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    JAZZ @ CLIPPERS - GAME 7! THE BIG ONE!!! EVERYTHING you need to know to bring home the BACON!!!

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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 3:53 PM ET #26

    There are far fewer hack a deandre moments because they don't go to him as a scoring option late, so yes I'm comfortable with that happening much less.
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    There are far fewer hack a deandre moments because they don't go to him as a scoring option late, so yes I'm comfortable with that happening much less.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 3:56 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Achilles I'm 8-1 in the playoffs by betting on HUGE public support NOT against it. Not only am I fine with it, I want it!

    This makes sense to a certain extent because the public is often (though not always) betting with its heart (i.e., the team they want to see win and see advance) and that usually falls in line with what the league wants to see happen as well (i.e., the popular teams/players win and advance). I think in an era when there is so much money to be made off TV/advertising revenues (more than ever), you will see more and more square bets winning (just look at the year the NFL had, where squares won out). But Vegas is not dumb, and they will adjust/inflate the lines to protect themselves. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Achilles I'm 8-1 in the playoffs by betting on HUGE public support NOT against it. Not only am I fine with it, I want it!

    This makes sense to a certain extent because the public is often (though not always) betting with its heart (i.e., the team they want to see win and see advance) and that usually falls in line with what the league wants to see happen as well (i.e., the popular teams/players win and advance). I think in an era when there is so much money to be made off TV/advertising revenues (more than ever), you will see more and more square bets winning (just look at the year the NFL had, where squares won out). But Vegas is not dumb, and they will adjust/inflate the lines to protect themselves. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 3:57 PM ET #28

    Achilles you have it all wrong.

    If the Jazz are going to win THEY ARE THE ONES who need all on board, particularly Joe Johnson and you can't guarantee he'll be there to do it. 

    Jazz are the ones coming onto an opposing court in a spot where historically the home team, irregardless of team wins 4 of 5 times. S

    The Clips have the resume. The Jazz have accomplished nothing. Clips have adjusted for Blake and the open threes they were giving up (and the pick and roll). What more do the Jazz have to offer? They've shown their hand. Now they have to rely on talent. It's there but it has to ALL be there. And all you get is 3/4 to compensate for that. That's not chick scratch but it's certainly not 6/7 a much thought and more common line for the home team in a game 7.
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    Achilles you have it all wrong.

    If the Jazz are going to win THEY ARE THE ONES who need all on board, particularly Joe Johnson and you can't guarantee he'll be there to do it. 

    Jazz are the ones coming onto an opposing court in a spot where historically the home team, irregardless of team wins 4 of 5 times. S

    The Clips have the resume. The Jazz have accomplished nothing. Clips have adjusted for Blake and the open threes they were giving up (and the pick and roll). What more do the Jazz have to offer? They've shown their hand. Now they have to rely on talent. It's there but it has to ALL be there. And all you get is 3/4 to compensate for that. That's not chick scratch but it's certainly not 6/7 a much thought and more common line for the home team in a game 7.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 4:04 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Public is already pounding the home team in a game 7.

    What a surprise.


    I literally played the -3.5 as soon as it opened (waking up early this morning just for this game) but it definitely was -3.5 as of this posting on 5Dimes.

    I think, if you really don't want to deal with the points, parlaying it with Anthony's joshua at -250 is a possibility. I have a boxing guru friend who is aggressively promoting Joshua as a side. But if you don't lines of 4/5 6 kinda muddy the waters. 4 would be my upper bound to play it at a reduced bet.

    Thank you for the suggestion to parley.

    I did Washington ML + Clippers ML.  150 to pay 495 which is not bad at all.  300 on Washington +5 in case they don't win.  I see Thomas being very tired and coming off 4 straight wins this can be a let down game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Public is already pounding the home team in a game 7.

    What a surprise.


    I literally played the -3.5 as soon as it opened (waking up early this morning just for this game) but it definitely was -3.5 as of this posting on 5Dimes.

    I think, if you really don't want to deal with the points, parlaying it with Anthony's joshua at -250 is a possibility. I have a boxing guru friend who is aggressively promoting Joshua as a side. But if you don't lines of 4/5 6 kinda muddy the waters. 4 would be my upper bound to play it at a reduced bet.

    Thank you for the suggestion to parley.

    I did Washington ML + Clippers ML.  150 to pay 495 which is not bad at all.  300 on Washington +5 in case they don't win.  I see Thomas being very tired and coming off 4 straight wins this can be a let down game.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 4:05 PM ET #30

    Oh and I'll be at the Clippers so if Washington loses I'll just play ML clippers.  Hate to root for home team to only be pissed if they win by a point and not cover the spread.


    Anyways, hope they cover the spread so we all cash  
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    Oh and I'll be at the Clippers so if Washington loses I'll just play ML clippers.  Hate to root for home team to only be pissed if they win by a point and not cover the spread.


    Anyways, hope they cover the spread so we all cash  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 4:08 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    This makes sense to a certain extent because the public is often (though not always) betting with its heart (i.e., the team they want to see win and see advance) and that usually falls in line with what the league wants to see happen as well (i.e., the popular teams/players win and advance). I think in an era when there is so much money to be made off TV/advertising revenues (more than ever), you will see more and more square bets winning (just look at the year the NFL had, where squares won out). But Vegas is not dumb, and they will adjust/inflate the lines to protect themselves. 

    Exactly BB, in the information era, where we are overloaded with anything and everything we want to know as a capper but most of the time are too confused to condense it, the 2017 "square" bets sharp (typically dogs) because they know sharps have won with such bets in the past.

    Like the Bucks +6 over the Raptors, the dog got huge public support but was destroyed in Game 4.

    Sharp is the New Square. (So bet Square (favorites mostly to be "sharp" when necessary).

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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    This makes sense to a certain extent because the public is often (though not always) betting with its heart (i.e., the team they want to see win and see advance) and that usually falls in line with what the league wants to see happen as well (i.e., the popular teams/players win and advance). I think in an era when there is so much money to be made off TV/advertising revenues (more than ever), you will see more and more square bets winning (just look at the year the NFL had, where squares won out). But Vegas is not dumb, and they will adjust/inflate the lines to protect themselves. 

    Exactly BB, in the information era, where we are overloaded with anything and everything we want to know as a capper but most of the time are too confused to condense it, the 2017 "square" bets sharp (typically dogs) because they know sharps have won with such bets in the past.

    Like the Bucks +6 over the Raptors, the dog got huge public support but was destroyed in Game 4.

    Sharp is the New Square. (So bet Square (favorites mostly to be "sharp" when necessary).

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Exactly BB, in the information era, where we are overloaded with anything and everything we want to know as a capper but most of the time are too confused to condense it, the 2017 "square" bets sharp (typically dogs) because they know sharps have won with such bets in the past.

    Like the Bucks +6 over the Raptors, the dog got huge public support but was destroyed in Game 4.

    Sharp is the New Square. (So bet Square (favorites mostly to be "sharp" when necessary).


    Scal, have you ever thought about why it is so much easier for officials to keep a basketball game close (or manipulate the outcome) than a football game or a baseball game or soccer match or a hockey game? I can think of 10 reasons off the top of my head, and that is just for starters, but basketball officials have the most power when it comes to influencing the outcome of games. And this relates to my previous argument about TV revenues and such which includes keeping games close for ratings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Exactly BB, in the information era, where we are overloaded with anything and everything we want to know as a capper but most of the time are too confused to condense it, the 2017 "square" bets sharp (typically dogs) because they know sharps have won with such bets in the past.

    Like the Bucks +6 over the Raptors, the dog got huge public support but was destroyed in Game 4.

    Sharp is the New Square. (So bet Square (favorites mostly to be "sharp" when necessary).


    Scal, have you ever thought about why it is so much easier for officials to keep a basketball game close (or manipulate the outcome) than a football game or a baseball game or soccer match or a hockey game? I can think of 10 reasons off the top of my head, and that is just for starters, but basketball officials have the most power when it comes to influencing the outcome of games. And this relates to my previous argument about TV revenues and such which includes keeping games close for ratings.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    Scal, have you ever thought about why it is so much easier for officials to keep a basketball game close (or manipulate the outcome) than a football game or a baseball game or soccer match or a hockey game? I can think of 10 reasons off the top of my head, and that is just for starters, but basketball officials have the most power when it comes to influencing the outcome of games. And this relates to my previous argument about TV revenues and such which includes keeping games close for ratings.

    Of course of course. The game has inherent opportunities for overt or covert manipulation by both player and official in innumerable ways. Tennis without modern day replay is another and has always had corruption.
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    Scal, have you ever thought about why it is so much easier for officials to keep a basketball game close (or manipulate the outcome) than a football game or a baseball game or soccer match or a hockey game? I can think of 10 reasons off the top of my head, and that is just for starters, but basketball officials have the most power when it comes to influencing the outcome of games. And this relates to my previous argument about TV revenues and such which includes keeping games close for ratings.

    Of course of course. The game has inherent opportunities for overt or covert manipulation by both player and official in innumerable ways. Tennis without modern day replay is another and has always had corruption.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 4:37 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Exactly BB, in the information era, where we are overloaded with anything and everything we want to know as a capper but most of the time are too confused to condense it, the 2017 "square" bets sharp (typically dogs) because they know sharps have won with such bets in the past.

    Like the Bucks +6 over the Raptors, the dog got huge public support but was destroyed in Game 4.

    Sharp is the New Square. (So bet Square (favorites mostly to be "sharp" when necessary).


    BTW, this is a great post. To quote Huey Lewis, It's hip to be "square."
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Exactly BB, in the information era, where we are overloaded with anything and everything we want to know as a capper but most of the time are too confused to condense it, the 2017 "square" bets sharp (typically dogs) because they know sharps have won with such bets in the past.

    Like the Bucks +6 over the Raptors, the dog got huge public support but was destroyed in Game 4.

    Sharp is the New Square. (So bet Square (favorites mostly to be "sharp" when necessary).


    BTW, this is a great post. To quote Huey Lewis, It's hip to be "square."
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 6:34 PM ET #35

    I HAVE THE CLIPS WINNING THE WEST THIS YEAR BUT BG SITUATION SERIOUSLY HURT THE BET. BUT IN A WAY, THIS COULD BE A BLESSING IN DISGUISE.

    SOMETIMES I TRULY HATE THE WAY BG PLAYS OFFENSE. HE HAS ONE OF THE MOST PREDICTABLE OFFENSIVE SKILLS IN THE ENTIRE NBA. HE HAS NOT IMPROVED OFFENSIVELY. AND NOW THAT HE LOST HIS ATHLETICISM, HIS MAIN ARSENAL OF HIGH JUMPING CRAZY DUNKS ARE GONE.

    SO IF/WHEN THE CLIPS ADVANCE TO THE NEXT ROUND, I REALLY HOPE CLIPS REACH THEIR TRUE POTENTIAL THIS YEAR.

    P3 HAS BEEN PATIENT, BUT HE KNOWS THIS IS THE YEAR FOR HIM TO MAKE THE PUSH TO THE FINALS, AND HE HAS THE TEAM TO DO IT. BG LOSS IS NOT AS BIG AS PEOPLE MAKE IT SEEM TO BE.
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    I HAVE THE CLIPS WINNING THE WEST THIS YEAR BUT BG SITUATION SERIOUSLY HURT THE BET. BUT IN A WAY, THIS COULD BE A BLESSING IN DISGUISE.

    SOMETIMES I TRULY HATE THE WAY BG PLAYS OFFENSE. HE HAS ONE OF THE MOST PREDICTABLE OFFENSIVE SKILLS IN THE ENTIRE NBA. HE HAS NOT IMPROVED OFFENSIVELY. AND NOW THAT HE LOST HIS ATHLETICISM, HIS MAIN ARSENAL OF HIGH JUMPING CRAZY DUNKS ARE GONE.

    SO IF/WHEN THE CLIPS ADVANCE TO THE NEXT ROUND, I REALLY HOPE CLIPS REACH THEIR TRUE POTENTIAL THIS YEAR.

    P3 HAS BEEN PATIENT, BUT HE KNOWS THIS IS THE YEAR FOR HIM TO MAKE THE PUSH TO THE FINALS, AND HE HAS THE TEAM TO DO IT. BG LOSS IS NOT AS BIG AS PEOPLE MAKE IT SEEM TO BE.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 10:54 PM ET #37

    Would be such a clipper thing to blow this late

    Reffs won't let it though.

    Take the ML
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    Would be such a clipper thing to blow this late

    Reffs won't let it though.

    Take the ML
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 11:00 PM ET #38

    Scal, I was leaning clips... i think this game revolves around cp3 - can he have a CP3 dominant game or one of his just eh games... I'm thinking clips and hedge half with under on cp3 points and assists, and perhaps hit both.... how do you like them apples?
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    Scal, I was leaning clips... i think this game revolves around cp3 - can he have a CP3 dominant game or one of his just eh games... I'm thinking clips and hedge half with under on cp3 points and assists, and perhaps hit both.... how do you like them apples?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2017 - 11:04 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by firesox:

    Would be such a clipper thing to blow this late

    Reffs won't let it though.

    Take the ML

    Been there done that. I loved what happened late last game to the Clips late.

    Teams correct on that. They just saw it happen to them. They adjust. Particularly high profile ones.

    Monster chinese

    Titus I am not touching any props. That's for the birds. The side is right here. Take the Clips.

    Bb, that sentence you bolder has completely changed my capping. I mean even you jumped on the "square" Celtics in the final game despite the fact you needed them for your parlay. It was a "square" bet that was too much to pass up!

    Line is back down to -3.5 FYI
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    Would be such a clipper thing to blow this late

    Reffs won't let it though.

    Take the ML

    Been there done that. I loved what happened late last game to the Clips late.

    Teams correct on that. They just saw it happen to them. They adjust. Particularly high profile ones.

    Monster chinese

    Titus I am not touching any props. That's for the birds. The side is right here. Take the Clips.

    Bb, that sentence you bolder has completely changed my capping. I mean even you jumped on the "square" Celtics in the final game despite the fact you needed them for your parlay. It was a "square" bet that was too much to pass up!

    Line is back down to -3.5 FYI
     
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    Public is already pounding the home team in a game 7.

    What a surprise.


    I literally played the -3.5 as soon as it opened (waking up early this morning just for this game) but it definitely was -3.5 as of this posting on 5Dimes.

    I think, if you really don't want to deal with the points, parlaying it with Anthony's joshua at -250 is a possibility. I have a boxing guru friend who is aggressively promoting Joshua as a side. But if you don't lines of 4/5 6 kinda muddy the waters. 4 would be my upper bound to play it at a reduced bet.

    If ya played Anthony Joshua like I recommended, you won and need not lay a single point tomorrow vs. the JAzz (And you'll get + money if you parlayed it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Public is already pounding the home team in a game 7.

    What a surprise.


    I literally played the -3.5 as soon as it opened (waking up early this morning just for this game) but it definitely was -3.5 as of this posting on 5Dimes.

    I think, if you really don't want to deal with the points, parlaying it with Anthony's joshua at -250 is a possibility. I have a boxing guru friend who is aggressively promoting Joshua as a side. But if you don't lines of 4/5 6 kinda muddy the waters. 4 would be my upper bound to play it at a reduced bet.

    If ya played Anthony Joshua like I recommended, you won and need not lay a single point tomorrow vs. the JAzz (And you'll get + money if you parlayed it).

     
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    Loving the pick mr scalabrine but is it not flood? But even if it is RIDE WITH YOU DIE WITH YOU !
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    Loving the pick mr scalabrine but is it not flood? But even if it is RIDE WITH YOU DIE WITH YOU !
     
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    I HOPE THE LEAGUE REALIZES HOW STUPID A INJURED CLIPPERS VS WARRIORS SERIES WOULD BE 
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    I HOPE THE LEAGUE REALIZES HOW STUPID A INJURED CLIPPERS VS WARRIORS SERIES WOULD BE 
     
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    I'm in, 5 units. Also taking over 190.5 for 1.5 units, I have no reason just feel this game 7 will be about players showing the best of themselves in the offensive end
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    I'm in, 5 units. Also taking over 190.5 for 1.5 units, I have no reason just feel this game 7 will be about players showing the best of themselves in the offensive end
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titusblink:

    I'm in, 5 units. Also taking over 190.5 for 1.5 units, I have no reason just feel this game 7 will be about players showing the best of themselves in the offensive end

    It will be tight. It's a game 7 with teams with identical records. I just believe the game 7 at home, the experience, the adjustments, and the failure of the Jazz to close it out at home and the pressure compounded in the following game with that will lead us to a win. Then just a few free throws covers it. Just be patient. Looking for a late pullaway.
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    I'm in, 5 units. Also taking over 190.5 for 1.5 units, I have no reason just feel this game 7 will be about players showing the best of themselves in the offensive end

    It will be tight. It's a game 7 with teams with identical records. I just believe the game 7 at home, the experience, the adjustments, and the failure of the Jazz to close it out at home and the pressure compounded in the following game with that will lead us to a win. Then just a few free throws covers it. Just be patient. Looking for a late pullaway.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidgibson25:

    Loving the pick mr scalabrine but is it not flood? But even if it is RIDE WITH YOU DIE WITH YOU !

    I'm posting for guys like you and for the ones buying groceries with this money. IT was rough for months but I am DONE with that shi*. Time to get back to my old ways.
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    Loving the pick mr scalabrine but is it not flood? But even if it is RIDE WITH YOU DIE WITH YOU !

    I'm posting for guys like you and for the ones buying groceries with this money. IT was rough for months but I am DONE with that shi*. Time to get back to my old ways.
     
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    I see 50/50 Scal -- CLippers going to win big tomorrow -- surprised anyone sees Utah as standing a chance -- Clippers Warriors will go the distance also
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTD:

    I HOPE THE LEAGUE REALIZES HOW STUPID A INJURED CLIPPERS VS WARRIORS SERIES WOULD BE 

    Stupid or not. It will get 25% 50% 75% better ratings than the Jazz. That's not stupid to the NBA who makes its bread and butter off tv rights.
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    I HOPE THE LEAGUE REALIZES HOW STUPID A INJURED CLIPPERS VS WARRIORS SERIES WOULD BE 

    Stupid or not. It will get 25% 50% 75% better ratings than the Jazz. That's not stupid to the NBA who makes its bread and butter off tv rights.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobmaloogatimesfive:

    I see 50/50 Scal -- CLippers going to win big tomorrow -- surprised anyone sees Utah as standing a chance -- Clippers Warriors will go the distance also

    Come on Bob. I have no idea when you are being serious.
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    I see 50/50 Scal -- CLippers going to win big tomorrow -- surprised anyone sees Utah as standing a chance -- Clippers Warriors will go the distance also

    Come on Bob. I have no idea when you are being serious.
     
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    Here is online action tracking 50/50

    https://www.sportsinsights.com/free-odds/

    Where I work I have actually seen 2 to 1 on Jazz action for what it is worth
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    Here is online action tracking 50/50

    https://www.sportsinsights.com/free-odds/

    Where I work I have actually seen 2 to 1 on Jazz action for what it is worth
     
     
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    GOLDEN STATE HAS BEATEN THE CLIPPERS 10 STRAIGHT TIMES IN BLOW OUT FASHION NOW THE CLIPPERS BIGGEST STAR BLAKE GRIFFIN IS INJURED FOR THE REST OF THE PLAYOFFS DO YOU PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO SEE THE WARRIORS BEAT THIS DEPLETED OLD TEAM UP 4 MORE TIMES? IT WOULD BE THE MOST PREDICTABLE SERIES IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS NOBODY WANTS TO WATCH THAT NOT TO MENTION ALL THE BIG MONEY SERIES PRICES AND PARLAYS PENDING THE CLIPPERS WERE A SURE THING TO WIN THIS SERIES BEFORE IT STARTED NOW THE JAZZ ARE CLEARLY THE MORE TALENTED TEAM 
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    GOLDEN STATE HAS BEATEN THE CLIPPERS 10 STRAIGHT TIMES IN BLOW OUT FASHION NOW THE CLIPPERS BIGGEST STAR BLAKE GRIFFIN IS INJURED FOR THE REST OF THE PLAYOFFS DO YOU PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO SEE THE WARRIORS BEAT THIS DEPLETED OLD TEAM UP 4 MORE TIMES? IT WOULD BE THE MOST PREDICTABLE SERIES IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS NOBODY WANTS TO WATCH THAT NOT TO MENTION ALL THE BIG MONEY SERIES PRICES AND PARLAYS PENDING THE CLIPPERS WERE A SURE THING TO WIN THIS SERIES BEFORE IT STARTED NOW THE JAZZ ARE CLEARLY THE MORE TALENTED TEAM 
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