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    BUCKS @ RAPTORS: GAME 5!!!! You can only ugly up a game so much before the hammer comes down on you!

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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 4:18 PM ET #51

    Racer, giannis gonna hit the 3 tonite, huh? I bet ibaka has more made 3s than the Greek. If giannis is forced to hit 3s, bucks are in trouble brotha. 
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    Racer, giannis gonna hit the 3 tonite, huh? I bet ibaka has more made 3s than the Greek. If giannis is forced to hit 3s, bucks are in trouble brotha. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 4:37 PM ET #52

    I've been on the Bucks since yesterday so seeing Lowry missed shootaround with back stiffness and Corey Joseph is apparently battling an illness doesn't upset me one bit here.
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    I've been on the Bucks since yesterday so seeing Lowry missed shootaround with back stiffness and Corey Joseph is apparently battling an illness doesn't upset me one bit here.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 4:39 PM ET #53

     Knowledge is power brother
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 4:39 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason497:

    I've been on the Bucks since yesterday so seeing Lowry missed shootaround with back stiffness and Corey Joseph is apparently battling an illness doesn't upset me one bit here.
    I'm on bucks too but Middleton supposedly isn't feelin good either so I'm a little worried about that




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason497:

    I've been on the Bucks since yesterday so seeing Lowry missed shootaround with back stiffness and Corey Joseph is apparently battling an illness doesn't upset me one bit here.
    I'm on bucks too but Middleton supposedly isn't feelin good either so I'm a little worried about that




     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 6:01 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Still not one loyal Raps fan who feels comfortable but with this game and line.

    Not a single one!?

    The silence speaks volumes!!!

    I watch the raptors games all the times and we know their limitations. They are not a true contender. But they are a grind out team. They are notorious for their slow starts. So it is not easy to take them on any games confidently. Having said that it seem like raptors are slowly coming around. I think that blow out woke them up a bit. So if the bucks struggle again with their shots, I can see raptors winning this comfortably. I am hesitant to bet this game as I can see raptors winning this by double digits or outright lose this game.
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    Still not one loyal Raps fan who feels comfortable but with this game and line.

    Not a single one!?

    The silence speaks volumes!!!

    I watch the raptors games all the times and we know their limitations. They are not a true contender. But they are a grind out team. They are notorious for their slow starts. So it is not easy to take them on any games confidently. Having said that it seem like raptors are slowly coming around. I think that blow out woke them up a bit. So if the bucks struggle again with their shots, I can see raptors winning this comfortably. I am hesitant to bet this game as I can see raptors winning this by double digits or outright lose this game.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 6:59 PM ET #56

    I think raptors win this game, because I think it's meant to go to 7. How much is hard to tell . At least 3 no more than 12. Kidd may have have a few tricks up his sleeve. But home crowd momentum after two road games as the Bucks did to tor. All rap players should play big was unsure at 6, but -5.5 I like tor. Add the 3 points
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    I think raptors win this game, because I think it's meant to go to 7. How much is hard to tell . At least 3 no more than 12. Kidd may have have a few tricks up his sleeve. But home crowd momentum after two road games as the Bucks did to tor. All rap players should play big was unsure at 6, but -5.5 I like tor. Add the 3 points
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 7:05 PM ET #57

    Normally you're ok but you are way off base here. Toronto rolls. The whole world is on the bucks too FYI
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    Normally you're ok but you are way off base here. Toronto rolls. The whole world is on the bucks too FYI
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 7:35 PM ET #58

    Raptors finally decided to show up....had a weird feeling something like this was going to happen..
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    Raptors finally decided to show up....had a weird feeling something like this was going to happen..
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 7:36 PM ET #59

    lets get it
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 7:42 PM ET #60

    11pt lead by Toronto 
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 7:49 PM ET #61

    Milwaukee blows
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 7:52 PM ET #62

    Brandon Lang

    100 Dime Bucks +6
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 7:53 PM ET #63

    16 point lead 
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 8:11 PM ET #64

    48 -57 Toronto 
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 8:18 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by zelo123:

    Brandon Lang

    100 Dime Bucks +6


    ahhh...the Lang kiss of death



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    Brandon Lang

    100 Dime Bucks +6


    ahhh...the Lang kiss of death



     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 8:20 PM ET #66

    2H Rap and Und
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 8:21 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by zelo123:

    Brandon Lang

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    LANG S*cks.
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    Brandon Lang

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    LANG S*cks.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 8:37 PM ET #68

    Lol man lang destroyed any chance
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 8:37 PM ET #69

    55-70
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 8:39 PM ET #70

    "Throw your arms into the defender, initiate contact and get to the line."
    That commentator just summed up current state of the NBA.
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    That commentator just summed up current state of the NBA.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2017 - 9:04 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Record: 22-25

    The pick:

    Bucks +6 over Raptors

    The Bucks will not only play this game extremely close, they have a great shot at winning it.

    That makes +6 a MONSTER SPREAD and far too much for this Raptors team to be giving up at this point in the series.

    So why are they giving it up? Because the books can't help but make standard adjustments from road to home. In this case that is 8.5 points off the closing line of Bucks -2.5 in Game 4. But there is so much more internally going on here that points to a Bucks cover, if not an outright win.

    1. Playing ugly

    Did you watch Game 4? What a shi*fest of below average basketball. You always have to worry about these afternoon starts (2pm in Milwaukee) and how teams can come out flat after playing virtually the entire season at 7 and 7:30.

    And came out flat they did. The Raps shot 41% and 22% from three. The Bucks shot 37% and 23% from 3.

    This is just the way the Raps like it. Lowry and Derozan have two of the lowest shooting percentages in the playoffs given the number of games they've played in (under 40%). This is even more alarming given these are really the primary (and at times only) scoring options for the Raps. So when they are off, the team implodes, as was exhibited last game in the Bucks blowout by 27.

    So what was the difference in the final score? Free throws and Jonas Valanciunis who was 5-5 from the floor with 12 points.

    As the game progressed the Raps played it just the way they like it: Close to the vest and try pull away late. They were successful in doing so. This doesn't work often, particularly in playoff series when teams make adjustments from game to game.

    The Bucks came out flat as did Giannis, and worse, he went completely cold in the 4th quarter. The Raps with Derozan and Lowry and suddenly revived a Valanciunis circa 2014 when he was decent and starting and they had enough to make the box score seem convincing for the this spread.

    2. Alarming problems for the Raps going forward and advantages for the Bucks

    A) Derozan was coming off a 0-8 game. History has dictated Derozan bounces back huge the next game, particularly in the playoffs. This will not happen two games in a row, that is, him going for 33 and accounting for more than 1/3 of the entire offense. That is not sustainable.

    That means the weight shifts back to Lowry. I simply don't see the killer instinct in anymore, nor do I see the consistency. He had a dud the first game with 4 points and an underwhelming 13 points in the 27 point blowout. Most of Lowry's offense here came on the back of Derozan (i.e., if Derozan isn't playing a high level, we simply can't depend on Lowry to here).

    B) Ibaka was absolutely dreadful for the second game in a row.

    NO shooting touch whatsoever. Perhaps this had something to do with him taking an elbow to the face early in the game. Over two games now he's 7-24 for 16 pts and only 2 FT's. That's a liability if there isn't a big bounceback in Game 5. He seems out of sorts in this offense, particularly when Derozan starts to ISO.

    C) Snell is getting whatever he wants from 3.

    The Bucks simply can't guard him on the perimeter. The spacing is obscene when he shoots the ball where there isn't a defender within 3 to 5 feet. 5-10 from three this game and 13-26 for the series. If the Bucks need a big shot, he will give it to them and he'll likely be open.

    D) The Bucks length

    It's brutally obvious and something the Raps have struggled with the entire series. On the defensive end the Bucks are blocking more shots (particularly key ones) and contesting far more, disrupting drives and making the Raps force shots. On the offensive end, when needed the offensive rebounding is prevalent.

    During one sequence at the 8 minute mark in the fourth, the Bucks got SIX offensive rebounds on one possession before scoring. Monroe, Giannis, and Maker are overpowering the Raps defensively/blocking shots, and grabbing loose balls, and intercepting passes as well in O-rebounding.

    This will continue.

    What's the end result, a TIGHT game where the Raps have demonstrated they don't respond in kind to their fans passion (as noted, 0-9 in the first game in the first round, which typically has been at home in recent years).

     Kidd, for whatever lack of respect he has around the league, is a great coach for the Bucks. He has the NBA pedigree as one of the great PG's to have played the game and knows how to relate to the younger players, particularly Giannis. You can see how he let's Giannis, Maker and Brogdon have the freedom to play their games. That matters in this league.

    Casey? Well he's been in this spot before and the results have been unspectacular. If not for a Lowry jumper with 8 seconds in Game 2, contested by Brogdon, the Bucks could have swept the first two, I wouldn't want to give out a single point with the Raps in this spot so I'll take every one.

    We don't have to win here, just hope the Raps continue to ugly it up (which the Bucks can pull away from) and use the full strength of the six in a close one or at best, an upset.

    And what's the wildcard?

    3. The Refs

    They called ticky-tack fouls on the Bucks in the 4th ensuring this series got tied up.

    But from an Adam Silver conspiratorial perspective, the Bucks are simply the better story and more interesting to the average fan with the rise of Giannis (and some of Maker) and Kidd as a chess piece. The Raps have been here done that and this is becoming old hat to the fan and the league. So if there is a wink and a nod from Silver, it would be having the refs give a favorable call or two more to the Bucks when it counts. It's conjecture and we don't cap on this but it is a theme that can play itself out to get us a cover. 


    demar going 0-8 was more him not even coming out to play.  he was never in attack mode..saying you cant count on that type of scoring is faulty reasoning when he averaged 27ppg this season and led the team the entire second half.

    snell is getting what he wants because they are living with that shot to get bodies on giannis.  i agreed with you for game 4 but im lost on this one.
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    Record: 22-25

    The pick:

    Bucks +6 over Raptors

    The Bucks will not only play this game extremely close, they have a great shot at winning it.

    That makes +6 a MONSTER SPREAD and far too much for this Raptors team to be giving up at this point in the series.

    So why are they giving it up? Because the books can't help but make standard adjustments from road to home. In this case that is 8.5 points off the closing line of Bucks -2.5 in Game 4. But there is so much more internally going on here that points to a Bucks cover, if not an outright win.

    1. Playing ugly

    Did you watch Game 4? What a shi*fest of below average basketball. You always have to worry about these afternoon starts (2pm in Milwaukee) and how teams can come out flat after playing virtually the entire season at 7 and 7:30.

    And came out flat they did. The Raps shot 41% and 22% from three. The Bucks shot 37% and 23% from 3.

    This is just the way the Raps like it. Lowry and Derozan have two of the lowest shooting percentages in the playoffs given the number of games they've played in (under 40%). This is even more alarming given these are really the primary (and at times only) scoring options for the Raps. So when they are off, the team implodes, as was exhibited last game in the Bucks blowout by 27.

    So what was the difference in the final score? Free throws and Jonas Valanciunis who was 5-5 from the floor with 12 points.

    As the game progressed the Raps played it just the way they like it: Close to the vest and try pull away late. They were successful in doing so. This doesn't work often, particularly in playoff series when teams make adjustments from game to game.

    The Bucks came out flat as did Giannis, and worse, he went completely cold in the 4th quarter. The Raps with Derozan and Lowry and suddenly revived a Valanciunis circa 2014 when he was decent and starting and they had enough to make the box score seem convincing for the this spread.

    2. Alarming problems for the Raps going forward and advantages for the Bucks

    A) Derozan was coming off a 0-8 game. History has dictated Derozan bounces back huge the next game, particularly in the playoffs. This will not happen two games in a row, that is, him going for 33 and accounting for more than 1/3 of the entire offense. That is not sustainable.

    That means the weight shifts back to Lowry. I simply don't see the killer instinct in anymore, nor do I see the consistency. He had a dud the first game with 4 points and an underwhelming 13 points in the 27 point blowout. Most of Lowry's offense here came on the back of Derozan (i.e., if Derozan isn't playing a high level, we simply can't depend on Lowry to here).

    B) Ibaka was absolutely dreadful for the second game in a row.

    NO shooting touch whatsoever. Perhaps this had something to do with him taking an elbow to the face early in the game. Over two games now he's 7-24 for 16 pts and only 2 FT's. That's a liability if there isn't a big bounceback in Game 5. He seems out of sorts in this offense, particularly when Derozan starts to ISO.

    C) Snell is getting whatever he wants from 3.

    The Bucks simply can't guard him on the perimeter. The spacing is obscene when he shoots the ball where there isn't a defender within 3 to 5 feet. 5-10 from three this game and 13-26 for the series. If the Bucks need a big shot, he will give it to them and he'll likely be open.

    D) The Bucks length

    It's brutally obvious and something the Raps have struggled with the entire series. On the defensive end the Bucks are blocking more shots (particularly key ones) and contesting far more, disrupting drives and making the Raps force shots. On the offensive end, when needed the offensive rebounding is prevalent.

    During one sequence at the 8 minute mark in the fourth, the Bucks got SIX offensive rebounds on one possession before scoring. Monroe, Giannis, and Maker are overpowering the Raps defensively/blocking shots, and grabbing loose balls, and intercepting passes as well in O-rebounding.

    This will continue.

    What's the end result, a TIGHT game where the Raps have demonstrated they don't respond in kind to their fans passion (as noted, 0-9 in the first game in the first round, which typically has been at home in recent years).

     Kidd, for whatever lack of respect he has around the league, is a great coach for the Bucks. He has the NBA pedigree as one of the great PG's to have played the game and knows how to relate to the younger players, particularly Giannis. You can see how he let's Giannis, Maker and Brogdon have the freedom to play their games. That matters in this league.

    Casey? Well he's been in this spot before and the results have been unspectacular. If not for a Lowry jumper with 8 seconds in Game 2, contested by Brogdon, the Bucks could have swept the first two, I wouldn't want to give out a single point with the Raps in this spot so I'll take every one.

    We don't have to win here, just hope the Raps continue to ugly it up (which the Bucks can pull away from) and use the full strength of the six in a close one or at best, an upset.

    And what's the wildcard?

    3. The Refs

    They called ticky-tack fouls on the Bucks in the 4th ensuring this series got tied up.

    But from an Adam Silver conspiratorial perspective, the Bucks are simply the better story and more interesting to the average fan with the rise of Giannis (and some of Maker) and Kidd as a chess piece. The Raps have been here done that and this is becoming old hat to the fan and the league. So if there is a wink and a nod from Silver, it would be having the refs give a favorable call or two more to the Bucks when it counts. It's conjecture and we don't cap on this but it is a theme that can play itself out to get us a cover. 


    demar going 0-8 was more him not even coming out to play.  he was never in attack mode..saying you cant count on that type of scoring is faulty reasoning when he averaged 27ppg this season and led the team the entire second half.

    snell is getting what he wants because they are living with that shot to get bodies on giannis.  i agreed with you for game 4 but im lost on this one.
     
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    Alright Gents,

    I'm waving the white flag now.

    Clearly a miss on all fronts. No excuses. Terrible pick.

    Thanks for your comments and I will regroup and be back with something when appropriate.

    I don't want to force things at the moment as it can quickly go downhill.

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    Alright Gents,

    I'm waving the white flag now.

    Clearly a miss on all fronts. No excuses. Terrible pick.

    Thanks for your comments and I will regroup and be back with something when appropriate.

    I don't want to force things at the moment as it can quickly go downhill.

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    Lowry double spins, trips over his own feet, and gets 2 FT.
    Nice league we have here.
    And now he falls for no reason again. 2 More FT's
    This is a complete joke.
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    Lowry double spins, trips over his own feet, and gets 2 FT.
    Nice league we have here.
    And now he falls for no reason again. 2 More FT's
    This is a complete joke.
     
     
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    This will burn like a wildfire. I'll be back after the game be man up with you if anything . One
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    This will burn like a wildfire. I'll be back after the game be man up with you if anything . One
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