DC is one of my favorite fighters in the UFC. Love him as a fighter, commentator, analyst. But, the value for this prop is too good to pass. I understand DC has only ever lost to Jones, and DC is definitely a better fighter than Volkan, but 8/1 that Volkan finishes DC in the 1st is just an absurd price, especially after how DC/Jones 2 finished. This is a very weird spot for DC to come in as defending champion after being KO'd his last fight. Don't know where his head will be at and I believe he could very well get caught again. DC loves to clinch and that's where Volkan has made his money in his past two fights. I can see a heavy elbow in the clinch ending this fight in the 1st round.
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Oezdemir Wins in Round 1 +800 (1 Unit)
DC is one of my favorite fighters in the UFC. Love him as a fighter, commentator, analyst. But, the value for this prop is too good to pass. I understand DC has only ever lost to Jones, and DC is definitely a better fighter than Volkan, but 8/1 that Volkan finishes DC in the 1st is just an absurd price, especially after how DC/Jones 2 finished. This is a very weird spot for DC to come in as defending champion after being KO'd his last fight. Don't know where his head will be at and I believe he could very well get caught again. DC loves to clinch and that's where Volkan has made his money in his past two fights. I can see a heavy elbow in the clinch ending this fight in the 1st round.
he did not. numbers don't lie. it went back to never been knocked out, no contest means fight didnt happen. you think ozdemir would ko bones? in 1 round? i think cormier lays on him until he can elbow or submit his way to victory
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
He still got knocked out, did he not?
he did not. numbers don't lie. it went back to never been knocked out, no contest means fight didnt happen. you think ozdemir would ko bones? in 1 round? i think cormier lays on him until he can elbow or submit his way to victory
he did not. numbers don't lie. it went back to never been knocked out, no contest means fight didnt happen. you think ozdemir would ko bones? in 1 round? i think cormier lays on him until he can elbow or submit his way to victory
I saw and I'm sure if you were watching that you saw with your own eyes that Cormier got the shitt beaten out of him and got knocked out regardless of the no contest. The event still occurred and DC had never been knocked out before. Something changes in fighters after they suffer their first KO loss. It doesn't take a rocket science to figure out that he won't be the same fighter.
And no, I don't think Oezdemir would KO Jones. Why does that have anything to do with this fight? Jones has never been knocked out, like DC just was. If you don't think something changed with him after that KO, you don't understand the fight game.
Could DC win? Obviously. He is one of the best fighters ever, but I just saw value in Oezdemir winning in the 1st at +800. It got bet all the way down to +575, so it was clearly a good value bet regardless of the outcome. You can lay the -340 or whatever it is with Cormier, but there is no way he's 77% to win this fight.
Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:
he did not. numbers don't lie. it went back to never been knocked out, no contest means fight didnt happen. you think ozdemir would ko bones? in 1 round? i think cormier lays on him until he can elbow or submit his way to victory
I saw and I'm sure if you were watching that you saw with your own eyes that Cormier got the shitt beaten out of him and got knocked out regardless of the no contest. The event still occurred and DC had never been knocked out before. Something changes in fighters after they suffer their first KO loss. It doesn't take a rocket science to figure out that he won't be the same fighter.
And no, I don't think Oezdemir would KO Jones. Why does that have anything to do with this fight? Jones has never been knocked out, like DC just was. If you don't think something changed with him after that KO, you don't understand the fight game.
Could DC win? Obviously. He is one of the best fighters ever, but I just saw value in Oezdemir winning in the 1st at +800. It got bet all the way down to +575, so it was clearly a good value bet regardless of the outcome. You can lay the -340 or whatever it is with Cormier, but there is no way he's 77% to win this fight.
I saw and I'm sure if you were watching that you saw with your own eyes that Cormier got the shitt beaten out of him and got knocked out regardless of the no contest. The event still occurred and DC had never been knocked out before. Something changes in fighters after they suffer their first KO loss. It doesn't take a rocket science to figure out that he won't be the same fighter.
And no, I don't think Oezdemir would KO Jones. Why does that have anything to do with this fight? Jones has never been knocked out, like DC just was. If you don't think something changed with him after that KO, you don't understand the fight game.
Could DC win? Obviously. He is one of the best fighters ever, but I just saw value in Oezdemir winning in the 1st at +800. It got bet all the way down to +575, so it was clearly a good value bet regardless of the outcome. You can lay the -340 or whatever it is with Cormier, but there is no way he's 77% to win this fight.
Remember though, before getting knocked out (and yes, i know that's really all that matters in the end), DC was winning that fight and looked really impressive. Yes he got knocked out, but I wouldn't say he got the garbage beaten out of him, unless we were watching 2 different fights.
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
I saw and I'm sure if you were watching that you saw with your own eyes that Cormier got the shitt beaten out of him and got knocked out regardless of the no contest. The event still occurred and DC had never been knocked out before. Something changes in fighters after they suffer their first KO loss. It doesn't take a rocket science to figure out that he won't be the same fighter.
And no, I don't think Oezdemir would KO Jones. Why does that have anything to do with this fight? Jones has never been knocked out, like DC just was. If you don't think something changed with him after that KO, you don't understand the fight game.
Could DC win? Obviously. He is one of the best fighters ever, but I just saw value in Oezdemir winning in the 1st at +800. It got bet all the way down to +575, so it was clearly a good value bet regardless of the outcome. You can lay the -340 or whatever it is with Cormier, but there is no way he's 77% to win this fight.
Remember though, before getting knocked out (and yes, i know that's really all that matters in the end), DC was winning that fight and looked really impressive. Yes he got knocked out, but I wouldn't say he got the garbage beaten out of him, unless we were watching 2 different fights.
Cannot believe how many people think Oozdemir has a good shot to win this fight. He knocked out Manuwa and Cirkunov. Big friggin deal. Manuwa has zero chin and Misha just got run over by Glover. Oozdemir lost to OSP and was given a gift. Volkan is about to jump up 3 levels here. If Rumble cant get you outta there early, neither is Volkan. DC will take VO down and pound on him for 5 rounds or until he ultimately gives up. This is a mismatch. Volkan isnt stopping DC's wrestling. No man besides roided Jones ever has. VO aint Jon friggin Jones.
Cannot believe how many people think Oozdemir has a good shot to win this fight. He knocked out Manuwa and Cirkunov. Big friggin deal. Manuwa has zero chin and Misha just got run over by Glover. Oozdemir lost to OSP and was given a gift. Volkan is about to jump up 3 levels here. If Rumble cant get you outta there early, neither is Volkan. DC will take VO down and pound on him for 5 rounds or until he ultimately gives up. This is a mismatch. Volkan isnt stopping DC's wrestling. No man besides roided Jones ever has. VO aint Jon friggin Jones.
Cannot believe how many people think Oozdemir has a good shot to win this fight. He knocked out Manuwa and Cirkunov. Big friggin deal. Manuwa has zero chin and Misha just got run over by Glover. Oozdemir lost to OSP and was given a gift. Volkan is about to jump up 3 levels here. If Rumble cant get you outta there early, neither is Volkan. DC will take VO down and pound on him for 5 rounds or until he ultimately gives up. This is a mismatch. Volkan isnt stopping DC's wrestling. No man besides roided Jones ever has. VO aint Jon friggin Jones.
Okay, we'll see. If it's SUCH a mismatch, why is Cormier only ~ -350? Why isn't he at least -500? Please explain.
Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:
Cannot believe how many people think Oozdemir has a good shot to win this fight. He knocked out Manuwa and Cirkunov. Big friggin deal. Manuwa has zero chin and Misha just got run over by Glover. Oozdemir lost to OSP and was given a gift. Volkan is about to jump up 3 levels here. If Rumble cant get you outta there early, neither is Volkan. DC will take VO down and pound on him for 5 rounds or until he ultimately gives up. This is a mismatch. Volkan isnt stopping DC's wrestling. No man besides roided Jones ever has. VO aint Jon friggin Jones.
Okay, we'll see. If it's SUCH a mismatch, why is Cormier only ~ -350? Why isn't he at least -500? Please explain.
shango, dont risk the burgos money man...... kattar is the better fighter, with more power........ take calvin to knock him out in any round...... they are throwing haymakers the boston crowd will be nuts!
Kattar is not the better fighter and definitely does not have more power, but BOL.
Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8:
shango, dont risk the burgos money man...... kattar is the better fighter, with more power........ take calvin to knock him out in any round...... they are throwing haymakers the boston crowd will be nuts!
Kattar is not the better fighter and definitely does not have more power, but BOL.
Remember though, before getting knocked out (and yes, i know that's really all that matters in the end), DC was winning that fight and looked really impressive. Yes he got knocked out, but I wouldn't say he got the garbage beaten out of him, unless we were watching 2 different fights.
Yes, Cormier looked good in the beginning, but ultimately he got his asss kicked. Again, I don't care how he looked in that fight. It ended in a pretty brutal TKO. Has a champion ever defended a title immediately suffering a brutal TKO? I can't remember this weird situation ever happening.
Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:
Remember though, before getting knocked out (and yes, i know that's really all that matters in the end), DC was winning that fight and looked really impressive. Yes he got knocked out, but I wouldn't say he got the garbage beaten out of him, unless we were watching 2 different fights.
Yes, Cormier looked good in the beginning, but ultimately he got his asss kicked. Again, I don't care how he looked in that fight. It ended in a pretty brutal TKO. Has a champion ever defended a title immediately suffering a brutal TKO? I can't remember this weird situation ever happening.
-350 IS a large favorite in MMA. This isn’t boxing where guys are -4000 in title fights like Errol Spence. Cormier is the biggest favorite on this entire UFC card.
-350 IS a large favorite in MMA. This isn’t boxing where guys are -4000 in title fights like Errol Spence. Cormier is the biggest favorite on this entire UFC card.
How can you not say that? When's the last time Kattar has KO'd anybody? Burgos is the bigger fighter with more power. He's shown it in every fight. Kattar has 7 straight decisions. How can you possibly think he has more power? Burgos has so many advantages in this fight, the biggest one being a 3.5 inch reach advantage. I get that he Kattar has the same last name as you, but you clearly don't know Burgos and are betting with your heart over your head. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8:
still not sure how you can say that?
How can you not say that? When's the last time Kattar has KO'd anybody? Burgos is the bigger fighter with more power. He's shown it in every fight. Kattar has 7 straight decisions. How can you possibly think he has more power? Burgos has so many advantages in this fight, the biggest one being a 3.5 inch reach advantage. I get that he Kattar has the same last name as you, but you clearly don't know Burgos and are betting with your heart over your head. Don't say I didn't warn you.
-350 IS a large favorite in MMA. This isn’t boxing where guys are -4000 in title fights like Errol Spence. Cormier is the biggest favorite on this entire UFC card.
If it is SUCH a mismatch like you assume it will be then he should be higher than -350.
Are you laying -350 with Cormier?
Nick Kalakis, lead MMA oddsmaker for 5dimes said it is insane to lay that chalk in this fight.
Again, if you read my first post, I think Cormier is clearly the better fighter, and has more ways to win, but the circumstances and other angles play a huge factor in this fight. And I just don't think DC is taking this as seriously as he should, while also having in the back of his head that he was just TKOd.
Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:
-350 IS a large favorite in MMA. This isn’t boxing where guys are -4000 in title fights like Errol Spence. Cormier is the biggest favorite on this entire UFC card.
If it is SUCH a mismatch like you assume it will be then he should be higher than -350.
Are you laying -350 with Cormier?
Nick Kalakis, lead MMA oddsmaker for 5dimes said it is insane to lay that chalk in this fight.
Again, if you read my first post, I think Cormier is clearly the better fighter, and has more ways to win, but the circumstances and other angles play a huge factor in this fight. And I just don't think DC is taking this as seriously as he should, while also having in the back of his head that he was just TKOd.
If it is SUCH a mismatch like you assume it will be then he should be higher than -350.
Are you laying -350 with Cormier?
Nick Kalakis, lead MMA oddsmaker for 5dimes said it is insane to lay that chalk in this fight.
Again, if you read my first post, I think Cormier is clearly the better fighter, and has more ways to win, but the circumstances and other angles play a huge factor in this fight. And I just don't think DC is taking this as seriously as he should, while also having in the back of his head that he was just TKOd.
Parlay.
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
If it is SUCH a mismatch like you assume it will be then he should be higher than -350.
Are you laying -350 with Cormier?
Nick Kalakis, lead MMA oddsmaker for 5dimes said it is insane to lay that chalk in this fight.
Again, if you read my first post, I think Cormier is clearly the better fighter, and has more ways to win, but the circumstances and other angles play a huge factor in this fight. And I just don't think DC is taking this as seriously as he should, while also having in the back of his head that he was just TKOd.
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