Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:
I don't think Diaz is overrated but I think his level of competition is. If you ask me I'll take
I've already said I think Condit can take Diaz down and will use a variety of attacks on Diaz. I think his stamina is better than the past few opponents of Diaz.
Lets see Condit's last 5 opponents Kim, Hardy, MacDonald, Ellenberger, Kampman
Diaz last 5 opponents Penn, Daley, Santos, Noons, Sakurai.
I don't know about you but I'm more impressed by Condit's resume. You can talk about the Penn/Daley fight all you want but everyone knows Penn's gas tank it limited and his best weight is 155. And Daley he's not very versatile although the way Diaz beat him was quite impressive.
And your reasoning that people "hate" Diaz that's why they discredit him is not true. I love Diaz...he's one of my favorite fights. I'm just not going to ride his nuts and pretend he's some kind of juggernaut.
It is a valid point that his level of competition hasn't been as high, he has been stuck in SF since Dana didn't want him back in the UFC. So he had to fight who he had to fight.
But lets all be honest, we all believe this is going to be mostly a standup fight.
So lets see who has seen the better stand up fighters.
Diaz:Penn- Say what you will, he is still a technical boxer and a crafty vet. People never want to say Penn gassed out fast because of the pressure Diaz put on him. Hard to breath with 5 punch combos coming at you.
Daley- Many said the best or at least most explosive striker at WW when he was in the UFC. Obviously 1 dimensional, but Diaz didn't even look to take the easy submission. He beat him standing.
Noons- Again say what you will but they guy has pro boxing and kickboxing experience and has a good record in both. He is a solid striker.
Zaromskis- I'm not going to act like he is world class. But he is a talented kickboxer and Diaz stopped him in 1 round.
Lawler- A KO specialist. Way bigger than Diaz. Diaz took shots and KO'd Robbie with a clean 1 punch. STILL the only time Robbie has ever been KO'd or TKO'd.
Who has Condit faced as of late?Kim- Not a striker. Was impressive that he swept him from bottom. But he flying knee'd an average fighter who is a grappler.
Hardy- He is hot garbage. Never was as good of a striker as the UFC made him out to be to promote that ridiculous title shot. At least it was a nice KO.
Rory- I realize Rory is a great prospect. But he is not a striker. Condit had his ass handed to him for most all the fight. Credit him for surviving the onslaught from the 20 year old kid.
Ellenberger- Is not a striker. He has power. But he is not a striker.
Kampmann- The best striker he has fought in the UFC. Actually EVER. And he lost. To give Condit credit it was by split. But he lost.
So who really has seen the better opponents?
I mean unless you really believe Condit can win with wrestling. I myself think Diaz has better wrestling. But there really isn't any advantage. If Condit does happen to take him down, Diaz is the better BJJ grappler. I'm not sure the last time Condit even used wrestling. I highly doubt he can smother Diaz. That is basically the only way Diaz has lost fights.
So in my opinion I think Diaz has fought the much better strikers. And even though he could have sub'd half of them...he chose to stand and bang it out...and he won all of them besides Noons cutting him up. And I think this is a standup fight. If it isn't I will be disappointed because I a, really excited for this fight.