I never said it was fixed, but it has really has to cross your mind when you think about it. Im just pointing out a highly improbable circumstance that seemed too good to be true and worked out for the bookies. I also remember that Texas Baltimore game most of the public were on the under and it goes OVER by the half run of the line which was 11.5. Thats some bullshit! Ideally you would think Baseball is the only sport that cant be fixed because the outcome of the game cant be determined by a judgement call. I consider myself as knowledgeable a baseball fan as any, seriously and I feel like im flipping a coin and losing. I could predict the over unders to 100 different games and I promise you most of them wouldnt come within a half run of the actual total. It happens more often then you think, especially when the public bets heavy on one side. Bottom line: Vegas always always wins
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I never said it was fixed, but it has really has to cross your mind when you think about it. Im just pointing out a highly improbable circumstance that seemed too good to be true and worked out for the bookies. I also remember that Texas Baltimore game most of the public were on the under and it goes OVER by the half run of the line which was 11.5. Thats some bullshit! Ideally you would think Baseball is the only sport that cant be fixed because the outcome of the game cant be determined by a judgement call. I consider myself as knowledgeable a baseball fan as any, seriously and I feel like im flipping a coin and losing. I could predict the over unders to 100 different games and I promise you most of them wouldnt come within a half run of the actual total. It happens more often then you think, especially when the public bets heavy on one side. Bottom line: Vegas always always wins
What you say is true. This is why I do not bet 5 inning bets. I spoke to the MGM sportsbook manager. I asked him why this happened all the time. Why do 5 inning bets have strange outcomes? He looked at me and smiled. Kinda like this smile. I knew it. I knew vegas had there hand in the 5 inning bets.
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What you say is true. This is why I do not bet 5 inning bets. I spoke to the MGM sportsbook manager. I asked him why this happened all the time. Why do 5 inning bets have strange outcomes? He looked at me and smiled. Kinda like this smile. I knew it. I knew vegas had there hand in the 5 inning bets.
If anything the NBA, No way on MLB..... Quiet crying and take your losses like a man. Its called gambling for a reason! 5th inning Homer Hahaha thats a good one, Whos going to fix a 5inning bet???
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If anything the NBA, No way on MLB..... Quiet crying and take your losses like a man. Its called gambling for a reason! 5th inning Homer Hahaha thats a good one, Whos going to fix a 5inning bet???
Since the NHL was mentioned in an earlier post, I'll tell one of my own "hard luck" stories.
I was on the Over/5.5 in a game this hockey season ~ CAL @ EDM
There may have even been a home 'n' home angle to it all - where the Oilers had just beaten the Flames the night previous.
So here it was; 2-3 and the Oilers were going to win again. However there was at least 2 to 3 minutes left on the game clock. The Flames net minder never went to the bench for an extra skater, so that they might score and send the game to OT.
They had all the time in the world to make a play and attempt to redeem themselves against their hated rivals.
If you followed hockey this season, then you would know that a lot of ppl were on the over(5.5) in that game. 5.5 seemed like a conservative number, given the B2B nature and considering the two clubs involved.
You may choose to believe that the NHL is pure and free of fixes. But that game . . . That game had Vegas' fingerprints all the fuck over it.
As to the original post on this thread . . . it isn't suprsing at all that professional hitters start hitting big-flys, after the third time through the line-up.
You're just learning the hard way, that prop bets can burn up your pocketbook.
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Since the NHL was mentioned in an earlier post, I'll tell one of my own "hard luck" stories.
I was on the Over/5.5 in a game this hockey season ~ CAL @ EDM
There may have even been a home 'n' home angle to it all - where the Oilers had just beaten the Flames the night previous.
So here it was; 2-3 and the Oilers were going to win again. However there was at least 2 to 3 minutes left on the game clock. The Flames net minder never went to the bench for an extra skater, so that they might score and send the game to OT.
They had all the time in the world to make a play and attempt to redeem themselves against their hated rivals.
If you followed hockey this season, then you would know that a lot of ppl were on the over(5.5) in that game. 5.5 seemed like a conservative number, given the B2B nature and considering the two clubs involved.
You may choose to believe that the NHL is pure and free of fixes. But that game . . . That game had Vegas' fingerprints all the fuck over it.
As to the original post on this thread . . . it isn't suprsing at all that professional hitters start hitting big-flys, after the third time through the line-up.
You're just learning the hard way, that prop bets can burn up your pocketbook.
Here's one game In particular I remember that sticks out to me about 4 years ago when I was betting heavy. I had $500 on the game. It was the lakers and Blazers the O/U was 196.6 which was considered very low and much of the public had the over. It was in the 4th quarter lakers were leading at home 104-91 Lakers in the 4th quarter with a minute left and neither team could score! Portand kept jacking up threes and Lakers wanted to eat up clock, which is completely understandable. With 15 seconds left Portland misses a three and Lakers get a rebound they throw it out to Von Wafer who has a wide open lane, I mean every player is on the Portland side of the floor watching. So I think to myself shit hes probably gonna run around the rim and kill the clock, Ive seen that before. I was wonderin why the players kept lookin at the scoreboard every time in the 4th. Instead he gets rejected by the rim, turns around grabs his own rebound goes up dunks it as the game clock goes off. Im cheering for joy because I thought I won, meanwhile the referees quickly review the call and decided the ball left his hand three inches above the rim as time expired and it was waived off. Concidental???? I dont think so
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Here's one game In particular I remember that sticks out to me about 4 years ago when I was betting heavy. I had $500 on the game. It was the lakers and Blazers the O/U was 196.6 which was considered very low and much of the public had the over. It was in the 4th quarter lakers were leading at home 104-91 Lakers in the 4th quarter with a minute left and neither team could score! Portand kept jacking up threes and Lakers wanted to eat up clock, which is completely understandable. With 15 seconds left Portland misses a three and Lakers get a rebound they throw it out to Von Wafer who has a wide open lane, I mean every player is on the Portland side of the floor watching. So I think to myself shit hes probably gonna run around the rim and kill the clock, Ive seen that before. I was wonderin why the players kept lookin at the scoreboard every time in the 4th. Instead he gets rejected by the rim, turns around grabs his own rebound goes up dunks it as the game clock goes off. Im cheering for joy because I thought I won, meanwhile the referees quickly review the call and decided the ball left his hand three inches above the rim as time expired and it was waived off. Concidental???? I dont think so
I bet you wouldn't complain if it was the other way around and you won in the 5th or 9th inning? then in you're head it would be a great play. truth is anything can happen in a game and even when you make what seems to be the right play, unforseen things can happen, injuries, errors etc
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I bet you wouldn't complain if it was the other way around and you won in the 5th or 9th inning? then in you're head it would be a great play. truth is anything can happen in a game and even when you make what seems to be the right play, unforseen things can happen, injuries, errors etc
Here's one game In particular I remember that sticks out to me about 4 years ago when I was betting heavy. I had $500 on the game. It was the lakers and Blazers the O/U was 196.6 which was considered very low and much of the public had the over. It was in the 4th quarter lakers were leading at home 104-91 Lakers in the 4th quarter with a minute left and neither team could score! Portand kept jacking up threes and Lakers wanted to eat up clock, which is completely understandable. With 15 seconds left Portland misses a three and Lakers get a rebound they throw it out to Von Wafer who has a wide open lane, I mean every player is on the Portland side of the floor watching. So I think to myself shit hes probably gonna run around the rim and kill the clock, Ive seen that before. I was wonderin why the players kept lookin at the scoreboard every time in the 4th. Instead he gets rejected by the rim, turns around grabs his own rebound goes up dunks it as the game clock goes off. Im cheering for joy because I thought I won, meanwhile the referees quickly review the call and decided the ball left his hand three inches above the rim as time expired and it was waived off. Concidental???? I dont think so
thats why you never bet the o/u as it is the easiest thing to fix,
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Quote Originally Posted by cmoney177:
Here's one game In particular I remember that sticks out to me about 4 years ago when I was betting heavy. I had $500 on the game. It was the lakers and Blazers the O/U was 196.6 which was considered very low and much of the public had the over. It was in the 4th quarter lakers were leading at home 104-91 Lakers in the 4th quarter with a minute left and neither team could score! Portand kept jacking up threes and Lakers wanted to eat up clock, which is completely understandable. With 15 seconds left Portland misses a three and Lakers get a rebound they throw it out to Von Wafer who has a wide open lane, I mean every player is on the Portland side of the floor watching. So I think to myself shit hes probably gonna run around the rim and kill the clock, Ive seen that before. I was wonderin why the players kept lookin at the scoreboard every time in the 4th. Instead he gets rejected by the rim, turns around grabs his own rebound goes up dunks it as the game clock goes off. Im cheering for joy because I thought I won, meanwhile the referees quickly review the call and decided the ball left his hand three inches above the rim as time expired and it was waived off. Concidental???? I dont think so
thats why you never bet the o/u as it is the easiest thing to fix,
The first book is called The Fix Is In (A History of Baseball Gambling and Game Fixing Scandals)
by Daniel Ginsburg (317 pages, hardbound, $29.95). This 1995 text looks
at attempts and actual fixes of baseball games from the 19th Century
into the Pete Rose era. It is perhaps the most fascinating overall
history book on the subject, offering details such as Boston being a
standout city for gamblers to "take over" both the Braves and Red Sox
ballparks to openly accept bets. In one game, the gamblers rushed onto
the field to try to force the game to be rained out so all bets would
be off. They failed when the rain stopped. This was 1917 baseball. It
got worse when players like Hal Chase
of the Giants (and later playing for other teams) made open offers to
help fix games even before the 1919 scandal with the never-proved
guilty but often-mentioned gambler Arnold Rothstein.
There were minor league fixes and scandals and finger-pointing
at Tris Speaker and even the great Hall of Famer Ty Cobb, along with
Honus Wagner. Questions are introduced‹was there a coverup after the
big 1919 scandal to preserve the integrity of the game once and for
all?
Indexed and well referenced, this is not a well-publicized book
from a specialty publisher, but it's a valuable resource for those with
a need to know more.
Was "Shoeless Joe" Jackson innocent? Was he just an illiterate
innocent caught in the web at just the wrong time? Author David Fleitz,
profiles the player many call the greatest natural hitter the game has
ever known in Shoeless (The Life and Times of Joe Jackson) (314 pages, paperbound, $29.95).
Jackson died in 1951. There have been attempts to clear his
name‹to separate him from those barred from baseball forever for fixing
the 1919 World Series. Jackson, who "had the eye, the timing and the
smoothness" to become one of the greats in baseball, made $8,000 in
1920.
Jackson had sensitive feet‹he would play in his stockings in
the minor leagues where he got his nickname. Interestingly, Bob Feller
(who opposes Pete Rose's attempt to enter the Hall of Fame) and the
late Ted Williams, both thought Jackson had been punished enough and
deserved a place in Cooperstown.
This is a story‹a profile of a super player, another era and
what the sport was like generations ago. It's about how poorly players
were paid then, and how their temptations almost ruined the Great
American Pastime.
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The first book is called The Fix Is In (A History of Baseball Gambling and Game Fixing Scandals)
by Daniel Ginsburg (317 pages, hardbound, $29.95). This 1995 text looks
at attempts and actual fixes of baseball games from the 19th Century
into the Pete Rose era. It is perhaps the most fascinating overall
history book on the subject, offering details such as Boston being a
standout city for gamblers to "take over" both the Braves and Red Sox
ballparks to openly accept bets. In one game, the gamblers rushed onto
the field to try to force the game to be rained out so all bets would
be off. They failed when the rain stopped. This was 1917 baseball. It
got worse when players like Hal Chase
of the Giants (and later playing for other teams) made open offers to
help fix games even before the 1919 scandal with the never-proved
guilty but often-mentioned gambler Arnold Rothstein.
There were minor league fixes and scandals and finger-pointing
at Tris Speaker and even the great Hall of Famer Ty Cobb, along with
Honus Wagner. Questions are introduced‹was there a coverup after the
big 1919 scandal to preserve the integrity of the game once and for
all?
Indexed and well referenced, this is not a well-publicized book
from a specialty publisher, but it's a valuable resource for those with
a need to know more.
Was "Shoeless Joe" Jackson innocent? Was he just an illiterate
innocent caught in the web at just the wrong time? Author David Fleitz,
profiles the player many call the greatest natural hitter the game has
ever known in Shoeless (The Life and Times of Joe Jackson) (314 pages, paperbound, $29.95).
Jackson died in 1951. There have been attempts to clear his
name‹to separate him from those barred from baseball forever for fixing
the 1919 World Series. Jackson, who "had the eye, the timing and the
smoothness" to become one of the greats in baseball, made $8,000 in
1920.
Jackson had sensitive feet‹he would play in his stockings in
the minor leagues where he got his nickname. Interestingly, Bob Feller
(who opposes Pete Rose's attempt to enter the Hall of Fame) and the
late Ted Williams, both thought Jackson had been punished enough and
deserved a place in Cooperstown.
This is a story‹a profile of a super player, another era and
what the sport was like generations ago. It's about how poorly players
were paid then, and how their temptations almost ruined the Great
American Pastime.
Kev u def have a point and despite being on the losing end of many improbable endings, it really puts things in perspective when these things happen. I once bet the over on a college basketballball game, which there was 35 points scored in the last two minutes to hit the over by ONE POINT. I felt awful because someone I knew had even more money on the under and I know what goes around comes around. All im saying is that if you bet enough, you come to expect almost anything. Im not saying every game is fixed but every sport is fixed to some degree. These guys are professionals and unbelievable at what they do and these refs and officials know whats goin on, after all its a multibillion dollar industry. I consider myself extremely knowledgable in every sport and I used to think experience with betting and being in Finance would give me some kind of advantage. Believe me i tried every angle there possibly is. I couldnt be any more wrong. Before I began betting I thought to myself how can you fix Baseball its impossible??? After betting on hundreds of games i believe it...
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Kev u def have a point and despite being on the losing end of many improbable endings, it really puts things in perspective when these things happen. I once bet the over on a college basketballball game, which there was 35 points scored in the last two minutes to hit the over by ONE POINT. I felt awful because someone I knew had even more money on the under and I know what goes around comes around. All im saying is that if you bet enough, you come to expect almost anything. Im not saying every game is fixed but every sport is fixed to some degree. These guys are professionals and unbelievable at what they do and these refs and officials know whats goin on, after all its a multibillion dollar industry. I consider myself extremely knowledgable in every sport and I used to think experience with betting and being in Finance would give me some kind of advantage. Believe me i tried every angle there possibly is. I couldnt be any more wrong. Before I began betting I thought to myself how can you fix Baseball its impossible??? After betting on hundreds of games i believe it...
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. I knew it. I knew vegas had there hand in the 5 inning bets
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