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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:33 AM ET #1

    YTD 66-42, +$7,304.83 (+31.56% RoR)

    Picks later. The reason I want to do this is to discourage the invaders (to choose a nice word) from coming in and telling me I am doing it wrong and need to pay more attention to trends, angles, streaks, historical (hysterical?) data, crystal balls and dart boards.

    I do what I do based on years of research to determine what does, and does not matter as concerns the probability of one baseball team defeating another. What I do is totally unique and I will stand behind it.

    Following all the traditional means available results in traditional results, and that means only one thing, the bookies have money to pay me with and they got it from traditional trend, angle, streak and data players.

    As of this morning I stand 66-42, 61.1%, which should be acceptable to anyone, but the news gets even better! The fact exists (documented here on Covers) that my average lay has been $214.32 and the average return has been $496.27, for a return on risk of 31.56%

    The really good news is that versus the standard 11/10 odds in foots and buckets a guy would have to hit 69.2% of his plays to achieve the same success.

    I do not know of any current or past Covers poster that has ever hit 69.2% on 100 or more plays. If he exists then give me the name because I will become a non-criticizing follower.

    All of which means I am (again) upset with myself for responding to bashers or anyone with “helpful hints” on how I might improve my handicapping, or those that think because I am not honoring some trend they spotted, I must not be aware of it. This post did me good, even if it means nothing to anyone else. I will conclude by saying, “Play me, fade me, or ignore me, but I am not going to be influenced by what anyone else has to say”. Thank you, I feel better now.

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    YTD 66-42, +$7,304.83 (+31.56% RoR)

    Picks later. The reason I want to do this is to discourage the invaders (to choose a nice word) from coming in and telling me I am doing it wrong and need to pay more attention to trends, angles, streaks, historical (hysterical?) data, crystal balls and dart boards.

    I do what I do based on years of research to determine what does, and does not matter as concerns the probability of one baseball team defeating another. What I do is totally unique and I will stand behind it.

    Following all the traditional means available results in traditional results, and that means only one thing, the bookies have money to pay me with and they got it from traditional trend, angle, streak and data players.

    As of this morning I stand 66-42, 61.1%, which should be acceptable to anyone, but the news gets even better! The fact exists (documented here on Covers) that my average lay has been $214.32 and the average return has been $496.27, for a return on risk of 31.56%

    The really good news is that versus the standard 11/10 odds in foots and buckets a guy would have to hit 69.2% of his plays to achieve the same success.

    I do not know of any current or past Covers poster that has ever hit 69.2% on 100 or more plays. If he exists then give me the name because I will become a non-criticizing follower.

    All of which means I am (again) upset with myself for responding to bashers or anyone with “helpful hints” on how I might improve my handicapping, or those that think because I am not honoring some trend they spotted, I must not be aware of it. This post did me good, even if it means nothing to anyone else. I will conclude by saying, “Play me, fade me, or ignore me, but I am not going to be influenced by what anyone else has to say”. Thank you, I feel better now.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:37 AM ET #2

    darn the haters, bro. Those are bots created by the books. Keep doing you. We sincerely are grateful for all you do.
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    darn the haters, bro. Those are bots created by the books. Keep doing you. We sincerely are grateful for all you do.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:38 AM ET #3

    Play Ball!
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:38 AM ET #4

    Great speech, but yesterday when I posted the comment, it was a helpful hint to CJ.  As you feel the need to comment about what I say, yet my trend I mention seems to pan out.  And for some reason you need to mention as if my comment was directed to you.  So you need to explain stuff that all should be a given.  Glad I don't have to explain myself.  I hope you continue to post winners.  I see you won like 6 in a row.  It would be great if you can hit 15 in a row like me, which has been documented on here.  :)

    Like you said, anyone can go on a streak, right??

    #Waaahaaa
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    Great speech, but yesterday when I posted the comment, it was a helpful hint to CJ.  As you feel the need to comment about what I say, yet my trend I mention seems to pan out.  And for some reason you need to mention as if my comment was directed to you.  So you need to explain stuff that all should be a given.  Glad I don't have to explain myself.  I hope you continue to post winners.  I see you won like 6 in a row.  It would be great if you can hit 15 in a row like me, which has been documented on here.  :)

    Like you said, anyone can go on a streak, right??

    #Waaahaaa
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:38 AM ET #5

     Your awesome Key. 
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     Your awesome Key. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:39 AM ET #6

    Crap, I was ready to give you a tip! 
    Nice nice job.
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    Crap, I was ready to give you a tip! 
    Nice nice job.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:40 AM ET #7

    Looking forward to your picks fear!
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    Looking forward to your picks fear!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:41 AM ET #8

    well written, well said!  In an open forum, you will get all kinds....think of the odd mix of Vegas street walkers with a keyboard and an internet connection!
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    well written, well said!  In an open forum, you will get all kinds....think of the odd mix of Vegas street walkers with a keyboard and an internet connection!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:43 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by chironelly:

     yet my trend I mention seems to pan out.  

     It would be great if you can hit 15 in a row like me, which has been documented on here.  :)



    You are moron. You have nothing to say, you deal in generalities, selectively reported trends in a vacuum, and you think hashtags are going to help you with your tiny weenie problem.

    How many times do you need to be told, halfwit, that 'seems to' is NOT A friggin MEASUREMENT. Keep a record for a minimum of 500 picks and then show us where it works. 

    Picking streaks don't automatically equal money. I could pick 20 winners in a row of heavily-juiced favorites, too, eventually, but it doesn't mean I'd have any money after betting them.

    As you don't understand these basic facts, you really have no right opening your mouth in educated company.

    Do us all a favor and stick it back in your mouth. WAHHAAAAAA
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    Quote Originally Posted by chironelly:

     yet my trend I mention seems to pan out.  

     It would be great if you can hit 15 in a row like me, which has been documented on here.  :)



    You are moron. You have nothing to say, you deal in generalities, selectively reported trends in a vacuum, and you think hashtags are going to help you with your tiny weenie problem.

    How many times do you need to be told, halfwit, that 'seems to' is NOT A friggin MEASUREMENT. Keep a record for a minimum of 500 picks and then show us where it works. 

    Picking streaks don't automatically equal money. I could pick 20 winners in a row of heavily-juiced favorites, too, eventually, but it doesn't mean I'd have any money after betting them.

    As you don't understand these basic facts, you really have no right opening your mouth in educated company.

    Do us all a favor and stick it back in your mouth. WAHHAAAAAA
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:43 AM ET #10

    Been following you for a while (partially a reason I kept coming to this site and eventually started posting), keep doing what your doing and ignore the rest.
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    Been following you for a while (partially a reason I kept coming to this site and eventually started posting), keep doing what your doing and ignore the rest.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:45 AM ET #11

    I have one tip for you, ignore the clowns on this site.
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:45 AM ET #12

    You are the man!!!! Ignore those idiots!! You by far are the best baseball capper on here. end of story
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    You are the man!!!! Ignore those idiots!! You by far are the best baseball capper on here. end of story
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:45 AM ET #13

    There are certain things in life that are just going to happen.

    You are going to keep cashing and this site will continue to have dildos post nonsense.

    You would think after years of seeing the same cycle they would "get it" but you can't fix stupid.


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    There are certain things in life that are just going to happen.

    You are going to keep cashing and this site will continue to have dildos post nonsense.

    You would think after years of seeing the same cycle they would "get it" but you can't fix stupid.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:45 AM ET #14

    Haters gonna hate.. GL Key great run
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    Haters gonna hate.. GL Key great run
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:45 AM ET #15

    and for the record all of CJ's plays today are fade plays since they are all with the majority and not anti consensus.

    Cleveland, Twins, Cardinals........All Fades according to that Anti Wagerline Consensus philosophy.

    So looks like those are my 3 plays for today.

    Let's see how my plays stack up against yours today Mr. BigShot
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    and for the record all of CJ's plays today are fade plays since they are all with the majority and not anti consensus.

    Cleveland, Twins, Cardinals........All Fades according to that Anti Wagerline Consensus philosophy.

    So looks like those are my 3 plays for today.

    Let's see how my plays stack up against yours today Mr. BigShot
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:48 AM ET #16

    Why do you even bother or feel dignified with a response to the trolling invaders?

    They are probably early 20's idiots who know it all; or you are betting against their teams and then they come out. Now it's just going to bring them out even more...

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    Why do you even bother or feel dignified with a response to the trolling invaders?

    They are probably early 20's idiots who know it all; or you are betting against their teams and then they come out. Now it's just going to bring them out even more...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by chironelly:

     
    Let's see how my plays stack up against yours today Mr. BigShot

    You've summed yourself up right here. Only long-term losers define skill from the sample size of a single day. No wonder your entire resume contains 'seems to', 'more than not', and not a single shed of tested return on investment data. 

    Notice how not a single person on the site is stepping in to say you know what you're talking about? That's because your 'tips' and 'knowledge' are as deep as any other casual, long-term losing bettor's.

    You're done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chironelly:

     
    Let's see how my plays stack up against yours today Mr. BigShot

    You've summed yourself up right here. Only long-term losers define skill from the sample size of a single day. No wonder your entire resume contains 'seems to', 'more than not', and not a single shed of tested return on investment data. 

    Notice how not a single person on the site is stepping in to say you know what you're talking about? That's because your 'tips' and 'knowledge' are as deep as any other casual, long-term losing bettor's.

    You're done.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:50 AM ET #18

    in my 50 yrs of baseball wagering i have never seen the things you achieve and the knowledge that you share. thank you key
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    in my 50 yrs of baseball wagering i have never seen the things you achieve and the knowledge that you share. thank you key
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:54 AM ET #19

    So glad you made this post first before your picks, Key! People hating on Key need to get a life and post their RoR and Win% before opening their mouths. 
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    So glad you made this post first before your picks, Key! People hating on Key need to get a life and post their RoR and Win% before opening their mouths. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:54 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by chironelly:

    and for the record all of CJ's plays today are fade plays since they are all with the majority and not anti consensus.

    Cleveland, Twins, Cardinals........All Fades according to that Anti Wagerline Consensus philosophy.

    So looks like those are my 3 plays for today.

    Let's see how my plays stack up against yours today Mr. BigShot


    Nobody cares about you though lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chironelly:

    and for the record all of CJ's plays today are fade plays since they are all with the majority and not anti consensus.

    Cleveland, Twins, Cardinals........All Fades according to that Anti Wagerline Consensus philosophy.

    So looks like those are my 3 plays for today.

    Let's see how my plays stack up against yours today Mr. BigShot


    Nobody cares about you though lol
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:55 AM ET #21

    Key, the haters are the ones who bet against you and lose. Those are the ones who feel the need to come in and hate.
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    Key, the haters are the ones who bet against you and lose. Those are the ones who feel the need to come in and hate.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 10:57 AM ET #22

    Don't worry about haters Key. Keep up the solid work. Appreciate your thoughts, insights and picks.

    Haters, go post on FYL's locks of the day.
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    Don't worry about haters Key. Keep up the solid work. Appreciate your thoughts, insights and picks.

    Haters, go post on FYL's locks of the day.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 11:01 AM ET #23

    Those are the bookies hating Key....lol...Great work buddy
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    Those are the bookies hating Key....lol...Great work buddy
     
    RebelTell2
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 11:02 AM ET #24

    Nice speech.....let's gamble.

    RT2
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2015 - 11:02 AM ET #25

    Awesome, ur awesome!  Back to work guys, this is unproductive for everyone.
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    Awesome, ur awesome!  Back to work guys, this is unproductive for everyone.
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