For starters, the Over is 11-0-1 in these teams last 12 meetings. WHAT?! How can that be? Both ballparks are considered pitcher friendly and both offenses are in the bottom third in the league. Atlanta even has the best bullpen in all of the majors. You know what I say? It ends tonight. While you might say that Derek Lowe is twice as good of a pitcher as John Lannan (if you look at their advanced numbers), I don't think this is how it will play out tonight. Atlanta really struggles against left-handed pitchers and they may be without Jason Heyward tonight due to rest. Both pitchers are extremely good at forcing the ground ball. Derek Lowe's GB% is 59% for a 2.66 GB/FB ratio and John Lannan's GB% is 55% for a 2.18 GB/FB ratio. With ground ball numbers like this and two well below average hitting teams - this over trend just cannot continue. The line opened at the correct number of 8 but trend betters have pushed it up to 8.5. My model has this at 7.3 total runs and with all this extra value, I can't pass up the chance to ride the under with two elite ground ball pitchers throwing against two weak offenses. 22-4 my last 26 MLB wagers.
For starters, the Over is 11-0-1 in these teams last 12 meetings. WHAT?! How can that be? Both ballparks are considered pitcher friendly and both offenses are in the bottom third in the league. Atlanta even has the best bullpen in all of the majors. You know what I say? It ends tonight. While you might say that Derek Lowe is twice as good of a pitcher as John Lannan (if you look at their advanced numbers), I don't think this is how it will play out tonight. Atlanta really struggles against left-handed pitchers and they may be without Jason Heyward tonight due to rest. Both pitchers are extremely good at forcing the ground ball. Derek Lowe's GB% is 59% for a 2.66 GB/FB ratio and John Lannan's GB% is 55% for a 2.18 GB/FB ratio. With ground ball numbers like this and two well below average hitting teams - this over trend just cannot continue. The line opened at the correct number of 8 but trend betters have pushed it up to 8.5. My model has this at 7.3 total runs and with all this extra value, I can't pass up the chance to ride the under with two elite ground ball pitchers throwing against two weak offenses. 22-4 my last 26 MLB wagers.
Was hoping to open this thread up and see you on the Nats, as I am on them.
GL with the under play, si1ly.
I think this game is pretty much a toss up so you're on the right side as far as value is concerned. As far as the numbers go however, Atlanta has a much better starting pitcher and bullpen, so I couldn't pull the trigger on the Nationals. Best of luck to you though! I'd rather see the Nationals win and I've always wanted to see John Lannan succeed.
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Quote Originally Posted by Tone10:
Was hoping to open this thread up and see you on the Nats, as I am on them.
GL with the under play, si1ly.
I think this game is pretty much a toss up so you're on the right side as far as value is concerned. As far as the numbers go however, Atlanta has a much better starting pitcher and bullpen, so I couldn't pull the trigger on the Nationals. Best of luck to you though! I'd rather see the Nationals win and I've always wanted to see John Lannan succeed.
For starters, the Over is 11-0-1 in these teams last 12 meetings. WHAT?! How can that be? Both ballparks are considered pitcher friendly and both offenses are in the bottom third in the league. Atlanta even has the best bullpen in all of the majors. You know what I say? It ends tonight. While you might say that Derek Lowe is twice as good of a pitcher as John Lannan (if you look at their advanced numbers), I don't think this is how it will play out tonight. Atlanta really struggles against left-handed pitchers and they may be without Jason Heyward tonight due to rest. Both pitchers are extremely good at forcing the ground ball. Derek Lowe's GB% is 59% for a 2.66 GB/FB ratio and John Lannan's GB% is 55% for a 2.18 GB/FB ratio. With ground ball numbers like this and two well below average hitting teams - this over trend just cannot continue. The line opened at the correct number of 8 but trend betters have pushed it up to 8.5. My model has this at 7.3 total runs and with all this extra value, I can't pass up the chance to ride the under with two elite ground ball pitchers throwing against two weak offenses. 22-4 my last 26 MLB wagers.
Love this play. I have this one at 7.3 as well.
I passed on it due to how Lowe got rocked by the Nats last time out but I think it's definitely worth at least an 'action' wager.
For starters, the Over is 11-0-1 in these teams last 12 meetings. WHAT?! How can that be? Both ballparks are considered pitcher friendly and both offenses are in the bottom third in the league. Atlanta even has the best bullpen in all of the majors. You know what I say? It ends tonight. While you might say that Derek Lowe is twice as good of a pitcher as John Lannan (if you look at their advanced numbers), I don't think this is how it will play out tonight. Atlanta really struggles against left-handed pitchers and they may be without Jason Heyward tonight due to rest. Both pitchers are extremely good at forcing the ground ball. Derek Lowe's GB% is 59% for a 2.66 GB/FB ratio and John Lannan's GB% is 55% for a 2.18 GB/FB ratio. With ground ball numbers like this and two well below average hitting teams - this over trend just cannot continue. The line opened at the correct number of 8 but trend betters have pushed it up to 8.5. My model has this at 7.3 total runs and with all this extra value, I can't pass up the chance to ride the under with two elite ground ball pitchers throwing against two weak offenses. 22-4 my last 26 MLB wagers.
Love this play. I have this one at 7.3 as well.
I passed on it due to how Lowe got rocked by the Nats last time out but I think it's definitely worth at least an 'action' wager.
Good Luck with the full game. I'm on the first 5 under 4.5 @ -110. At least if it's 3-2 after 5 you've still got a shot. I couldn't hit water if I was sitting in a boat right now.
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Good Luck with the full game. I'm on the first 5 under 4.5 @ -110. At least if it's 3-2 after 5 you've still got a shot. I couldn't hit water if I was sitting in a boat right now.
Good Luck with the full game. I'm on the first 5 under 4.5 @ -110. At least if it's 3-2 after 5 you've still got a shot. I couldn't hit water if I was sitting in a boat right now.
With Atlanta's bullpen I'll always side with the full game under instead of first half. After you get to 6 innings, it's damn near impossible to score against the Braves. I'll definitely be rooting for you though! Best of luck.
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Quote Originally Posted by Revo23:
Good Luck with the full game. I'm on the first 5 under 4.5 @ -110. At least if it's 3-2 after 5 you've still got a shot. I couldn't hit water if I was sitting in a boat right now.
With Atlanta's bullpen I'll always side with the full game under instead of first half. After you get to 6 innings, it's damn near impossible to score against the Braves. I'll definitely be rooting for you though! Best of luck.
I passed on it due to how Lowe got rocked by the Nats last time out but I think it's definitely worth at least an 'action' wager.
Great analysis and good luck!
Glad we agree! I've noticed our models produce similar numbers but rarely the same. I do believe we both use similar data sets though, so it's no surprise that they come out in the same ballpark (excuse the baseball pun). Nice hit on San Fransisco this afternoon, it was a strong lean of mine but I couldn't justify the juice. Good luck tonight if you throw any more wagers out there!
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Quote Originally Posted by bodio:
Love this play. I have this one at 7.3 as well.
I passed on it due to how Lowe got rocked by the Nats last time out but I think it's definitely worth at least an 'action' wager.
Great analysis and good luck!
Glad we agree! I've noticed our models produce similar numbers but rarely the same. I do believe we both use similar data sets though, so it's no surprise that they come out in the same ballpark (excuse the baseball pun). Nice hit on San Fransisco this afternoon, it was a strong lean of mine but I couldn't justify the juice. Good luck tonight if you throw any more wagers out there!
For starters, the Over is 11-0-1 in these teams last 12 meetings. WHAT?! How can that be? Both ballparks are considered pitcher friendly and both offenses are in the bottom third in the league. Atlanta even has the best bullpen in all of the majors. You know what I say? It ends tonight. While you might say that Derek Lowe is twice as good of a pitcher as John Lannan (if you look at their advanced numbers), I don't think this is how it will play out tonight. Atlanta really struggles against left-handed pitchers and they may be without Jason Heyward tonight due to rest. Both pitchers are extremely good at forcing the ground ball. Derek Lowe's GB% is 59% for a 2.66 GB/FB ratio and John Lannan's GB% is 55% for a 2.18 GB/FB ratio. With ground ball numbers like this and two well below average hitting teams - this over trend just cannot continue. The line opened at the correct number of 8 but trend betters have pushed it up to 8.5. My model has this at 7.3 total runs and with all this extra value, I can't pass up the chance to ride the under with two elite ground ball pitchers throwing against two weak offenses. 22-4 my last 26 MLB wagers.
For starters, the Over is 11-0-1 in these teams last 12 meetings. WHAT?! How can that be? Both ballparks are considered pitcher friendly and both offenses are in the bottom third in the league. Atlanta even has the best bullpen in all of the majors. You know what I say? It ends tonight. While you might say that Derek Lowe is twice as good of a pitcher as John Lannan (if you look at their advanced numbers), I don't think this is how it will play out tonight. Atlanta really struggles against left-handed pitchers and they may be without Jason Heyward tonight due to rest. Both pitchers are extremely good at forcing the ground ball. Derek Lowe's GB% is 59% for a 2.66 GB/FB ratio and John Lannan's GB% is 55% for a 2.18 GB/FB ratio. With ground ball numbers like this and two well below average hitting teams - this over trend just cannot continue. The line opened at the correct number of 8 but trend betters have pushed it up to 8.5. My model has this at 7.3 total runs and with all this extra value, I can't pass up the chance to ride the under with two elite ground ball pitchers throwing against two weak offenses. 22-4 my last 26 MLB wagers.
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