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    SHEVCHENKO vs. NUNES: It took a lot for me to make this bet, but what's done is done

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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 2:11 AM ET #1

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    The pick:

    Valentina SHEVCHENKO -105 over Amanda NUNES

    I am a big fan of Nunes and she paid me off in the biggest of big ways against Rousey.

    Having said that, I am taking her to lose a VERY close fight to Shevchenko tonight.

    The reasons:

    1. Revenge - Obvious. It's much tougher to beat the same opponent twice in a row.

    2. The 5 Rounds - The first fight was 3 rounds. This is tailor made for a Shevchenko victory if she lasts the 5 rounds. The gameplan is clear: Let Nunes punch herself out in rounds 1 and 2 and go to work in 3, 4, and 5. 

    1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1. Those are the number of rounds Nunes has gone in the last 8. The longer this goes, the worse it gets for Nunes.

    3. Holly Holm - Shevchenko had a nice lead in fight here going 5 rounds with a heavy striker (but inferior), like Nunes in Holm, and then had a more technical fight against Pena. She's won 7 of her last 8, her only loss being to Nunes. I like the priming she's had. The same can't be said for Nunes who's only test in the past half year came against Rousey In a fight she was ready to lose from the sound of the bell. Before that it was Tate and Tate is not Shevchenko.

    4. The defense - I love the way Shevchenko handled Nunes in the first fight and kept the powerful striker at bay early in the fight. I also loved her in the clinch as well. For all the pounding Nunes gave Valentina, she kept coming back and even escaped a rear naked choke.

    Nunes tried everything and although she wasn't saved by the bell, if there were two more rounds, like there are here, it would have been a different outcome.

    5. Shevchenko's desire - Hungrier, training at altitude in Denver, building to this her entire life. To me more focused. If she overcomes an early and ferocious pounding (which she has to be game planning for), she will win. 

    It will be close but I agree with Papa on this one. Valentina at the buzzer. I love Nunes but my money says otherwise.
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    34-34

    The pick:

    Valentina SHEVCHENKO -105 over Amanda NUNES

    I am a big fan of Nunes and she paid me off in the biggest of big ways against Rousey.

    Having said that, I am taking her to lose a VERY close fight to Shevchenko tonight.

    The reasons:

    1. Revenge - Obvious. It's much tougher to beat the same opponent twice in a row.

    2. The 5 Rounds - The first fight was 3 rounds. This is tailor made for a Shevchenko victory if she lasts the 5 rounds. The gameplan is clear: Let Nunes punch herself out in rounds 1 and 2 and go to work in 3, 4, and 5. 

    1,1,3,1,1,3,1,1. Those are the number of rounds Nunes has gone in the last 8. The longer this goes, the worse it gets for Nunes.

    3. Holly Holm - Shevchenko had a nice lead in fight here going 5 rounds with a heavy striker (but inferior), like Nunes in Holm, and then had a more technical fight against Pena. She's won 7 of her last 8, her only loss being to Nunes. I like the priming she's had. The same can't be said for Nunes who's only test in the past half year came against Rousey In a fight she was ready to lose from the sound of the bell. Before that it was Tate and Tate is not Shevchenko.

    4. The defense - I love the way Shevchenko handled Nunes in the first fight and kept the powerful striker at bay early in the fight. I also loved her in the clinch as well. For all the pounding Nunes gave Valentina, she kept coming back and even escaped a rear naked choke.

    Nunes tried everything and although she wasn't saved by the bell, if there were two more rounds, like there are here, it would have been a different outcome.

    5. Shevchenko's desire - Hungrier, training at altitude in Denver, building to this her entire life. To me more focused. If she overcomes an early and ferocious pounding (which she has to be game planning for), she will win. 

    It will be close but I agree with Papa on this one. Valentina at the buzzer. I love Nunes but my money says otherwise.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 3:18 AM ET #2

    Good luck, Scal.  For some reason I believe Shevchenko knocks Nunes out in the 1st round.  No real reason, just a hunch.  
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    Good luck, Scal.  For some reason I believe Shevchenko knocks Nunes out in the 1st round.  No real reason, just a hunch.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 8:27 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

    Good luck, Scal.  For some reason I believe Shevchenko knocks Nunes out in the 1st round.  No real reason, just a hunch.  

    Well if that happens I'll tail you on every UFC pick until eternity if you're right on that.

    +675 ib 5 Dimes that she wins in Round 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

    Good luck, Scal.  For some reason I believe Shevchenko knocks Nunes out in the 1st round.  No real reason, just a hunch.  

    Well if that happens I'll tail you on every UFC pick until eternity if you're right on that.

    +675 ib 5 Dimes that she wins in Round 1.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 8:29 AM ET #4

    Where are Mickey Gall and Sage Northcutt btw? I haven't seen them since Gall's win, or even heard about them.
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    Where are Mickey Gall and Sage Northcutt btw? I haven't seen them since Gall's win, or even heard about them.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 9:26 AM ET #5

    One of the rare times where we ride together...    
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    One of the rare times where we ride together...    
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 10:11 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    One of the rare times where we ride together...    

    Let's see her get it done. As soon as Nones beat Rousey I wanted this fight. 5 rounds. If she can't win under these conditions, she never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    One of the rare times where we ride together...    

    Let's see her get it done. As soon as Nones beat Rousey I wanted this fight. 5 rounds. If she can't win under these conditions, she never will.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 12:55 PM ET #7

    I like it....
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    I like it....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 1:13 PM ET #8

    Scale I'm rocking w Shevchenko myself...thoughts on the round? I don't see it go ing 5. I'm thinking Shevchenko in the 4th
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    Scale I'm rocking w Shevchenko myself...thoughts on the round? I don't see it go ing 5. I'm thinking Shevchenko in the 4th
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 1:31 PM ET #9

    Lawrence, 4 would be in line with the O/U 2.5 if you like Valentina.
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 1:37 PM ET #10

    the line movement in this fight has been all over the place.....are you worried about todays movement from -120 to -105?
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    the line movement in this fight has been all over the place.....are you worried about todays movement from -120 to -105?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 3:26 PM ET #11

    Funny, it's off the board on my site...
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 3:29 PM ET #12

    Nunes just pulled out of the fight.....WOW WOW WOW
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardly covers:

    Funny, it's off the board on my site...

    Nunes pulled out of the fight. Said she was feeling ill all week (didn't see that on the UFC video vlogs they've been releasing of her.

    VERY DISAPPOINTED. Big money making opportunity lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardly covers:

    Funny, it's off the board on my site...

    Nunes pulled out of the fight. Said she was feeling ill all week (didn't see that on the UFC video vlogs they've been releasing of her.

    VERY DISAPPOINTED. Big money making opportunity lost.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    Nunes just pulled out of the fight.....WOW WOW WOW

    All that capping. Hours and hours of watching all their fights. Wasted!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    Nunes just pulled out of the fight.....WOW WOW WOW

    All that capping. Hours and hours of watching all their fights. Wasted!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 3:31 PM ET #15

    Yikes. Mines got pulled for medical reasons. There goes the wager I've waited for, for over a month

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    Yikes. Mines got pulled for medical reasons. There goes the wager I've waited for, for over a month

     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 3:34 PM ET #16

    Nunes looked fine at the weigh-in and was dropping weight on the UFC vlog , looking normal while she was in bodysuit sweating off pounds.

    Reminds me of Tyson Fury pulling out of the Klitchko fight, another one at even odds and another bet I had Klitchko winning while being very confident in capping it.


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    Nunes looked fine at the weigh-in and was dropping weight on the UFC vlog , looking normal while she was in bodysuit sweating off pounds.

    Reminds me of Tyson Fury pulling out of the Klitchko fight, another one at even odds and another bet I had Klitchko winning while being very confident in capping it.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 3:37 PM ET #17

    Thanks for the hard work as usual Scal. Will be lurking around for your posts until football.
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    Thanks for the hard work as usual Scal. Will be lurking around for your posts until football.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 3:54 PM ET #18

    Fight off. Nunes was reportedly ill all week.

    That being said, I liked the pick, Scal. Glad to see you getting into MMA.

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    Fight off. Nunes was reportedly ill all week.

    That being said, I liked the pick, Scal. Glad to see you getting into MMA.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 4:02 PM ET #19

    Scale thoughts on Romero/Whittaker?
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    ughhh, that TOTALLY sucks. I heard the doctors actually cleared her to fight but she told Dana she wasn't feeling good still. Word on the street is that Joanna Champion is working with Dana to actually fight Shevchenko tonight. My GOD please make this happen!
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    ughhh, that TOTALLY sucks. I heard the doctors actually cleared her to fight but she told Dana she wasn't feeling good still. Word on the street is that Joanna Champion is working with Dana to actually fight Shevchenko tonight. My GOD please make this happen!
     
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    Dropping out of the ME because you don't feel well. Wow. Times sure have changed. 

    However. Great write up again from the King of Writeups. 
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    Dropping out of the ME because you don't feel well. Wow. Times sure have changed. 

    However. Great write up again from the King of Writeups. 
     
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    Hardly JD Vit - Appreciate it. Sucks to wait 7 MONTHS for this and have it called off. Fortunately, that can't happen in the NBA/NFL/CFB (except for of course, major injuries which still have an angle all their own).

    Money - I don't think she can fight. What's to be gained? Lose, get injured. Whoever fights hare has all the advantage.
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    Hardly JD Vit - Appreciate it. Sucks to wait 7 MONTHS for this and have it called off. Fortunately, that can't happen in the NBA/NFL/CFB (except for of course, major injuries which still have an angle all their own).

    Money - I don't think she can fight. What's to be gained? Lose, get injured. Whoever fights hare has all the advantage.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 5:27 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence401:

    Scale thoughts on Romero/Whittaker?

    Sorry no. Papa probably does though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence401:

    Scale thoughts on Romero/Whittaker?

    Sorry no. Papa probably does though.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 5:30 PM ET #24

    They were both down to do it apparently, but the commission wouldn't allow it since there wasn't enough time to clear her medicals. Would have been an awesome last minute switch though. I thought they did something similar a few months back when Khabib pulled out and Michael Johnson was going to step up and take the fight but Ferguson declined. Not sure how that would have worked either. The UFC really needs to have some backup plans for some of these situations because it's not fair to those that bought PPV tickets or ordered the event. Happens way more often than it should. I pray that nothing happens with UFC 214 because that card is stacked
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    They were both down to do it apparently, but the commission wouldn't allow it since there wasn't enough time to clear her medicals. Would have been an awesome last minute switch though. I thought they did something similar a few months back when Khabib pulled out and Michael Johnson was going to step up and take the fight but Ferguson declined. Not sure how that would have worked either. The UFC really needs to have some backup plans for some of these situations because it's not fair to those that bought PPV tickets or ordered the event. Happens way more often than it should. I pray that nothing happens with UFC 214 because that card is stacked
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2017 - 5:43 PM ET #25

    This sucks...  been waiting for either Shevchenko or Magny to fight forever and now it's gonna be even longer
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    This sucks...  been waiting for either Shevchenko or Magny to fight forever and now it's gonna be even longer
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