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    SMHyman
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:12 PM ET #1

    Good afternoon everyone.  Scrolling this site and watching the way people bet everyday really concerns me.  I have posted a few parlays that I hit here and there, but my betting strategy is completely different to the most followed bettors on this site.  It's virtually impossible to consistently bring in an income betting 5-10 games a day.  There's just not that much value on the board everyday.  In reality betting this way will ultimately run you into the ground after a bad week because all bettors feel the need to win it back.  I'd like to introduce my way of betting to you.  I only lay my bets on what I like to call "The Perfect Storm"  1-3 bets a day max, but most of the time it's only 1.  There are several guide lines I look for:

    1) Hot streaks.  Which team is hot, which players are hot.  And which are on their down slopes.

    2) Off the field distractions.  Which players or coaches are publically under heavy criticism.  Which teams chemistry is disrupted by off the field issues.

    3) Injuries.  Injuries can completely change the game.  Looking at how deep a bench is, who is stepping in in their place.  Who is playing with an injury that may disrupt their level of play.

    4) Road/Home performances.  Look for a team that just flat out plays their asses off at home.  Or a team who just plain sucks on the road.  Which players play better on the road or at home.  What kind of atmosphere does the stadium/arena bring.

    5) Placement of game: did the better team just come off of an emotional win?  Do they have a divisional game/rival the following week.  Did they just get done playing a sunday night game and now have to turn around and play Thursday.  Are they on a 5 game road trip playing back to back games.  Are they only home for one game and then leaving the next day to travel across the country.  Are they a west coast team playing at 1:00 on the east coast.  All of these factors come into play.

    6) Weather.  Wind, rain, snow, cold, hot.  You gotta know your team's strengths.  Are they a great defensive team, do they run the ball or throw the ball.  Is the running back a power back or someone who relys heavily on cuts.  Does the quarterback throw a tight ball or not.  The history of certain players and teams in different weather conditions.  Taking all of this into account.

    7) Studying the Line.  Often times teams will be oddly favored or only favored by a few points.  These are things to take into account.  But should only be reviewed heavily depending on all the previous factors.  Sometimes when a blow-out is impending, vegas will give an odd line.  This often times attracts bettors to the team who is going to get blown out.  PAY ATTENTION TO ALL FACTORS.

    8) Line movement.  Know your line movement.  Know how many points it's moved since the line was introduced.  Know whether it's smart to stay away given the amount of points, or jump on quick before they shave you.  This is the difference between a half point win and loss.

    FINALLY:  Look at all 8 factors.  It's not enough for one or two to line up.  You have to wait for a bet that matches multiple factors.  Those bets are what are called the perfect storm.  These are the type that so often come in.  Over the last 2 years I've been averaging between 2-3,000 a month betting 100 dollar bets.  It's not KILLER money, but I only make 60,000 a year at my job and I have kids.  That's an extra 30,000 dollars a year or more.  I'm sure you're sick of hearing me ramble now, so I'll just go ahead and get into my pick/picks.

    I've already studied pretty thoroughly early this morning and over my lunch break.  I'll post within the next hour.

    Let's hope we can end 2014 on a great note and 2015 can be as good if not better than 2014.  Feel free to join me in making some money this year and years coming.

    -Shane

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Good afternoon everyone.  Scrolling this site and watching the way people bet everyday really concerns me.  I have posted a few parlays that I hit here and there, but my betting strategy is completely different to the most followed bettors on this site.  It's virtually impossible to consistently bring in an income betting 5-10 games a day.  There's just not that much value on the board everyday.  In reality betting this way will ultimately run you into the ground after a bad week because all bettors feel the need to win it back.  I'd like to introduce my way of betting to you.  I only lay my bets on what I like to call "The Perfect Storm"  1-3 bets a day max, but most of the time it's only 1.  There are several guide lines I look for:

    1) Hot streaks.  Which team is hot, which players are hot.  And which are on their down slopes.

    2) Off the field distractions.  Which players or coaches are publically under heavy criticism.  Which teams chemistry is disrupted by off the field issues.

    3) Injuries.  Injuries can completely change the game.  Looking at how deep a bench is, who is stepping in in their place.  Who is playing with an injury that may disrupt their level of play.

    4) Road/Home performances.  Look for a team that just flat out plays their asses off at home.  Or a team who just plain sucks on the road.  Which players play better on the road or at home.  What kind of atmosphere does the stadium/arena bring.

    5) Placement of game: did the better team just come off of an emotional win?  Do they have a divisional game/rival the following week.  Did they just get done playing a sunday night game and now have to turn around and play Thursday.  Are they on a 5 game road trip playing back to back games.  Are they only home for one game and then leaving the next day to travel across the country.  Are they a west coast team playing at 1:00 on the east coast.  All of these factors come into play.

    6) Weather.  Wind, rain, snow, cold, hot.  You gotta know your team's strengths.  Are they a great defensive team, do they run the ball or throw the ball.  Is the running back a power back or someone who relys heavily on cuts.  Does the quarterback throw a tight ball or not.  The history of certain players and teams in different weather conditions.  Taking all of this into account.

    7) Studying the Line.  Often times teams will be oddly favored or only favored by a few points.  These are things to take into account.  But should only be reviewed heavily depending on all the previous factors.  Sometimes when a blow-out is impending, vegas will give an odd line.  This often times attracts bettors to the team who is going to get blown out.  PAY ATTENTION TO ALL FACTORS.

    8) Line movement.  Know your line movement.  Know how many points it's moved since the line was introduced.  Know whether it's smart to stay away given the amount of points, or jump on quick before they shave you.  This is the difference between a half point win and loss.

    FINALLY:  Look at all 8 factors.  It's not enough for one or two to line up.  You have to wait for a bet that matches multiple factors.  Those bets are what are called the perfect storm.  These are the type that so often come in.  Over the last 2 years I've been averaging between 2-3,000 a month betting 100 dollar bets.  It's not KILLER money, but I only make 60,000 a year at my job and I have kids.  That's an extra 30,000 dollars a year or more.  I'm sure you're sick of hearing me ramble now, so I'll just go ahead and get into my pick/picks.

    I've already studied pretty thoroughly early this morning and over my lunch break.  I'll post within the next hour.

    Let's hope we can end 2014 on a great note and 2015 can be as good if not better than 2014.  Feel free to join me in making some money this year and years coming.

    -Shane

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:23 PM ET #2

    I'll be following this system closely.  

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    I'll be following this system closely.  

     
    ColdBlood2
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:27 PM ET #3

    Wish you luck bro, welcome to forums. 
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    Wish you luck bro, welcome to forums. 
     
    SMHyman
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:46 PM ET #4

    Big mismatch here tonight between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Sacramento Kings.  The bucks just got news of their star rookie Jabari Parker going down for the season due to an ACL injury.  While both teams have been on losing streaks.  The kings started the year one of the hottest teams with Demarcus Cousins staking his claim as a candidate for a possible MVP award at the end of the season.  With Cousins playing, the Kings were 10-4 atop the division.  4-2 at home with their only losses coming to Golden State and a really tough game against the Hornets where A-Davis went off.  Their wins at home came against San-Antonio, Chicago, Denver, and Portland.  All VERY good teams.  This will be cousins first game back during an 0-3 homestand.  The return of cousins will give the kings plenty of energy for their last game at home while the loss of jabari parker and the injury to Henson Milwaukee's center will be a big concern down under.  The Bucks have had a decent road trip with surprising victories over the suns and clips, but this was before the loss to one of their star players and on a back to back night, they will be running out of gas with the extra effort they have to put in to replace the loss of Henson and Parker.  If the shots aren't falling for the bucks, this one could get VERY ugly fast.

    Kings -6

     

    Will look over football but this is my for sure perfect storm game for tonight.

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    Big mismatch here tonight between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Sacramento Kings.  The bucks just got news of their star rookie Jabari Parker going down for the season due to an ACL injury.  While both teams have been on losing streaks.  The kings started the year one of the hottest teams with Demarcus Cousins staking his claim as a candidate for a possible MVP award at the end of the season.  With Cousins playing, the Kings were 10-4 atop the division.  4-2 at home with their only losses coming to Golden State and a really tough game against the Hornets where A-Davis went off.  Their wins at home came against San-Antonio, Chicago, Denver, and Portland.  All VERY good teams.  This will be cousins first game back during an 0-3 homestand.  The return of cousins will give the kings plenty of energy for their last game at home while the loss of jabari parker and the injury to Henson Milwaukee's center will be a big concern down under.  The Bucks have had a decent road trip with surprising victories over the suns and clips, but this was before the loss to one of their star players and on a back to back night, they will be running out of gas with the extra effort they have to put in to replace the loss of Henson and Parker.  If the shots aren't falling for the bucks, this one could get VERY ugly fast.

    Kings -6

     

    Will look over football but this is my for sure perfect storm game for tonight.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:51 PM ET #5

    Anthony Davis did NOT "go off" as you stated.

    I was AT that game sitting in the 2nd row.  Davis had below his averages in many categories.  Only made 11 shots, several were dunks, 9 rebounds and 0 assists. Kings are not good at home, with or without Cousins.

    But that being said, many injuries on Milkwaukee. Will wait to see by game-time what lineups are.


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    Anthony Davis did NOT "go off" as you stated.

    I was AT that game sitting in the 2nd row.  Davis had below his averages in many categories.  Only made 11 shots, several were dunks, 9 rebounds and 0 assists. Kings are not good at home, with or without Cousins.

    But that being said, many injuries on Milkwaukee. Will wait to see by game-time what lineups are.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:52 PM ET #6

    Also may have to replace Giannis Antekoutnofdotoumpo.
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    Also may have to replace Giannis Antekoutnofdotoumpo.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:55 PM ET #7

    Over the last 4 seasons Milwaukee has never won a back to back on the road when losing the previous game.  They havn't won a back to back on the road in over 2 seasons.  All losses coming by atleast 9 points, most by blow-out.
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    Over the last 4 seasons Milwaukee has never won a back to back on the road when losing the previous game.  They havn't won a back to back on the road in over 2 seasons.  All losses coming by atleast 9 points, most by blow-out.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:56 PM ET #8

    BOL bro!! You have any plays on the Jag/Titans game tonight?

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    BOL bro!! You have any plays on the Jag/Titans game tonight?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:58 PM ET #9

    Kings were 4-2 at home with cousins with wins against spurs, bulls, nuggets, and trailblazers.  I'd say that's a pretty nice resume at home with Cousins on the floor. Like I said though, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  The kings are not the same team without Cousins.  And I love the emotion behind the kings with his return, and all the losses the bucks have faced recently. 
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    Kings were 4-2 at home with cousins with wins against spurs, bulls, nuggets, and trailblazers.  I'd say that's a pretty nice resume at home with Cousins on the floor. Like I said though, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  The kings are not the same team without Cousins.  And I love the emotion behind the kings with his return, and all the losses the bucks have faced recently. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 1:59 PM ET #10

    guarantee you don't do better in the long run than people who bet all games

    doesn't matter if you bet a lot of games for small or few games for big, the only contribution to your bottom line is handicapping skill

    there is no such thing as being "hot", streaks are an illusion, if anything you should fade teams that have won more than their share of games

    I do like the Kings tonight tho, it's one of about 8 bets i'm considering
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    guarantee you don't do better in the long run than people who bet all games

    doesn't matter if you bet a lot of games for small or few games for big, the only contribution to your bottom line is handicapping skill

    there is no such thing as being "hot", streaks are an illusion, if anything you should fade teams that have won more than their share of games

    I do like the Kings tonight tho, it's one of about 8 bets i'm considering
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 2:00 PM ET #11

    And I'd say 28 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, and 2 steals is a pretty good game from Anthony Davis.
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    And I'd say 28 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, and 2 steals is a pretty good game from Anthony Davis.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 2:02 PM ET #12

    URZ guarantee's are dangerous things.  I guess the only answer is, wait and see.
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    URZ guarantee's are dangerous things.  I guess the only answer is, wait and see.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 2:07 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by SMHyman:

    Over the last 4 seasons Milwaukee has never won a back to back on the road when losing the previous game.  They havn't won a back to back on the road in over 2 seasons.  All losses coming by atleast 9 points, most by blow-out.

    to a large degree thats totally irrelevent tho.they have been absolute trash for a long time but this year is the best squad theyve had by far..i would throw that trend out the window....i bet theyve already blown sum of their recent losing trends out of the water this season thus far
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMHyman:

    Over the last 4 seasons Milwaukee has never won a back to back on the road when losing the previous game.  They havn't won a back to back on the road in over 2 seasons.  All losses coming by atleast 9 points, most by blow-out.

    to a large degree thats totally irrelevent tho.they have been absolute trash for a long time but this year is the best squad theyve had by far..i would throw that trend out the window....i bet theyve already blown sum of their recent losing trends out of the water this season thus far
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 2:19 PM ET #14

    It's not necessarily about the quality of the team, it's measuring all factors.  Winning back to back on the road is hard enough, especially coming off a tough loss the night before.  Looking at it from all different angles, 4th road game, 3 of their better big men out of the line up or injured, return of one of if not thee best big man in the game for kings and the last game of their home stand coming off three straight losses.  You gotta know that the Kings will be bringing it tonight, while the bucks will be ready to lick their wounds and head back home tomorrow. 
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    It's not necessarily about the quality of the team, it's measuring all factors.  Winning back to back on the road is hard enough, especially coming off a tough loss the night before.  Looking at it from all different angles, 4th road game, 3 of their better big men out of the line up or injured, return of one of if not thee best big man in the game for kings and the last game of their home stand coming off three straight losses.  You gotta know that the Kings will be bringing it tonight, while the bucks will be ready to lick their wounds and head back home tomorrow. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 2:23 PM ET #15

    And no, out of all the games tonight, this is the only one I see a ton of value in.  Nothing else sticks out to me.  Would lean the under in Thunder/Warriors with both teams having a day of rest, and the Warriors playing great defense at home and thunder playing great defense on road.  And with draymond green covering Durant and hopefully you'll see a lot of Iguodala on westbrook.  I think with the build up, it should stay under the total, but because of their past history and the games often times going over, I'm staying away from that bet.  Good Luck all.
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    And no, out of all the games tonight, this is the only one I see a ton of value in.  Nothing else sticks out to me.  Would lean the under in Thunder/Warriors with both teams having a day of rest, and the Warriors playing great defense at home and thunder playing great defense on road.  And with draymond green covering Durant and hopefully you'll see a lot of Iguodala on westbrook.  I think with the build up, it should stay under the total, but because of their past history and the games often times going over, I'm staying away from that bet.  Good Luck all.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 2:27 PM ET #16

    I had SAC last Saturday night, AT HOME, on a played down teaser. Basically a pk. I told myself, If SAC can't beat Detroit on a rockin saturday night at their house, they may not be capable of beating anybody. There is no way I'd risk my hard earned money on them. Orlando is now in that same boat for me. SAC and the Magic are garbage.
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    I had SAC last Saturday night, AT HOME, on a played down teaser. Basically a pk. I told myself, If SAC can't beat Detroit on a rockin saturday night at their house, they may not be capable of beating anybody. There is no way I'd risk my hard earned money on them. Orlando is now in that same boat for me. SAC and the Magic are garbage.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 2:28 PM ET #17

    PS, OKC sticks out to me, watch and see.
    I think getting in live at some point getting 7-10 points really sticks out.
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    PS, OKC sticks out to me, watch and see.
    I think getting in live at some point getting 7-10 points really sticks out.
     
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    jrgumpert, you're playing throwing your money at a "bad team without cousins" vs. another bad team and it sounds like the only justification was that sacramento was at home.  Detroit has a lot of good young players, they stick with most teams but have a hard time finishing games.  You have to consider all factors...scroll up and read my first post.  Then decide if it's a good place to place your bet.

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    jrgumpert, you're playing throwing your money at a "bad team without cousins" vs. another bad team and it sounds like the only justification was that sacramento was at home.  Detroit has a lot of good young players, they stick with most teams but have a hard time finishing games.  You have to consider all factors...scroll up and read my first post.  Then decide if it's a good place to place your bet.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 2:37 PM ET #19

    Sorry, but putting your money on either golden state or Oklahoma city is a coin flip.  Golden State is what 8-1 at home off a 16 game win streak.  OKC is on a 7 game win streak.  I know GS is missing bogut and Lee, but all it takes is curry or Thompson to get hot and this team can beat anyone.  Draymond Green and Iquodala are two of the better defenders in the game and Speights and Barnes are capable of having BIG games.  That home court is going to be ROCKING, no clear favorite there.
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    Sorry, but putting your money on either golden state or Oklahoma city is a coin flip.  Golden State is what 8-1 at home off a 16 game win streak.  OKC is on a 7 game win streak.  I know GS is missing bogut and Lee, but all it takes is curry or Thompson to get hot and this team can beat anyone.  Draymond Green and Iquodala are two of the better defenders in the game and Speights and Barnes are capable of having BIG games.  That home court is going to be ROCKING, no clear favorite there.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 2:39 PM ET #20

    Sold on your pick

    BOL bro
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    Sold on your pick

    BOL bro
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMHyman:

       You gotta know that the Kings will be bringing it tonight, while the bucks will be ready to lick their wounds and head back home tomorrow. 


    sigh,

    i love handicappers that tell you how to bet and how great they are at it and then proceed to have some crystal ball that tells them how each team is going to feel tonight. Do you have both locker rooms bugged? Do you think the players are discussing how they can't wait to get home and how they will just go through the motions?

    Fact is this is a rapidly improving Kings team but they can't play D a lick. A lot of times when your best player is out the team will improve. The kings improved their scoring but their D and rebounding suffered. If they can add Cousins to the improved scoring they win going away tonight, not because they are more motivated but because they will put out a way better and deeper roster and shots go in at home
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMHyman:

       You gotta know that the Kings will be bringing it tonight, while the bucks will be ready to lick their wounds and head back home tomorrow. 


    sigh,

    i love handicappers that tell you how to bet and how great they are at it and then proceed to have some crystal ball that tells them how each team is going to feel tonight. Do you have both locker rooms bugged? Do you think the players are discussing how they can't wait to get home and how they will just go through the motions?

    Fact is this is a rapidly improving Kings team but they can't play D a lick. A lot of times when your best player is out the team will improve. The kings improved their scoring but their D and rebounding suffered. If they can add Cousins to the improved scoring they win going away tonight, not because they are more motivated but because they will put out a way better and deeper roster and shots go in at home
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 4:23 PM ET #22

    also this game will be high scoring, at least to start, both teams are trending positive in number of shots taken, there will not be a lot of shot clock used up and ben mclemore and collison can't guard anyone esp not larry sanders,

    that being said i only like the first half over because of back to back for milwaukee and the potential for a big lead in the fourth and no fouling down the stretch esp

    i've taken kings -6 and first half over 102, if the night goes as it usually does i'll have about 8 or 9 other bets, i'm just as likely to win more than you even if my bets are 1/4 your size
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    also this game will be high scoring, at least to start, both teams are trending positive in number of shots taken, there will not be a lot of shot clock used up and ben mclemore and collison can't guard anyone esp not larry sanders,

    that being said i only like the first half over because of back to back for milwaukee and the potential for a big lead in the fourth and no fouling down the stretch esp

    i've taken kings -6 and first half over 102, if the night goes as it usually does i'll have about 8 or 9 other bets, i'm just as likely to win more than you even if my bets are 1/4 your size
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

    Quote Originally Posted by SMHyman:

       You gotta know that the Kings will be bringing it tonight, while the bucks will be ready to lick their wounds and head back home tomorrow. 
    sigh, i love handicappers that tell you how to bet and how great they are at it and then proceed to have some crystal ball that tells them how each team is going to feel tonight. Do you have both locker rooms bugged? Do you think the players are discussing how they can't wait to get home and how they will just go through the motions?Fact is this is a rapidly improving Kings team but they can't play D a lick. A lot of times when your best player is out the team will improve. The kings improved their scoring but their D and rebounding suffered. If they can add Cousins to the improved scoring they win going away tonight, not because they are more motivated but because they will put out a way better and deeper roster and shots go in at home

    Its sad you have to pick out one peice if info you dont like to criticize. The return of your best player, the last game of a home stand after losing the last 3 and the fact that the bucks are hurting player wise is a lot to motivate a team. Along with all the other reasons I mentioned. Id suggest you do your capping. And ill do mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

    Quote Originally Posted by SMHyman:

       You gotta know that the Kings will be bringing it tonight, while the bucks will be ready to lick their wounds and head back home tomorrow. 
    sigh, i love handicappers that tell you how to bet and how great they are at it and then proceed to have some crystal ball that tells them how each team is going to feel tonight. Do you have both locker rooms bugged? Do you think the players are discussing how they can't wait to get home and how they will just go through the motions?Fact is this is a rapidly improving Kings team but they can't play D a lick. A lot of times when your best player is out the team will improve. The kings improved their scoring but their D and rebounding suffered. If they can add Cousins to the improved scoring they win going away tonight, not because they are more motivated but because they will put out a way better and deeper roster and shots go in at home

    Its sad you have to pick out one peice if info you dont like to criticize. The return of your best player, the last game of a home stand after losing the last 3 and the fact that the bucks are hurting player wise is a lot to motivate a team. Along with all the other reasons I mentioned. Id suggest you do your capping. And ill do mine.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2014 - 5:01 PM ET #24

    Wat tha hail..I'll follow ya on tha Kings just for squirts and giggles..The best I could get though at my book was -7.
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    Wat tha hail..I'll follow ya on tha Kings just for squirts and giggles..The best I could get though at my book was -7.
     
     
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    I'ma gonna bump this info-laden thread up.
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    I'ma gonna bump this info-laden thread up.
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