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    UFC 228: Woodley vs. Till (9/8/18)

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    UFC 228

    Venue: American Airlines Center
    Location: Dallas, Texas
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    Venue: American Airlines Center
    Location: Dallas, Texas
     
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    Pay Per View - Main Card - 10:00 PM ET
    Tyron Woodley vs Darren Till
    Nicco Montano vs Valentina Shevchenko
    Jessica Andrade vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz
    Carla Esparza vs Tatiana Suarez
    Yair Rodriguez vs Zabit Magomedsharipov
    FX - Prelims - 8:00 PM ET
    Aljamain Sterling vs Cody Stamann
    Charles Byrd vs Darren Stewart
    Abdul Razak Alhassan vs Niko Price
    Jimmie Rivera vs John Dodson
    UFC Fight Pass - Early Prelims - 6:00 PM ET
    Diego Sanchez vs Craig White
    Jim Miller vs Alex White
    Irene Aldana vs Lucie Pudilova
    Ryan Benoit vs Roberto Sanchez
    Geoff Neal vs Frank Camacho
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    Pay Per View - Main Card - 10:00 PM ET
    Tyron Woodley vs Darren Till
    Nicco Montano vs Valentina Shevchenko
    Jessica Andrade vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz
    Carla Esparza vs Tatiana Suarez
    Yair Rodriguez vs Zabit Magomedsharipov
    FX - Prelims - 8:00 PM ET
    Aljamain Sterling vs Cody Stamann
    Charles Byrd vs Darren Stewart
    Abdul Razak Alhassan vs Niko Price
    Jimmie Rivera vs John Dodson
    UFC Fight Pass - Early Prelims - 6:00 PM ET
    Diego Sanchez vs Craig White
    Jim Miller vs Alex White
    Irene Aldana vs Lucie Pudilova
    Ryan Benoit vs Roberto Sanchez
    Geoff Neal vs Frank Camacho
     
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    Opening Odds (5Dimes)

    Tyron Woodley (-145)
    Darren Till (+115)

    Nicco Montano (+450)
    Valentina Shevchenko (-675)

    Jessica Andrade (-280)
    Karolina Kowalkiewicz (+240)

    Carla Esparza (+250)
    Tatiana Suarez (-350)

    Yair Rodriguez (+185)
    Zabit Magomedsharipov (-265)
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    Opening Odds (5Dimes)

    Tyron Woodley (-145)
    Darren Till (+115)

    Nicco Montano (+450)
    Valentina Shevchenko (-675)

    Jessica Andrade (-280)
    Karolina Kowalkiewicz (+240)

    Carla Esparza (+250)
    Tatiana Suarez (-350)

    Yair Rodriguez (+185)
    Zabit Magomedsharipov (-265)
     
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    Aljamain Sterling (-145)
    Cody Stamann (+105)

    Charles Byrd (-185)
    Darren Stewart (+145)

    Abdul Razak Alhassan (-185)
    Niko Price (+145)

    Jimmie Rivera (-195)
    John Dodson (+155)
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    Aljamain Sterling (-145)
    Cody Stamann (+105)

    Charles Byrd (-185)
    Darren Stewart (+145)

    Abdul Razak Alhassan (-185)
    Niko Price (+145)

    Jimmie Rivera (-195)
    John Dodson (+155)
     
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    Craig White (-245)

    Jim Miller (-130)
    Alex White (-110)

    Irene Aldana (-110)
    Lucie Pudilova (-130)

    Ryan Benoit (-135)
    Roberto Sanchez (-105)

    Geoff Neal (-230)
    Frank Camacho (+170)
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    Diego Sanchez (+175)
    Craig White (-245)

    Jim Miller (-130)
    Alex White (-110)

    Irene Aldana (-110)
    Lucie Pudilova (-130)

    Ryan Benoit (-135)
    Roberto Sanchez (-105)

    Geoff Neal (-230)
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    Really want to see Till win this but my mind is telling me Woodley will control the pace and win a lackluster decision. The way Till couldn't pull the triiger against Wonderboy was very telling IMO. He says it will be different this time and that Woodley isn't tricky at setting traps like Thompson but I think he's just talking. Woodley has the take down and a sledgehammer right so why wouldn't Till be as cautious if not more. Wonderboy doesn't have 1 punch KO power per se. And we all know how Woodley doesn't care how he gets a W. The height advantage and reach is the X to me. If Till will engage this could be FOTN if not the boo birds will be out by the 2nd. 

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    Really want to see Till win this but my mind is telling me Woodley will control the pace and win a lackluster decision. The way Till couldn't pull the triiger against Wonderboy was very telling IMO. He says it will be different this time and that Woodley isn't tricky at setting traps like Thompson but I think he's just talking. Woodley has the take down and a sledgehammer right so why wouldn't Till be as cautious if not more. Wonderboy doesn't have 1 punch KO power per se. And we all know how Woodley doesn't care how he gets a W. The height advantage and reach is the X to me. If Till will engage this could be FOTN if not the boo birds will be out by the 2nd. 

     
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    Oh and the Zabit/Yair fight should be great also. Zabit is must see TV. He is one of those guys who's road to the title could be really short because of his exciting style and the fact of who he trains with.

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    Oh and the Zabit/Yair fight should be great also. Zabit is must see TV. He is one of those guys who's road to the title could be really short because of his exciting style and the fact of who he trains with.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Really want to see Till win this but my mind is telling me Woodley will control the pace and win a lackluster decision. The way Till couldn't pull the triiger against Wonderboy was very telling IMO. He says it will be different this time and that Woodley isn't tricky at setting traps like Thompson but I think he's just talking. Woodley has the take down and a sledgehammer right so why wouldn't Till be as cautious if not more. Wonderboy doesn't have 1 punch KO power per se. And we all know how Woodley doesn't care how he gets a W. The height advantage and reach is the X to me. If Till will engage this could be FOTN if not the boo birds will be out by the 2nd. 

     
    During this interview with Till (8:56 in) after the UFC 25th Anniversary Press Conference, Darren explains that Thompson was very fast and clever when backed against the cage, something he thinks Woodley isn't as good at and says he will "march him down, and throw bombs." The biggest thing here is Till making Championship weight and it sounds like he is fully determined to do it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Really want to see Till win this but my mind is telling me Woodley will control the pace and win a lackluster decision. The way Till couldn't pull the triiger against Wonderboy was very telling IMO. He says it will be different this time and that Woodley isn't tricky at setting traps like Thompson but I think he's just talking. Woodley has the take down and a sledgehammer right so why wouldn't Till be as cautious if not more. Wonderboy doesn't have 1 punch KO power per se. And we all know how Woodley doesn't care how he gets a W. The height advantage and reach is the X to me. If Till will engage this could be FOTN if not the boo birds will be out by the 2nd. 

     
    During this interview with Till (8:56 in) after the UFC 25th Anniversary Press Conference, Darren explains that Thompson was very fast and clever when backed against the cage, something he thinks Woodley isn't as good at and says he will "march him down, and throw bombs." The biggest thing here is Till making Championship weight and it sounds like he is fully determined to do it.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Oh and the Zabit/Yair fight should be great also. Zabit is must see TV. He is one of those guys who's road to the title could be really short because of his exciting style and the fact of who he trains with.

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Oh and the Zabit/Yair fight should be great also. Zabit is must see TV. He is one of those guys who's road to the title could be really short because of his exciting style and the fact of who he trains with.

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Really want to see Till win this but my mind is telling me Woodley will control the pace and win a lackluster decision. The way Till couldn't pull the triiger against Wonderboy was very telling IMO. He says it will be different this time and that Woodley isn't tricky at setting traps like Thompson but I think he's just talking. Woodley has the take down and a sledgehammer right so why wouldn't Till be as cautious if not more. Wonderboy doesn't have 1 punch KO power per se. And we all know how Woodley doesn't care how he gets a W. The height advantage and reach is the X to me. If Till will engage this could be FOTN if not the boo birds will be out by the 2nd. 
      During this interview with Till (8:56 in) after the UFC 25th Anniversary Press Conference, Darren explains that Thompson was very fast and clever when backed against the cage, something he thinks Woodley isn't as good at and says he will "march him down, and throw bombs." The biggest thing here is Till making Championship weight and it sounds like he is fully determined to do it.

    Would love to see him do it. Put him against the fence ala Nate Marquardt.

    True...making weight is mandatory. That extra pound for the belt is huge to someone who's absolutely draining themselves to make the limit. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Really want to see Till win this but my mind is telling me Woodley will control the pace and win a lackluster decision. The way Till couldn't pull the triiger against Wonderboy was very telling IMO. He says it will be different this time and that Woodley isn't tricky at setting traps like Thompson but I think he's just talking. Woodley has the take down and a sledgehammer right so why wouldn't Till be as cautious if not more. Wonderboy doesn't have 1 punch KO power per se. And we all know how Woodley doesn't care how he gets a W. The height advantage and reach is the X to me. If Till will engage this could be FOTN if not the boo birds will be out by the 2nd. 
      During this interview with Till (8:56 in) after the UFC 25th Anniversary Press Conference, Darren explains that Thompson was very fast and clever when backed against the cage, something he thinks Woodley isn't as good at and says he will "march him down, and throw bombs." The biggest thing here is Till making Championship weight and it sounds like he is fully determined to do it.

    Would love to see him do it. Put him against the fence ala Nate Marquardt.

    True...making weight is mandatory. That extra pound for the belt is huge to someone who's absolutely draining themselves to make the limit. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO


    Just saw the news. Wonder if the UFC will cut him again, and who steps in for Yair on two weeks notice. No one wants to fight Zabit, and for good reason as he is an animal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO


    Just saw the news. Wonder if the UFC will cut him again, and who steps in for Yair on two weeks notice. No one wants to fight Zabit, and for good reason as he is an animal.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO
    Just saw the news. Wonder if the UFC will cut him again, and who steps in for Yair on two weeks notice. No one wants to fight Zabit, and for good reason as he is an animal.
    damn liniker said he'll fight him and zbabit said he was down, but Sean Shelby doesn't like it . That be a great fight. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO
    Just saw the news. Wonder if the UFC will cut him again, and who steps in for Yair on two weeks notice. No one wants to fight Zabit, and for good reason as he is an animal.
    damn liniker said he'll fight him and zbabit said he was down, but Sean Shelby doesn't like it . That be a great fight. 

     
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    Till as a dog, biiiiiiiiig

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO
    Just saw the news. Wonder if the UFC will cut him again, and who steps in for Yair on two weeks notice. No one wants to fight Zabit, and for good reason as he is an animal.
    damn liniker said he'll fight him and zbabit said he was down, but Sean Shelby doesn't like it . That be a great fight.

    Would dang sure be intruiging considering the height/reach difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO
    Just saw the news. Wonder if the UFC will cut him again, and who steps in for Yair on two weeks notice. No one wants to fight Zabit, and for good reason as he is an animal.
    damn liniker said he'll fight him and zbabit said he was down, but Sean Shelby doesn't like it . That be a great fight.

    Would dang sure be intruiging considering the height/reach difference

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO
    Just saw the news. Wonder if the UFC will cut him again, and who steps in for Yair on two weeks notice. No one wants to fight Zabit, and for good reason as he is an animal.
    damn liniker said he'll fight him and zbabit said he was down, but Sean Shelby doesn't like it . That be a great fight.

    Huge fan of both guys btw and would love to see it but I can see why they don't wanna make this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaState:

    Some beach!! Yair is out! Losing this fight is a big hit to this card. PPV numbers will drop IMO
    Just saw the news. Wonder if the UFC will cut him again, and who steps in for Yair on two weeks notice. No one wants to fight Zabit, and for good reason as he is an animal.
    damn liniker said he'll fight him and zbabit said he was down, but Sean Shelby doesn't like it . That be a great fight.

    Huge fan of both guys btw and would love to see it but I can see why they don't wanna make this fight.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2018 - 7:10 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    Till as a dog, biiiiiiiiig


    agreed. good value there. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    Till as a dog, biiiiiiiiig


    agreed. good value there. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2018 - 4:05 PM ET #18

    Filling in for Yair Rodriguez is Brandon Davis who is coming off a loss to Enrique Barzola.
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    Filling in for Yair Rodriguez is Brandon Davis who is coming off a loss to Enrique Barzola.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2018 - 1:50 PM ET #19

    Some interesting matchups in this card. Andrade against another technical striker, Niko Price after that last Tko he got, Suarez ( I'm all on that hype train) , Jimmie after that vicious ko, then Till against the most Woodley . Can't wait. 

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    Some interesting matchups in this card. Andrade against another technical striker, Niko Price after that last Tko he got, Suarez ( I'm all on that hype train) , Jimmie after that vicious ko, then Till against the most Woodley . Can't wait. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    Some interesting matchups in this card. Andrade against another technical striker, Niko Price after that last Tko he got, Suarez ( I'm all on that hype train) , Jimmie after that vicious ko, then Till against the most Woodley . Can't wait. 


    Interesting that Price is a dog again. Suarez is the real deal. Jimmie Rivera should bounce back, but that loss was shocking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    Some interesting matchups in this card. Andrade against another technical striker, Niko Price after that last Tko he got, Suarez ( I'm all on that hype train) , Jimmie after that vicious ko, then Till against the most Woodley . Can't wait. 


    Interesting that Price is a dog again. Suarez is the real deal. Jimmie Rivera should bounce back, but that loss was shocking.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2018 - 4:07 PM ET #21

    Looks like Jarred Brooks will be the late replacement for the injured Ryan Benoit vs Roberto Sanchez.
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    Looks like Jarred Brooks will be the late replacement for the injured Ryan Benoit vs Roberto Sanchez.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2018 - 11:25 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Looks like Jarred Brooks will be the late replacement for the injured Ryan Benoit vs Roberto Sanchez.
    he should come out hard after knocking himself out last fight lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Looks like Jarred Brooks will be the late replacement for the injured Ryan Benoit vs Roberto Sanchez.
    he should come out hard after knocking himself out last fight lol

     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2018 - 11:34 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    Some interesting matchups in this card. Andrade against another technical striker, Niko Price after that last Tko he got, Suarez ( I'm all on that hype train) , Jimmie after that vicious ko, then Till against the most Woodley . Can't wait. 
    Interesting that Price is a dog again. Suarez is the real deal. Jimmie Rivera should bounce back, but that loss was shocking.
    tbh don't knowuch about other guy, but he's been a dog in most of his fights still flying under radar a bit. As long as her striking keeps coming along think Suarez is the next champ. just guessed wrong checked low kicked landed flushed but was crazy watching, agree but just feel like Dodson gonna jab and backpaddle though can see jimme having to chase . 

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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    Some interesting matchups in this card. Andrade against another technical striker, Niko Price after that last Tko he got, Suarez ( I'm all on that hype train) , Jimmie after that vicious ko, then Till against the most Woodley . Can't wait. 
    Interesting that Price is a dog again. Suarez is the real deal. Jimmie Rivera should bounce back, but that loss was shocking.
    tbh don't knowuch about other guy, but he's been a dog in most of his fights still flying under radar a bit. As long as her striking keeps coming along think Suarez is the next champ. just guessed wrong checked low kicked landed flushed but was crazy watching, agree but just feel like Dodson gonna jab and backpaddle though can see jimme having to chase . 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2018 - 10:42 PM ET #24

    Hard to find something to bet here. Shev and Zabit smoke their opponents. Suarez and Andrade will ragdoll Esparza and group. Maybe I’ll just parlay these 4 and swallow the reduced juice. Just can’t see any of them losing. Esparza and group are good fighters fighting against the 2 women in their divisions who are the worst matchups style wise imaginable. Feel sorry for them. 

    Main event is sooo tough to call. 
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    Hard to find something to bet here. Shev and Zabit smoke their opponents. Suarez and Andrade will ragdoll Esparza and group. Maybe I’ll just parlay these 4 and swallow the reduced juice. Just can’t see any of them losing. Esparza and group are good fighters fighting against the 2 women in their divisions who are the worst matchups style wise imaginable. Feel sorry for them. 

    Main event is sooo tough to call. 
     
     
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    GOtta love how K K K gets translated as “Group”. 
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    GOtta love how K K K gets translated as “Group”. 
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