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    TREE88
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 8:26 PM ET #1

    Off to Pocono where I'm sure Jim will be the favorite but no way we see 3-1 again. I like the 24 to step up and get it done this week. He had a good run last week and knows how to get around this place.

    I will absolutely be on Kurt. This team is about to get a win imo and Kurt knows a thing or two about this place as well with two top 5's in his last 3 races. I just hope we see some value with him this week.

    Lastly its Summer time and the hotter and slicker it gets Ol man Smoke is a threat to win every race. We'll see how the odds come out and go from there I guess.

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    Off to Pocono where I'm sure Jim will be the favorite but no way we see 3-1 again. I like the 24 to step up and get it done this week. He had a good run last week and knows how to get around this place.

    I will absolutely be on Kurt. This team is about to get a win imo and Kurt knows a thing or two about this place as well with two top 5's in his last 3 races. I just hope we see some value with him this week.

    Lastly its Summer time and the hotter and slicker it gets Ol man Smoke is a threat to win every race. We'll see how the odds come out and go from there I guess.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 8:32 PM ET #2

    I couldn't help but notice Mark Martin over the last 25 years or 50 races...Mark finishes in the Top 5 nearly 50 % of the time yet has no wins. If they can hold that Toyota engine together he may be a player here. I'll definitely be looking to him as a long shot with those type of numbers.

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    I couldn't help but notice Mark Martin over the last 25 years or 50 races...Mark finishes in the Top 5 nearly 50 % of the time yet has no wins. If they can hold that Toyota engine together he may be a player here. I'll definitely be looking to him as a long shot with those type of numbers.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 9:16 PM ET #3

    Kurt and tony will defiantly be the value plays this week. Juan would be another, ganasi has shown speed this year and juans pretty good here.
    Fastest cars on the track will be the gibbs cars obviously like every week, but likely not win or even finish   hey toyota: to finish first, first u must finish u jack wagons.

    But forget pocono the best race of the week will be Iowa, no kyle to run away with it so should be a great race! 
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    Kurt and tony will defiantly be the value plays this week. Juan would be another, ganasi has shown speed this year and juans pretty good here.
    Fastest cars on the track will be the gibbs cars obviously like every week, but likely not win or even finish   hey toyota: to finish first, first u must finish u jack wagons.

    But forget pocono the best race of the week will be Iowa, no kyle to run away with it so should be a great race! 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 9:20 PM ET #4

    Odds will b great this week at pocono for all drivers except JJ,Hamlin, and Kenseth... Kahne and Kyle might b 8,9,or 10-1  Juan,mcmurray,menard, and Martin will have great value   As far as Iowa logano might stink up the show..... 
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    Odds will b great this week at pocono for all drivers except JJ,Hamlin, and Kenseth... Kahne and Kyle might b 8,9,or 10-1  Juan,mcmurray,menard, and Martin will have great value   As far as Iowa logano might stink up the show..... 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 9:21 PM ET #5

    Iowa is always a great race Cat. You think the Big Boys will ever get there?

    I think they will just not sure how soon.

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    Iowa is always a great race Cat. You think the Big Boys will ever get there?

    I think they will just not sure how soon.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 9:30 PM ET #6

    I hope so tree, Im still pissed about the rock All these good tracks get replaced because they hold enough people or pay enough purse for the races, it sucks. 
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    I hope so tree, Im still pissed about the rock All these good tracks get replaced because they hold enough people or pay enough purse for the races, it sucks. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 9:37 PM ET #7

    Especially don't understand the love for Pocono Cat. I like the race ok just don't see why they have to run 2 races there in like 6 weeks?

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    Especially don't understand the love for Pocono Cat. I like the race ok just don't see why they have to run 2 races there in like 6 weeks?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 9:52 PM ET #8

    Wow sportsbook.com already has there #'s out!!!  Carl 20-1 and biffle 35-1  Martin 30-1. Juan and mcmurray 75-1      Kyle 8-1 Gordon 12-1    Kurt & tony 20-1 thought they would b a little higher!!! 
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    Wow sportsbook.com already has there #'s out!!!  Carl 20-1 and biffle 35-1  Martin 30-1. Juan and mcmurray 75-1      Kyle 8-1 Gordon 12-1    Kurt & tony 20-1 thought they would b a little higher!!! 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 9:58 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    Especially don't understand the love for Pocono Cat. I like the race ok just don't see why they have to run 2 races there in like 6 weeks?

    I used 2 hate watching pocono on tv and then I went to a race there and fell n love with the track!!! Been there 3 times saw Gordon win a rain shorted race there!!! Saw stewart win his first race as an owner there  and logano win there last year!!!! It is the most fan friendly track u get Pit passes for $30 and they r like garage passes at all the other tracks!!!!  I am glad that they did reduce the races by 100 miles!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    Especially don't understand the love for Pocono Cat. I like the race ok just don't see why they have to run 2 races there in like 6 weeks?

    I used 2 hate watching pocono on tv and then I went to a race there and fell n love with the track!!! Been there 3 times saw Gordon win a rain shorted race there!!! Saw stewart win his first race as an owner there  and logano win there last year!!!! It is the most fan friendly track u get Pit passes for $30 and they r like garage passes at all the other tracks!!!!  I am glad that they did reduce the races by 100 miles!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 10:03 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    Iowa is always a great race Cat. You think the Big Boys will ever get there?

    I think they will just not sure how soon.

    40k seats arent going to cut it they would have to at least double in seats!!!! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    Iowa is always a great race Cat. You think the Big Boys will ever get there?

    I think they will just not sure how soon.

    40k seats arent going to cut it they would have to at least double in seats!!!! 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 10:07 PM ET #11

    Martin at 30-1 the way them Toyotas have been running?

    I'll bite.

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    Martin at 30-1 the way them Toyotas have been running?

    I'll bite.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2013 - 10:33 PM ET #12

    Tree I think Denny Hamlin wins @ pocono this week buddy he & his crew know the only way in the chase is wins pocono is a boring race to me I agree the Iowa nationwide race will be the better race I'm still trying to get over Jimmie getting hosed @ Dover bro!
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    Tree I think Denny Hamlin wins @ pocono this week buddy he & his crew know the only way in the chase is wins pocono is a boring race to me I agree the Iowa nationwide race will be the better race I'm still trying to get over Jimmie getting hosed @ Dover bro!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2013 - 9:15 PM ET #13

    Sprint Cup   Party in the Poconos 400
    Fri 6/7  12:00PM
    Jimmie Johnson   +525
    Denny Hamlin   +650
    Matt Kenseth   +675
    Kasey Kahne   +850
    Kyle Busch   +875
    Jeff Gordon   +1200
    Brad Keselowski   +1275
    Tony Stewart   +1500
    Kevin Harvick   +1650
    Clint Bowyer   +1650
    Carl Edwards   +1700
    Dale Earnhardt Jr   +2000
    Kurt Busch   +2000
    Martin Truex Jr   +2200
    Joey Logano   +3000
    Greg Biffle   +3300
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    Sprint Cup   Party in the Poconos 400
    Fri 6/7  12:00PM
    Jimmie Johnson   +525
    Denny Hamlin   +650
    Matt Kenseth   +675
    Kasey Kahne   +850
    Kyle Busch   +875
    Jeff Gordon   +1200
    Brad Keselowski   +1275
    Tony Stewart   +1500
    Kevin Harvick   +1650
    Clint Bowyer   +1650
    Carl Edwards   +1700
    Dale Earnhardt Jr   +2000
    Kurt Busch   +2000
    Martin Truex Jr   +2200
    Joey Logano   +3000
    Greg Biffle   +3300
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2013 - 9:19 PM ET #14

    Race Matchups - Party in the Poconos 400 - Pocono Raceway - Long Pond, PA - Sunday, 9th at 1:00 PM - TNT

    Fri 6/7   8001 Jimmie Johnson #48   -120         
    12:00PM    8002 Denny Hamlin #11    -110  
          
    Fri 6/7   8003 Jeff Gordon #24   -130         
    12:00PM    8004 Kevin Harvick #29    +100
            
    Fri 6/7   8005 Matt Kenseth #20   -120         
    12:00PM    8006 Kasey Kahne #5    -110
            
    Fri 6/7   8007 Jamie McMurray #1   -125         
    12:00PM    8008 Juan Pablo Montoya #42    -105    
        
    Fri 6/7   8009 Brad Keselowski #2   -125         
    12:00PM    8010 Clint Bowyer #15    -105 
           
    Fri 6/7   8011 Ryan Newman #39   -130         
    12:00PM    8012 Mark Martin #55    +100 
           
    Fri 6/7   8013 Carl Edwards #99   -115         
    12:00PM    8014 Clint Bowyer #15    -115
             
    Fri 6/7   8015 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88   -120         
    12:00PM    8016 Kurt Busch #78    -110  
          
    Fri 6/7   8017 Martin Truex Jr #56   -140         
    12:00PM    8018 Greg Biffle #16    +110  
          
    Fri 6/7   8019 David Ragan #34   -135         
    12:00PM    8020 David Gilliland #38    +105
            
    Fri 6/7   8021 Casey Mears #13   -110         
    12:00PM    8022 Bobby Labonte #47    -120 
           
    Fri 6/7   8023 Matt Kenseth #20   -145         
    12:00PM    8024 Jeff Gordon #24    +115 
           
    Fri 6/7   8025 Joey Logano #22   -130         
    12:00PM    8026 Greg Biffle #16    +100     
       
    Fri 6/7   8027 Kasey Kahne #5   -120         
    12:00PM    8028 Kyle Busch #18    -110   

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    Race Matchups - Party in the Poconos 400 - Pocono Raceway - Long Pond, PA - Sunday, 9th at 1:00 PM - TNT

    Fri 6/7   8001 Jimmie Johnson #48   -120         
    12:00PM    8002 Denny Hamlin #11    -110  
          
    Fri 6/7   8003 Jeff Gordon #24   -130         
    12:00PM    8004 Kevin Harvick #29    +100
            
    Fri 6/7   8005 Matt Kenseth #20   -120         
    12:00PM    8006 Kasey Kahne #5    -110
            
    Fri 6/7   8007 Jamie McMurray #1   -125         
    12:00PM    8008 Juan Pablo Montoya #42    -105    
        
    Fri 6/7   8009 Brad Keselowski #2   -125         
    12:00PM    8010 Clint Bowyer #15    -105 
           
    Fri 6/7   8011 Ryan Newman #39   -130         
    12:00PM    8012 Mark Martin #55    +100 
           
    Fri 6/7   8013 Carl Edwards #99   -115         
    12:00PM    8014 Clint Bowyer #15    -115
             
    Fri 6/7   8015 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88   -120         
    12:00PM    8016 Kurt Busch #78    -110  
          
    Fri 6/7   8017 Martin Truex Jr #56   -140         
    12:00PM    8018 Greg Biffle #16    +110  
          
    Fri 6/7   8019 David Ragan #34   -135         
    12:00PM    8020 David Gilliland #38    +105
            
    Fri 6/7   8021 Casey Mears #13   -110         
    12:00PM    8022 Bobby Labonte #47    -120 
           
    Fri 6/7   8023 Matt Kenseth #20   -145         
    12:00PM    8024 Jeff Gordon #24    +115 
           
    Fri 6/7   8025 Joey Logano #22   -130         
    12:00PM    8026 Greg Biffle #16    +100     
       
    Fri 6/7   8027 Kasey Kahne #5   -120         
    12:00PM    8028 Kyle Busch #18    -110   

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2013 - 9:23 PM ET #15

    Mark +100 over Newman

    Mears -110 over Labonte

    Two small pre Q plays for me.

    odds to win suck again if you ask me.

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    Mark +100 over Newman

    Mears -110 over Labonte

    Two small pre Q plays for me.

    odds to win suck again if you ask me.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2013 - 9:26 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by kouz:

    Tree I think Denny Hamlin wins @ pocono this week buddy he & his crew know the only way in the chase is wins pocono is a boring race to me I agree the Iowa nationwide race will be the better race I'm still trying to get over Jimmie getting hosed @ Dover bro!

     

    You may be right bro but 6-1 on Denny blows.

    Dimes is killin me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kouz:

    Tree I think Denny Hamlin wins @ pocono this week buddy he & his crew know the only way in the chase is wins pocono is a boring race to me I agree the Iowa nationwide race will be the better race I'm still trying to get over Jimmie getting hosed @ Dover bro!

     

    You may be right bro but 6-1 on Denny blows.

    Dimes is killin me.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2013 - 10:21 PM ET #17

    Gotta give a shout to them Boomer Sooner Softball Girls.

    Hell of a comeback in extra innings last night and takes care of business tonight.

    OU World Series Champs!!

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    Gotta give a shout to them Boomer Sooner Softball Girls.

    Hell of a comeback in extra innings last night and takes care of business tonight.

    OU World Series Champs!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2013 - 11:10 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    Mark +100 over Newman

    Mears -110 over Labonte

    Two small pre Q plays for me.

    odds to win suck again if you ask me.

      there odds have sucked the past 5 or 6 weeks but if u look at it the past 2 winners have been 22-1 and 50-1
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    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    Mark +100 over Newman

    Mears -110 over Labonte

    Two small pre Q plays for me.

    odds to win suck again if you ask me.

      there odds have sucked the past 5 or 6 weeks but if u look at it the past 2 winners have been 22-1 and 50-1
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kouz:

    Tree I think Denny Hamlin wins @ pocono this week buddy he & his crew know the only way in the chase is wins pocono is a boring race to me I agree the Iowa nationwide race will be the better race I'm still trying to get over Jimmie getting hosed @ Dover bro!
    b careful with denny he has said that since the repave they dont have the track figured out like they used 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by kouz:

    Tree I think Denny Hamlin wins @ pocono this week buddy he & his crew know the only way in the chase is wins pocono is a boring race to me I agree the Iowa nationwide race will be the better race I'm still trying to get over Jimmie getting hosed @ Dover bro!
    b careful with denny he has said that since the repave they dont have the track figured out like they used 2
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2013 - 1:32 PM ET #20

    Add me to the list on mears   Was looking at mark over newman for Qualifying, but cant pull the trigger, will play khane over jj in qualifying tho
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    Add me to the list on mears   Was looking at mark over newman for Qualifying, but cant pull the trigger, will play khane over jj in qualifying tho
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2013 - 7:39 PM ET #21

    TRD going for reliability over power this weekend.  J is your winner.  Montoya and Menard value picks
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    TRD going for reliability over power this weekend.  J is your winner.  Montoya and Menard value picks
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2013 - 9:04 PM ET #22

    think Stewart, Montoya and even Jr will be plays this week for sure. Gordon should run very well also. Practice will really tell us a lot this weekend IMO. The Q record will get shattered this weekend. Testing was done by:

    Testing their cars were drivers Kevin Harvick, Tony Stewart, Jeff Burton, Ryan Newman, Paul Menard, and Danica Patrick.

    Definitely grabbing Stewart right now as he has always run well here and with the test and the win last week should be tough for sure.

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    think Stewart, Montoya and even Jr will be plays this week for sure. Gordon should run very well also. Practice will really tell us a lot this weekend IMO. The Q record will get shattered this weekend. Testing was done by:

    Testing their cars were drivers Kevin Harvick, Tony Stewart, Jeff Burton, Ryan Newman, Paul Menard, and Danica Patrick.

    Definitely grabbing Stewart right now as he has always run well here and with the test and the win last week should be tough for sure.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2013 - 10:21 PM ET #23

    Good info Shooter.

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    Good info Shooter.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2013 - 10:10 AM ET #24

    Some interesting facts to consider here:

    Junior led the most laps of any driver last year at Pocono.

    Montoya runs well here....I believe he has 4 straight top ten finishes.

    Newman runs well here also. Last ten races at Pocono, his worst finish was 14th. He also ran the practice runs along with Tony and Danica.

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    Some interesting facts to consider here:

    Junior led the most laps of any driver last year at Pocono.

    Montoya runs well here....I believe he has 4 straight top ten finishes.

    Newman runs well here also. Last ten races at Pocono, his worst finish was 14th. He also ran the practice runs along with Tony and Danica.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2013 - 1:02 PM ET #25

    Jumping on 3 matchups I like right off the bat because I think the wrong guy is favored in each of them:

    Montoya -105 vs. McMurray
    Martin +100 vs. Newman
    Gilliland +105 vs. Ragan
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    Jumping on 3 matchups I like right off the bat because I think the wrong guy is favored in each of them:

    Montoya -105 vs. McMurray
    Martin +100 vs. Newman
    Gilliland +105 vs. Ragan
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