Posted:
#51
Quote Originally Posted by hailua03:
Who is fish? Z
Who is fish? Z
Fish is Miami... sorry lol
MLB All Day Buffet...Z $$$
Posted:
#54
Ok Heres Final List
Favorite game on the Board
Rays ML
Top Plays
Cubs ML plus 160
Braves Under 10.5
Rays Over 6.5
Brew Under 8.5
Secondary Plays
Braves ML
Brew ML
Miami Under 9.5
Boston ML Added
Any games left off from initial list will be mixed in with main/secondary games for some long parlays
good luck all
Posted:
#59
Well, finally had that day....
Fav Play: 0 - 1
-Rays ML - Loser
"I woulda taken this s side a millions times again if i could, 8 hits to 3, 13 men left on base to 5...Wainy did not have many clean innings...Left bases loaded twice, lead off double in 8th, this team hasnt scored a run in 4 or 5 days and still have no pride to lay down a bunt to get em over to third.... A Loss is a Loss
im sorry if anyone tailed this, I will rebound from it
Top Plays: 2 - 2
-Cub ML +160 - Winner
-Brew Under 8.5 - Winner
-Braves Under 10.5 "Loser
" Dead in first inning, i'm still embarrassed i had this bet, cost me a load"
-Rays Over 6.5 - Loser
Seconday: 2 - 2
- Braves ML - Winner
- Boston Added - Winner
- Brew ML - Loser
- Fish Under 9.5 - Loser
Extras: 3 - 0 "One of those days, i take out three initial leans and sweep"
- Boston Under 9.5 - Winner
- Fish ML - Winner
- Seattle Under 7.5 - Winner
Posted:
#64
Quote Originally Posted by occy777:
So you count leans toward your record. So now it's I don't track units and I count leans. Hard to take you seriously, just sayin, not hatin.
So you count leans toward your record. So now it's I don't track units and I count leans. Hard to take you seriously, just sayin, not hatin.
Thats ok, good question...
Ive counted every game ive posted since day one whether it was a lean to start off or not, so i dont see the issue there...i think counting leans towards my record and not trackin units are completely two different things lol...Im not going to count the exact units because its too time consuming and everyone wagers differently...especially myself
My objective here is to give out more winners than losers, while doing so, if you notice. I'm not a huge Favorite player. Meaning I rarely go past -150 for favorites. I think Jays Monday Night was my only rare occasion. Also with that being said, I most defiantly mix in a good share of Dogs on the ML to even out the units if anyone is worried about that.
Another thing, the reason I list out my initial leans is just to help out other ppl if they are having trouble makin a decision, Maybe some of them matches who they wanted to take or whatever...
All the games I put down initially are going to be in some play one way or another each night...My goal after than is to narrow down the list on who I like more than others obviously. Those I player harder Str8 Up and tie together in IF Bets or Small Team Parlays for the Majority of my Risk that given night.
Last Night, I had a losing day. My main games sucked.. it is what it is, thats gambling but my overall for the night wasnt bad..and even though its still only been few days but my overall record is still solid....with my list of plays, ur granted the option of playing whoever you want..
Im not too sure what is the right way of doing things, but I wasn't going to post games day in and out, and not count them towards the record...If i post a lean, than change my opinion on the side, Ill announce that.
Just so happen last night and sunday. the games cut off from initial list sweeped both nights..
what can ya do
its alright, u dont have to take me seriously...ull be back lol
Posted:
#65
Occ the man plays lots of if bets and parlays. And how a person bets is up to them but if he puts down a lean you can believe unless he changes it that they will be in a long parlay or something. I like the way he is doing it. And it's not like he has changed his style. He's been counting all of the games he puts down against his record. And he's just trying to document his plays and contribute to the forum. I've been on here for years and seen people come and go. I've seen people try to sale their picks after going on a streak and some just for the attention. This man is not here for none of that. He is just here to post his plays and sometimes compare with other cappers. That's what covers is all about. So can we keep the negativity out of here because were just trying to get paid and hopefully use the site for what it use to be used for.
Posted:
#66
Couple other things....
If my games that are not Main/Secondary have lost.. I would have counted towards record just the same.... The other night. I made a comment about the nationals giants match up on Monday night, how it was fishy n didn't make sense. Well I was I indirectly meaning giants seemed like a sucker pick, and they ended up losing 9-2 I believe. So I was right
I didn't add that as a winner.
Last thing, with my record starting off as hott as I did. I want you guys to factor in that when I pick around 10 leans a night. I am risking my win percentage bc I am liable to go
1 for 10
We all know, the more games u pick the harder. But that hasn't stopped me and isn't gonna stop me
I actually already have all my leans for tonight
Will post around 6
If my games that are not Main/Secondary have lost.. I would have counted towards record just the same.... The other night. I made a comment about the nationals giants match up on Monday night, how it was fishy n didn't make sense. Well I was I indirectly meaning giants seemed like a sucker pick, and they ended up losing 9-2 I believe. So I was right
I didn't add that as a winner.
Last thing, with my record starting off as hott as I did. I want you guys to factor in that when I pick around 10 leans a night. I am risking my win percentage bc I am liable to go
1 for 10
We all know, the more games u pick the harder. But that hasn't stopped me and isn't gonna stop me
I actually already have all my leans for tonight
Will post around 6
Posted:
#67
Quote Originally Posted by dertydude:
Occ the man plays lots of if bets and parlays. And how a person bets is up to them but if he puts down a lean you can believe unless he changes it that they will be in a long parlay or something. I like the way he is doing it. And it's not like he has changed his style. He's been counting all of the games he puts down against his record. And he's just trying to document his plays and contribute to the forum. I've been on here for years and seen people come and go. I've seen people try to sale their picks after going on a streak and some just for the attention. This man is not here for none of that. He is just here to post his plays and sometimes compare with other cappers. That's what covers is all about. So can we keep the negativity out of here because were just trying to get paid and hopefully use the site for what it use to be used for.
Occ the man plays lots of if bets and parlays. And how a person bets is up to them but if he puts down a lean you can believe unless he changes it that they will be in a long parlay or something. I like the way he is doing it. And it's not like he has changed his style. He's been counting all of the games he puts down against his record. And he's just trying to document his plays and contribute to the forum. I've been on here for years and seen people come and go. I've seen people try to sale their picks after going on a streak and some just for the attention. This man is not here for none of that. He is just here to post his plays and sometimes compare with other cappers. That's what covers is all about. So can we keep the negativity out of here because were just trying to get paid and hopefully use the site for what it use to be used for.
I already stated I'm just sayin, not hatin. We all have our opinions and sometimes they may be seen as negative. All I'm sayin is leans should not be included in a record, it's misleading, either way. My second point as far as posting units with a record is clarity. Posting a record only is misleading. I was 22 games under 500 in hockey this year but made 54 units. Especially on odds driven sports like baseball and hockey. One could be 22 games over 500 and down a ton of units. All serious cappers post record, units and many times win % as well. That's why I commented about hard to take seriously. A lot of folks come on here to tail plays. If you really care about the forum and the people within, provide clarity for those people. Post your units along with your record for all to see and to make a better infiormed decision to tail or not tail. I have no idea where this man stands from a making money perspective. Nice record but.....and as you said yourself, "we're just trying to get paid". Hey listen, this man can do whatever he pleases and like you, I've been around a while as well, and I just feel whoever posts picks should provide as much clarity as possible to those who are on the other end trying to find a winning capper to tail. I don't post much at all as I mostly use this site for data but occasionally I will read some forum posts. As a matter of fact, it was your post on the NBA forum that made me even look at Z in the first place. I hope you and Z kill it along with everyone else, I just feel providing clarity and not misleading the masses unintentionally or not will make this site a much better place.
Posted:
#68
OCC...
appreciate your insight and advise....U make a few very good points epc with ur hockey comment. And I completely agree why in ur case there, u would post ur units. and thats bc u were 22 games under. So of course ur Units is very important. I think ppl may have misunderstood me. Its not that i disagree with units at all, i never said it...i just said, i dont have the time for it. My intentions is to provide daily picks for ppl and I am going to have more winners than loser, plain and simple....I wanna provide leans, lists, picks whatever it doenst matter...so ppl can come and compare if they would like, they can tail or they can fade....u may like a team, and see it on my list and even thou i dont make it my main play or 2ndary play...u may still play it bc i did have a lean on it...i think u would trust it after u saw my record thus far
I think u should go back and look at all the teams I picked since i started on saturday, not the totals, just the teams. prolly 50% of them are pick em games, 25% -130 and below and the rest are plus money dogs....
Now, last night Miami plus 130, Cubs plus 160 both came thru and win.... I feel like If i was trying to use those dogs to my advantage that they should out weigh my losses, than YES units would be important to track. But ive treated every game like 1 whether its been a dog or fav...and im not picking games that kill me in juice anyways, so that should help my case.
Only thing that i get juiced on is, totals. I always buy at least half run or full run...depending on where the line is and depending on that juice they offer on it....i feel thats critical in bases...its saved me too many times.
I hope u understand where im coming from and why ive chosen not to track the units, bc i do see what u mean however i think its relevant for me
time is money at the moment
will post games shortly
Posted:
#69
6/11/14 : Initial Leans
Pitt ML
Pitt Over 7.5
Philly ML
Brew Under 7.5 -135 "Bought Half Run on 5D"
Reds ML
Braves ML
Balt Over 7.5 -155 "Bought Run on 5D"
Oak ML
Oak Over 7.5 -135 "Bought Half Run on 5D"
Yanks Under 7.5 -150 "Bought Half Run on 5D"
Tampa ML
Tampa Over 6.5 -145 "Bought Half Run on 5D"
Posted:
#71
Quote Originally Posted by Zmoney9:
OCC...
OCC...
appreciate your insight and advise....U make a few very good points epc with ur hockey comment. And I completely agree why in ur case there, u would post ur units. and thats bc u were 22 games under. So of course ur Units is very important. I think ppl may have misunderstood me. Its not that i disagree with units at all, i never said it...i just said, i dont have the time for it. My intentions is to provide daily picks for ppl and I am going to have more winners than loser, plain and simple....I wanna provide leans, lists, picks whatever it doenst matter...so ppl can come and compare if they would like, they can tail or they can fade....u may like a team, and see it on my list and even thou i dont make it my main play or 2ndary play...u may still play it bc i did have a lean on it...i think u would trust it after u saw my record thus far
I think u should go back and look at all the teams I picked since i started on saturday, not the totals, just the teams. prolly 50% of them are pick em games, 25% -130 and below and the rest are plus money dogs....
Now, last night Miami plus 130, Cubs plus 160 both came thru and win.... I feel like If i was trying to use those dogs to my advantage that they should out weigh my losses, than YES units would be important to track. But ive treated every game like 1 whether its been a dog or fav...and im not picking games that kill me in juice anyways, so that should help my case.
Only thing that i get juiced on is, totals. I always buy at least half run or full run...depending on where the line is and depending on that juice they offer on it....i feel thats critical in bases...its saved me too many times.
I hope u understand where im coming from and why ive chosen not to track the units, bc i do see what u mean however i think its relevant for me
time is money at the moment
will post games shortly
Meant to say I think its IRRELEVANT*** for me
Posted:
#72
Occ nothing but respect. Never called you a hater. And didn't really mean you when I said let's keep the negativity out of here. You had a few questions and I believe they have been answered. I'm just here to make money and I've asked Z to post for a couple years now because I've seen him pick way more winners than losers and I've seen him make money at it. I respectfully disagree about a person needing to say how much they are betting. I don't care what a person is betting because it's not gonna change what I bet on a game. Now I sometimes have said what I'm betting on a game but not often. But again nothing but respect for all and just wanting this thread to be about beating the book. To many threads get jammed up with bs is the only reason I mentioned it. So let's get this $ and anyone who wants to talk about games and compare or discuss anything to do with getting Wins then come on in. And we all know our own bankroll so bet accordingly. Good luck the rest of the year and hope you stick around. Handshake.
Posted:
#75
Nice solid rebound
6/11 - Record
9w - 3l
Top Plays: 3 - 0
Rays ML - Winner
Reds ML - Winner
Reds ML - Winner
Secondary: 5 - 1
Brew under - Winner
Rays over - winner
Yanks under - winner
Oak ml - winner
Philly ml - Winner
Cubs over - Loser "bad loss"
Extras: 1 - 2
Balt over - loser
Braves - loser
Oak over - winner "lucky winner"
Any followers shoulda found a way to win tonight...
Just like last night with a few dogs coming in, also tonight
had a slight dog in Tampa and oak was decent dog to make up for any juice discussion
Total Record:
43W - 19L
Be back tomorrow
6/11 - Record
9w - 3l
Top Plays: 3 - 0
Rays ML - Winner
Reds ML - Winner
Reds ML - Winner
Secondary: 5 - 1
Brew under - Winner
Rays over - winner
Yanks under - winner
Oak ml - winner
Philly ml - Winner
Cubs over - Loser "bad loss"
Extras: 1 - 2
Balt over - loser
Braves - loser
Oak over - winner "lucky winner"
Any followers shoulda found a way to win tonight...
Just like last night with a few dogs coming in, also tonight
had a slight dog in Tampa and oak was decent dog to make up for any juice discussion
Total Record:
43W - 19L
Be back tomorrow
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