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    broncos4ever
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 2:37 PM ET #1476

    Great Capping!  I love the info also, thanks for taking the time to post!

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    Great Capping!  I love the info also, thanks for taking the time to post!

     
    herbshack
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 3:47 PM ET #1477

    Quote Originally Posted by SBT:

    Didn't Washington only won by 1? At -1.25, wouldn't that be a loser?


    Ugh. Yeah good call. I was looking at the day before the 21st.
    Internet has been choppy on me. I'll fix that, and we'll keep truckin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBT:

    Didn't Washington only won by 1? At -1.25, wouldn't that be a loser?


    Ugh. Yeah good call. I was looking at the day before the 21st.
    Internet has been choppy on me. I'll fix that, and we'll keep truckin'

     
    herbshack
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 3:48 PM ET #1478

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    herbshack
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 3:52 PM ET #1479

    Quote Originally Posted by SBT:

    Didn't Washington only won by 1? At -1.25, wouldn't that be a loser?


    Well I got it wrong again. It is only a half lose. Whole point of the -1.25. Anyone want to double check this over the last 4 plays or so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBT:

    Didn't Washington only won by 1? At -1.25, wouldn't that be a loser?


    Well I got it wrong again. It is only a half lose. Whole point of the -1.25. Anyone want to double check this over the last 4 plays or so?

    Current Bankroll: $13,522.10
    from $4000 (+238.05 units)
     
    theDodgies
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 5:43 PM ET #1480

    got anything today bud?
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    got anything today bud?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2018 - 12:58 PM ET #1481

    For Today:

    Boston Red Sox -1.25 +117 
    vs Tampa Bay Rays
    $250 to win $292.50

    MLB TREND OF THE DAY: https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28month%20%3D%208%20and%20H%20and%20line%3E%3D110%20and%20p%3AH%20and%20p%3Amargin%20%3C%202%20and%2010%20%3E%3D%20p%3Aruns%20%3E%202%20and%20n%3Aseries%20game%21%3D1%29%20as%20%221.%20It%20is%20August.%202.%20You%20have%20a%20home%20dog%20of%20%2B110%20or%20more%203.%20Off%20of%20a%20home%20loss%20or%201%20run%20squeak%20by%20win%20where%203%20to%2010%20runs%20were%20scored.%204.%20Not%20the%20last%20game%20of%20a%20series.%20This%20team%20comes%20out%20with%20a%20false%20sense%20of%20self%20and%20a%20resulting%20flat%20performance%20next%20game%20going%20just%2069-168%20%2829.1%25%29%20SU%20-75.15%20units%20and%20a%20huge%20%2B19.0%25%20roi%20to%20fade%22&plot_PL=1 and a huge +19.0% roi to fade (Take the Red Sox)

    Sorry just a bunch of favorites checking in lately.
    We'll get more dogs come September...
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    For Today:

    Boston Red Sox -1.25 +117 
    vs Tampa Bay Rays
    $250 to win $292.50

    MLB TREND OF THE DAY: https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28month%20%3D%208%20and%20H%20and%20line%3E%3D110%20and%20p%3AH%20and%20p%3Amargin%20%3C%202%20and%2010%20%3E%3D%20p%3Aruns%20%3E%202%20and%20n%3Aseries%20game%21%3D1%29%20as%20%221.%20It%20is%20August.%202.%20You%20have%20a%20home%20dog%20of%20%2B110%20or%20more%203.%20Off%20of%20a%20home%20loss%20or%201%20run%20squeak%20by%20win%20where%203%20to%2010%20runs%20were%20scored.%204.%20Not%20the%20last%20game%20of%20a%20series.%20This%20team%20comes%20out%20with%20a%20false%20sense%20of%20self%20and%20a%20resulting%20flat%20performance%20next%20game%20going%20just%2069-168%20%2829.1%25%29%20SU%20-75.15%20units%20and%20a%20huge%20%2B19.0%25%20roi%20to%20fade%22&plot_PL=1 and a huge +19.0% roi to fade (Take the Red Sox)

    Sorry just a bunch of favorites checking in lately.
    We'll get more dogs come September...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2018 - 6:00 PM ET #1482

    Pittsburgh Pirates +0.75 RL +124
    vs Milwaukee Brewers 
    $161 to win $198.03

    • MLB TREND OF THE DAY: Team scores in 1 to 2 more innings than opponent and loses by a single run. Money next game at 397-316 +95.15 units. 
      (Pirates)

    • Plus .500 Teams off of a walk off win are 433-356 SU -103.72 units (+54.12 units to fade) against sub .500 teams.
       (Fade the Brewers)
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    Pittsburgh Pirates +0.75 RL +124
    vs Milwaukee Brewers 
    $161 to win $198.03

    • MLB TREND OF THE DAY: Team scores in 1 to 2 more innings than opponent and loses by a single run. Money next game at 397-316 +95.15 units. 
      (Pirates)

    • Plus .500 Teams off of a walk off win are 433-356 SU -103.72 units (+54.12 units to fade) against sub .500 teams.
       (Fade the Brewers)
     
    herbshack
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2018 - 12:06 PM ET #1483

    Big 9-1 WINNER on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

     

    Pittsburgh Pirates +0.75 RL +124
    vs Milwaukee Brewers 
    $161 to win $198.03


    Current Bankroll: $13,720.13
    from $4000 (+243.00 units)
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    Big 9-1 WINNER on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

     

    Pittsburgh Pirates +0.75 RL +124
    vs Milwaukee Brewers 
    $161 to win $198.03


    Current Bankroll: $13,720.13
    from $4000 (+243.00 units)
     
    holyroller18
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2018 - 12:07 PM ET #1484

    Whats you pick for today??
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    Whats you pick for today??
     
    undermysac
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2018 - 12:08 PM ET #1485

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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2018 - 12:18 PM ET #1486

    Quote Originally Posted by holyroller18:

    Whats you pick for today??

    crunching...

    will post if i have anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holyroller18:

    Whats you pick for today??

    crunching...

    will post if i have anything.
     
    daebaknaja
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2018 - 1:07 PM ET #1487

    your Brankroll should be $13470
    you lost your Redsox bet..nice try 
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    your Brankroll should be $13470
    you lost your Redsox bet..nice try 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2018 - 3:10 PM ET #1488

    Quote Originally Posted by daebaknaja:

    your Brankroll should be $13470
    you lost your Redsox bet..nice try 

    Ugh, not 'trying' anything. I thought I had fixed that but was thinking about the Nationals play. Not trying anything. Never have or else this thread wouldn't exist probably. I fixed it. Good catch and thank you.

    For today: 

    For today:

    Houston Astros -1.25 +129 
    vs Los Angeles Angels
    $257 to win $
    331.53

    Current Bankroll: $13,470.13
    from $4000 (+236.75 units)
    • MLB TREND OF THE DAY: https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28p%3Amargin%20%3C%3D%20-4%20and%20pp%3Amargin%20%3C%3D%20-4%20and%20op%3Aruns%20%3E%207%20and%20H%20and%20125%20%3E%20line%20%3E%20-125%29%20as%20%22A%20home%20team%2C%2025%20cents%20of%20pickem%2C%20off%20of%202%2B%20games%20lost%20by%204%20or%20more%20runs%20vs.%20a%20team%20that%20just%20blasted%208%2B%20runs%20goes%2062-108%20-49.42%20units%22&plot_PL=1 (Fade the Angels)

    • https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28t%3Ateam%3DAstros%20and%20A%20and%20F%20and%20date%3E%3D20160809%29%20as%20%22The%20Astros%20are%20100-41%20ON%20since%20Aug%2009%2C%202016%20as%20a%20road%20favorite%22&plot_PL=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by daebaknaja:

    your Brankroll should be $13470
    you lost your Redsox bet..nice try 

    Ugh, not 'trying' anything. I thought I had fixed that but was thinking about the Nationals play. Not trying anything. Never have or else this thread wouldn't exist probably. I fixed it. Good catch and thank you.

    For today: 

    For today:

    Houston Astros -1.25 +129 
    vs Los Angeles Angels
    $257 to win $
    331.53

    Current Bankroll: $13,470.13
    from $4000 (+236.75 units)
    • MLB TREND OF THE DAY: https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28p%3Amargin%20%3C%3D%20-4%20and%20pp%3Amargin%20%3C%3D%20-4%20and%20op%3Aruns%20%3E%207%20and%20H%20and%20125%20%3E%20line%20%3E%20-125%29%20as%20%22A%20home%20team%2C%2025%20cents%20of%20pickem%2C%20off%20of%202%2B%20games%20lost%20by%204%20or%20more%20runs%20vs.%20a%20team%20that%20just%20blasted%208%2B%20runs%20goes%2062-108%20-49.42%20units%22&plot_PL=1 (Fade the Angels)

    • https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28t%3Ateam%3DAstros%20and%20A%20and%20F%20and%20date%3E%3D20160809%29%20as%20%22The%20Astros%20are%20100-41%20ON%20since%20Aug%2009%2C%202016%20as%20a%20road%20favorite%22&plot_PL=1
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 1:37 PM ET #1489

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    WINNER! 3-1

    Houston Astros -1.25 +129 
    vs Los Angeles Angels
    $257 to win $
    331.53

    Current Bankroll: $13,801.66
    from $4000 (+245.04 units)

    Will follow up if we have anything for today. Crunching now... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    WINNER! 3-1

    Houston Astros -1.25 +129 
    vs Los Angeles Angels
    $257 to win $
    331.53

    Current Bankroll: $13,801.66
    from $4000 (+245.04 units)

    Will follow up if we have anything for today. Crunching now... 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 2:22 PM ET #1490

    Washington Nationals -0.75 +107 
    vs Philadelphia Phillies
    $15 to win $16.05

    • MLB TREND OF THE DAY: https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28100%3C%3Dline%3C148%20and%20H%20and%20month%3D8%20and%209%3Etotal%3E7.5%20and%20n%3Aseries%20game%3C3%20and%20series%20games%3E2%29%20as%20%22Home%20Dogs%20under%20%2B148%20in%20August%20choke%20at%2082-164%20-65.84%20units%2C%20%2B18.1%25%20roi%20since%202004%20when%20the%20total%20is%20set%20between%20the%20keys%20%289%20and%207%29.%22&plot_PL=1??????? (Fade the Phillies)

    • https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28AF%20and%2020%3Ep%3Aruns%3E%3D15%20and%20total%3C11%29%20as%20%22Road%20Favorites%20that%20scored%2015%20to%2020%20runs%20last%20game%20go%2052-14%20%2B33.57%20units%2C%20%2B35.6%25%20roi%20SU%3B%20total%3C11%22&plot_PL=1 (Take the Nationals. Record and roi is even better on the runline)
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    Washington Nationals -0.75 +107 
    vs Philadelphia Phillies
    $15 to win $16.05

    • MLB TREND OF THE DAY: https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28100%3C%3Dline%3C148%20and%20H%20and%20month%3D8%20and%209%3Etotal%3E7.5%20and%20n%3Aseries%20game%3C3%20and%20series%20games%3E2%29%20as%20%22Home%20Dogs%20under%20%2B148%20in%20August%20choke%20at%2082-164%20-65.84%20units%2C%20%2B18.1%25%20roi%20since%202004%20when%20the%20total%20is%20set%20between%20the%20keys%20%289%20and%207%29.%22&plot_PL=1??????? (Fade the Phillies)

    • https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28AF%20and%2020%3Ep%3Aruns%3E%3D15%20and%20total%3C11%29%20as%20%22Road%20Favorites%20that%20scored%2015%20to%2020%20runs%20last%20game%20go%2052-14%20%2B33.57%20units%2C%20%2B35.6%25%20roi%20SU%3B%20total%3C11%22&plot_PL=1 (Take the Nationals. Record and roi is even better on the runline)
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 2:27 PM ET #1491

    $257 yesterday..and today $15..thats really big difference..
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 5:53 PM ET #1492

    Hard to have any confidence in Nats right now.
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 5:59 PM ET #1493

    Quote Originally Posted by daebaknaja:

    $257 yesterday..and today $15..thats really big difference..
    Although many disagree the most successful sports betters in history (Alan Boston, Billy Walters etc...) NEVER flat bet - when they have something that is more +EV they will risk more. Deck is rich dealer has a 6 and you an 11? You double down of course.

    Obviously there is merit in flat betting too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daebaknaja:

    $257 yesterday..and today $15..thats really big difference..
    Although many disagree the most successful sports betters in history (Alan Boston, Billy Walters etc...) NEVER flat bet - when they have something that is more +EV they will risk more. Deck is rich dealer has a 6 and you an 11? You double down of course.

    Obviously there is merit in flat betting too.

    BOL HERB 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2018 - 2:17 PM ET #1494

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    Washington Nationals -0.75 +107 
    vs Philadelphia Phillies
    $15 to win $16.05
    • WINNER!

    Current Bankroll: $13,817.71
    from $4000 (+245.44 units)

    That win puts the thread at a new all time high by a little. Onwards and upwards...

    Crunching...
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    Washington Nationals -0.75 +107 
    vs Philadelphia Phillies
    $15 to win $16.05
    • WINNER!

    Current Bankroll: $13,817.71
    from $4000 (+245.44 units)

    That win puts the thread at a new all time high by a little. Onwards and upwards...

    Crunching...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2018 - 2:22 PM ET #1495

    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    Although many disagree the most successful sports betters in history (Alan Boston, Billy Walters etc...) NEVER flat bet - when they have something that is more +EV they will risk more. Deck is rich dealer has a 6 and you an 11? You double down of course.

    Obviously there is merit in flat betting too.

    BOL HERB 

    Wisdom feels one's lean is to flat bet probably. But things can be so calculated. The Nats weren't a solid bet for me so I bet them small. Maybe some of you passed and that wouldn't have been a bad move. I think you just do what works for you: that more or less being: what you can stay most consistent with. Most systems will work, and I've said before: I don't think the picking the bets part is all that difficult....I feel the emotional stuff bettors go through is where its make or break: do you operate mechanically (good) or are you down on your confidence off of a bad day or week or even whole season and change your strategy back and forth (terrible). 

    Consistency/Discipline and When-in-doubt, Passing are the two most crucial things I believe.
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    Although many disagree the most successful sports betters in history (Alan Boston, Billy Walters etc...) NEVER flat bet - when they have something that is more +EV they will risk more. Deck is rich dealer has a 6 and you an 11? You double down of course.

    Obviously there is merit in flat betting too.

    BOL HERB 

    Wisdom feels one's lean is to flat bet probably. But things can be so calculated. The Nats weren't a solid bet for me so I bet them small. Maybe some of you passed and that wouldn't have been a bad move. I think you just do what works for you: that more or less being: what you can stay most consistent with. Most systems will work, and I've said before: I don't think the picking the bets part is all that difficult....I feel the emotional stuff bettors go through is where its make or break: do you operate mechanically (good) or are you down on your confidence off of a bad day or week or even whole season and change your strategy back and forth (terrible). 

    Consistency/Discipline and When-in-doubt, Passing are the two most crucial things I believe.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by papamo:

    Hard to have any confidence in Nats right now.

    Those are the times to be bullish. I saw the public had that sentiment and I think I recall betting against a live dog there. Not the best thing to do, but I would say, one of the worst traps is taking the public dog. A line that looks so comfortable and everyone agrees; strike on the other side.

    There is a real simple way to think about all of this: Everyone knows the house always wins in the long haul. Be aware that they set traps, and thus make their own wagers against the public. By looking at where the public is getting baited and going the other way, you can set up a career for yourself coat tailing the hard work of the linemakers pretty much. Many sports books are lazy and just wait for big books like Pinnacle to set the odds and then just mimic them. A lot of people don't think the house makes its own wagers and each bet gets 50/50 action. Fact is, it rarely happens and the books are betting against you almost all of the time.

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    Hard to have any confidence in Nats right now.

    Those are the times to be bullish. I saw the public had that sentiment and I think I recall betting against a live dog there. Not the best thing to do, but I would say, one of the worst traps is taking the public dog. A line that looks so comfortable and everyone agrees; strike on the other side.

    There is a real simple way to think about all of this: Everyone knows the house always wins in the long haul. Be aware that they set traps, and thus make their own wagers against the public. By looking at where the public is getting baited and going the other way, you can set up a career for yourself coat tailing the hard work of the linemakers pretty much. Many sports books are lazy and just wait for big books like Pinnacle to set the odds and then just mimic them. A lot of people don't think the house makes its own wagers and each bet gets 50/50 action. Fact is, it rarely happens and the books are betting against you almost all of the time.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    Quote Originally Posted by papamo:

    Hard to have any confidence in Nats right now.
    Those are the times to be bullish. I saw the public had that sentiment and I think I recall betting against a live dog there. Not the best thing to do, but I would say, one of the worst traps is taking the public dog. A line that looks so comfortable and everyone agrees; strike on the other side.There is a real simple way to think about all of this: Everyone knows the house always wins in the long haul. Be aware that they set traps, and thus make their own wagers against the public. By looking at where the public is getting baited and going the other way, you can set up a career for yourself coat tailing the hard work of the linemakers pretty much. Many sports books are lazy and just wait for big books like Pinnacle to set the odds and then just mimic them. A lot of people don't think the house makes its own wagers and each bet gets 50/50 action. Fact is, it rarely happens and the books are betting against you almost all of the time.
    an_cheers   So true! I also feel for the trap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by papamo:

    Hard to have any confidence in Nats right now.
    Those are the times to be bullish. I saw the public had that sentiment and I think I recall betting against a live dog there. Not the best thing to do, but I would say, one of the worst traps is taking the public dog. A line that looks so comfortable and everyone agrees; strike on the other side.There is a real simple way to think about all of this: Everyone knows the house always wins in the long haul. Be aware that they set traps, and thus make their own wagers against the public. By looking at where the public is getting baited and going the other way, you can set up a career for yourself coat tailing the hard work of the linemakers pretty much. Many sports books are lazy and just wait for big books like Pinnacle to set the odds and then just mimic them. A lot of people don't think the house makes its own wagers and each bet gets 50/50 action. Fact is, it rarely happens and the books are betting against you almost all of the time.
    an_cheers   So true! I also feel for the trap!

     
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    For today:

    Tampa Bay Rays +0.75 +112
    vs Atlanta Braves
    $31 to win $34.72

    MLB TREND OF THE DAY: https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28D%20and%20220%3E%3Dline%3E%3D110%20and%20month%3D8%20and%20op%3ATLOB%3E%3D10%20and%20opp%3ATLOB%3E%3D10%29%20as%20%22In%20August%2C%20take%20an%20underdog%20between%20%2B110%20and%20%2B220%20whose%20opponent%20has%20been%20stranding%20ten%20or%20more%20runners%20in%20their%20last%20two%20or%20more%20games.%20In%20database%20history%20this%20is%20SU%3A%2060-52%20%28%2B0.0%20rpg%2C%2053.5%25%2C%20%2B30.6%25%20Roi%29%22&plot_PL=1 (Take the Rays!)
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    Tampa Bay Rays +0.75 +112
    vs Atlanta Braves
    $31 to win $34.72

    MLB TREND OF THE DAY: https://killersports.com/mlb/query?sdql=%28D%20and%20220%3E%3Dline%3E%3D110%20and%20month%3D8%20and%20op%3ATLOB%3E%3D10%20and%20opp%3ATLOB%3E%3D10%29%20as%20%22In%20August%2C%20take%20an%20underdog%20between%20%2B110%20and%20%2B220%20whose%20opponent%20has%20been%20stranding%20ten%20or%20more%20runners%20in%20their%20last%20two%20or%20more%20games.%20In%20database%20history%20this%20is%20SU%3A%2060-52%20%28%2B0.0%20rpg%2C%2053.5%25%2C%20%2B30.6%25%20Roi%29%22&plot_PL=1 (Take the Rays!)
     
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    Thanks Herb.
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    Chicago White Sox +1.25 +114
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    $51 to win $58.14

    MLB TREND OF THE DAY: An underdog off of a win and off of two+ straight games as >+180 dogs is 67-67 +50.68 units (Take the White Sox)

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