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    Bellator 135 + WSOF 19 + UFC FN 63

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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 5:25 PM ET #1

    76-74 +10.1

    Warren -170 over Galvao 1.7 to win 1
    Davis/Tokoro O2.5 -130 1.3 to win 1
    Couture -130 over Cochrane 1.3 to win 1
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    76-74 +10.1

    Warren -170 over Galvao 1.7 to win 1
    Davis/Tokoro O2.5 -130 1.3 to win 1
    Couture -130 over Cochrane 1.3 to win 1
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 5:51 PM ET #2

    good luck O!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    good luck O!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 6:14 PM ET #3

    how did i miss this over play???gezz idk i just dont like person fighters and think they all get KO'ed lol
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    how did i miss this over play???gezz idk i just dont like person fighters and think they all get KO'ed lol
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 7:11 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    good luck O!!!!!!!!!!!!


    U2 buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    good luck O!!!!!!!!!!!!


    U2 buddy
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 7:59 PM ET #5

    BOL O!!! 
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    BOL O!!! 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 11:45 PM ET #6

    78-75 +10.4

    Warren should be very happy Big John stopped that. That knee bar was deep and tight and Joe was doing nothing to defend. Had it not been stopped, Warren wouldn't be training/walking right until after surgery. Galvao hadn't even started to apply hip pressure forward, which could've ruined his night.

    Davis and Tokoro was worth the price of admission. Great fight.
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    78-75 +10.4

    Warren should be very happy Big John stopped that. That knee bar was deep and tight and Joe was doing nothing to defend. Had it not been stopped, Warren wouldn't be training/walking right until after surgery. Galvao hadn't even started to apply hip pressure forward, which could've ruined his night.

    Davis and Tokoro was worth the price of admission. Great fight.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 10:36 AM ET #7

    Gaethje ITD -180 1.8 to win 1
    Silva ITD -150 1.5 to win 1
    Holder over Heun -110 1.1 to win 1
    Valiev by decision -120 1.2 to win 1
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    Gaethje ITD -180 1.8 to win 1
    Silva ITD -150 1.5 to win 1
    Holder over Heun -110 1.1 to win 1
    Valiev by decision -120 1.2 to win 1
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 6:54 PM ET #8

    I'm tailin the Gaethje ITD - Good luck
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    I'm tailin the Gaethje ITD - Good luck
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 7:11 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by sawman:

    I'm tailin the Gaethje ITD - Good luck


    You too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sawman:

    I'm tailin the Gaethje ITD - Good luck


    You too!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 7:42 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by MR219:

    BOL O!!!
    thanks man - you too
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR219:

    BOL O!!!
    thanks man - you too
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2015 - 9:38 PM ET #11

    That is absolutely unbelievable how WSOF changed the fights due to Hamil illness.
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    That is absolutely unbelievable how WSOF changed the fights due to Hamil illness.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2015 - 11:08 AM ET #12

    79-76 +10.2
    Great card last night. Back later with UFC leans, picks for next week. That was crazy how WSOF handled that entire situation. OTOH, Holder looked good and took some nasty shots from Silva.
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    79-76 +10.2
    Great card last night. Back later with UFC leans, picks for next week. That was crazy how WSOF handled that entire situation. OTOH, Holder looked good and took some nasty shots from Silva.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2015 - 12:08 PM ET #13

    Nice call on Gaethje
    That luneup change blew up in their face. Now one if their stars is 0-1
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    Nice call on Gaethje
    That luneup change blew up in their face. Now one if their stars is 0-1
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 6:45 PM ET #14

    Waiting on the UFC leans!!!! This card puzzles me.
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    Waiting on the UFC leans!!!! This card puzzles me.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 11:14 PM ET #15

    These are all the angles I'm looking at (it's every single fight on the card):

    Lamas +350, Lamas by decision +630, fight goes to decision -120
    There's a lot of Mendes love on the interwebs, but I think Lamas has a bit of a pure kickboxing and speed edge here. I think they're both good wrestlers with great guillotine chokes so we don't see a lot of ground work in this one. If Chad is able to wall grind, that's the best chance of winning IMO.

    Masvidal -135 over Iaquinta
    Jorge has always been very underrated and is very tricky. He's extremely solid everywhere and I think he grinds out a decision or subs him.

    Chiesa Inside distance +140, Chiesa by sub +160, fight doesn't go to distance -110
    Just based on those lines, the last one has to be the most appealing. This has the potential to be a great grappling battle, I can't wait.

    Pena ITD +175, Pena by sub +350, fight doesn't go to distance +120
    Odd lines. On paper, Pena should be able to take her down, mount her, open her up with punches, and finish her with a sub or punches. Pretty easily.

    Guida by decision +110, Guida by sub +375
    It's between one of those 2, but probably a small one on the sub. Robbie is not that great and Clay has something to prove. Since his win against Pettis, he's went from fan favorite to a punch line. Why? He's been lined up with spectacular grapplers (Bendo, Gray, Hioki, Mendes, Kawajiri, Bermudez). This is a much better fight for him.

    Poirier over Ferreira -185, Poirier ITD +165
    At the end of the day, Dustin has still only lost to top 5 guys - McGregor, Swanson, Korean Zombie. I don't think CDF is there yet. I think this fight is just to get dustin back on the train.

    Murphy -105 over Carmouche
    Hardest fight to call because I don't care.

    Yakovlev -125 over Maynard, Yakovlev ITD +190, Yakovlev by TKO +300
    Lots of these old guard fighters are clinging to life and some are getting embarrassed by newbs. I hope I'm wrong but I bet I'm not.

    Shamil ITD +120 Timmay
    I probably won't be playing this, tbh. Lately, I've just been assuming that hard hitting sluggers that are better than their opponents will eventually wear them down and finish. That's what should happen here, but I want to see these guys debut first.

    Jones -130 over Stallings, jones ITD +150, fight won't start round 3 -125
    Both these guys were late replacement fill-ins vs promising fighters in their debuts (Uriah hall and corey Anderson) and both performed pretty well. I was
    more impressed with Jones and think he wins a mainly stand-up fight here.


    Just to note, I have nearly every fight not going to the scorecards. Also, the only true dog i like is in the main event.
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    These are all the angles I'm looking at (it's every single fight on the card):

    Lamas +350, Lamas by decision +630, fight goes to decision -120
    There's a lot of Mendes love on the interwebs, but I think Lamas has a bit of a pure kickboxing and speed edge here. I think they're both good wrestlers with great guillotine chokes so we don't see a lot of ground work in this one. If Chad is able to wall grind, that's the best chance of winning IMO.

    Masvidal -135 over Iaquinta
    Jorge has always been very underrated and is very tricky. He's extremely solid everywhere and I think he grinds out a decision or subs him.

    Chiesa Inside distance +140, Chiesa by sub +160, fight doesn't go to distance -110
    Just based on those lines, the last one has to be the most appealing. This has the potential to be a great grappling battle, I can't wait.

    Pena ITD +175, Pena by sub +350, fight doesn't go to distance +120
    Odd lines. On paper, Pena should be able to take her down, mount her, open her up with punches, and finish her with a sub or punches. Pretty easily.

    Guida by decision +110, Guida by sub +375
    It's between one of those 2, but probably a small one on the sub. Robbie is not that great and Clay has something to prove. Since his win against Pettis, he's went from fan favorite to a punch line. Why? He's been lined up with spectacular grapplers (Bendo, Gray, Hioki, Mendes, Kawajiri, Bermudez). This is a much better fight for him.

    Poirier over Ferreira -185, Poirier ITD +165
    At the end of the day, Dustin has still only lost to top 5 guys - McGregor, Swanson, Korean Zombie. I don't think CDF is there yet. I think this fight is just to get dustin back on the train.

    Murphy -105 over Carmouche
    Hardest fight to call because I don't care.

    Yakovlev -125 over Maynard, Yakovlev ITD +190, Yakovlev by TKO +300
    Lots of these old guard fighters are clinging to life and some are getting embarrassed by newbs. I hope I'm wrong but I bet I'm not.

    Shamil ITD +120 Timmay
    I probably won't be playing this, tbh. Lately, I've just been assuming that hard hitting sluggers that are better than their opponents will eventually wear them down and finish. That's what should happen here, but I want to see these guys debut first.

    Jones -130 over Stallings, jones ITD +150, fight won't start round 3 -125
    Both these guys were late replacement fill-ins vs promising fighters in their debuts (Uriah hall and corey Anderson) and both performed pretty well. I was
    more impressed with Jones and think he wins a mainly stand-up fight here.


    Just to note, I have nearly every fight not going to the scorecards. Also, the only true dog i like is in the main event.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 11:20 PM ET #16

    Gosh I can't believe you and I agree about Lamas!!! Heard Guida is with Alpha Male now.
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    Gosh I can't believe you and I agree about Lamas!!! Heard Guida is with Alpha Male now.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 11:32 PM ET #17

    Is it me or is this card funky??? No crazy line moves, a few pick em fights, not much chatter on here. Looks like a bunch of soft plays from me!!!
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    Is it me or is this card funky??? No crazy line moves, a few pick em fights, not much chatter on here. Looks like a bunch of soft plays from me!!!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2015 - 4:32 AM ET #18

    Pretty solid analysis for most fights. Going with Iaquinta and Mendes though. Not playing Mendes SU though, will most likely include him in a parlay with Guida and Chiesa. Mendes should have a wrestling advantage, although it won't be as sizable as he usually has against most of his opponents. Lamas is a little better with his combos and might be a bit faster, but Mendes has more power. Lamas has been KO'd before and I think Mendes can catch him.
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    Pretty solid analysis for most fights. Going with Iaquinta and Mendes though. Not playing Mendes SU though, will most likely include him in a parlay with Guida and Chiesa. Mendes should have a wrestling advantage, although it won't be as sizable as he usually has against most of his opponents. Lamas is a little better with his combos and might be a bit faster, but Mendes has more power. Lamas has been KO'd before and I think Mendes can catch him.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2015 - 4:35 AM ET #19

    This card reminds me of FN 61. A lot of favorites should win, but will they?
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    This card reminds me of FN 61. A lot of favorites should win, but will they?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2015 - 12:37 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Is it me or is this card funky??? No crazy line moves, a few pick em fights, not much chatter on here. Looks like a bunch of soft plays from me!!!


    It seems like a lot of punters get tired this time of year due to March Madness. Plus, this is a pretty weak card. I'll watch a fight between 2 drunk idiots in my local kmart parking lot, but most people want a bit more at stake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Is it me or is this card funky??? No crazy line moves, a few pick em fights, not much chatter on here. Looks like a bunch of soft plays from me!!!


    It seems like a lot of punters get tired this time of year due to March Madness. Plus, this is a pretty weak card. I'll watch a fight between 2 drunk idiots in my local kmart parking lot, but most people want a bit more at stake.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2015 - 12:39 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by str8edgejedi:

    Pretty solid analysis for most fights. Going with Iaquinta and Mendes though. Not playing Mendes SU though, will most likely include him in a parlay with Guida and Chiesa. Mendes should have a wrestling advantage, although it won't be as sizable as he usually has against most of his opponents. Lamas is a little better with his combos and might be a bit faster, but Mendes has more power. Lamas has been KO'd before and I think Mendes can catch him.


    With Lamas, I just think the chances of him winning are higher than the odds suggest. If he was +150 or so, I'd pass for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by str8edgejedi:

    Pretty solid analysis for most fights. Going with Iaquinta and Mendes though. Not playing Mendes SU though, will most likely include him in a parlay with Guida and Chiesa. Mendes should have a wrestling advantage, although it won't be as sizable as he usually has against most of his opponents. Lamas is a little better with his combos and might be a bit faster, but Mendes has more power. Lamas has been KO'd before and I think Mendes can catch him.


    With Lamas, I just think the chances of him winning are higher than the odds suggest. If he was +150 or so, I'd pass for sure.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2015 - 2:28 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:



    It seems like a lot of punters get tired this time of year due to March Madness. Plus, this is a pretty weak card. I'll watch a fight between 2 drunk idiots in my local kmart parking lot, but most people want a bit more at stake.

    both my books that i use for live betting arent even going to offer it for this event
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    It seems like a lot of punters get tired this time of year due to March Madness. Plus, this is a pretty weak card. I'll watch a fight between 2 drunk idiots in my local kmart parking lot, but most people want a bit more at stake.

    both my books that i use for live betting arent even going to offer it for this event
     
    Ferrari29
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    Posted: Apr. 1, 2015 - 4:19 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Is it me or is this card funky??? No crazy line moves, a few pick em fights, not much chatter on here. Looks like a bunch of soft plays from me!!!
    It seems like a lot of punters get tired this time of year due to March Madness. Plus, this is a pretty weak card. I'll watch a fight between 2 drunk idiots in my local kmart parking lot, but most people want a bit more at stake.



    Are them the blue special days??? Boy you can get some nice odds on a scrape over a ceiling fan!!!! Plus the people watching is priceless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Is it me or is this card funky??? No crazy line moves, a few pick em fights, not much chatter on here. Looks like a bunch of soft plays from me!!!
    It seems like a lot of punters get tired this time of year due to March Madness. Plus, this is a pretty weak card. I'll watch a fight between 2 drunk idiots in my local kmart parking lot, but most people want a bit more at stake.



    Are them the blue special days??? Boy you can get some nice odds on a scrape over a ceiling fan!!!! Plus the people watching is priceless.
     
    ctm1985
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2015 - 2:33 PM ET #24

    I agree with you on most of this! I hope we see that ground battle with Chiesa/Clarke, I think either guy is very capable of submitting the other.

    Good luck 
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    I agree with you on most of this! I hope we see that ground battle with Chiesa/Clarke, I think either guy is very capable of submitting the other.

    Good luck 
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 3, 2015 - 6:25 PM ET #25

    79-76 +10.2

    Pena ITD +140 2 to win 2.8
    Chiesa ITD +125 2 to win 2.5
    Jones -130 1.3 to win 1
    Masvidal -110 1.1 to win 1
    Yakovlev/Maynard does not go distance +110 1 to win 1.1
    Lamas +360 .5 to win 1.8

    Good luck y'all.
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    79-76 +10.2

    Pena ITD +140 2 to win 2.8
    Chiesa ITD +125 2 to win 2.5
    Jones -130 1.3 to win 1
    Masvidal -110 1.1 to win 1
    Yakovlev/Maynard does not go distance +110 1 to win 1.1
    Lamas +360 .5 to win 1.8

    Good luck y'all.
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