This is a real tricky slate of games today, I think the spreads are getting fined tuned. The spreads are very very accurate. Vegas will get a lot today as the accuracy in my opinion is spot on. There is a way around it, it's not smart nor is it something you can do often but I am going to tease some games both ways. It could backfire on me but if my capping is correct these games should be very close to the ATS spreads that are set, minimal movements on the lines should prove this tomorrow. Hopefully. Here we go:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GS WARRIORS - 1.0 - - - Here is my one and only ATS play for the night, the Warriors are a good team. Better then most think, better then I thought. I though Baron made this team but guys like Jackson are the true leaders of this team. They have a lot of swagger and pride and know the Griz just beat the Magic in MEM. They know they have to ease up on 3's and play better defense. This was all evident with a good fundamental win in NJ. After their loss to TOR they brought it together and shot much better vs NJ. Better decisions led to a victory. If they get their heads together, trade Harrington and Monta Ellis and bring a top tier player on their squad this GS team can be deadly. Watch for Azubuike, and Rook Eric Gordon to make some noise against a young inexperienced Memphis backcourt. GS wins in what should be a close game. WARRIORS 3.0 UNITS - - - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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This is a real tricky slate of games today, I think the spreads are getting fined tuned. The spreads are very very accurate. Vegas will get a lot today as the accuracy in my opinion is spot on. There is a way around it, it's not smart nor is it something you can do often but I am going to tease some games both ways. It could backfire on me but if my capping is correct these games should be very close to the ATS spreads that are set, minimal movements on the lines should prove this tomorrow. Hopefully. Here we go:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GS WARRIORS - 1.0 - - - Here is my one and only ATS play for the night, the Warriors are a good team. Better then most think, better then I thought. I though Baron made this team but guys like Jackson are the true leaders of this team. They have a lot of swagger and pride and know the Griz just beat the Magic in MEM. They know they have to ease up on 3's and play better defense. This was all evident with a good fundamental win in NJ. After their loss to TOR they brought it together and shot much better vs NJ. Better decisions led to a victory. If they get their heads together, trade Harrington and Monta Ellis and bring a top tier player on their squad this GS team can be deadly. Watch for Azubuike, and Rook Eric Gordon to make some noise against a young inexperienced Memphis backcourt. GS wins in what should be a close game. WARRIORS 3.0 UNITS - - - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - PHI - 6, GS + 5.5 - - -I
am pounding this Philly game on teasers, I would take the - 12 spread
but John Salmons always plays very well in Philly against his former
team. GS at + 5.5 is a good bet, if GS does somehow loose I doubt it
will be more then that. These are two games when I wouldn't go the
other way on teasers. 2 UNITS - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - PHI - 6,CLE + 8.5 - - -
Again the Philly play. I doubt Sacto can stay close against this
talented Philly team. King and his boys will play well in Dallas, I
just do not trust this Dallas team. Mo Williams has impressed me a
lot, CLE's depth has also impressed me, CLE will keep this close. 1.5 UNITS - - - 2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - PHI - 6,ORL - 1 - - - Chicago
will cause problems for the Magic. Nevertheless the Magic basically
have a 7 man rotation. Orlando plays their starters heavy minutes each
game. Nelson will shoot better, Lewis and Hedo will play well,
Superman will eat the block up and their under-the-radar pickup in
Mikel Pietrus will shine. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - CHA + 12, GS + 5.5 - - - Here
is the switch, I like DET to win the game, but also think CHA can stay
within 12 points. Will be playing DET in teasers as well. Combining
it with a strong play as GS should win in MEM. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - DET - 1.0, CHI + 13 - - - Here
is another switch up, this is more risky as I do think ORL has the
capability to blow out the Bulls, however I do believe in this Bulls
team and think they can keep it close. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - ORL - 1, DET@CHA OVER 179 - - - My
first teaser mixed with ATS and total. I like the DET@CHA OVER play
just not enough for a straight wager. Gonna play a few teasers with
this total. DET has scored 100 in all their games this season, under
the helm of Michal Curry they continue to run and score. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - GS + 5.5, DET@CHA OVER 179 - - - Not much to say here, GS POD combined with what should be an easy over. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT TEASER - - - PHI - 6, DET@CHA OVER 179 - - -
That is 4 teasers that rely on Philly, that is 5 units on them, I just
think it is better then putting 5 units on - 12. My way of thinking I
guess. 1 UNIT - - - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well that is all folkes, I know it's
a lot of teasers and not really anything else except for the obvious GS
play. Despite the public on it, it doesn't matter, it is a good bet
but MEM should not be under-estimated and the line is accurate as this
will be a close one. BOL to all my wagerline buds. - - - MAK
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2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - PHI - 6, GS + 5.5 - - -I
am pounding this Philly game on teasers, I would take the - 12 spread
but John Salmons always plays very well in Philly against his former
team. GS at + 5.5 is a good bet, if GS does somehow loose I doubt it
will be more then that. These are two games when I wouldn't go the
other way on teasers. 2 UNITS - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - PHI - 6,CLE + 8.5 - - -
Again the Philly play. I doubt Sacto can stay close against this
talented Philly team. King and his boys will play well in Dallas, I
just do not trust this Dallas team. Mo Williams has impressed me a
lot, CLE's depth has also impressed me, CLE will keep this close. 1.5 UNITS - - - 2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - PHI - 6,ORL - 1 - - - Chicago
will cause problems for the Magic. Nevertheless the Magic basically
have a 7 man rotation. Orlando plays their starters heavy minutes each
game. Nelson will shoot better, Lewis and Hedo will play well,
Superman will eat the block up and their under-the-radar pickup in
Mikel Pietrus will shine. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - CHA + 12, GS + 5.5 - - - Here
is the switch, I like DET to win the game, but also think CHA can stay
within 12 points. Will be playing DET in teasers as well. Combining
it with a strong play as GS should win in MEM. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - DET - 1.0, CHI + 13 - - - Here
is another switch up, this is more risky as I do think ORL has the
capability to blow out the Bulls, however I do believe in this Bulls
team and think they can keep it close. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - ORL - 1, DET@CHA OVER 179 - - - My
first teaser mixed with ATS and total. I like the DET@CHA OVER play
just not enough for a straight wager. Gonna play a few teasers with
this total. DET has scored 100 in all their games this season, under
the helm of Michal Curry they continue to run and score. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT) TEASER - - - GS + 5.5, DET@CHA OVER 179 - - - Not much to say here, GS POD combined with what should be an easy over. 1 UNIT - - -
2 TM (6PT TEASER - - - PHI - 6, DET@CHA OVER 179 - - -
That is 4 teasers that rely on Philly, that is 5 units on them, I just
think it is better then putting 5 units on - 12. My way of thinking I
guess. 1 UNIT - - - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well that is all folkes, I know it's
a lot of teasers and not really anything else except for the obvious GS
play. Despite the public on it, it doesn't matter, it is a good bet
but MEM should not be under-estimated and the line is accurate as this
will be a close one. BOL to all my wagerline buds. - - - MAK
This is a real tricky slate of games today, I think the spreads are getting fined tuned. The spreads are very very accurate. Vegas will get a lot today as the accuracy in my opinion is spot on. There is a way around it, it's not smart nor is it something you can do often but I am going to tease some games both ways. It could backfire on me but if my capping is correct these games should be very close to the ATS spreads that are set, minimal movements on the lines should prove this tomorrow. Hopefully. Here we go:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GS WARRIORS - 1.0 - - - Here is my one and only ATS play for the night, the Warriors are a good team. Better then most think, better then I thought. I though Baron made this team but guys like Jackson are the true leaders of this team. They have a lot of swagger and pride and know the Griz just beat the Magic in MEM. They know they have to ease up on 3's and play better defense. This was all evident with a good fundamental win in NJ. After their loss to TOR they brought it together and shot much better vs NJ. Better decisions led to a victory. If they get their heads together, trade Harrington and Monta Ellis and bring a top tier player on their squad this GS team can be deadly. Watch for Azubuike, and Rook Eric Gordon to make some noise against a young inexperienced Memphis backcourt. GS wins in what should be a close game. WARRIORS 3.0 UNITS - - - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mak - Eric Gordon is actually with the LA Clippers
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Quote Originally Posted by makaveli23:
This is a real tricky slate of games today, I think the spreads are getting fined tuned. The spreads are very very accurate. Vegas will get a lot today as the accuracy in my opinion is spot on. There is a way around it, it's not smart nor is it something you can do often but I am going to tease some games both ways. It could backfire on me but if my capping is correct these games should be very close to the ATS spreads that are set, minimal movements on the lines should prove this tomorrow. Hopefully. Here we go:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GS WARRIORS - 1.0 - - - Here is my one and only ATS play for the night, the Warriors are a good team. Better then most think, better then I thought. I though Baron made this team but guys like Jackson are the true leaders of this team. They have a lot of swagger and pride and know the Griz just beat the Magic in MEM. They know they have to ease up on 3's and play better defense. This was all evident with a good fundamental win in NJ. After their loss to TOR they brought it together and shot much better vs NJ. Better decisions led to a victory. If they get their heads together, trade Harrington and Monta Ellis and bring a top tier player on their squad this GS team can be deadly. Watch for Azubuike, and Rook Eric Gordon to make some noise against a young inexperienced Memphis backcourt. GS wins in what should be a close game. WARRIORS 3.0 UNITS - - - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mak - Eric Gordon is actually with the LA Clippers
gl tomorrow mak. dont know if i like this play as much as i have some of ur others. hate to lay points with the warriors on the road. they looked great against NJ but im still a little weary. also, just about every other thread i have opened has GSW -1 as a play, and frankly, i hate to see everyone in here on a team that i am betting on. gonna look into the game further. not seeing anything that really pops out to me as of now. gl on those teasers! peace bro.
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gl tomorrow mak. dont know if i like this play as much as i have some of ur others. hate to lay points with the warriors on the road. they looked great against NJ but im still a little weary. also, just about every other thread i have opened has GSW -1 as a play, and frankly, i hate to see everyone in here on a team that i am betting on. gonna look into the game further. not seeing anything that really pops out to me as of now. gl on those teasers! peace bro.
you want to trade Monta Ellis for a star? This kid is already a star.. Your talking crazy.. Who do you have in mind? I am real curious
Monta's role has drastically changed from last year to this year. lets see how he performs with the pressure of being the star guard of a team. was real easy the last few seasons to back up a stud like baron.....no pressure at all. kid just went out and reacted. not saying that he is gonna go down the tubes or anything but being alone in the limelight is definitely going to be a transition for him imo.
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Quote Originally Posted by biglubes:
you want to trade Monta Ellis for a star? This kid is already a star.. Your talking crazy.. Who do you have in mind? I am real curious
Monta's role has drastically changed from last year to this year. lets see how he performs with the pressure of being the star guard of a team. was real easy the last few seasons to back up a stud like baron.....no pressure at all. kid just went out and reacted. not saying that he is gonna go down the tubes or anything but being alone in the limelight is definitely going to be a transition for him imo.
IMTYPE - - - You gotta take a break when reading my thread bro, people know this :) Despite the headache hope you enjoyed it, best of luck to you as well sir.
MAT - - - yea a lot of people are trying to convince themselves, go with your gut, don't worry about what other are doing, yes you are right Eric Gordon is a Clipp. BOL bud.
LATIN - - - Thanks bud, good luck to you as well. You are right Eric Gorodn is a Clipper, I was thinking of Demarcuss Nelson the GS rook, he has game. Were they not traded on draft night or something? Dunno why I thought Gordon was on GS, my bad. GL to you.
BIGLUBES - - - K let's have this discussion. First off Monta Ellis is not a star. He is a great player, not a Star homie. I say trade him, he can't play the point, he just can't. Too eratic and fast to be controlled and poised. He is more of an off guard. Package him and his Mo-Ped riding ass with Harrington, Bellinelli and maybe a few draft picks and ship them all off to Denver for Iverson. That is my opinion. Book it, with A.I, Maggatte, Jackson, Biedrins they can at least make a push for the playoffs in the west.
TRIC - - - Tric I know what you mean, you hate going with the public on a play like this because historically it comes back and fucks you. But I really have a feeling there are no tricks here. GS is the better team. Go for a small wager then. thanks for the luck on the teasers, need some for a good night. BOL to you my friend.
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IMTYPE - - - You gotta take a break when reading my thread bro, people know this :) Despite the headache hope you enjoyed it, best of luck to you as well sir.
MAT - - - yea a lot of people are trying to convince themselves, go with your gut, don't worry about what other are doing, yes you are right Eric Gordon is a Clipp. BOL bud.
LATIN - - - Thanks bud, good luck to you as well. You are right Eric Gorodn is a Clipper, I was thinking of Demarcuss Nelson the GS rook, he has game. Were they not traded on draft night or something? Dunno why I thought Gordon was on GS, my bad. GL to you.
BIGLUBES - - - K let's have this discussion. First off Monta Ellis is not a star. He is a great player, not a Star homie. I say trade him, he can't play the point, he just can't. Too eratic and fast to be controlled and poised. He is more of an off guard. Package him and his Mo-Ped riding ass with Harrington, Bellinelli and maybe a few draft picks and ship them all off to Denver for Iverson. That is my opinion. Book it, with A.I, Maggatte, Jackson, Biedrins they can at least make a push for the playoffs in the west.
TRIC - - - Tric I know what you mean, you hate going with the public on a play like this because historically it comes back and fucks you. But I really have a feeling there are no tricks here. GS is the better team. Go for a small wager then. thanks for the luck on the teasers, need some for a good night. BOL to you my friend.
Golden State just gave a big contract to Ellis...who is going to be willing to take on his huge contract with him coming off a major injury? Its not like his contract is expiring, if he turns out to be a dud after this injury there stuck with it. Just dont think anyone would be interested at this point in trading for Ellis while he is on the shelf because they arent getting him discounted. I think Ellis is perfect for Nelson's up and down pace. With or without Bdiddy, Monta's first step is so quick he will always be able to get to the basket anytime. If anything, I think his scoring will go up.
Inverson is getting up there in age, do you relaly want to morgage your team for 2-3 years of AI? Is AI really that much of an upgrade over Jackson at point gaurd? (Minus Ellis). To me, neither of them are the answer at PG.
As the season wears on I feel they will start to feel the effects of Barnes and Bdiddy out of that line up
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I have no problem trading Harrington..
Golden State just gave a big contract to Ellis...who is going to be willing to take on his huge contract with him coming off a major injury? Its not like his contract is expiring, if he turns out to be a dud after this injury there stuck with it. Just dont think anyone would be interested at this point in trading for Ellis while he is on the shelf because they arent getting him discounted. I think Ellis is perfect for Nelson's up and down pace. With or without Bdiddy, Monta's first step is so quick he will always be able to get to the basket anytime. If anything, I think his scoring will go up.
Inverson is getting up there in age, do you relaly want to morgage your team for 2-3 years of AI? Is AI really that much of an upgrade over Jackson at point gaurd? (Minus Ellis). To me, neither of them are the answer at PG.
As the season wears on I feel they will start to feel the effects of Barnes and Bdiddy out of that line up
good luck on your pick tomorrow, good to see you on the warriors. I'm a warriors fans but I just can't pull the trigger on this game, too much people is taking the warriors, that's scare me lil bit, but i'm going wait to see if the lines move at all.
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good luck on your pick tomorrow, good to see you on the warriors. I'm a warriors fans but I just can't pull the trigger on this game, too much people is taking the warriors, that's scare me lil bit, but i'm going wait to see if the lines move at all.
Mak - you know Memphis' recent win over Orlando was a bit misleading. Orlando lead Memphis by 16pts at the start of the 2nd half and they simply quit playing D which is coach Gundy's specialty. Plus Orlando went ice cold on offense. I see Orlando's weakness this year in their back court play and their lack of athleticism at both their guard and forward positions. This is the basic fundamental reason that I like the Warrior's match up against nearly all positions against Memphis except at center, because Orlando ultimately could not match up with Memphis at the guard and forward positions in the second half of their last game. This is why my gut still tells me that the Warriors hold a distinct matchup and experience advantage against Memphis in every position besides, of course, at center. Hence, I'll probably still make a small 1 unit play on the Warriors in spite of the Vegas 'trap' game theories circulating this thread. GL LL
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Mak - you know Memphis' recent win over Orlando was a bit misleading. Orlando lead Memphis by 16pts at the start of the 2nd half and they simply quit playing D which is coach Gundy's specialty. Plus Orlando went ice cold on offense. I see Orlando's weakness this year in their back court play and their lack of athleticism at both their guard and forward positions. This is the basic fundamental reason that I like the Warrior's match up against nearly all positions against Memphis except at center, because Orlando ultimately could not match up with Memphis at the guard and forward positions in the second half of their last game. This is why my gut still tells me that the Warriors hold a distinct matchup and experience advantage against Memphis in every position besides, of course, at center. Hence, I'll probably still make a small 1 unit play on the Warriors in spite of the Vegas 'trap' game theories circulating this thread. GL LL
BIGLUBES - - - You make some real good points regarding Ellis, just a theory I doubt they will trade him and I do think Ellis will be good to go once he returns, you are right he is perfect for the Nelson system.
ANYWHO - - - GL to you sir, I say roll with your gut and the Warriors.
WALKTHELINE - - - Umm you are 100% correct, I suck at math, wasn't even thinking. But the bet was placed at + 5.5 so I purchase 7 points on that game, BET365 has great odds so it didn't make a huge difference on payout. Thanks for paying attention. Peace.
LATINLOVER - - - Latin you don't think the Warriors hold an advantage at Centre? Or was that a typo...cause you know your ball and your not trying to tell me you think Marc Gasol can hold Andris Biedrins?
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BIGLUBES - - - You make some real good points regarding Ellis, just a theory I doubt they will trade him and I do think Ellis will be good to go once he returns, you are right he is perfect for the Nelson system.
ANYWHO - - - GL to you sir, I say roll with your gut and the Warriors.
WALKTHELINE - - - Umm you are 100% correct, I suck at math, wasn't even thinking. But the bet was placed at + 5.5 so I purchase 7 points on that game, BET365 has great odds so it didn't make a huge difference on payout. Thanks for paying attention. Peace.
LATINLOVER - - - Latin you don't think the Warriors hold an advantage at Centre? Or was that a typo...cause you know your ball and your not trying to tell me you think Marc Gasol can hold Andris Biedrins?
I dont know why you guys underestimate the Grizz! Their line-up is solid and other coaches have yet to see Gasol-Arthur-Mayo play! All rookies in the starting give and basically the youngest starting five in history, with Conley and Gay! They really played great against Orlando at home and they will have to do it all over again to prove to all that the Grizz are for real!
The Warriors are tired travelling from the East side and will expect a stormy weather from the Memphis line-up that needs to be examined for this game!
Still will go with the Grizz....
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I dont know why you guys underestimate the Grizz! Their line-up is solid and other coaches have yet to see Gasol-Arthur-Mayo play! All rookies in the starting give and basically the youngest starting five in history, with Conley and Gay! They really played great against Orlando at home and they will have to do it all over again to prove to all that the Grizz are for real!
The Warriors are tired travelling from the East side and will expect a stormy weather from the Memphis line-up that needs to be examined for this game!
IVAN - - - You make some good points Ivan, Grizz are a deep young talented ball club, that I cannot take away from them. Just think the ORL game was a bit of a fluke and doubt they can do that to GS. GL to ya bro. BIGDAWG - - - Much appreciate homie.
CASHMAN - - - My teaser bud, good looking. Keep playing those teasers and posting, need ur input this season.
PROFIT - - - Thanks for the luck profit, even though your on the other side. BOL to you as well.
ALLY - - - That is what I am saying ALY, they impressed me a lot vs the Raps. They are a good team.
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IVAN - - - You make some good points Ivan, Grizz are a deep young talented ball club, that I cannot take away from them. Just think the ORL game was a bit of a fluke and doubt they can do that to GS. GL to ya bro. BIGDAWG - - - Much appreciate homie.
CASHMAN - - - My teaser bud, good looking. Keep playing those teasers and posting, need ur input this season.
PROFIT - - - Thanks for the luck profit, even though your on the other side. BOL to you as well.
ALLY - - - That is what I am saying ALY, they impressed me a lot vs the Raps. They are a good team.
Dunno what some people are even smokin these days, how can you not realize this is a magnificent move for the Detroit Pistons. Allen Iverson is what of the best pure scorers in the league, he is also ranked up there with the most heart in the NBA. He has guts, no regard for his own body and a reckless will that makes him one of the best players in the league.
Don't get me wrong I love Billups, but I havn't seen a fleecing of a top tier player in this league since the Vince Carter deal in Toronto. Allen Iverson will go down in the hall of fame, he still has a lot of gas in the tank and Billups and McDyess are alone not worth the player quality of Allen Iverson. Dumars does it again. Now all he needs is Darko Milicic to show up a little so he doesn't go down with the humiliation of the worst draft pick since Kwame Brown. Dumars has done big things in D.Town and this shake up is just what the doctor ordered for the Pistons. I already bought tickets to the game on Wednesday and am giddy to say A.I's debut live baby.
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Dunno what some people are even smokin these days, how can you not realize this is a magnificent move for the Detroit Pistons. Allen Iverson is what of the best pure scorers in the league, he is also ranked up there with the most heart in the NBA. He has guts, no regard for his own body and a reckless will that makes him one of the best players in the league.
Don't get me wrong I love Billups, but I havn't seen a fleecing of a top tier player in this league since the Vince Carter deal in Toronto. Allen Iverson will go down in the hall of fame, he still has a lot of gas in the tank and Billups and McDyess are alone not worth the player quality of Allen Iverson. Dumars does it again. Now all he needs is Darko Milicic to show up a little so he doesn't go down with the humiliation of the worst draft pick since Kwame Brown. Dumars has done big things in D.Town and this shake up is just what the doctor ordered for the Pistons. I already bought tickets to the game on Wednesday and am giddy to say A.I's debut live baby.
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