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    getting a host?

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    Dmitrys
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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2009 - 8:52 PM ET #1

    So i've been going to vegas once a year for last 4 years, usually play a little poker, bet on sports, and bj. Bets vary between $100-$1000 ...bankroll around 5k... is it worth getting a host? 

    i noticed that some posers said that some casinos comp for sports bets, how about MGM grand? i'll be staying there, should i call and ask? always wondered if its really worth getting your play graded but sometimes i am just to lazy and don't think i'll play that long...

    lmk.. thanks in advance guys
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    So i've been going to vegas once a year for last 4 years, usually play a little poker, bet on sports, and bj. Bets vary between $100-$1000 ...bankroll around 5k... is it worth getting a host? 

    i noticed that some posers said that some casinos comp for sports bets, how about MGM grand? i'll be staying there, should i call and ask? always wondered if its really worth getting your play graded but sometimes i am just to lazy and don't think i'll play that long...

    lmk.. thanks in advance guys
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 6:33 PM ET #2

    with that kind of money, no.  No host will pay attention to u.  What r u looking for a host for anyway.  I know a few good independent host that have contacts everywhere.  Hilton is by far the best sportsbook to get comps.  The pallazo sports bar is bar far the best place to watch a game.
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    with that kind of money, no.  No host will pay attention to u.  What r u looking for a host for anyway.  I know a few good independent host that have contacts everywhere.  Hilton is by far the best sportsbook to get comps.  The pallazo sports bar is bar far the best place to watch a game.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 9:38 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitrys:

    So i've been going to vegas once a year for last 4 years, usually play a little poker, bet on sports, and bj. Bets vary between $100-$1000 ...bankroll around 5k... is it worth getting a host? 

    i noticed that some posers said that some casinos comp for sports bets, how about MGM grand? i'll be staying there, should i call and ask? always wondered if its really worth getting your play graded but sometimes i am just to lazy and don't think i'll play that long...

    lmk.. thanks in advance guys

    If you play mainly at the MGM Mirage properties then just get the players club card and give it to the dealers whenever you play.  A host will contact you if your play is graded high enough.  I play mainly at NYNY and have a host through them (one of the MGM properties).  I like having a host, its nice if you have any problems while you are there.  I have had a couple dealers that were just total dicks before and I asked the pit boss to change the dealers out for me and told her my hosts name.  It was done within minutes.  Plus the hosts will set up everything for your trip and all you have to do is send them a quick e-mail with a couple details and its done.  Also having a host doesn't cost you anything so I don't know why you wouldn't want one.... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitrys:

    So i've been going to vegas once a year for last 4 years, usually play a little poker, bet on sports, and bj. Bets vary between $100-$1000 ...bankroll around 5k... is it worth getting a host? 

    i noticed that some posers said that some casinos comp for sports bets, how about MGM grand? i'll be staying there, should i call and ask? always wondered if its really worth getting your play graded but sometimes i am just to lazy and don't think i'll play that long...

    lmk.. thanks in advance guys

    If you play mainly at the MGM Mirage properties then just get the players club card and give it to the dealers whenever you play.  A host will contact you if your play is graded high enough.  I play mainly at NYNY and have a host through them (one of the MGM properties).  I like having a host, its nice if you have any problems while you are there.  I have had a couple dealers that were just total dicks before and I asked the pit boss to change the dealers out for me and told her my hosts name.  It was done within minutes.  Plus the hosts will set up everything for your trip and all you have to do is send them a quick e-mail with a couple details and its done.  Also having a host doesn't cost you anything so I don't know why you wouldn't want one.... 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 9:49 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by vegascaveman:

    with that kind of money, no.  No host will pay attention to u.  What r u looking for a host for anyway.  I know a few good independent host that have contacts everywhere.  Hilton is by far the best sportsbook to get comps.  The pallazo sports bar is bar far the best place to watch a game.

    I would have to disagree with you caveman...

    Dmitrys,

    Are you playing 100 to 1000 per hand on BJ?  Or normally closer to 100 per hand on BJ?  I average about 200 per hand playing craps, bj and roulette and have a host, have a standing offer for comped players suite, 500 in promo chips, and get the offers for any/all events at the MGM properties.

    Its all about your average bet and amount of time spent at the tables.  So if you bet 100 per hand and spend 7 hours a day at the table each day during your trip, you can expect to get some nice comps.  If you play 1000 a hand for 30 minutes get up and leave the table then don't expect anything.  I have heard that the minimum is 4.5 hours a day to get rated.  I can't speak about how your bets at sportsbooks count towards your comps, i would imagine not much, i would also imagine its not a lot for poker play either. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegascaveman:

    with that kind of money, no.  No host will pay attention to u.  What r u looking for a host for anyway.  I know a few good independent host that have contacts everywhere.  Hilton is by far the best sportsbook to get comps.  The pallazo sports bar is bar far the best place to watch a game.

    I would have to disagree with you caveman...

    Dmitrys,

    Are you playing 100 to 1000 per hand on BJ?  Or normally closer to 100 per hand on BJ?  I average about 200 per hand playing craps, bj and roulette and have a host, have a standing offer for comped players suite, 500 in promo chips, and get the offers for any/all events at the MGM properties.

    Its all about your average bet and amount of time spent at the tables.  So if you bet 100 per hand and spend 7 hours a day at the table each day during your trip, you can expect to get some nice comps.  If you play 1000 a hand for 30 minutes get up and leave the table then don't expect anything.  I have heard that the minimum is 4.5 hours a day to get rated.  I can't speak about how your bets at sportsbooks count towards your comps, i would imagine not much, i would also imagine its not a lot for poker play either. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2009 - 5:22 AM ET #5

    $5,000 dollar bankrollis nothing Dimitrys.  I have lived here 12 yrs & know many host.  I have a lot of clients that always bitch for loosing 10,000 over a 10 hr play period & getting nothing except a dinner.  Regardless there are alot of bargains in vegas right now on rooms.  I could give u some good info that I am not going to make public on what to do.  Send me a message if interested.
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    $5,000 dollar bankrollis nothing Dimitrys.  I have lived here 12 yrs & know many host.  I have a lot of clients that always bitch for loosing 10,000 over a 10 hr play period & getting nothing except a dinner.  Regardless there are alot of bargains in vegas right now on rooms.  I could give u some good info that I am not going to make public on what to do.  Send me a message if interested.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2009 - 2:52 PM ET #6

    The host doesn't know your bankroll, only your play.  If you are betting $100+/hand BJ then yes absolutely get a host and have your play rated.  If you play that for 3-4+ hours per day then you will be comped room and food almost guaranteed, plus ask for shows.  Of course at $100+/hand, it possible to drop 5 dimes pretty quickly.
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    The host doesn't know your bankroll, only your play.  If you are betting $100+/hand BJ then yes absolutely get a host and have your play rated.  If you play that for 3-4+ hours per day then you will be comped room and food almost guaranteed, plus ask for shows.  Of course at $100+/hand, it possible to drop 5 dimes pretty quickly.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2009 - 5:19 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    The host doesn't know your bankroll, only your play.  If you are betting $100+/hand BJ then yes absolutely get a host and have your play rated.  If you play that for 3-4+ hours per day then you will be comped room and food almost guaranteed, plus ask for shows.  Of course at $100+/hand, it possible to drop 5 dimes pretty quickly.

    Exactly Depeche...  I have gone to vegas with 1500 dollars starting bank roll and played for 13 hours (for the trip) at average of $200 dollars a hand.  I got up big at some point and started playing bigger and bigger and thats the reason I had such a high average.

    I have also gone with a 3000 dollar starting bankroll and only got in 5 hours (for the trip) at an average of $50 per hand.  A lot of it depends on how well you do and if you keep playing....  

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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    The host doesn't know your bankroll, only your play.  If you are betting $100+/hand BJ then yes absolutely get a host and have your play rated.  If you play that for 3-4+ hours per day then you will be comped room and food almost guaranteed, plus ask for shows.  Of course at $100+/hand, it possible to drop 5 dimes pretty quickly.

    Exactly Depeche...  I have gone to vegas with 1500 dollars starting bank roll and played for 13 hours (for the trip) at average of $200 dollars a hand.  I got up big at some point and started playing bigger and bigger and thats the reason I had such a high average.

    I have also gone with a 3000 dollar starting bankroll and only got in 5 hours (for the trip) at an average of $50 per hand.  A lot of it depends on how well you do and if you keep playing....  

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2009 - 12:49 AM ET #8

    Dmitry- you should definitely get a rating card.  You should get 2 or 3 nights comped, late checkouts, mini bar and room charges comped and maybe a 100 comp for dinner at those stakes.  Get a host or ask for the HOD(host on duty) and they should take care of you.  If they dont switch hotels as some are better than others with comps.  In my experience the Palms is the best.
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    Dmitry- you should definitely get a rating card.  You should get 2 or 3 nights comped, late checkouts, mini bar and room charges comped and maybe a 100 comp for dinner at those stakes.  Get a host or ask for the HOD(host on duty) and they should take care of you.  If they dont switch hotels as some are better than others with comps.  In my experience the Palms is the best.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

    Dmitry- you should definitely get a rating card.  You should get 2 or 3 nights comped, late checkouts, mini bar and room charges comped and maybe a 100 comp for dinner at those stakes.  Get a host or ask for the HOD(host on duty) and they should take care of you.  If they dont switch hotels as some are better than others with comps.  In my experience the Palms is the best.

    How big of a player are you?  I've been thinking about switching hotels just to switch it up and was looking at Hard Rock and Palms.  What do you like about the Palms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

    Dmitry- you should definitely get a rating card.  You should get 2 or 3 nights comped, late checkouts, mini bar and room charges comped and maybe a 100 comp for dinner at those stakes.  Get a host or ask for the HOD(host on duty) and they should take care of you.  If they dont switch hotels as some are better than others with comps.  In my experience the Palms is the best.

    How big of a player are you?  I've been thinking about switching hotels just to switch it up and was looking at Hard Rock and Palms.  What do you like about the Palms?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2009 - 9:06 PM ET #10

    hey guys, its Dmitrys, i just forgot my login info hehe.
     
    thanks for the replys, they do help.
    I have few questions.. is there a difference in just getting a players card and getting a host? i mean can i just use a card and then have a host evaluate my play or better off getting a host first ?
     
    I am not that big of a player, i guess sometimes i am more of a ... "ill place a $1k" bet on a hand and then make like $100 bets ....and play for like 30 minutes... rather then playing for more then 5 hours on a table..
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    hey guys, its Dmitrys, i just forgot my login info hehe.
     
    thanks for the replys, they do help.
    I have few questions.. is there a difference in just getting a players card and getting a host? i mean can i just use a card and then have a host evaluate my play or better off getting a host first ?
     
    I am not that big of a player, i guess sometimes i am more of a ... "ill place a $1k" bet on a hand and then make like $100 bets ....and play for like 30 minutes... rather then playing for more then 5 hours on a table..
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2009 - 9:58 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by jhonea999:

    How big of a player are you?  I've been thinking about switching hotels just to switch it up and was looking at Hard Rock and Palms.  What do you like about the Palms?

    When i play dice its usually 130-135 across with 25 passing and full odds.  BJ  3 hands of 100 each.  You get more bang for your buck at the palms than anywhere.  I get a ridiculous room in the playboy tower comped.  I usually ask for a $100 for the N9NE.  My favorite part is the clubs.  I'll tell a pitboss I need a comp for 4 to Moon and it's done in 5 minutes and you dont have to wait in line with a 100 assholes.  I did have a trip there about 2 years ago where i won 36K so that might be jacking up my comps but they were taking care of me before that.  Ask for Danielle.

    Dimitry-yeah just get a players card and when you're checking out just ask if they're going to pick up anything.  If you have a decent avg bet a host will give you their card and say call me if you need anything or you will recieve offers in the mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhonea999:

    How big of a player are you?  I've been thinking about switching hotels just to switch it up and was looking at Hard Rock and Palms.  What do you like about the Palms?

    When i play dice its usually 130-135 across with 25 passing and full odds.  BJ  3 hands of 100 each.  You get more bang for your buck at the palms than anywhere.  I get a ridiculous room in the playboy tower comped.  I usually ask for a $100 for the N9NE.  My favorite part is the clubs.  I'll tell a pitboss I need a comp for 4 to Moon and it's done in 5 minutes and you dont have to wait in line with a 100 assholes.  I did have a trip there about 2 years ago where i won 36K so that might be jacking up my comps but they were taking care of me before that.  Ask for Danielle.

    Dimitry-yeah just get a players card and when you're checking out just ask if they're going to pick up anything.  If you have a decent avg bet a host will give you their card and say call me if you need anything or you will recieve offers in the mail.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2009 - 10:10 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

    When i play dice its usually 130-135 across with 25 passing and full odds.  BJ  3 hands of 100 each.  You get more bang for your buck at the palms than anywhere.  I get a ridiculous room in the playboy tower comped.  I usually ask for a $100 for the N9NE.  My favorite part is the clubs.  I'll tell a pitboss I need a comp for 4 to Moon and it's done in 5 minutes and you dont have to wait in line with a 100 assholes.  I did have a trip there about 2 years ago where i won 36K so that might be jacking up my comps but they were taking care of me before that.  Ask for Danielle.

    Dimitry-yeah just get a players card and when you're checking out just ask if they're going to pick up anything.  If you have a decent avg bet a host will give you their card and say call me if you need anything or you will recieve offers in the mail.

     

    Thanks Maxx, I may have to look into that for my next trip.  I am going this weekend but already have everything set up at NYNY.

    Dimitry, I don't know if I would trust a host that is not part of a hotel.  Especially one that could be being recommended by an internet scammer.  I personally haven't heard of outside hosts and I guess they could exist and contract with hotels, but who knows.  Just be careful. 

    Vegascaveman, sorry if you aren't a scammer but you can't be too careful with shit like this. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

    When i play dice its usually 130-135 across with 25 passing and full odds.  BJ  3 hands of 100 each.  You get more bang for your buck at the palms than anywhere.  I get a ridiculous room in the playboy tower comped.  I usually ask for a $100 for the N9NE.  My favorite part is the clubs.  I'll tell a pitboss I need a comp for 4 to Moon and it's done in 5 minutes and you dont have to wait in line with a 100 assholes.  I did have a trip there about 2 years ago where i won 36K so that might be jacking up my comps but they were taking care of me before that.  Ask for Danielle.

    Dimitry-yeah just get a players card and when you're checking out just ask if they're going to pick up anything.  If you have a decent avg bet a host will give you their card and say call me if you need anything or you will recieve offers in the mail.

     

    Thanks Maxx, I may have to look into that for my next trip.  I am going this weekend but already have everything set up at NYNY.

    Dimitry, I don't know if I would trust a host that is not part of a hotel.  Especially one that could be being recommended by an internet scammer.  I personally haven't heard of outside hosts and I guess they could exist and contract with hotels, but who knows.  Just be careful. 

    Vegascaveman, sorry if you aren't a scammer but you can't be too careful with shit like this. 

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 7:57 AM ET #13

    dymytries,
     
    I have been playing in town for a while & this is what I can tell u about host for hotels:
     
    1st off they are cracking down on everbody with comps.  If u bet sports the best comp house by far is the hilton.  Tables really varies on where u play.  I can tell u this.  A client of mine has played at several places in town for several hrs @ 100 average& has gotten practically nothing.  This is all corporate out here & vegas has taken the worst dive in the country with the economy.  If u dont believe me just look at the stock prices.  I play alot at a few properties & they have gotten much cheaper on what they are givng back now.  Also most host for hotels want handshakes for anything.  Downtown las vegas, stratosphere, rivirera & a few other hotels like that will probably take care of u for that amount but the big resorts are cracking down.  Remember the house edge in the casino is the worst in blackjack.  Let me know if I can help while u r here.
     
    Good Luck
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    dymytries,
     
    I have been playing in town for a while & this is what I can tell u about host for hotels:
     
    1st off they are cracking down on everbody with comps.  If u bet sports the best comp house by far is the hilton.  Tables really varies on where u play.  I can tell u this.  A client of mine has played at several places in town for several hrs @ 100 average& has gotten practically nothing.  This is all corporate out here & vegas has taken the worst dive in the country with the economy.  If u dont believe me just look at the stock prices.  I play alot at a few properties & they have gotten much cheaper on what they are givng back now.  Also most host for hotels want handshakes for anything.  Downtown las vegas, stratosphere, rivirera & a few other hotels like that will probably take care of u for that amount but the big resorts are cracking down.  Remember the house edge in the casino is the worst in blackjack.  Let me know if I can help while u r here.
     
    Good Luck
     
     
    babkuzy123
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2009 - 10:58 AM ET #14

    ok i see, thanks, do you guys tip hosts? if so, what would be the right amount
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    ok i see, thanks, do you guys tip hosts? if so, what would be the right amount
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