the game. Forwarded through it. Lots of foul shots for the Raps. In hindsight, Miami could not have competed with the Cavs (due to all the injuries). This might make for more compelling TV (the raps should win one game:). 

    I disagree with you regarding the Spurs 100%. I always felt the NBA wanted OKC and Warriors. That game on ABC that you capped was one of the best games of the season (playoffs included), featuring three out of the best five basketball players in the world (the other two being Leonard and James), in their prime. Nobody but basketball junkies wanted the Spurs to advance. Just look at all the game changing calls that went against the Spurs, at home no less. And trust me on this Scal, the Warriors would have destroyed them worse than the Thunder did (beating the Spurs in 5). Once they started to play every other day, the Spurs got old fast. 

    The Thunder are scary, and can actually beat the Warriors if they come through in crunch time. This series will go 6 or 7, and the Thunder will get a split after the first two games, though I'm not sure which one they win. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Sorry bout this one guys. Very uncharacteristic for a team like Miami to throw in the towel like this.

    Series changed drastically over time with too many injuries to count and that is that is what you sign up for with a series bet. 

    Big turnoff to bet any series in the future.

    Maybe one more post on OKC GS Game 1 and that'll be it for the NBA this year. Then it's NFL/CFBB where things are a hell of a lot easier IMO.

    Didn't really watch the game. Forwarded through it. Lots of foul shots for the Raps. In hindsight, Miami could not have competed with the Cavs (due to all the injuries). This might make for more compelling TV (the raps should win one game:). 

    I disagree with you regarding the Spurs 100%. I always felt the NBA wanted OKC and Warriors. That game on ABC that you capped was one of the best games of the season (playoffs included), featuring three out of the best five basketball players in the world (the other two being Leonard and James), in their prime. Nobody but basketball junkies wanted the Spurs to advance. Just look at all the game changing calls that went against the Spurs, at home no less. And trust me on this Scal, the Warriors would have destroyed them worse than the Thunder did (beating the Spurs in 5). Once they started to play every other day, the Spurs got old fast. 

    The Thunder are scary, and can actually beat the Warriors if they come through in crunch time. This series will go 6 or 7, and the Thunder will get a split after the first two games, though I'm not sure which one they win. 
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