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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:20 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    You asked my opinion. 9 times out of 10 in this same exact situation, I have the Spurs covering this situation.

    I'd like to know how I am throwing my own "cred" out the window by giving my opinion....

    Please answer that.




    kapono & NoFumbles make great points.

    SB there is a reason that only knowledgeable cappers are questioning you, and it's all prospects that have joined in the last 2 months that are kissing your feet. I respect your record, but at the same time this just doesn't make sense. Some cappers choose to rate their plays on a 1-5 unit scale, which is what you do. So I'm just trying to understand how a play you feel has a 90% chance to cover is only worthy of a 1 unit play? I believe the point of having a variation in units is to put more units on the plays you feel you have a greater chance of winning. If you truly believed this play has a 90% chance of winning, then it would no doubt warrant a 5 unit play, hell at 90% may as well throw 10u on it. Your come back is bankroll management, but that just doesn't add up. I think we can all agree that it is extremely rare for a play to have a 90% chance of winning, and if it did, the odds certainly wouldn't be (-110) with a -3 point spread. Again, this isn't a shot at you, but rather applying logic to your statement. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    You asked my opinion. 9 times out of 10 in this same exact situation, I have the Spurs covering this situation.

    I'd like to know how I am throwing my own "cred" out the window by giving my opinion....

    Please answer that.




    kapono & NoFumbles make great points.

    SB there is a reason that only knowledgeable cappers are questioning you, and it's all prospects that have joined in the last 2 months that are kissing your feet. I respect your record, but at the same time this just doesn't make sense. Some cappers choose to rate their plays on a 1-5 unit scale, which is what you do. So I'm just trying to understand how a play you feel has a 90% chance to cover is only worthy of a 1 unit play? I believe the point of having a variation in units is to put more units on the plays you feel you have a greater chance of winning. If you truly believed this play has a 90% chance of winning, then it would no doubt warrant a 5 unit play, hell at 90% may as well throw 10u on it. Your come back is bankroll management, but that just doesn't add up. I think we can all agree that it is extremely rare for a play to have a 90% chance of winning, and if it did, the odds certainly wouldn't be (-110) with a -3 point spread. Again, this isn't a shot at you, but rather applying logic to your statement. Good luck.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:20 PM ET #127

    Thanks for posting man.  I was getting worried that you left.  Spurs for one unit sounds good to me.  BOL sb.

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    Thanks for posting man.  I was getting worried that you left.  Spurs for one unit sounds good to me.  BOL sb.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:22 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleible1:

    Plus he gave reasons behind the 1U play!!!!!!  And i apologize, your goal is +100 units, idk why i thought i read +50 was your goal for the season, my bad! 

    I think people over-analyze every word...

    Slow and steady wins the race!

     

    My goal at the start of the season was 50u.

    Being that I am at 83, I am saying if I was to get to 100 in the regular I would stop, until the playoffs.

    That is another reason why some of these plays aren't graded higher.

    We all are going to lose games, and if this play was to lose, I'm not going in for 4 or 5u. I'm trying to maximize my roll and this is how I do it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleible1:

    Plus he gave reasons behind the 1U play!!!!!!  And i apologize, your goal is +100 units, idk why i thought i read +50 was your goal for the season, my bad! 

    I think people over-analyze every word...

    Slow and steady wins the race!

     

    My goal at the start of the season was 50u.

    Being that I am at 83, I am saying if I was to get to 100 in the regular I would stop, until the playoffs.

    That is another reason why some of these plays aren't graded higher.

    We all are going to lose games, and if this play was to lose, I'm not going in for 4 or 5u. I'm trying to maximize my roll and this is how I do it.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:22 PM ET #129

    GL Today SB... Thank you for your hard work..

    On SA with ya...they will keep it close and I'm waiting to see if it jumps to 4.. or im gonna buy it up...agree?

    GL buddy and lets keep rollin..rollin..

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    GL Today SB... Thank you for your hard work..

    On SA with ya...they will keep it close and I'm waiting to see if it jumps to 4.. or im gonna buy it up...agree?

    GL buddy and lets keep rollin..rollin..

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:28 PM ET #130

    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    My goal at the start of the season was 50u.

    Being that I am at 83, I am saying if I was to get to 100 in the regular I would stop, until the playoffs.

    That is another reason why some of these plays aren't graded higher.

    We all are going to lose games, and if this play was to lose, I'm not going in for 4 or 5u. I'm trying to maximize my roll and this is how I do it.


     

     

    Yea, well that post was kinda an addon to my post that was like 3 behind it.....i understand the 1U play........

    Im not here to bust balls or question your thinking or criticize in anyway.   I just come in the forums to read your thread and your opinion, along with some others.  I feel this is what everyone should be doing.  Make some convo about the pick if needed, but most people can be really annoying with the analyzing of every word.

     

    again, most people in this thread should read this:

     

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=101264839

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    My goal at the start of the season was 50u.

    Being that I am at 83, I am saying if I was to get to 100 in the regular I would stop, until the playoffs.

    That is another reason why some of these plays aren't graded higher.

    We all are going to lose games, and if this play was to lose, I'm not going in for 4 or 5u. I'm trying to maximize my roll and this is how I do it.


     

     

    Yea, well that post was kinda an addon to my post that was like 3 behind it.....i understand the 1U play........

    Im not here to bust balls or question your thinking or criticize in anyway.   I just come in the forums to read your thread and your opinion, along with some others.  I feel this is what everyone should be doing.  Make some convo about the pick if needed, but most people can be really annoying with the analyzing of every word.

     

    again, most people in this thread should read this:

     

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=22&sub=101264839

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:29 PM ET #131

    @ Sleible: I don't know how much is his unit and I don't care. We are talking about picking games, you can have a 10k unit for all I care.

    I'm 63% for the season, 118-65 since I registered on covers, all documented here, I'm up 8.3k for the season, all documented on my twitter account which you can find at my profile, on my playbook.

    So, if one has to have a good record to debate upon everything betting related, I do believe I am qualified. 

    Check my wagering system and how much I bet (65 bets so far this season) and I think I know one or two things about money management and picking winners.

    I was just questioning SB's thinking, 90% sure on the pick and a 1u play. 
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    @ Sleible: I don't know how much is his unit and I don't care. We are talking about picking games, you can have a 10k unit for all I care.

    I'm 63% for the season, 118-65 since I registered on covers, all documented here, I'm up 8.3k for the season, all documented on my twitter account which you can find at my profile, on my playbook.

    So, if one has to have a good record to debate upon everything betting related, I do believe I am qualified. 

    Check my wagering system and how much I bet (65 bets so far this season) and I think I know one or two things about money management and picking winners.

    I was just questioning SB's thinking, 90% sure on the pick and a 1u play. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:30 PM ET #132

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:




    Come on man, you are throwing all of your credibility out of the window with this statement.

    90 out of a 100 might a hyperbole, but really, he's not ruining "all" his credibility.  You're throwing out your credibility by claiming he's throwing out his credibility. 

    smartbet's record speaks for itself.  Plus, he's given solid reasoning in the past for his plays - whether it's matchups or situations - that often times have worked out. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:




    Come on man, you are throwing all of your credibility out of the window with this statement.

    90 out of a 100 might a hyperbole, but really, he's not ruining "all" his credibility.  You're throwing out your credibility by claiming he's throwing out his credibility. 

    smartbet's record speaks for itself.  Plus, he's given solid reasoning in the past for his plays - whether it's matchups or situations - that often times have worked out. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:33 PM ET #133

    What's the B.S here man. lol

    first of, the fact that SmartBets always remind people to bet wise and check it with the right money management is already a reminder.

    The fact that he says, and most of us know, even if he state this will be a 90% or 100% hit, who'll believe that? Is he bragging? guys try to ask a misleading question and fish for a would be fault!

    come on, guys like to fish for fault here and made it a topic and issue to attack.

    If there is a play and he thinks 9 out of 10 times he will choose that play which is SPURS....

    So what's wrong with that....

    9 out of 10 can be break down in different situation.

    if guy expecting a baby is coming and he need a every penny to saved and every penny is important to gain... Then, if before if that 9 out of 10 feel is a 5 unit play, now it would be a 1 unit play!!!!!!

    Why? because a baby is coming and he needs every penny and the risk factor would be in check much serious now that a baby is coming would be another factor on how to play the game. lol

    Yah feel it yeah? thats 1 example.

    a baby coming sometimes is part of what you throw for a unit in a play. lol true man true.

    You'll be more cautious. lol

    so people don't need to explain everything around here, i think Smarts explained it enough, why the dig huh?

    So yah know yah expect a baby , a 10 unit play before will now be a 1 unit play because a baby is coming or a bicycle will be purchase now as your hard earn goal will came true.

    So there is always a factor coming around, and guys don't need to dig everything. LOL

    about the baby its just an example yah know




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    What's the B.S here man. lol

    first of, the fact that SmartBets always remind people to bet wise and check it with the right money management is already a reminder.

    The fact that he says, and most of us know, even if he state this will be a 90% or 100% hit, who'll believe that? Is he bragging? guys try to ask a misleading question and fish for a would be fault!

    come on, guys like to fish for fault here and made it a topic and issue to attack.

    If there is a play and he thinks 9 out of 10 times he will choose that play which is SPURS....

    So what's wrong with that....

    9 out of 10 can be break down in different situation.

    if guy expecting a baby is coming and he need a every penny to saved and every penny is important to gain... Then, if before if that 9 out of 10 feel is a 5 unit play, now it would be a 1 unit play!!!!!!

    Why? because a baby is coming and he needs every penny and the risk factor would be in check much serious now that a baby is coming would be another factor on how to play the game. lol

    Yah feel it yeah? thats 1 example.

    a baby coming sometimes is part of what you throw for a unit in a play. lol true man true.

    You'll be more cautious. lol

    so people don't need to explain everything around here, i think Smarts explained it enough, why the dig huh?

    So yah know yah expect a baby , a 10 unit play before will now be a 1 unit play because a baby is coming or a bicycle will be purchase now as your hard earn goal will came true.

    So there is always a factor coming around, and guys don't need to dig everything. LOL

    about the baby its just an example yah know




     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:33 PM ET #134

    The line has moved to 3.5...which means the real sharps are hitting this hard toward philly...

    Spurs 4-8 on the road and due for a loss....sixers 13-3 at home....there is nothing smart about this bet....
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    The line has moved to 3.5...which means the real sharps are hitting this hard toward philly...

    Spurs 4-8 on the road and due for a loss....sixers 13-3 at home....there is nothing smart about this bet....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:34 PM ET #136

    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    no one needs to "understand" my line of reasoning or my thought my process.

    The fact that smartbets is on the Spurs, should be enough.



    that's the fkn truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    no one needs to "understand" my line of reasoning or my thought my process.

    The fact that smartbets is on the Spurs, should be enough.



    that's the fkn truth.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:37 PM ET #137

    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    no one needs to "understand" my line of reasoning or my thought my process.

    The fact that smartbets is on the Spurs, should be enough.

    Couldnt agree more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    no one needs to "understand" my line of reasoning or my thought my process.

    The fact that smartbets is on the Spurs, should be enough.

    Couldnt agree more.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:42 PM ET #138

    Quote Originally Posted by Pottleade1:

    The line has moved to 3.5...which means the real sharps are hitting this hard toward philly...

    Spurs 4-8 on the road and due for a loss....sixers 13-3 at home....there is nothing smart about this bet....
    except for the fact that the line opened at 4.5, now tell me where the money is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottleade1:

    The line has moved to 3.5...which means the real sharps are hitting this hard toward philly...

    Spurs 4-8 on the road and due for a loss....sixers 13-3 at home....there is nothing smart about this bet....
    except for the fact that the line opened at 4.5, now tell me where the money is.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:45 PM ET #139

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Hey, I've never held myself out to be some grand expert, just a dude who is trying to improve his capping game. You are allowed to have your opinion just like I am allowed to have mine. I make plays to try to stay sharp and for fun right now at this point in my life with a child on the way that is going to eat up much of my previously available burn/entertainment money.

    I guess that makes my picks somehow less valid in your mind. So be it.



    Put it this way.

    a 5 unit play now turn to 1 unit play even if 9 out of 10 times he play Spurs in this situation.

    BECAUSE: MAYBE

    He too expects a baby is coming somethin like that.

    and the fact that yah open up things here by asking him when did he starts talking about himself in third person??? is not the way you starts things up if you really are looking for a fact here. lol

    How do yah like opening up that question to the great MAFIOSO MAKAVELI here huh, will it bring a positive atmosphere yah think?

    I don't think so Kapono, i don't think so.

    You, you.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Hey, I've never held myself out to be some grand expert, just a dude who is trying to improve his capping game. You are allowed to have your opinion just like I am allowed to have mine. I make plays to try to stay sharp and for fun right now at this point in my life with a child on the way that is going to eat up much of my previously available burn/entertainment money.

    I guess that makes my picks somehow less valid in your mind. So be it.



    Put it this way.

    a 5 unit play now turn to 1 unit play even if 9 out of 10 times he play Spurs in this situation.

    BECAUSE: MAYBE

    He too expects a baby is coming somethin like that.

    and the fact that yah open up things here by asking him when did he starts talking about himself in third person??? is not the way you starts things up if you really are looking for a fact here. lol

    How do yah like opening up that question to the great MAFIOSO MAKAVELI here huh, will it bring a positive atmosphere yah think?

    I don't think so Kapono, i don't think so.

    You, you.....


     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:49 PM ET #140

    Who cares how much he has on this game. worry about your own bank rolls! GL Smartbets! Im ridin' wit ya.


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    Who cares how much he has on this game. worry about your own bank rolls! GL Smartbets! Im ridin' wit ya.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:54 PM ET #141

    All the haters coming in here and trying to bash u should make u feel a lot better about ur play... from what ive seen on this site numerous times if everyone tells u ur wrong then ur more than likely right... u have an angle on this game and u shouldnt have to continually justify ur picks ur record speaks for itself bro...

    BOL bro but haters are gonna hate thats what they do just brush ur shoulders off and keep doing ur thing


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    All the haters coming in here and trying to bash u should make u feel a lot better about ur play... from what ive seen on this site numerous times if everyone tells u ur wrong then ur more than likely right... u have an angle on this game and u shouldnt have to continually justify ur picks ur record speaks for itself bro...

    BOL bro but haters are gonna hate thats what they do just brush ur shoulders off and keep doing ur thing


     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:54 PM ET #142

    Smart bets is giving his validation and opinion. He is not saying I'm always right follow my picks I'm the best capper on covers. He clearly states I'm putting one unit on spurs due to their on the road and respect for Philly at home. If you guys don't like his pick or opinion bet Philly plain and simple. It's gambling nothing is guaranteed were all trying to make money either way choose the team you like and do your research as well win or lose. No one is correct all the time we all just want different perspectives and edge on games before we bet. 
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    Smart bets is giving his validation and opinion. He is not saying I'm always right follow my picks I'm the best capper on covers. He clearly states I'm putting one unit on spurs due to their on the road and respect for Philly at home. If you guys don't like his pick or opinion bet Philly plain and simple. It's gambling nothing is guaranteed were all trying to make money either way choose the team you like and do your research as well win or lose. No one is correct all the time we all just want different perspectives and edge on games before we bet. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 1:55 PM ET #143

    My buddy got some situations before...........

    9 out of 10 times a play that he thinks will cover, he throw 10 units, but suddenly sht happens and he throw a 1 unit play!!!!!! WHY? WHY?

    1. He expects a baby is coming and play it with more cautious as he needs every penny

    2. a Bicycle he dreams is within reach, and he become more cautious as he's salary has been hold

    3. he dreams of a monster turning the play around and will lose

    4. headache not a good sign every time headache comes

    5. he got plenty to do tomorrow and don't want to see a play get moose and lose

    6. he feels like, he doesn't want to be greedy for a day, sort of to win the next play

    7. a baby is coming

    8. another baby is coming

    yah know, so many personal things happening yah know.

    Not all things should be confess, this is not a confession room. who said that

    9. a baby is coming

    10. another baby from another mother is coming.

    Yah know, things like that.
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    My buddy got some situations before...........

    9 out of 10 times a play that he thinks will cover, he throw 10 units, but suddenly sht happens and he throw a 1 unit play!!!!!! WHY? WHY?

    1. He expects a baby is coming and play it with more cautious as he needs every penny

    2. a Bicycle he dreams is within reach, and he become more cautious as he's salary has been hold

    3. he dreams of a monster turning the play around and will lose

    4. headache not a good sign every time headache comes

    5. he got plenty to do tomorrow and don't want to see a play get moose and lose

    6. he feels like, he doesn't want to be greedy for a day, sort of to win the next play

    7. a baby is coming

    8. another baby is coming

    yah know, so many personal things happening yah know.

    Not all things should be confess, this is not a confession room. who said that

    9. a baby is coming

    10. another baby from another mother is coming.

    Yah know, things like that.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:08 PM ET #144

    gL...
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:16 PM ET #145

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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:17 PM ET #146

    GL on HOME TEAM PHILLY
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:20 PM ET #147

    I am glad people understand my explanation regarding the situation around here and got every point that i stated. 

    Thank you very much and thank me for enlightening your views about the 90% or 9 out of 10 times issue that guys been interrogating.


    Next issue:

    The guys kissing the feet issue.... hmmmm...

    just call me if yah need enlightenment and I'll be there.

    Just call my name, and I'll be there....




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    I am glad people understand my explanation regarding the situation around here and got every point that i stated. 

    Thank you very much and thank me for enlightening your views about the 90% or 9 out of 10 times issue that guys been interrogating.


    Next issue:

    The guys kissing the feet issue.... hmmmm...

    just call me if yah need enlightenment and I'll be there.

    Just call my name, and I'll be there....




     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:44 PM ET #148

    Good luck SmartBets
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:55 PM ET #149

    Hey SB I have been following you for a couple of weeks now I do know how you make your picks or anything but I do know somehow you be right on with your picks. I was just wondering if you think the spurs will win or just cover.

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    Hey SB I have been following you for a couple of weeks now I do know how you make your picks or anything but I do know somehow you be right on with your picks. I was just wondering if you think the spurs will win or just cover.

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2012 - 2:57 PM ET #150

    Quote Originally Posted by tsum05:

    Hey SB I have been following you for a couple of weeks now I don't know how you make your picks or anything but I do know somehow you be right on with your picks. I was just wondering if you think the spurs will win or just cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsum05:

    Hey SB I have been following you for a couple of weeks now I don't know how you make your picks or anything but I do know somehow you be right on with your picks. I was just wondering if you think the spurs will win or just cover.

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