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    Is there anyone in here that's always playing roulette in a casino?

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    leumas
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2008 - 6:49 PM ET #1

    Brick and mortar NOt online. Reason for asking is b/c I would like to get some real on site spins data.

    OR

    Any website where someone has compiled X amount of spins from a brick and mortar casino(s).

    ONLY useful replies please!

    NO lectures on how it's impossible to make money with roulette, etc. etc.  I know about house advantage with table games and that sports wagering is my best shot at making any real money, etc. etc.  I just want to take a serious look at something.

    Thanks in advance!


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Brick and mortar NOt online. Reason for asking is b/c I would like to get some real on site spins data.

    OR

    Any website where someone has compiled X amount of spins from a brick and mortar casino(s).

    ONLY useful replies please!

    NO lectures on how it's impossible to make money with roulette, etc. etc.  I know about house advantage with table games and that sports wagering is my best shot at making any real money, etc. etc.  I just want to take a serious look at something.

    Thanks in advance!


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2008 - 1:08 PM ET #2

    I picked up a book @Gamblers Bookstore in LasVegas that was 10,000 spins of an American wheel but was revealed that numbers were computer random selected-not actual spins. I found it lacking.

    leumas- I'll tell you something that you asked not to hear.As someone
    who has been chasing the Golden Fleece for more then35 years, unless you can find a biased wheel or an agreeable dealer it ain't going
    to happen at roulette/ 5.25 vig.
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    I picked up a book @Gamblers Bookstore in LasVegas that was 10,000 spins of an American wheel but was revealed that numbers were computer random selected-not actual spins. I found it lacking.

    leumas- I'll tell you something that you asked not to hear.As someone
    who has been chasing the Golden Fleece for more then35 years, unless you can find a biased wheel or an agreeable dealer it ain't going
    to happen at roulette/ 5.25 vig.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2008 - 8:53 PM ET #3

    here is what you need to know about roullette
     
    EACH SPIN IS A RANDOM EVENT. PAST SPINS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEXT SPIN. PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE BLACK CAME UP 10 TIMES IN A ROW THE WHEEL IS DUE TO COME UP RED ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS.
     
    Do you think the white ball and wheel have a memory?
     
    that would be like flipping a coin and thinking that because it came up heads 10 timees in a row that tails is "due"
     
    the odds of it being a tail on the next flip is exactly the same as it will ever be 50%
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    here is what you need to know about roullette
     
    EACH SPIN IS A RANDOM EVENT. PAST SPINS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEXT SPIN. PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE BLACK CAME UP 10 TIMES IN A ROW THE WHEEL IS DUE TO COME UP RED ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS.
     
    Do you think the white ball and wheel have a memory?
     
    that would be like flipping a coin and thinking that because it came up heads 10 timees in a row that tails is "due"
     
    the odds of it being a tail on the next flip is exactly the same as it will ever be 50%
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2008 - 11:43 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    here is what you need to know about roullette
     
    EACH SPIN IS A RANDOM EVENT. PAST SPINS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEXT SPIN. PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE BLACK CAME UP 10 TIMES IN A ROW THE WHEEL IS DUE TO COME UP RED ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS.
     
    Do you think the white ball and wheel have a memory?
     
    that would be like flipping a coin and thinking that because it came up heads 10 timees in a row that tails is "due"
     
    the odds of it being a tail on the next flip is exactly the same as it will ever be 50%

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    here is what you need to know about roullette
     
    EACH SPIN IS A RANDOM EVENT. PAST SPINS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEXT SPIN. PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE BLACK CAME UP 10 TIMES IN A ROW THE WHEEL IS DUE TO COME UP RED ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS.
     
    Do you think the white ball and wheel have a memory?
     
    that would be like flipping a coin and thinking that because it came up heads 10 timees in a row that tails is "due"
     
    the odds of it being a tail on the next flip is exactly the same as it will ever be 50%

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2008 - 3:46 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    here is what you need to know about roullette
     
    EACH SPIN IS A RANDOM EVENT. PAST SPINS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEXT SPIN. PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE BLACK CAME UP 10 TIMES IN A ROW THE WHEEL IS DUE TO COME UP RED ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS.
     
    Do you think the white ball and wheel have a memory?
     
    that would be like flipping a coin and thinking that because it came up heads 10 timees in a row that tails is "due"
     
    the odds of it being a tail on the next flip is exactly the same as it will ever be 50%

    Exactly, the number board is the biggest fraud! Similar to the theory of flipping a coin . .

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:

    here is what you need to know about roullette
     
    EACH SPIN IS A RANDOM EVENT. PAST SPINS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEXT SPIN. PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE BLACK CAME UP 10 TIMES IN A ROW THE WHEEL IS DUE TO COME UP RED ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS.
     
    Do you think the white ball and wheel have a memory?
     
    that would be like flipping a coin and thinking that because it came up heads 10 timees in a row that tails is "due"
     
    the odds of it being a tail on the next flip is exactly the same as it will ever be 50%

    Exactly, the number board is the biggest fraud! Similar to the theory of flipping a coin . .

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 28, 2008 - 9:32 PM ET #6

    Complete and total luck. Do a search on Wikipedia for Roulette. Some good reading on there.
     
    Although I must say I love to play roulette.
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    Complete and total luck. Do a search on Wikipedia for Roulette. Some good reading on there.
     
    Although I must say I love to play roulette.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2008 - 12:07 AM ET #7

    On one of those Vegas shows on the Travel channel , thwy said putting that board of past results at the roulette tables was one of the best things they ever did for the house.
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    On one of those Vegas shows on the Travel channel , thwy said putting that board of past results at the roulette tables was one of the best things they ever did for the house.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2008 - 12:08 AM ET #8

    RickeM...roulette is fun but no real system
     
    although i like to cover 1 "section" of the wheel  when i play  5#s..tats my only "system"
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    RickeM...roulette is fun but no real system
     
    although i like to cover 1 "section" of the wheel  when i play  5#s..tats my only "system"
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 12:32 AM ET #9

    I'm 19 and went to AC after I just got paid at work that night like 300 bucks.  Me and my friends went down to see the dark knight on imax but it was sold out so i tried to play roulette and they never said a word to me (granted i'm 6'5" 225 lbs)  but I lost everything except for 60 bucks, I was so pissed.

    I put my last 60 on red and turned my back to the wheel and looked back and I won.  I went on a tear and had a pile of 5 dollar chips too big to count so I told the dealer to give me some smaller chips.

    She then gave me six black 100 dollar chips and I walked the fuck away and that concluded my first gambling trip.
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    I'm 19 and went to AC after I just got paid at work that night like 300 bucks.  Me and my friends went down to see the dark knight on imax but it was sold out so i tried to play roulette and they never said a word to me (granted i'm 6'5" 225 lbs)  but I lost everything except for 60 bucks, I was so pissed.

    I put my last 60 on red and turned my back to the wheel and looked back and I won.  I went on a tear and had a pile of 5 dollar chips too big to count so I told the dealer to give me some smaller chips.

    She then gave me six black 100 dollar chips and I walked the fuck away and that concluded my first gambling trip.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 3:42 PM ET #10

    'Martingale' is all you need to know my friend. If you have a big enough bankroll and the table limits are high enough, you will always win playing the black/red on roulette.
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    'Martingale' is all you need to know my friend. If you have a big enough bankroll and the table limits are high enough, you will always win playing the black/red on roulette.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 3:49 PM ET #11

    Martingale is the quickest way to bust out.  I have personally seen red or black, odd or even come up more than 10 times in a row.  It is extremely risky and in the long run it only takes once to bury you.  In regards to randomness, the numbers are random but the wheel isn't.  Someone referenced a book and I believe I read it, and it was about biased wheels.  A wheel can become biased after spinning thousands of times and miniscule grooves develop.  You would have to "clock" the wheel for hours and make sure the wheel doesn't come out of service or get switched to another table without your knowledge.  Even then, it's tough.
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    Martingale is the quickest way to bust out.  I have personally seen red or black, odd or even come up more than 10 times in a row.  It is extremely risky and in the long run it only takes once to bury you.  In regards to randomness, the numbers are random but the wheel isn't.  Someone referenced a book and I believe I read it, and it was about biased wheels.  A wheel can become biased after spinning thousands of times and miniscule grooves develop.  You would have to "clock" the wheel for hours and make sure the wheel doesn't come out of service or get switched to another table without your knowledge.  Even then, it's tough.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 10:21 AM ET #12

    Martingale works I tell ya, pending the table limits are high enough. There is no way it can't work. Eventually a red or black has to come up. So if you roll is large enough and the limits are high enough you will win. European roulette only has one green zero, so your odds are even better on that.
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    Martingale works I tell ya, pending the table limits are high enough. There is no way it can't work. Eventually a red or black has to come up. So if you roll is large enough and the limits are high enough you will win. European roulette only has one green zero, so your odds are even better on that.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 2:10 PM ET #13

    I know I'll catch crap for posting this, but if you find a dealer with a consistent throw (of the ball) and a consistent spin (of the wheel), you can sometimes try to guess in what area the ball will land in relation to the last spin.  Of course they're taught to mix it up (the speed of their throw and spin).  I've seen dealers pull the ball after consecutive big winning streaks.  I know they do that on purpose, kind a makes you wonder, huh?
     
    Just for the record, since I moved to Vegas I don't play table games anymore, unless I have friends in town.  When I used to come here to visit on vacation with vacation money, yes, I played them all.
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    I know I'll catch crap for posting this, but if you find a dealer with a consistent throw (of the ball) and a consistent spin (of the wheel), you can sometimes try to guess in what area the ball will land in relation to the last spin.  Of course they're taught to mix it up (the speed of their throw and spin).  I've seen dealers pull the ball after consecutive big winning streaks.  I know they do that on purpose, kind a makes you wonder, huh?
     
    Just for the record, since I moved to Vegas I don't play table games anymore, unless I have friends in town.  When I used to come here to visit on vacation with vacation money, yes, I played them all.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 2:13 PM ET #14

    Hey MWC do roll the bones? Check out my post, I think it is the last one, in the Dice Setting thread. Believe it or not, it's been a pretty decent system if you can try it out.
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    Hey MWC do roll the bones? Check out my post, I think it is the last one, in the Dice Setting thread. Believe it or not, it's been a pretty decent system if you can try it out.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 9:00 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by gfinger:

    Hey MWC do roll the bones? Check out my post, I think it is the last one, in the Dice Setting thread. Believe it or not, it's been a pretty decent system if you can try it out.

    I commented on dice setting in the other thread.  Again, I used to throw dice while on vacation, I don't anymore.  It's kinda easy to figure out why.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfinger:

    Hey MWC do roll the bones? Check out my post, I think it is the last one, in the Dice Setting thread. Believe it or not, it's been a pretty decent system if you can try it out.

    I commented on dice setting in the other thread.  Again, I used to throw dice while on vacation, I don't anymore.  It's kinda easy to figure out why.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieScene:

    I'm 19 and went to AC after I just got paid at work that night like 300 bucks.  Me and my friends went down to see the dark knight on imax but it was sold out so i tried to play roulette and they never said a word to me (granted i'm 6'5" 225 lbs)  but I lost everything except for 60 bucks, I was so pissed.

    I put my last 60 on red and turned my back to the wheel and looked back and I won.  I went on a tear and had a pile of 5 dollar chips too big to count so I told the dealer to give me some smaller chips.

    She then gave me six black 100 dollar chips and I walked the fuck away and that concluded my first gambling trip.


    <<<<<<<<<<< you stole my pic, but that's ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieScene:

    I'm 19 and went to AC after I just got paid at work that night like 300 bucks.  Me and my friends went down to see the dark knight on imax but it was sold out so i tried to play roulette and they never said a word to me (granted i'm 6'5" 225 lbs)  but I lost everything except for 60 bucks, I was so pissed.

    I put my last 60 on red and turned my back to the wheel and looked back and I won.  I went on a tear and had a pile of 5 dollar chips too big to count so I told the dealer to give me some smaller chips.

    She then gave me six black 100 dollar chips and I walked the fuck away and that concluded my first gambling trip.


    <<<<<<<<<<< you stole my pic, but that's ok.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 12:09 AM ET #17

    all you can do is increase your % when covering the board, and dont be greedy , then hope math works out for you.   for example, if you put  2 units on "1st 12" which pays 2 - 1, and 3 units on "18-36"which pays even money, you will always win 1 unit if one of your 30 / 37 #'s come in.  you have 81 % of the board covered (european roullette, where only 1x "0"). 

    if by chance , the 19% hits,  you are down 5 units.   nothing is for sure in roullette !!!  in the end, it will bite you in the ass!!!!
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    all you can do is increase your % when covering the board, and dont be greedy , then hope math works out for you.   for example, if you put  2 units on "1st 12" which pays 2 - 1, and 3 units on "18-36"which pays even money, you will always win 1 unit if one of your 30 / 37 #'s come in.  you have 81 % of the board covered (european roullette, where only 1x "0"). 

    if by chance , the 19% hits,  you are down 5 units.   nothing is for sure in roullette !!!  in the end, it will bite you in the ass!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2008 - 6:11 PM ET #18

    jeffz

    i just got back from vegas and used your 1st 12 and 18-36

    i was playing 100 to win 20 each time

    i was up 200 but then lost 100 when 13 hit

    thanks for the tip

    it does work

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    jeffz

    i just got back from vegas and used your 1st 12 and 18-36

    i was playing 100 to win 20 each time

    i was up 200 but then lost 100 when 13 hit

    thanks for the tip

    it does work

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2008 - 1:49 AM ET #19

    Uh ohhhh.

    I feel a Vanzack appearance!!


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    Uh ohhhh.

    I feel a Vanzack appearance!!


     
    Iw1nBets
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2008 - 4:11 PM ET #20

    roulette
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    roulette
     
    Iw1nBets
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2008 - 4:12 PM ET #21

    blackjack
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    blackjack
     
    carnzey
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2008 - 1:12 AM ET #22

    what i have came up with is the # before 0-00 hits  for an example 6 hits next 0 or 00 hits play low  next spin pays 2-1  if it looses double up till it hits low 1-12 never lost more than 5 spins  play this way for an hour half or you win three times with this system ,you have to quit or come back 1 1/2 hour later start over. last time i went it took 49 spins before 0-00 hit  next spin it won i quit  i won 200$ it does not work on internet gaming for some reason for me. if any one uses this let us know how it turn out i had succes . i have asked my friends to use this method they dont have the patience for it .
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    what i have came up with is the # before 0-00 hits  for an example 6 hits next 0 or 00 hits play low  next spin pays 2-1  if it looses double up till it hits low 1-12 never lost more than 5 spins  play this way for an hour half or you win three times with this system ,you have to quit or come back 1 1/2 hour later start over. last time i went it took 49 spins before 0-00 hit  next spin it won i quit  i won 200$ it does not work on internet gaming for some reason for me. if any one uses this let us know how it turn out i had succes . i have asked my friends to use this method they dont have the patience for it .
     
    Superghost
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 6:35 PM ET #23

    1st and 2nd 12 ...anything over 12 you win...i've hit on this 15 times in a row in 1 sitting...works well but always a chance of losing !!!
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    1st and 2nd 12 ...anything over 12 you win...i've hit on this 15 times in a row in 1 sitting...works well but always a chance of losing !!!
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 8:38 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Superghost:

    1st and 2nd 12 ...anything over 12 you win...i've hit on this 15 times in a row in 1 sitting...works well but always a chance of losing !!!

    Great advice, Im going to try it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superghost:

    1st and 2nd 12 ...anything over 12 you win...i've hit on this 15 times in a row in 1 sitting...works well but always a chance of losing !!!

    Great advice, Im going to try it!

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