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    vegasdennis
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 12:40 PM ET #1

    Back to the ovals as the Glen sucked for me.Think its a  Roush car thisweekend at Michigan.

    Mr Ed, Kenseth or "Blackeye" Biffle
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Back to the ovals as the Glen sucked for me.Think its a  Roush car thisweekend at Michigan.

    Mr Ed, Kenseth or "Blackeye" Biffle
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 1:38 PM ET #2

    Sportsbook.com is only odds up so far.Have  to see how close to these dimes is


    Jimmie Johnson        
    +700
           
            Carl Edwards        
    +700
           
            Denny Hamlin        
    +800
           
            Kyle Busch        
    +800
           
            Jeff Gordon        
    +800
           
            Kurt Busch        
    +800
           
            Kevin Harvick        
    +1200
           
            Matt Kenseth        
    +1200
           
            Tony Stewart        
    +1200
           
            Greg Biffle        
    +2000
           
            Dale Earnhardt Jr        
    +2500
           
            Brad Keselowski        
    +2500
           
            Clint Bowyer        
    +3000
           
            Ryan Newman        
    +3000
           
            Kasey Kahne        
    +3000
           
            Joey Logano        
    +3000
           
            Martin Truex Jr        
    +4000
           
            David Ragan        
    +4000
           
            Juan Pablo Montoya        
    +4000
           
            Mark Martin        
    +5000
           
            Jeff Burton        
    +5000
           
            Paul Menard        
    +5000
           
            David Reutimann        
    +5000
           
            Brian Vickers        
    +5000
           
            Jamie McMurray        
    +5000
           
            AJ Allmendinger        
    +6000
           
            Trevor Bayne        
    +10000
           
            Regan Smith        
    +10000
           
            Marcos Ambrose        
    +10000
           
            zx Field (Any Other Driver)        
    +10000
       
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    Sportsbook.com is only odds up so far.Have  to see how close to these dimes is


    Jimmie Johnson        
    +700
           
            Carl Edwards        
    +700
           
            Denny Hamlin        
    +800
           
            Kyle Busch        
    +800
           
            Jeff Gordon        
    +800
           
            Kurt Busch        
    +800
           
            Kevin Harvick        
    +1200
           
            Matt Kenseth        
    +1200
           
            Tony Stewart        
    +1200
           
            Greg Biffle        
    +2000
           
            Dale Earnhardt Jr        
    +2500
           
            Brad Keselowski        
    +2500
           
            Clint Bowyer        
    +3000
           
            Ryan Newman        
    +3000
           
            Kasey Kahne        
    +3000
           
            Joey Logano        
    +3000
           
            Martin Truex Jr        
    +4000
           
            David Ragan        
    +4000
           
            Juan Pablo Montoya        
    +4000
           
            Mark Martin        
    +5000
           
            Jeff Burton        
    +5000
           
            Paul Menard        
    +5000
           
            David Reutimann        
    +5000
           
            Brian Vickers        
    +5000
           
            Jamie McMurray        
    +5000
           
            AJ Allmendinger        
    +6000
           
            Trevor Bayne        
    +10000
           
            Regan Smith        
    +10000
           
            Marcos Ambrose        
    +10000
           
            zx Field (Any Other Driver)        
    +10000
       
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 1:54 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by TexanGambler:

    The Glen was very good for me. 2 wins.

     

     

    Were you able to buy Park Place and Boardwalk with your winnings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexanGambler:

    The Glen was very good for me. 2 wins.

     

     

    Were you able to buy Park Place and Boardwalk with your winnings?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:06 PM ET #4

    Blackeye Biffle.....

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    Blackeye Biffle.....

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:07 PM ET #5

    I think you are spot on with a Rouschkateer this week Dennis but I was suprised to see the 11 has the best finish average over the last 5 races here, with 2 wins I believe.

     

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    I think you are spot on with a Rouschkateer this week Dennis but I was suprised to see the 11 has the best finish average over the last 5 races here, with 2 wins I believe.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:09 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    I think you are spot on with a Rouschkateer this week Dennis but I was suprised to see the 11 has the best finish average over the last 5 races here, with 2 wins I believe.

     



    11 will probably be strong but if it comes down to fuel as it always seems to.Can they really afford to gamble
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    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    I think you are spot on with a Rouschkateer this week Dennis but I was suprised to see the 11 has the best finish average over the last 5 races here, with 2 wins I believe.

     



    11 will probably be strong but if it comes down to fuel as it always seems to.Can they really afford to gamble
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:13 PM ET #7

    It will probably come down to fuel for sure bro.

    Seems like all these damn races come down to fuel anymore. Goodyear is gonna have to ease up on their quality just a tad.

    But you are right.....I don't think he can afford to gamble. I didn't think about that..

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    It will probably come down to fuel for sure bro.

    Seems like all these damn races come down to fuel anymore. Goodyear is gonna have to ease up on their quality just a tad.

    But you are right.....I don't think he can afford to gamble. I didn't think about that..

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:14 PM ET #8

    Vick at +5000 is worth a longshot look imo.

    He has ran well here in the past.

     

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    Vick at +5000 is worth a longshot look imo.

    He has ran well here in the past.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:14 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    It will probably come down to fuel for sure bro.

    Seems like all these damn races come down to fuel anymore. Goodyear is gonna have to ease up on their quality just a tad.

    But you are right.....I don't think he can afford to gamble. I didn't think about that..




    100% agree they need tires that fall off more during a run
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    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    It will probably come down to fuel for sure bro.

    Seems like all these damn races come down to fuel anymore. Goodyear is gonna have to ease up on their quality just a tad.

    But you are right.....I don't think he can afford to gamble. I didn't think about that..




    100% agree they need tires that fall off more during a run
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:16 PM ET #10

    Keeping with the theme of big names not winning the past 3 weeks, may I throw Brian Vickers into the mix this week? I'm not completely sold on Vickers winning as he hasn't led a lap all year but I do believe his odds will be significantly <+5000 come race time. The last four races Q's at Mich have been all Top 4's which includes 3 poles. Last 6 have been all top 10 finish's which includes a W. For the record I'll be taking a Flyer on Vickers and Red Bull getting a W before they fold. 0.01 U to Win (50/1) and T3 (15/1) with my Monopoly Money. Do I get $200 for passing Go?
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    Keeping with the theme of big names not winning the past 3 weeks, may I throw Brian Vickers into the mix this week? I'm not completely sold on Vickers winning as he hasn't led a lap all year but I do believe his odds will be significantly <+5000 come race time. The last four races Q's at Mich have been all Top 4's which includes 3 poles. Last 6 have been all top 10 finish's which includes a W. For the record I'll be taking a Flyer on Vickers and Red Bull getting a W before they fold. 0.01 U to Win (50/1) and T3 (15/1) with my Monopoly Money. Do I get $200 for passing Go?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:19 PM ET #11

     Damn Tree, you beat me to him
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     Damn Tree, you beat me to him
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:21 PM ET #12

    May take a look at AJ too,I haven't looked but do believe he has qualified well here in past
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    May take a look at AJ too,I haven't looked but do believe he has qualified well here in past
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:27 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Goggles-Pisano:

     Damn Tree, you beat me to him

     

    Lol....Yeah I think the Vick is definately worth a flyer. His qualifying has been great here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goggles-Pisano:

     Damn Tree, you beat me to him

     

    Lol....Yeah I think the Vick is definately worth a flyer. His qualifying has been great here.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:36 PM ET #14

    Yup good averages for Vickers

    https://www.driveraverages.com/nascar/track.php?trk_id=15#recent
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    Yup good averages for Vickers

    https://www.driveraverages.com/nascar/track.php?trk_id=15#recent
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:43 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    Vick at +5000 is worth a longshot look imo.

    He has ran well here in the past.

     

     

    agreed, definate longshot play....and it will most likely come down to fuel once again.....Will be on Jr this week too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

    Vick at +5000 is worth a longshot look imo.

    He has ran well here in the past.

     

     

    agreed, definate longshot play....and it will most likely come down to fuel once again.....Will be on Jr this week too.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 2:55 PM ET #16

    wow, Biff @ +2000 is just plain crazy value, driver rating and laps led here are sick for him, plus he is going balls out for the win as that is pretty much his best chance of getting in the chase.
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    wow, Biff @ +2000 is just plain crazy value, driver rating and laps led here are sick for him, plus he is going balls out for the win as that is pretty much his best chance of getting in the chase.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 3:17 PM ET #17

    Biff? put Boris behind him and watch how fast he runs
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    Biff? put Boris behind him and watch how fast he runs
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goggles-Pisano:

    Biff? put Boris behind him and watch how fast he runs

     

    so true, that was a punk move by Biffle, hope Said kicks his ass at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goggles-Pisano:

    Biff? put Boris behind him and watch how fast he runs

     

    so true, that was a punk move by Biffle, hope Said kicks his ass at some point.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasdennis:

    May take a look at AJ too,I haven't looked but do believe he has qualified well here in past


    I don't think you want to put too much stake into him on this track.

    You guys have mentioned Vickers at 50:1, but I think Kahne is substantially more likely at 30:1.

    Also, Blackeye Biffle
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasdennis:

    May take a look at AJ too,I haven't looked but do believe he has qualified well here in past


    I don't think you want to put too much stake into him on this track.

    You guys have mentioned Vickers at 50:1, but I think Kahne is substantially more likely at 30:1.

    Also, Blackeye Biffle
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 3:37 PM ET #20

    Did i miss something, i was off yesterday and watched the race but didn't see post race, sounds like Boris gave biff the knuckler.I did see ky b after race , that kid needs to grow up i thought he was going to cry.. it was his fault.

    my longshot kk and newman

     

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    Did i miss something, i was off yesterday and watched the race but didn't see post race, sounds like Boris gave biff the knuckler.I did see ky b after race , that kid needs to grow up i thought he was going to cry.. it was his fault.

    my longshot kk and newman

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 6:51 PM ET #21

    the glen REALLY SUCKED 4 me n.wide was good but cup race was bad!!  0-3 matchup's  and no winner     the 5 that jump out at me this week r 
    carl 7-1
    kyle 9-1
    matt& tony 12-1
    biffle 20-1    hamlin won earlier this year but it was a 2 tire stop with about 11 laps 2 go....  best of luck 2 all       remember if kyle is racing the trucks BET HIM!!!!   and u will b   after the race. 
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    the glen REALLY SUCKED 4 me n.wide was good but cup race was bad!!  0-3 matchup's  and no winner     the 5 that jump out at me this week r 
    carl 7-1
    kyle 9-1
    matt& tony 12-1
    biffle 20-1    hamlin won earlier this year but it was a 2 tire stop with about 11 laps 2 go....  best of luck 2 all       remember if kyle is racing the trucks BET HIM!!!!   and u will b   after the race. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 8:40 PM ET #22

    Off topic question. I tried the Football forum and hit a dead end. If I should PM someone and get off this thread/forum with this question plz let me know. Just looking for quality info and I respect the opinions of the folks on this forum.  I've never in the past bet the AFC or NFC winner, Super Bowl winner or try to determine the Super Bowl Match Up pre season. When the Odds present themselves in my favor, I will bet ANYTHING as I did a few weeks ago as mentioned during the Pocono rain delay in one of these NASCAR threads of a wager of $200 on GB to win the NFC @ +600 from my Local (which have dropped). I'm thinking long term how to hedge the Green Bay wager in Jan, 2012 but something has presented itself now.  My Locals SB Match Up odds I believe are F'd for 1 of the fav NFC teams (not Green Bay). Can anyone help me determine SB Match Up Odds? Or, is it as simple as an "IF" bet? You know, if the team to Win the NFC is 5/1 and the Team you pick to win the AFC is 10/1 then the SB Match Up Odds should be 50/1? BTW, I had the 11 pre Q last time at Michigan and won't make that play again as he won on Pit Road. Chase Safe is something to think about the nex t few weeks but Kyle always thinks Win.
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    Off topic question. I tried the Football forum and hit a dead end. If I should PM someone and get off this thread/forum with this question plz let me know. Just looking for quality info and I respect the opinions of the folks on this forum.  I've never in the past bet the AFC or NFC winner, Super Bowl winner or try to determine the Super Bowl Match Up pre season. When the Odds present themselves in my favor, I will bet ANYTHING as I did a few weeks ago as mentioned during the Pocono rain delay in one of these NASCAR threads of a wager of $200 on GB to win the NFC @ +600 from my Local (which have dropped). I'm thinking long term how to hedge the Green Bay wager in Jan, 2012 but something has presented itself now.  My Locals SB Match Up odds I believe are F'd for 1 of the fav NFC teams (not Green Bay). Can anyone help me determine SB Match Up Odds? Or, is it as simple as an "IF" bet? You know, if the team to Win the NFC is 5/1 and the Team you pick to win the AFC is 10/1 then the SB Match Up Odds should be 50/1? BTW, I had the 11 pre Q last time at Michigan and won't make that play again as he won on Pit Road. Chase Safe is something to think about the nex t few weeks but Kyle always thinks Win.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 10:23 PM ET #23

    I Like Keselowski in the right matches, T10 and possibly even win. He is quickly becoming one of Cups biggest stars and power players. A long career is in Brads future.
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    I Like Keselowski in the right matches, T10 and possibly even win. He is quickly becoming one of Cups biggest stars and power players. A long career is in Brads future.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

    I Like Keselowski in the right matches, T10 and possibly even win. He is quickly becoming one of Cups biggest stars and power players. A long career is in Brads future.
        top 15 this weekend will really surprise me...    pocono and the glen r 2 tracks where u can steal great finishes!!!   if is crew chief doesn't copy kurt's pitting right b4 the rain at pocono he finishes 20th   and he was one of 4 or 5 drivers who ran the glen on  2 pit stops    he is running good  but we will b getting back 2 tracks where it's hard 2 steal a good finish
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    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

    I Like Keselowski in the right matches, T10 and possibly even win. He is quickly becoming one of Cups biggest stars and power players. A long career is in Brads future.
        top 15 this weekend will really surprise me...    pocono and the glen r 2 tracks where u can steal great finishes!!!   if is crew chief doesn't copy kurt's pitting right b4 the rain at pocono he finishes 20th   and he was one of 4 or 5 drivers who ran the glen on  2 pit stops    he is running good  but we will b getting back 2 tracks where it's hard 2 steal a good finish
     
     
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