If anyone watched the Bulls/Boston series, they saw Boston exert waaaaay to much energy...They played the equivelant of just under 8 games. 7 OT's in 7 games!?!?!? Boston is thin in the middle without garnett and Powe. Who is going to guard Howard? Perkins? 6'7' baby? the answer is no one. The Bulls exposed Boston and Orlando will finish them off. I am reading that Boston has experience, blah, blah, blah...There is no chance. They are old, undermaned and have no chance with Howard or Orlando in the next round. This is not the same "Championship" team as last year. They are older and not nearly as motivated.
You can cap these games til the fat lady looks hot, but the fact is, Boston won't have enough energ or depth to hang anywhere near Orlando...A sweep is not out of the question. Orlando isn't that much better than the Bulls, but since the Bulls punched Boston in the gut, we will see Orlando finish them ogg like Patrick Swayze in "Roadhouse".
I would love to hear opinions.
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If anyone watched the Bulls/Boston series, they saw Boston exert waaaaay to much energy...They played the equivelant of just under 8 games. 7 OT's in 7 games!?!?!? Boston is thin in the middle without garnett and Powe. Who is going to guard Howard? Perkins? 6'7' baby? the answer is no one. The Bulls exposed Boston and Orlando will finish them off. I am reading that Boston has experience, blah, blah, blah...There is no chance. They are old, undermaned and have no chance with Howard or Orlando in the next round. This is not the same "Championship" team as last year. They are older and not nearly as motivated.
You can cap these games til the fat lady looks hot, but the fact is, Boston won't have enough energ or depth to hang anywhere near Orlando...A sweep is not out of the question. Orlando isn't that much better than the Bulls, but since the Bulls punched Boston in the gut, we will see Orlando finish them ogg like Patrick Swayze in "Roadhouse".
thanks for posting 3 words that mean nothing without an explaination. All I ask is to hear reasoning behind any thoughts that you have. Saying so and so will win without any explaination is a waste of your time and mine. Is there anyone with reasoning why Boston will win?
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thanks for posting 3 words that mean nothing without an explaination. All I ask is to hear reasoning behind any thoughts that you have. Saying so and so will win without any explaination is a waste of your time and mine. Is there anyone with reasoning why Boston will win?
okay I have offered some words but i have a few more comments..
you are overemphasizing the fact that the celtics played some many over time games.. that is not what is going to cost them this series. Boston has a much better bench than orlando.. MUCH BETTER. you have to agree on that?
With howard in the lineup orlando plays at a slower pace and howard lives in the paint with absolutely no offensive game outside of it.
Boston also has the perimeter defense to limit orlando's three pointers.. I just dont understand what people see in this team.. howard has a great series against philly but he was up against dalembert come on now?
I hate both these teams as I was rooting for chicago but i just think boston is the better team with a better coach. The lack of rest might actually be in their favor.
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okay I have offered some words but i have a few more comments..
you are overemphasizing the fact that the celtics played some many over time games.. that is not what is going to cost them this series. Boston has a much better bench than orlando.. MUCH BETTER. you have to agree on that?
With howard in the lineup orlando plays at a slower pace and howard lives in the paint with absolutely no offensive game outside of it.
Boston also has the perimeter defense to limit orlando's three pointers.. I just dont understand what people see in this team.. howard has a great series against philly but he was up against dalembert come on now?
I hate both these teams as I was rooting for chicago but i just think boston is the better team with a better coach. The lack of rest might actually be in their favor.
Mikki Moore will get alot of minutes. He is decent and good for six fouls. The Celtics need to cut Marbury from their rotation. He is a useless cancer. I would say Orlando takes it in 6 games.
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Mikki Moore will get alot of minutes. He is decent and good for six fouls. The Celtics need to cut Marbury from their rotation. He is a useless cancer. I would say Orlando takes it in 6 games.
i'm kicking myself a little bit for not jumping on the Celts at +1050 to win the title... getting by Orlando without KG isn't a big deal... and if there is even a small chance he will be back for the conference finals (even by game 3), 10 to 1 is amazing value...
i think only the fatigue factor gives Orlando a chance... otherwise i think Boston would end it without much trouble...
i'm guessing Celtics in 6...
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Boston will win!
i'm kicking myself a little bit for not jumping on the Celts at +1050 to win the title... getting by Orlando without KG isn't a big deal... and if there is even a small chance he will be back for the conference finals (even by game 3), 10 to 1 is amazing value...
i think only the fatigue factor gives Orlando a chance... otherwise i think Boston would end it without much trouble...
Chicago posed so many more problematic matchups for Boston than Orlando does... this is really a much more favorable opponent... just look at the season series...
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Chicago posed so many more problematic matchups for Boston than Orlando does... this is really a much more favorable opponent... just look at the season series...
The celtics are absolutely nothing to hold up against the Magic, both teams are average as shit, but the Magic are at full strenghth. They will win the Series
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The celtics are absolutely nothing to hold up against the Magic, both teams are average as shit, but the Magic are at full strenghth. They will win the Series
POINT 1... Boston have home court POINT 2... Orlando cant score as much as Chicago, dats y they struggled POINT 3... Boston have better supporting cast POINT 4... They are the defending champs POINT 5... David Stern want them to play Lebron in the conference finals. If he didn't they would have lost to Chicago, He have multiple chances to suspend RONDO for game 7 but he didn't, they clearly want Boston to win and cover.
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POINT 1... Boston have home court POINT 2... Orlando cant score as much as Chicago, dats y they struggled POINT 3... Boston have better supporting cast POINT 4... They are the defending champs POINT 5... David Stern want them to play Lebron in the conference finals. If he didn't they would have lost to Chicago, He have multiple chances to suspend RONDO for game 7 but he didn't, they clearly want Boston to win and cover.
You are all entitled to your opinion but i have a few issues..."Mikki Moore is a decent player" Come on...The Celtics have the biggest set of clowns playing in the middle. I respect all of you on this forum and I am not trying to be a jerk, I just have the complete opposite opinion than all of you. Paul Pirece wasn't interested in the first series at all. Yes he scored some points, but he is not the same player as last year. Mikki Moore hardly got in the game vs. the Bulls. If the Bulls had any inside presence vs. Boston, the series would have been over in 6. We will just have to see how it turns out. I obviously will be on Orlando. I cany believe that almost everyone is on Boston after the sub par series they just played.
Night all. No harm no foul.
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You are all entitled to your opinion but i have a few issues..."Mikki Moore is a decent player" Come on...The Celtics have the biggest set of clowns playing in the middle. I respect all of you on this forum and I am not trying to be a jerk, I just have the complete opposite opinion than all of you. Paul Pirece wasn't interested in the first series at all. Yes he scored some points, but he is not the same player as last year. Mikki Moore hardly got in the game vs. the Bulls. If the Bulls had any inside presence vs. Boston, the series would have been over in 6. We will just have to see how it turns out. I obviously will be on Orlando. I cany believe that almost everyone is on Boston after the sub par series they just played.
If anyone watched the Bulls/Boston series, they saw Boston exert waaaaay to much energy...They played the equivelant of just under 8 games. 7 OT's in 7 games!?!?!? Boston is thin in the middle without garnett and Powe. Who is going to guard Howard? Perkins? 6'7' baby? the answer is no one. The Bulls exposed Boston and Orlando will finish them off. I am reading that Boston has experience, blah, blah, blah...There is no chance. They are old, undermaned and have no chance with Howard or Orlando in the next round. This is not the same "Championship" team as last year. They are older and not nearly as motivated.
You can cap these games til the fat lady looks hot, but the fact is, Boston won't have enough energ or depth to hang anywhere near Orlando...A sweep is not out of the question. Orlando isn't that much better than the Bulls, but since the Bulls punched Boston in the gut, we will see Orlando finish them ogg like Patrick Swayze in "Roadhouse".
I would love to hear opinions.
exactly my read of the matchup
had to that that orlando wants to get out of the fking 2nd round more than ever and you'll see a team way hungrier than a boston that has had already its chip last year and don't beleive in its chance to go far with a team that banged up
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Quote Originally Posted by Meathook13:
If anyone watched the Bulls/Boston series, they saw Boston exert waaaaay to much energy...They played the equivelant of just under 8 games. 7 OT's in 7 games!?!?!? Boston is thin in the middle without garnett and Powe. Who is going to guard Howard? Perkins? 6'7' baby? the answer is no one. The Bulls exposed Boston and Orlando will finish them off. I am reading that Boston has experience, blah, blah, blah...There is no chance. They are old, undermaned and have no chance with Howard or Orlando in the next round. This is not the same "Championship" team as last year. They are older and not nearly as motivated.
You can cap these games til the fat lady looks hot, but the fact is, Boston won't have enough energ or depth to hang anywhere near Orlando...A sweep is not out of the question. Orlando isn't that much better than the Bulls, but since the Bulls punched Boston in the gut, we will see Orlando finish them ogg like Patrick Swayze in "Roadhouse".
I would love to hear opinions.
exactly my read of the matchup
had to that that orlando wants to get out of the fking 2nd round more than ever and you'll see a team way hungrier than a boston that has had already its chip last year and don't beleive in its chance to go far with a team that banged up
I respect all of you on this forum and I am not trying to be a jerk, I just have the complete opposite opinion than all of you. Paul Pirece wasn't interested in the first series at all. Yes he scored some points, but he is not the same player as last year.
really??? this can not be a part of your reasoning! he wasn't interested in the first round?
look! this is a remedial lesson in gambling... do not EVER make the mistake of assuming that a temporarily slumping (slightly) player is no longer a superstar and can't turn it on again... do you not recall the same being said about Ray Allen after the first couple rounds last year?
seriously! do not go there! you are making a fatal error!
Pierce was not "Pierce" in the first round because the red light wasn't on... he is a player who thrives in pressure situations, and the fact is, the Celts played "C" grade basketball through the first round and still beat the Bulls... Pierce was not "Pierce" because they didn't need him to be in order to dispose of the Bulls... when it's time for the Cavs and Lakers, Pierce will be center stage...
why would he suddenly be washed up? that's just seriously flawed handicapping, man! the players are streaky... but i guarantee the minute you assume a streaky player has lost his shot, is exactly when he is going to light you up!
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Quote Originally Posted by Meathook13:
I respect all of you on this forum and I am not trying to be a jerk, I just have the complete opposite opinion than all of you. Paul Pirece wasn't interested in the first series at all. Yes he scored some points, but he is not the same player as last year.
really??? this can not be a part of your reasoning! he wasn't interested in the first round?
look! this is a remedial lesson in gambling... do not EVER make the mistake of assuming that a temporarily slumping (slightly) player is no longer a superstar and can't turn it on again... do you not recall the same being said about Ray Allen after the first couple rounds last year?
seriously! do not go there! you are making a fatal error!
Pierce was not "Pierce" in the first round because the red light wasn't on... he is a player who thrives in pressure situations, and the fact is, the Celts played "C" grade basketball through the first round and still beat the Bulls... Pierce was not "Pierce" because they didn't need him to be in order to dispose of the Bulls... when it's time for the Cavs and Lakers, Pierce will be center stage...
why would he suddenly be washed up? that's just seriously flawed handicapping, man! the players are streaky... but i guarantee the minute you assume a streaky player has lost his shot, is exactly when he is going to light you up!
really??? this can not be a part of your reasoning! he wasn't interested in the first round?
look! this is a remedial lesson in gambling... do not EVER make the mistake of assuming that a temporarily slumping (slightly) player is no longer a superstar and can't turn it on again... do you not recall the same being said about Ray Allen after the first couple rounds last year?
seriously! do not go there! you are making a fatal error!
Pierce was not "Pierce" in the first round because the red light wasn't on... he is a player who thrives in pressure situations, and the fact is, the Celts played "C" grade basketball through the first round and still beat the Bulls... Pierce was not "Pierce" because they didn't need him to be in order to dispose of the Bulls... when it's time for the Cavs and Lakers, Pierce will be center stage...
why would he suddenly be washed up? that's just seriously flawed handicapping, man! the players are streaky... but i guarantee the minute you assume a streaky player has lost his shot, is exactly when he is going to light you up!
Respectfully disagree. Pierce was a step slow ALL series. He is in the twilight of his career. He is not the self proclaimed "best player in the nba" He doesn't have the guy who made him the best he ever was in Garnett. I have been at this a looong time. Please don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about. I watched Pierce march to the championship last year, and I also watched him decline as a player this year. He doesn't have the motivation to get better after he won a championship. He chose to enjoy it and get "fat". His ultimate goal in his career was to win ONE championship. His goal was never to win TWO championships...Not to mention last year he had Garnett who also was trying to win his only championship...You can now replace Garnet with Perkins and Scalabrini...Not even close...You can not watch a Celtics game and tell me he hasn't lost a step. If he didn't explode or dominate in the first round, what makes you think he is going to turn it up an do it in the second round...The guy is not the same player. He was happy with the ONE championship and doesn't have the motivation to win a second one...Cut and dry. If he did, he would have beat the Bulls in 5 games by simply taking over games like he used to 5 years ago. He is not the same player.
The fact that you say the Celtics played a "c" series against the Bulls and still won is great. What makes you think that the Celtics can turn around after playing all of those stressful extra minutes and play an "A" series against Orlando. It isn't going to happen. you can thumbs down me all day, but I have stated nothing but facts.
Good luck to you. you will need it betting on Boston.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
really??? this can not be a part of your reasoning! he wasn't interested in the first round?
look! this is a remedial lesson in gambling... do not EVER make the mistake of assuming that a temporarily slumping (slightly) player is no longer a superstar and can't turn it on again... do you not recall the same being said about Ray Allen after the first couple rounds last year?
seriously! do not go there! you are making a fatal error!
Pierce was not "Pierce" in the first round because the red light wasn't on... he is a player who thrives in pressure situations, and the fact is, the Celts played "C" grade basketball through the first round and still beat the Bulls... Pierce was not "Pierce" because they didn't need him to be in order to dispose of the Bulls... when it's time for the Cavs and Lakers, Pierce will be center stage...
why would he suddenly be washed up? that's just seriously flawed handicapping, man! the players are streaky... but i guarantee the minute you assume a streaky player has lost his shot, is exactly when he is going to light you up!
Respectfully disagree. Pierce was a step slow ALL series. He is in the twilight of his career. He is not the self proclaimed "best player in the nba" He doesn't have the guy who made him the best he ever was in Garnett. I have been at this a looong time. Please don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about. I watched Pierce march to the championship last year, and I also watched him decline as a player this year. He doesn't have the motivation to get better after he won a championship. He chose to enjoy it and get "fat". His ultimate goal in his career was to win ONE championship. His goal was never to win TWO championships...Not to mention last year he had Garnett who also was trying to win his only championship...You can now replace Garnet with Perkins and Scalabrini...Not even close...You can not watch a Celtics game and tell me he hasn't lost a step. If he didn't explode or dominate in the first round, what makes you think he is going to turn it up an do it in the second round...The guy is not the same player. He was happy with the ONE championship and doesn't have the motivation to win a second one...Cut and dry. If he did, he would have beat the Bulls in 5 games by simply taking over games like he used to 5 years ago. He is not the same player.
The fact that you say the Celtics played a "c" series against the Bulls and still won is great. What makes you think that the Celtics can turn around after playing all of those stressful extra minutes and play an "A" series against Orlando. It isn't going to happen. you can thumbs down me all day, but I have stated nothing but facts.
Good luck to you. you will need it betting on Boston.
I think Reddick will be a great asset for Orlando. The Bulls were able to drive and kick very successfully last series. Boston will have to make a choice and make sure they dont double Howard with Reddicks man. If they do, Howard is smart enough to find Reddick for three. To be honest, I have hated Reddick since I saw his ugly face playing for Duke. But I do respect his marksmanship.
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I think Reddick will be a great asset for Orlando. The Bulls were able to drive and kick very successfully last series. Boston will have to make a choice and make sure they dont double Howard with Reddicks man. If they do, Howard is smart enough to find Reddick for three. To be honest, I have hated Reddick since I saw his ugly face playing for Duke. But I do respect his marksmanship.
Mikki Moore will get alot of minutes. He is decent and good for six fouls. The Celtics need to cut Marbury from their rotation. He is a useless cancer. I would say Orlando takes it in 6 games.
Yeah no doubt. I've never seen Marbury do something good and Im dead serious when I say that because Ive only watched him this series.
Celtics got a shot if big baby/Perkins can keep Howard out of the paint.
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Quote Originally Posted by mamatheregoes:
Mikki Moore will get alot of minutes. He is decent and good for six fouls. The Celtics need to cut Marbury from their rotation. He is a useless cancer. I would say Orlando takes it in 6 games.
Yeah no doubt. I've never seen Marbury do something good and Im dead serious when I say that because Ive only watched him this series.
Celtics got a shot if big baby/Perkins can keep Howard out of the paint.
How can you say Pierce wasn't interested in the Bulls series? That's nonsense. Let's give credit where credit is due: The Bulls D played excellent against him. Their gameplan was to take Pierce out of the game and make Ray Allen, who normally doesn't shoot well in the playoffs, beat them. Guess what Ray Allen came through. Now Allen has confidence in his shot for the Orlando series unlike last season where he struggled.
Orlando will be hurting at the guard position because Courtney Lee and Jameer Nelson are gone. Don't under estimate this point. Also Orlando gives up big leads as Philly came back on them a few times. IMO this series goes 7 games, just like every other Celtics series. As for the Celtics being tired - I say this quite a bit, basketball players are thoroughbreds and can run all day long. As long as noone gets an injury, sprained ankle or knee, being tired is a non entity.
Lastly, the Celtics gameplan will be to go at Howard and get him in foul trouble. I'd be more concerned backing an Orlando team minus Howard, Lee, and Nelson on the floor.
GL
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How can you say Pierce wasn't interested in the Bulls series? That's nonsense. Let's give credit where credit is due: The Bulls D played excellent against him. Their gameplan was to take Pierce out of the game and make Ray Allen, who normally doesn't shoot well in the playoffs, beat them. Guess what Ray Allen came through. Now Allen has confidence in his shot for the Orlando series unlike last season where he struggled.
Orlando will be hurting at the guard position because Courtney Lee and Jameer Nelson are gone. Don't under estimate this point. Also Orlando gives up big leads as Philly came back on them a few times. IMO this series goes 7 games, just like every other Celtics series. As for the Celtics being tired - I say this quite a bit, basketball players are thoroughbreds and can run all day long. As long as noone gets an injury, sprained ankle or knee, being tired is a non entity.
Lastly, the Celtics gameplan will be to go at Howard and get him in foul trouble. I'd be more concerned backing an Orlando team minus Howard, Lee, and Nelson on the floor.
Yeah no doubt. I've never seen Marbury do something good and Im dead serious when I say that because Ive only watched him this series.
Celtics got a shot if big baby/Perkins can keep Howard out of the paint.
With 25 seconds left last night Marbury stepped up to the foul line and calmly sank 2 free throws to increase the lead to 8. Just because he isn't putting up big offensive numbers don't overlook the little things....especially at critical times of a game.
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Quote Originally Posted by slikstiks99:
Yeah no doubt. I've never seen Marbury do something good and Im dead serious when I say that because Ive only watched him this series.
Celtics got a shot if big baby/Perkins can keep Howard out of the paint.
With 25 seconds left last night Marbury stepped up to the foul line and calmly sank 2 free throws to increase the lead to 8. Just because he isn't putting up big offensive numbers don't overlook the little things....especially at critical times of a game.
The Bulls gave the Celtics a run for their money because it was a bad matchup of playing styles for the C's. Bulls love to run and when they did, they built up leads against the C's. When they stopped running and playing at a frenetic pace, they lost leads (and eventually the series). The Bulls-C's series was a clear case of experience being more valuable than youthful energy and athleticism.
Orlando plays a half-court game and the C's half-court defense is their bread and butter, even without KG.
Hedo cannot check Pierce and will get owned and exposed over the course of an extended series.
I expect Rondo to dominate Alston as well. They both play playground style ball, but Rondo is smarter, quicker and more athletic overall.
This is Courtney Lee's 1st playoffs and Ray Allen will have him running in circles. Even if Lee is more athletic, the Magic don't and won't run a bunch of plays for him.
Big Baby will take the weak defending Lewis in the paint early and often. Davis is a more than capable defender against Lewis and Lewis is content to stay on the outside and chuck 3 pointers instead of drive to the hole.
Perk will be solid as usual. Howard may get double-doubles in every game, but that is expected and not a key to winning the series......unless he averages 40-20.
Orlando's bench is nothing to be concerned about. Neither is the Celtics, but they are battle tested and show up in big games.
Coaching no question goes to Rivers.
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The Bulls gave the Celtics a run for their money because it was a bad matchup of playing styles for the C's. Bulls love to run and when they did, they built up leads against the C's. When they stopped running and playing at a frenetic pace, they lost leads (and eventually the series). The Bulls-C's series was a clear case of experience being more valuable than youthful energy and athleticism.
Orlando plays a half-court game and the C's half-court defense is their bread and butter, even without KG.
Hedo cannot check Pierce and will get owned and exposed over the course of an extended series.
I expect Rondo to dominate Alston as well. They both play playground style ball, but Rondo is smarter, quicker and more athletic overall.
This is Courtney Lee's 1st playoffs and Ray Allen will have him running in circles. Even if Lee is more athletic, the Magic don't and won't run a bunch of plays for him.
Big Baby will take the weak defending Lewis in the paint early and often. Davis is a more than capable defender against Lewis and Lewis is content to stay on the outside and chuck 3 pointers instead of drive to the hole.
Perk will be solid as usual. Howard may get double-doubles in every game, but that is expected and not a key to winning the series......unless he averages 40-20.
Orlando's bench is nothing to be concerned about. Neither is the Celtics, but they are battle tested and show up in big games.
The fact that the Celtics are the Champions still and will be VERY difficult for ANYONE to beat. Come on guy, writing off the Celtics so quickly is whack!!
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What did the Bulls "expose" in the Celtics?
The fact that the Celtics are the Champions still and will be VERY difficult for ANYONE to beat. Come on guy, writing off the Celtics so quickly is whack!!
We will see gentlemen. All I can say is what I saw. Boston is not near the same team they were last year. You are entitled to your opinions and we can go back and forth all day...But we won't see who is right until they play the games. I expect Boston to win the first game, but Orlando to take care of business after that. Good luck to all.
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We will see gentlemen. All I can say is what I saw. Boston is not near the same team they were last year. You are entitled to your opinions and we can go back and forth all day...But we won't see who is right until they play the games. I expect Boston to win the first game, but Orlando to take care of business after that. Good luck to all.
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