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    Who runs the Sportsbooks in Vegas?....

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    sscott999
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2013 - 12:42 PM ET #1

    Basically what I ma asking is this:  Are there just a handful of companies that run all the books, or are most of the books fairly independent operations?

    Take the Belagio for instance.  Is their book run by the Belagio or does the Belagio rent the space out to another company who also runs books at other casinos around town?  (I know that many of the casinos are all owned by the same company, that is not what I am asking.  I am talking about separate casino operations.)

    The last time I was in Vegas it seemed that the sportsbooks were all separate operations from the rest of the casino, which made me think they were just renting the space and there may actually be only be 2-3 companies that run all of the books in town.


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Basically what I ma asking is this:  Are there just a handful of companies that run all the books, or are most of the books fairly independent operations?

    Take the Belagio for instance.  Is their book run by the Belagio or does the Belagio rent the space out to another company who also runs books at other casinos around town?  (I know that many of the casinos are all owned by the same company, that is not what I am asking.  I am talking about separate casino operations.)

    The last time I was in Vegas it seemed that the sportsbooks were all separate operations from the rest of the casino, which made me think they were just renting the space and there may actually be only be 2-3 companies that run all of the books in town.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2013 - 12:59 PM ET #2

    It depends on which casino you were in.  All of the CET (Caesars entertainment) property books are run under one CET umbrella and you'll get the same lines at all of them, owned and run by CET.  Same with the MGM properties (which Bellagio is a part of). 

    William Hill runs the sportsbooks listed at this link: https://www.williamhill.us/find-a-book

    Cantor runs sportsbooks at these places:  https://www.cantorgaming.com/cantor-race-sports-books/

    LVH runs their own.  Same with the Nugget.

    Those are the biggest ones.  Anybody else please help if I missed ones.
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    It depends on which casino you were in.  All of the CET (Caesars entertainment) property books are run under one CET umbrella and you'll get the same lines at all of them, owned and run by CET.  Same with the MGM properties (which Bellagio is a part of). 

    William Hill runs the sportsbooks listed at this link: https://www.williamhill.us/find-a-book

    Cantor runs sportsbooks at these places:  https://www.cantorgaming.com/cantor-race-sports-books/

    LVH runs their own.  Same with the Nugget.

    Those are the biggest ones.  Anybody else please help if I missed ones.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2013 - 3:38 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by heinz2141:

    It depends on which casino you were in.  All of the CET (Caesars entertainment) property books are run under one CET umbrella and you'll get the same lines at all of them, owned and run by CET.  Same with the MGM properties (which Bellagio is a part of). 

    William Hill runs the sportsbooks listed at this link: https://www.williamhill.us/find-a-book

    Cantor runs sportsbooks at these places:  https://www.cantorgaming.com/cantor-race-sports-books/

    LVH runs their own.  Same with the Nugget.

    Those are the biggest ones.  Anybody else please help if I missed ones.

     Thanks for the info.  My first trip out I went to the Stratosphere.  I picked it because I got a great deal on a room and I knew it was across the street from LVH.  I knew absolutely NOTHING about Vegas back then.  I remember walking outside and saying, "WTF are all the other casinos?"  My next trip was to the Bellagio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heinz2141:

    It depends on which casino you were in.  All of the CET (Caesars entertainment) property books are run under one CET umbrella and you'll get the same lines at all of them, owned and run by CET.  Same with the MGM properties (which Bellagio is a part of). 

    William Hill runs the sportsbooks listed at this link: https://www.williamhill.us/find-a-book

    Cantor runs sportsbooks at these places:  https://www.cantorgaming.com/cantor-race-sports-books/

    LVH runs their own.  Same with the Nugget.

    Those are the biggest ones.  Anybody else please help if I missed ones.

     Thanks for the info.  My first trip out I went to the Stratosphere.  I picked it because I got a great deal on a room and I knew it was across the street from LVH.  I knew absolutely NOTHING about Vegas back then.  I remember walking outside and saying, "WTF are all the other casinos?"  My next trip was to the Bellagio.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2013 - 6:39 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by sscott999:


     Thanks for the info.  My first trip out I went to the Stratosphere.  I picked it because I got a great deal on a room and I knew it was across the street from LVH.  I knew absolutely NOTHING about Vegas back then.  I remember walking outside and saying, "WTF are all the other casinos?"  My next trip was to the Bellagio.
    lol, the Stratosphere will tell you anything to stay there.  Pretty cheap, but you are in the middle of a slim. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sscott999:


     Thanks for the info.  My first trip out I went to the Stratosphere.  I picked it because I got a great deal on a room and I knew it was across the street from LVH.  I knew absolutely NOTHING about Vegas back then.  I remember walking outside and saying, "WTF are all the other casinos?"  My next trip was to the Bellagio.
    lol, the Stratosphere will tell you anything to stay there.  Pretty cheap, but you are in the middle of a slim. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2013 - 8:38 PM ET #5

    There is also the Stations casinos-Red Rock and Green Valley and Palace station with others in Henderson.

    And Boyd with the Orleans and Gold Coast and a couple downtown.MSS for one..

    If you stay in the triangle of the Rio,Gold Coast,Palms (W.Flamingo/Valley View rds) easy checking 3 different lines..Never hurts to shop around if you have the time and a friend in another book same time.

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    There is also the Stations casinos-Red Rock and Green Valley and Palace station with others in Henderson.

    And Boyd with the Orleans and Gold Coast and a couple downtown.MSS for one..

    If you stay in the triangle of the Rio,Gold Coast,Palms (W.Flamingo/Valley View rds) easy checking 3 different lines..Never hurts to shop around if you have the time and a friend in another book same time.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2013 - 9:14 PM ET #6

    It's really interesting what's happened over the last five to 10 years.  More and more of the sportsbook operations are being farmed out.  Fewer and fewer independent operators like LVH.  Wouldn't be a big surprise if 5 or so years from now, even the big boys like Caesars find it just doesn't make sense to run their own books anymore. And what innovation there is these days seems to come from operators like Cantor...  
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    It's really interesting what's happened over the last five to 10 years.  More and more of the sportsbook operations are being farmed out.  Fewer and fewer independent operators like LVH.  Wouldn't be a big surprise if 5 or so years from now, even the big boys like Caesars find it just doesn't make sense to run their own books anymore. And what innovation there is these days seems to come from operators like Cantor...  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2013 - 9:22 AM ET #7

    Glad to hear you survived the Stratosphere experience as that is not a walkable location at night any longer due to crime and safety issues.

    Great point regarding the GC, Rio, Palms triangle.  If you don't like the CET properties stay at the CG and enjoy the amenities plus my wife plays the slots and can actually win there unlike CET.  Usually spend my Sundays at the Palms as Cantor has not ruined that book yet.  They took over the M and the service there is terrible but, the ticket writers and mgt at the Palms seem to actually like their jobs...can't get a drink in either place though.

    The old Barbary Coast used to be great for high parlay odds and to shop the line...those days are gone so I tend to pick a spot, spend the day and make my wagers offshore. 

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    Glad to hear you survived the Stratosphere experience as that is not a walkable location at night any longer due to crime and safety issues.

    Great point regarding the GC, Rio, Palms triangle.  If you don't like the CET properties stay at the CG and enjoy the amenities plus my wife plays the slots and can actually win there unlike CET.  Usually spend my Sundays at the Palms as Cantor has not ruined that book yet.  They took over the M and the service there is terrible but, the ticket writers and mgt at the Palms seem to actually like their jobs...can't get a drink in either place though.

    The old Barbary Coast used to be great for high parlay odds and to shop the line...those days are gone so I tend to pick a spot, spend the day and make my wagers offshore. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2013 - 6:53 PM ET #8

    MGM runs all of their properties books: Bellage, Aria, MGM, Mirage, Mandalay, Luxor, NYNY
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    MGM runs all of their properties books: Bellage, Aria, MGM, Mirage, Mandalay, Luxor, NYNY
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2013 - 1:51 PM ET #9

    List of Vegas sports books...

    https://www.vegas.com/gaming/sportsbooks/

    I did notice the absence of William Hill whose Iphone application is excellent...

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    List of Vegas sports books...

    https://www.vegas.com/gaming/sportsbooks/

    I did notice the absence of William Hill whose Iphone application is excellent...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2017 - 10:17 AM ET #10

    CG Tech runs books at Palms, Cosmo, and the M, among others,
    taking all bet sizes w/o a fuss & so most all of Money May's plays.

    It was at the M Resort, Money May bet $815,000 on Denver
    to beat Jets by at least 7 ½ points. Like all of the pro-Denver
    bettors that day, he got extremely lucky.

    With seconds left in the game, the Jets had the ball, down 7:
    Money needed the Broncos to stop the Jets, get the ball back,
    and score, (all w/i a few seconds), to avoid losing his $815,000.
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    CG Tech runs books at Palms, Cosmo, and the M, among others,
    taking all bet sizes w/o a fuss & so most all of Money May's plays.

    It was at the M Resort, Money May bet $815,000 on Denver
    to beat Jets by at least 7 ½ points. Like all of the pro-Denver
    bettors that day, he got extremely lucky.

    With seconds left in the game, the Jets had the ball, down 7:
    Money needed the Broncos to stop the Jets, get the ball back,
    and score, (all w/i a few seconds), to avoid losing his $815,000.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2017 - 5:46 AM ET #11

    Good read..
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    Good read..
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