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Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 6:03 PM ET #126

Night Game Leans

Reds ML
Nattys ML
Natty Over 6.5 -140 "Bought Half on 5D"
Dbacks Over 7.5 +115 "No Buy"

Braves ML
Texas ML

Undecided on Yanks Game

Will post finals soon

Good luck

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 7:11 PM ET #127

Top Plays

Nattys ML
Braves ML

Seconday

Natty Over
Backs Over
Texas
Reds

Good luck

covers been slow day

sorry for delay

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 14, 2014 - 8:30 PM ET #128

6/14: Early Games Results

7w - 4L

Top Plays: 3 - 0

Pads Under - Winner

Philly - Winner

Clev - Winner "+130 Dog"

Secondary: 2 - 1

Houston - Winner "+125 Dog"

Tigers Over - Winner

Miami - Loser

Extras: 2 - 3

Philly Over - Winner

Houston Over - Winner

Miami Under - Loser

White sox - Loser

White Sox Under - Loser "4 Runs in 9th"

Hope u guys were able to profit from these early games

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 1:16 AM ET #129

Baddd night games
Reallllll baddddd

ayejae85

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Posts: 485

Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 2:47 AM ET #130

Still doing a great job, keep it up.

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 3:47 AM ET #131

6/14: Night Results

Top Plays: 0 - 2

Braves - Loser

Nattys - Loser

Seconday: 2 - 2

Texas - Winner

Backs Over - Winner

Cards Over - Loser

Reds - Loser

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 3:56 AM ET #132

Total for Day

9w - 8L

Record to Date

68W - 39L

After clearly having an awful 2nd half to todays games, i managed to stay a game over .500 for the day but is still unacceptable.

These days can happen with alot of games. Itsbeen a tuff few days of match ups...

gonna start my work now for a little and finish up in the morning, im goin to try to have my games posted earlier than usual

be back soon

dertydude

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 11:44 AM ET #133

Ye z. There are tons of trash out there. Sometimes they clog up the threads with that bs. But the mods always get to them and kick them off. I tried to reply the last couple days but the site has been having issues. And I see the train is still rolling. Thanks for the pads under yesterday. Really needed it. And even used the right ones last night to end up hitting a 2 teamer but would've been a 3 teamer if not for the tie.

dertydude

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 11:45 AM ET #134

Wow it went thru lol I was wondering because it took about 10 seconds.

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 12:08 PM ET #135

6/15/14: Initial Leans

Miami ML

Miami Under 8.5 -145 "Bought Run on 5D"

Cubs ML

Reds ML

Cards ML

Cards Over 7 -135 "Bought Half on 5D"

Dodgers ML

Balt Over 8.5 -145 "Bought Half on 5D"

Boston ML

Boston Under 9.5 -155 "Bought Run on 5D"

White Sox ML

White Sox Under 8.5 -125 "Bought Half on 5D"

Tampa Under 8.5 -135 "Bought Run on 5D"

SickCallREf

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Joined: Jun, 2010

Posts: 176

Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 12:25 PM ET #136

The days top plays were fire yesterday and friday the 13th was crazy! All of the R's cashed!!! I compared my leans with your plays and we matched on the rays,royals and reds and you got me back on the rangers...it's tough pulling the trigger against king felix but the circumstances added up just right to make a play. And being a hard-headed Tribe fan I couldn't pull it on the redsox against masterson...but I pulled it on the rockies! To say the least it was a great day for me. Really got me back in the game, Thanks! Ray$,Royal$,Red$,Ranger$,Rockie$

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 12:39 PM ET #137

Alright here we gooo

Top Plays:

Fish Under

Boston ML

White Sox

Tampa Under

Secondary:

Boston Under

White Sox Under

Dodgers ML

Cards ML

Extras:

Reds ML

Cubs ML

Cards Over

Balt Over

Not too sure whats goin on in the Miami Game, the line went from

-150 open to pk now, I know a few players arent playing but i never seen it make that much of a difference....I already made a bet on them but prolly wont take them anymore...apologize if anyone went ahead and took em from my initial list post, either way its not a loser yet lol

good luck to all

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 3:57 PM ET #138

Lotta close ball games

White sox total only dead play

Maybe they'll at least battle back in it for us

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 15, 2014 - 7:33 PM ET #139

Looks like

6 - 5
Another sub par day

Top Plays

Fish under - Winner
Tampa under - Winner
WHite Sox - Loser
Boston - Loser

Secondary: 2 - 2

Cards - Winner
Boston Under - Winner
Dodgers - Loser
White sox Under - Loser

Extra: 2 - 1 - 1

Reds - Winner
Cubs - Winner
Cards over - push
Balt over - Loser

Miami did pull out a Win. But I won't count towards my count since scratched it late....it's been a tuff weekend of match ups
Lotta close finishes
Boston would have been big today

I'm going to put a small str8 bet on the

Braves ML

Good luck

stevehowell

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Posts: 10

Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 2:57 AM ET #140

Zmoney9,

"riddle me this"

if I were to follow your plays , and put my hard earned dollars on them, why would i put any money on your secondary plays or just ur leans, or whatever. it would seem that one should only put more money on your best picks. right?,

if i put money, (not as much), on ur secondary plays, i know i would win or lose less money, that is ok too.

what i don't get is why someone would count the leans, and the secondary plays with there record. i seems to me that that would just inflate ones posted record.

why would someone risk anything on a lean, or a secondary play. if one picks 15 plays in a days time, say,

3-4 best bets, 3-4 secondary plays , and 3-4 leans , i don't' think an average better would only have confidence to play the best ones. yet they r counted into the record...maybe some of the secondary ones, but never the leans, unless one felt it was a good lean.

i mean, what would be the use in ur posting leans AND COUNTING THEM TOWARDS YOUR RECORD. Isn't the purpose to win money, not speculate on a play that you, yourself only have a hunch on, or a lean?

This is not meant to be negative, just a legitamate question. if you look at most other posters in the forums, they only post what they would put money on for the most part, right..

It looks like you post sooooo many plays, maybe to cover some of the loses of the premium picks, i just don't know..

i'm only thinking that, maybe someone that is nice enough to share his capping abilities as u r doing, maybe could only post the plays you have the most confidence in, as some people (me) only want to bet the top shelf ones that a poster posts. it's like you post so many plays, i, for one, dont know what to select from ur plays..

thanks for listening...again, this is not a hate, or ridicule thing, i sincerely was just up late, (been lurking a few days checking ur plays), (some very good ones too). but i just don't see the point in playing 10 or 15 games a day, and dividing em' up like you do. thanks, steve

Zmoney9,

"riddle me this"

if i put money, (not as much), on ur secondary plays, i know i would win or lose less money, that is ok too.

what i don't get is why someone would count the leans, and the secondary plays with there record. i seems to me that that would just inflate ones posted record.

why would someone risk anything on a lean, or a secondary play. if one picks 15 plays in a days time, say,

i mean, what would be the use in ur posting leans AND COUNTING THEM TOWARDS YOUR RECORD. Isn't the purpose to win money, not speculate on a play that you, yourself only have a hunch on, or a lean?

This is not meant to be negative, just a legitamate question. if you look at most other posters in the forums, they only post what they would put money on for the most part, right..

It looks like you post sooooo many plays, maybe to cover some of the loses of the premium picks, i just don't know..

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 10:27 AM ET #141

Steve,

Apprec ur post, and I'll do the best I can to answer all ur questions when I get back from work.

No offense taken at all

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 1:44 PM ET #142

Until than, anyone speak freely with any questions or concerns to my madness... Positive or negative either way

What information would anyone like for me to provide ?? Is my lay out helping or hurting ppl??

I'll do my best to respond

Thanks

z

dertydude

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 1:58 PM ET #143

Steve I may be able to help. The word leans may be what threw some off but from what I see he changed to extra plays. And just so anyone knows and if you look back it's been stated. Every play that z posts is used by him. He plays everything from 2 teamers to long open parlays but every single at is used by him to mix and match. Now if anyone who doesn't like using a lot of plays then of course should jugs always use the top plays because those are the ones that he will have more money on. And if you want to know why he is here or why he plays the way he does then you could go back to page one and look. But I'm sure he will reply like he said when he gets off and do a much better job then I did explaining. But he had stares a few times already why he plays the way he does and why he is even here so I thought I could save some time and clear it up. Hope that helps Steve. And let's get this money.

dertydude

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 4:16 PM ET #144

Z your posting plays that you bet on and you have did just fine at the way you have split them up. Top plays. Then secondary plays. The leans may have confused people but now you have labeled them extra plays. Now people who just play a few and want to tail should use the top plays because top plays means those are your favorite plays. And people who like playing parlays like us can compare what they like to your plays like I do and mix and match how they see fit. So please keep doing it just like you are because it is helping me to keep making money and I know you are so let's keep this train going and anyone else that wants to ride with us then comeon because you are doing the dam thing and a great job of it.

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 5:21 PM ET #145

6/15/14

Final Results

7w - 5L

Total Record to Date

75w - 44L

Zmoney9

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 5:54 PM ET #146

Steve, forgive me if i sound arrogant or rude, not my intentions

I think most ppl on this forum are getting sucked in with specific terminology....like leans, units, opinions, the amount of money im wagering or whatever...I think what ppl want to hear is 5star play, play of the game, play of the year, play of the decade...I really dont see any difference in saying ok These 2,3 or 4 games are my TOP Plays or my 5 Star.....than coming down and sayin, my secondary plays are 3 Star and Extras are 1 Star....its all irrelevant how you word it, but in the end its the same meaning...maybe i didnt make that clear....

For my Top Plays, I may have anywhere from 500 to 3000 at risk with them any given night, and depending what amount I play on my tops, decides my risk on seconday and so on with Extras

ive said multiple times my intentions. I also dont understand ur meaning by inflate my record...again, i may be wrong but wouldnt i be taking a risk at my record day in and out the more games I play? I havent changed a bit in the 9 days or so ive posted, Im still 30 games over .500, with a bad days in my opinion...

Again, I play every game that I post which is why i record them. Let me list an example of how I played yesterday, maybe give ppl a better understanding and could possibly answer ur question

Yesterday: I had 4 Top Plays

Fish Under

Tampa Under

White Sox

Boston

I did 500 dollar Reverse Action which risks total 1,000.00

Fish Under/White Sox

Another 500 dollar Reverse Action which risk total 1,000.00

Tampa Under/Boston

I came back with, 2 Three Team Parlays 200 Each

Fish Under/Tampa Under/ Cards "one of my Secondary Games

White Sox/Boston/Dodgers "One of my secondary Games

I cant remember exactly who I did my 4 or 5 teamers with, but was prolly a few 100 dollar ones..and they all lost

with the remaining Secondarys/Few Extras/ and May add one Top play

I mix a few of them up...to get every play I post one way or another..

I than, do a few 20 to 40 dollar 8 teams to 12 team parlays just for shits and giggles, bc im goin to have that day...

to comment on ur average better statement, on how they can have confidence in me? since i play so many and categorize them differently....well Arent I stating which games I like the most?

the categories I list can be utilized differently by different followers. I may have some followers that have no trust in themselves and just want my top, or some guys that may only play what matches what they personally liked.. I may have it listed as an extra but that could be enough for that person... i could list another 10 examples but i think u get the point

Yes, I could list my top 4 plays only. and the days I go 1/4 on my top plays but somehow snuck in couple 5 teamers from secondary and Extras.

The last thing a follower would want to hear is how I killed it with some other games but didnt post...so im not gonna be that guy

Im gonna stop using this retarded word LEAN.

My picks go thru a 3 step process....I go thru every game on the board

First:

I write down the side and total if i can find it from every game

Second:

than I relook again to see where I trust my money on everything i wrote down

Third:

I Rate my games: Top/Secondary/Extras

So yesterday

I wrote down 21 games, than step two went down to 11

step 3, I rated

Hope this helps and answers ur questions, I really dont know what else to say. but everything doesnt have to so Nip and Tuck.

Again, everyone wagers differently and has different bank rolls. So this isnt a thread where u have to come in and play by the book exactly like I am...Im a firm believer that even if everyone on this thread played different but I provide more winners than losers like i said i would, than i cant picture a problem...maybe Im wrong

If anyone has any questions let me know

Thanks

dertydude

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Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 6:32 PM ET #147

No your exactly right. And just refer anyone else who has questions to this page. You have provided more than enough info on what your doing here so please just focus on those plays and let's get this dam $ lol. But really you have answered in great detail enough info on what your doing.